Swamp Door Symbol
Mtn Biker
Thanks,
Tim
Chadd VanZanten
>Would anyone know what the red symbol on the swamp door is?
I can't picture it at the moment, so I'm going with my gut -- I think
it's a caduseus, the symbol for the medical branch of the army, and the
symbol for medical and doctor stuff in general. Two serpants twined
around a winged staff. Or maybe it's two winged serpants twined around
an ordinary staff. Anyway, it comes from Greek mythology, it was the
staff carried by Hermes, who was a healer. The serpants represent
fertility and power, IIRC. A similar symbol was also used by Moses as a
talisman against poison serpants sent by God to punish the Israelites
because they complained about having to take the long way through
Caanan. That's all the time we have today. Tomorrow, quiz on chapters 3
and 4.
Okay then,
Chadd
Mtn Biker
horse-shoe with horns on the ends. It also had a line running down the
middle.
Tim
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Cory
> Mtn Biker wrote:
>
> >Would anyone know what the red symbol on the swamp door is?
>
> I can't picture it at the moment, so I'm going with my gut
Same goes for me when I say this...
IIRC, it's a peace symbol, is it not??
> Okay then,
> Chadd
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David Brunt
Mtn Biker wrote in message ...
>I don't think its the medical symbol. As I remember it, its an upside
down
>horse-shoe with horns on the ends. It also had a line running down the
>middle.
That sounds like the Greek letter Psi.
David
Paul Atreides
@news.mindspring.com>:
Now, I don't know the history of the peace symbol, but didn't it
come around in the Hippie Days of the late 1960's?
Of course, I never even realized there was a symbol painted on
the door.
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Candela
>Same goes for me when I say this...
>IIRC, it's a peace symbol, is it not??
That's what I see. It's a bit faded on the lower half --
blending into the door. Not drawing attention to itself.
Paul:
>Now, I don't know the history of the peace symbol, but didn't
>it come around in the Hippie Days of the late 1960's? Of
>course, I never even realized there was a symbol painted on the
>door.
I hadn't given it a second thought 'til now. I had originally
believed the symbol to have been formulated earlier than the
date I found. Guess not.
"Peace Symbol: The familiar circle with lines was originally the
symbol for nuclear disarmament. Bertrand Russell is credited
with creating the symbol in 1958 from the semaphore flag signals
for letters N(uclear) and D(isarmament). It first appeared in
the anti-nuclear protest of the early sixties, and was used
extensively during the anti-war movement as a more generic peace
symbol."
http://hippy.com/glossary-n.htm#P
More detailed insight into symbol:
http://geneva.rutgers.edu/src/faq/peace-symbol.txt
Anyhow, this made me think of Chadd's post in Paul's "Rumble
Seat" thread:
>I always thought the Bell UH-1 was hanging there to say, "when
>we say Korea, we might really mean Vietnam." I thought it was
>an act of shrewd, understated subversion
And Elsig's reply:
>Sorry. I think we sneaked enough understated subversion in any
>number of other ways.
Is it safe to say this can be added to the subversive,
idiosyncratic tally? :)
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always thought it looked like some kind of bug.
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Candela
>Tim
I've read about this "what" topic before. If only I could
remember when and where. And who even knows why these whys of
whats get me with their whereabouts when they do.
The *red* symbol looks to be a circle, above a black shape
resembling an upside-down anchor. Sigh, yes -- Psi too. Sure,
it's weathered -- but quite a bit much, if ever it were a peace
symbol.
Tonight I had found a better view than that which was standing
out earlier in my MASH memory banks. Thanks to slow-mo. Seen in
pt.II of "Welcome to Korea," when Radar is hup-hupping a cadence
across the compound for Burns & himself -- en route to
Houlihan's tent.
>The design that was on the "Swamp's" door, I believe was a unit
>designation design, that consisted of a sword pointing upward,
>in the center of design border. And note, during peace time,
>that sword would be inverted.
That's plausible.
Hmmm,
B. Kelly
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> Would anyone know what the red symbol on the swamp door is?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
I'll go with a gut feeling here, too - I always thought that it was
derivative of an IUD.
Candela
>designation design, that consisted of a sword pointing upward,
>in the center of design border.
Though, not too noticeable - is the difference in the door's
symbol for the interior and exterior sets. The exterior's is
more bold, and easier to make out the design in natural light.
And/or it's a matter of indoor lighting and camera angle for the
former.
With a quick search though insignia, unit crests, military art,
etc., I found more swords than I could swallow.
The wishbone bordered sword, I did not see. Historic reference
to modeling MASH unit/s?
NeoScott
What's black & white and red all over?
>I can't picture it at the moment, so I'm going with my gut -- I
>think it's a caduseus
Your gut's a caduseus?.
>As I remember it, its an upside down horse-shoe with horns on
>the ends.
A jump-rope?
>IIRC, it's a peace symbol, is it not??
"I-llustrious I-mage R-estricts C-omprehension?" Err, not.
>I always thought it looked like some kind of bug.
Naah, three-legged sqid, with two toes.
>The "Peace Sign" was created by two British housewives in 1951
I'm thinking it was the Almighty who first set it free to soar
in the heavens and reflect light off his white fluffiness.
>The design that was on the "Swamp's" door, I believe was a unit
>designation design, that consisted of a sword pointing upward,
>in the center of design border.
That sounds too simple... too regular army.
>I'll go with a gut feeling here, too - I always thought that it
>was derivative of an IUD.
Mmmkay.
>The wishbone bordered sword, I did not see. Historic reference
>to modeling MASH unit/s?
When you wish...upon...a door...makes no difference who you...
zzzzzz...bore?
It's a crossbow! It's a hawk for Hawkeye... It's a bird I tell
ya! A plane! No, it's one of those Blair Witch voodoo sticks!
This is a question for... Super Elsig! Sir of Supermashness,
could you share with us the reason and meaning behind the symbol?
Please, please, pretty please... with whipped cream and a cherry
on top?
Elsig
>
Somewhere in the archives of this NG - and in the archives of my own mind - is
the answer to this question.
I did know once, and I may know it once again, but at the moment ....
I do know that it is a symbol once used by some publisher on Somerset's
Maugham's work.
I will search my memory - with the hope that I can find my back to the present.
LG
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| Somewhere in the archives of this NG - and in the archives of my own
mind - is
| the answer to this question.
|
| I did know once, and I may know it once again, but at the moment ....
|
| I do know that it is a symbol once used by some publisher on Somerset's
| Maugham's work.
|
| I will search my memory - with the hope that I can find my back to the
present.
Abigail, where are you?
You probably know this... With Deja's archives out of circulation for now,
no answer is going to come from there.
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Genna
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> Now, I don't know the history of the peace symbol, but didn't it
> come around in the Hippie Days of the late 1960's?
> Of course, I never even realized there was a symbol painted on
> the door.
> --
> Paul Atreides
> atre...@sover.net
Funny....I always thought the peace symbol came about as an afterthought
from
WWII where it was used to denote V for Victory...Since Korea was only 5
years after WWII it would seem plausable they'd use it.
Just my Thoughts
Buck Rojerz
that's the way I heard it.
buck
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> Would anyone know what the red symbol on the swamp door is?
>
>
> Tim
The symbol appears on the door in the tv show and the film because it appears in a photograph of a doctor from the real 8055 MASH standing in front of a tent named "the Swamp" with that symbol on the door.
The symbol was likely on the door of the real Swamp because it was popular with young people at the time due to the popularity of the book "Razor's Edge" by W. Somerset Maugham which featured the symbol on it's cover. The author brought the symbol back from Africa where it is apparently a symbol meant to ward off the evil eye. Probably why someone would have painted it on their tent door when they are in a war zone.