What moment caused you to have sympathy for Frank Burns?
PowerLib
her new husband in the helicopter. Frank is standing there all alone on the
chopper pad, and as he watches the helicopter disappear into the distance, he
says softly: "Goodbye Margaret"
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Mark W. Ozburn
flaunting it in front of Frank with no feeling at all.
Frank got her back at the end when he told he had met another nurse and when
she commented that the new nurse was a bit young, he said that he though
"young was good for a change" or something to that effect. Frank, BJ and
Hawkeye had a rarely shared laugh.
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SptmbrWind
comes off the string and rolls across the floor, always makes me feel sorry for
him.. he looks so sad...
David Long
>
> How about when Margaret comes back from R&R and announcing her engagement
> flaunting it in front of Frank with no feeling at all.
>
> Frank got her back at the end when he told he had met another nurse and when
> she commented that the new nurse was a bit young, he said that he though
> "young was good for a change" or something to that effect. Frank, BJ and
> Hawkeye had a rarely shared laugh.
>
That was probably the only scene those three laughed together aside from
"Der Tag," the episode in which Potter asked Hawkeye and BJ to be nice
to Frank. Still, there weren't too many episodes which really about
sympathy for Frank. They did a good job of making him rather
dislikeable. It took a lot of talent for Linville to do the character.
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PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
: How about when Margaret comes back from R&R and announcing her engagement
: flaunting it in front of Frank with no feeling at all.
: Frank got her back at the end when he told he had met another nurse and when
: she commented that the new nurse was a bit young, he said that he though
: "young was good for a change" or something to that effect. Frank, BJ and
: Hawkeye had a rarely shared laugh.
That was a very nice moment, and I like it too and was disappointed that
they didn't follow up on it more during Linville's last year on the show.
But the most sympathetic moment for Frank in that episode was when he was
on the phone to his mother and said he'd had this friend who only
pretended to like him; "you know, like Dad used to?"
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G. Murphy
change" , & when Margaret leaves the table shattered he says " I really got her
with that one did'nt I ", Hawk & B.J crack up. My alltime favourite Frank moment
!
"Mark W. Ozburn" wrote:
> How about when Margaret comes back from R&R and announcing her engagement
> flaunting it in front of Frank with no feeling at all.
>
> Frank got her back at the end when he told he had met another nurse and when
> she commented that the new nurse was a bit young, he said that he though
> "young was good for a change" or something to that effect. Frank, BJ and
> Hawkeye had a rarely shared laugh.
>
SongSylvan
>for a
>change" , & when Margaret leaves the table shattered he says " I really got
>her
>with that one did'nt I ", Hawk & B.J crack up. My alltime favourite Frank
>moment
>!
>
I always wondered where the show might've gone if the writers had played on
that bonding moment--maybe even increased it to where Frank became real friends
with the others. (Still keep him a bit of a twit, though.)
Shannon
tra...@webtv.net
Only Larry Linville !!!!!
The way he delivered that line!!!!!!!
oh...and the yo-yo scene....i've been there
Ty
EMDRoberts
>Only Larry Linville !!!!!
>The way he delivered that line!!!!!!!
ITA. The only line in the history of television (and movies for that matter)
that actually brought tears to my eyes.
Mandy
PowerLib
>From: tra...@webtv.net
>Date: Mon, Apr 5, 1999 00:14 EDT
>Message-id: <10943-37...@newsd-282.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
>
>"Goodbye Margret"'
>Only Larry Linville !!!!!
>The way he delivered that line!!!!!!!
I agree. Margaret was the one person in the whole camp that was an ally of his.
Who thought like him, who provided a sympathetic shoulder to cry on and he
watched that go away leaving him to feel that he was now all alone.
The Dude
tra...@webtv.net skrev:
> "Goodbye Margret"'
> Only Larry Linville !!!!!
> The way he delivered that line!!!!!!!
IISpiFFyll
, >For me: The episode where Margaret has gotten married and is flying off with
>her new husband in the helicopter. Frank is standing there all alone on the
>chopper pad, and as he watches the helicopter disappear into the distance, he
>says softly: "Goodbye Margaret"
>
>
i have to admit, as much as i cannot stand frank, i felt so sad when margaret
left him like that. she just USED him. and it killed him so much he ended up
chasing after her and causing all kinds of havoc, and it was all her fault.
KaTe
Krazykat72
where frank talks to trapper about his family, and thanks him for helping with
the patient.
George Hiebert
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> >
> >
> >>"Goodbye Margret"'
> >>Only Larry Linville !!!!!
> >>The way he delivered that line!!!!!!!
> >
> >that actually brought tears to my eyes.
> >
> >Mandy
>
> soon thereafter. How Burns went cukoo in the end and went home and got a
> promotion at a VA Hospital in the states is beyond me.
>
> RD
People always foget, that was not Larry's last line. They had a final
scene where the guys are consoling Frank and talking about Margaret's
honeymoon and then decide it's time for a cold shower.
ROBDON33
Joemovie
>soon thereafter. How Burns went cukoo in the end and went home and got a
>promotion at a VA Hospital in the states is beyond me.
>
Actually at the end-end of "Margaret's Marriage" Larry deliver's his last line,
he tells Hawkeye, BJ, and Potter that he is going to take a cold shower as they
are sitting together after the wedding...hours after I assume...
PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
: People always foget, that was not Larry's last line. They had a final
: scene where the guys are consoling Frank and talking about Margaret's
: honeymoon and then decide it's time for a cold shower.
Yes, and this scene is usually dropped in reruns. Aggravating, as it's the
only other scene all year that approached the comraderie between Frank and
the boys from the tag of the engagement episode.
jdf179
Henry's death. Frank actually seems to be one of the most visibly shaken
people upon hearing the news. That look on his face, even though he has a
mask on, gets me every time.
--Jason--
IISpiFFyll
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>Lorraine
>
>
yeah but frank was too stupid to know what he was doing, the only person he
didnt want to upset was his "mommy".
IISpiFFyll
Buck Rojerz
I really agree with that. It made me feel like Frank might have thought, it
was a metaphor for his entire career.
Buck
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iispi...@aol.com (IISpiFFyll) wrote:
>
> i have to admit, as much as i cannot stand frank, i felt so sad when margaret
> left him like that. she just USED him. and it killed him so much he ended up
> chasing after her and causing all kinds of havoc, and it was all her fault.
> KaTe
>
Excuse me? Who used who?!?!
Frank used Margareth! She was his little plaything away from home. He
constantly fooled Margareth into beleiving that he would marry her, he gave
her fake pearls and sent the real ones (or that was his intention) to his
wife. When he was ill he thought more of his wife than of Margareth. I have
no doubts that he loved Margareth, but he still treated her like dirt. I
really can't blame Margareth for the way she treated Frank because of this.
When Frank uttered the lines "Goodbye Margareth," he did it because he then
really realised that this was his own fault. He loved her, but he had not
shown it and I think the truth hit him straight in the face when the chopper
left: He had lost her and it was his own fault!
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Audrey Meusel
but he was the liar, the cheat, etc. She was genuine, if warped.
algo01
PowerLib wrote in message <19990404112813...@ng03.aol.com>...
>For me: The episode where Margaret has gotten married and is flying off
with
>her new husband in the helicopter. Frank is standing there all alone on the
>chopper pad, and as he watches the helicopter disappear into the distance,
he
>says softly: "Goodbye Margaret"
>
>Take away the "nospam" to email.
i thought the episode where frank lost it for a while, and radar called his
mom and he said how sad his life was, for that moment, i felt really bad for
him.
And the yoyo was classic
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>
> i have to admit, as much as i cannot stand frank, i felt so sad when margaret
> left him like that. she just USED him. and it killed him so much he ended up
> chasing after her and causing all kinds of havoc, and it was all her fault.
> KaTe
IIRC, the episode that aired right before this was the one where Frank's wife
finds out about his affair and wants a divorce. Frank calls his wife, and not
knowing Margaret is listening in, starts badmouthing Margaret ("she's an Army
mule with bosoms"). In my mind, right after this episode was when Margaret
flew to Tokyo, met Donald, and, still hurting over the things Frank said,
accepted his hasty proposal.
Great scene in this episode: After talking his wife out of the divorce, Frank
hangs up the phone and, convinced the status quo has been resored, rubs his
hands and laughs a particularly weaselly little laugh.
Derek Carrow
"Wars don't last forever, Henry, only war does"
- Hawkeye
Audrey Meusel
of me, I can't place it, though I remember the actual yo-yo.
andr...@my-dejanews.com
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa wrote:
> In wich ep. was the yoyo-scene?
It was the Frank's birthday episode -- just saw it -- in which BJ and Hawkeye
stage a fight to give Frank the best birthday he can remember.
> tra...@webtv.net skrev:
>
> > "Goodbye Margret"'
> > Only Larry Linville !!!!!
> > The way he delivered that line!!!!!!!
> > oh...and the yo-yo scene....i've been there
> >
> > Ty
>
>
Elisabeth Wickeri
speaking of birthday episodes, i have to say one of the things which
always annoyed me is that we only ever saw 2 of frank's birthdays and one
of margaret's and no one elses. i know time is screwed up in general on
mash, but i think it would have been fun to see some other birthdays!
-- liz.
SptmbrWind
>always annoyed me is that we only ever saw 2 of frank's birthdays and one
>of margaret's and no one elses. i know time is screwed up in general on
>mash, but i think it would have been fun to see some other birthdays!
>
Although I haven't seen it, I think there is an episode where they plan a
surprise party for Hawkeye, but don't quote me on it.
Mikael Uhlin
Yeah, that's true. But if I remember correctly, it wasn't really his
birthday.
But in the last episode, they celebrate Erin Hunnicutts birthday.
PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
: >speaking of birthday episodes, i have to say one of the things which
: >always annoyed me is that we only ever saw 2 of frank's birthdays and one
: >of margaret's and no one elses. i know time is screwed up in general on
: >mash, but i think it would have been fun to see some other birthdays!
: >
: Although I haven't seen it, I think there is an episode where they plan a
: surprise party for Hawkeye, but don't quote me on it.
There's a party for Hawkeye in "Chief Surgeon Who?", and a wake in "The
Late Captain Pierce", but I don't recall any birthday party.
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Kendall Thomson
> There's a party for Hawkeye in "Chief Surgeon Who?", and a wake in "The
> Late Captain Pierce", but I don't recall any birthday party.
Perhaps they are referring to "Lend a Hand" where B.J. plans a surprise
B-Day party for Hawk (borrowing his birthday even though its not until
way later in the year). Hawk gets back at B.J. by skipping out with
Dr. Borelli and claiming it's B.J.'s anniversary (or something like that).
-Ken
SptmbrWind
>B-Day party for Hawk (borrowing his birthday even though its not until
>way later in the year). Hawk gets back at B.J. by skipping out with
>Dr. Borelli and claiming it's B.J.'s anniversary (or something like that).
I don't really know what I was referring to.. I've never seen the episode, but
your description sounds like what I was thinking about..
Bill Kinkaid
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>SptmbrWind (sptmb...@aol.com) wrote:
>
>: Although I haven't seen it, I think there is an episode where they plan a
>: surprise party for Hawkeye, but don't quote me on it.
>
>There's a party for Hawkeye in "Chief Surgeon Who?", and a wake in "The
>Late Captain Pierce", but I don't recall any birthday party.
>
It was planned as a mock birthday party for Hawkeye as a general morale
booster, but he wouldn't go along with it and managed to get it changed to
a mock anniversary party for BJ. The episode finished with a frostbitten
troop coming in to warm up and BJ informing one of them that it had
suddenly become his birthday. Great scenes with Klinger repeatedly having
to correct the writing on the cake.
Bill in Vancouver
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Abigail
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++ SptmbrWind (sptmb...@aol.com) wrote:
++ : >speaking of birthday episodes, i have to say one of the things which
++ : >always annoyed me is that we only ever saw 2 of frank's birthdays and one
++ : >of margaret's and no one elses. i know time is screwed up in general on
++ : >mash, but i think it would have been fun to see some other birthdays!
++ : >
++
++ : Although I haven't seen it, I think there is an episode where they plan a
++ : surprise party for Hawkeye, but don't quote me on it.
++
++ There's a party for Hawkeye in "Chief Surgeon Who?", and a wake in "The
++ Late Captain Pierce", but I don't recall any birthday party.
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189. Lend a Hand (S-621)
February 4, 1980
Written by Alan Alda
Directed by Alan Alda
Guest Stars: Robert Alda, Antony Alda, Daren Kelly, Shari Saba
Irritated that the 4077th is planning a "surprise" party for him,
Hawkeye volunteers to go to the aid of a wounded surgeon at the front.
An additional irritant to Hawkeye is the arrival of Dr. Borelli (Robert
Alda), a wisecracking medical advisor with whom he habitually disagrees.
(NOTE: Alda's brother Antony also appears in this episode as an ambu-
lance driver).
Abigail
The Searcher
where Margaret announces her engagement and Frank loses it, going out
and bringing captive a Korean family, then threatening Hawkeye, B.J. and
Potter until Radar saves the day with a phone call to his mother. When
Frank tells his mother people "only pretend to like me...like dad used
to" was just about the only human thing to come out of Burns' mouth.