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regula...@hotmail.com

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May 6, 2008, 12:18:42 AM5/6/08
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I often wonder if writers ever toyed with the idea of crafting an
episode where Hawkeye unexpectedly gets promoted to Major (the lateral
effects of that notion have always intrigued me). It would have
altered the complexion of his character, but it morphed on its own
anyway, and in my view, not favorably.

However risky a move it might have been, it could have presented the
one change that may have redeemed the worst of M*A*S*H seasons and
perhaps even added one or two more. Thing is, I think the primary cast
was losing its effectiveness long before the close of the series
anyway, and I suspect writers were considering that before attempting
anything new.

Abigail

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May 6, 2008, 5:59:21 AM5/6/08
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regula...@hotmail.com (regula...@hotmail.com) wrote on VCCCLXII
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++ I often wonder if writers ever toyed with the idea of crafting an
++ episode where Hawkeye unexpectedly gets promoted to Major (the lateral
++ effects of that notion have always intrigued me). It would have
++ altered the complexion of his character, but it morphed on its own
++ anyway, and in my view, not favorably.
++
++ However risky a move it might have been, it could have presented the
++ one change that may have redeemed the worst of M*A*S*H seasons and
++ perhaps even added one or two more. Thing is, I think the primary cast
++ was losing its effectiveness long before the close of the series
++ anyway, and I suspect writers were considering that before attempting
++ anything new.


I think the only time where Hawkeyes rank would have played a minor
part was in the early series. Frank (and Margaret, but even less so)
tried to play his "I'm a Major, you're a Captain" card a few times,
but unsuccesfully.

Abigail

Eddie

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May 6, 2008, 10:41:31 AM5/6/08
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"Abigail" <abi...@abigail.be> wrote in message
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"You can't order me"

"Then make it a threat"

"Oh, well, that's different"


Maciej Bojko

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May 6, 2008, 12:11:14 PM5/6/08
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On Mon, 5 May 2008 21:18:42 -0700 (PDT), regula...@hotmail.com
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>I often wonder if writers ever toyed with the idea of crafting an
>episode where Hawkeye unexpectedly gets promoted to Major (the lateral
>effects of that notion have always intrigued me). It would have
>altered the complexion of his character, but it morphed on its own
>anyway, and in my view, not favorably.

No one would care about it, and least of all Hawkeye himself. When
exactly did he show any respect for <quote>that GI crappola<\quote>?

--
Maciej Bójko
maciej...@gmail.com

Eddie

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May 6, 2008, 2:26:22 PM5/6/08
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"Maciej Bojko" <maciej...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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There was a glimpse of it when he was left in command and blew his cork when
BJ left camp without telling him.
Margaret: "If Frank Burns could see you now."


George Hiebert

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May 6, 2008, 11:18:44 PM5/6/08
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"Eddie" <Pba...@aol.com> wrote

>
> "You can't order me"
>
> "Then make it a threat"
>
> "Oh, well, that's different"

"This was a swell war till you guys showed up."


Eddie

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May 6, 2008, 11:52:43 PM5/6/08
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"George Hiebert" <ge...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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" I love it here"


Stormin Mormon

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May 7, 2008, 8:22:15 AM5/7/08
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How about promote him further to Col. Pierce, and he can run the camp? That
could be interesting.

And how about Winchester as camp commandant?

--
Christopher A. Young
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Cory

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May 9, 2008, 1:48:30 AM5/9/08
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On May 6, 2:26 pm, "Eddie" <Pbas...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Maciej Bojko" <maciej.bo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:si0124lehsa78p5rq...@4ax.com...
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> > On Mon, 5 May 2008 21:18:42 -0700 (PDT), regulargr...@hotmail.com

> > wrote:
>
> >>I often wonder if writers ever toyed with the idea of crafting an
> >>episode where Hawkeye unexpectedly gets promoted to Major (the lateral
> >>effects of that notion have always intrigued me). It would have
> >>altered the complexion of his character, but it morphed on its own
> >>anyway, and in my view, not favorably.
>
> > No one would care about it, and least of all Hawkeye himself. When
> > exactly did he show any respect for <quote>that GI crappola<\quote>?
>
> There was a glimpse of it when he was left in command and blew his cork when
> BJ left camp without telling him.
> Margaret: "If Frank Burns could see you now."

To this day, I still laugh my arse off at that scene... hell,
practically the whole episode (and not in a "ha-ha funny!" way,
either... more like a sarcastic, "you gotta be kidding me with THIS
crapola!" kind of snicker). Margaret is so dead on target when she
throws that Burns line at Pierce that it's not funny. I keep thinking
during this episode that the writers must have been on strike or
something and that this was the scab writers' idea of a practical
joke.

It was a stupid episode. HAWKEYE in charge???!! I KNOW that that was
the gist of the episode, but c'mon... all of these conditions
collided, in a manner of speaking, like a perfect storm, to thrust
HAWKEYE into the CO's chair???!! WHO were they KIDDING???!!

--- Cory

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Eddie

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May 9, 2008, 11:04:14 AM5/9/08
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"Cory" <my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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--- Cory

Ya know, Cory, there had to come a day when you and I would completely agree
on a single episode. That day has arrived. Please pass me a Guinness Extra
Stout!


Cory

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May 9, 2008, 6:14:34 PM5/9/08
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On May 9, 11:04 am, "Eddie" <Pbas...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Cory" <my_wheel_l...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

OK... here!

;-P

Seriously, this is one of those rare episodes where it seemed like the
writers sat there and said, "Y'know, we're fresh out of ideas... what
do we do?? Oh! I KNOW!!!"

Yeesh...

--- Cory

Cory

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May 9, 2008, 6:19:07 PM5/9/08
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On May 9, 4:22 am, "A" <a...@att.net> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes

>
> "Cory" <my_wheel_l...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
<snip...>

> >To this day, I still laugh my arse off at that scene...
>
>          Contradicted by your comment I commented on below.

>
> >hell,
> >practically the whole episode (and not in a "ha-ha funny!" way,
> >either... more like a sarcastic, "you gotta be kidding me with THIS
> >crapola!" kind of snicker).  Margaret is so dead on target when she
> >throws that Burns line at Pierce that it's not funny.
>
>           So, is it funny--or not?

It's not. I laugh in a "Are you kidding me with this?!" way.

> >I keep thinking during this episode that the writers must have been
> >on strike or something and that this was the scab writers' idea of a practical
> >joke. It was a stupid episode.  HAWKEYE in charge???!!  I KNOW that that
> >was the gist of the episode, but c'mon... all of these conditions collided, in a
> >manner of speaking, like a perfect storm, to thrust HAWKEYE into the CO's
> >chair???!!  WHO were they KIDDING???!!
>

>     The writers can't get anything past you, Cory.  <g>

I know! Didn't you get the memo?! I'm the next freaking Albert
Einstein!!!!!

;-P

--- Cory

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