Henry's black eye

[lagata76]

Does anyone know why McLean Stevenson has a black eye (barely covered
by makeup) in several episodes of season three?

[wschlu...@neb.rr.com]

I heard Wayne Newton say one time that McLean was publically commenting on
how Wayne was really gay and one day Wayne confronted him and left McLean
crying in the corner. Maybe he punched him?
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[wschlu...@neb.rr.com]

No, that is a true story according to Wayne Newton. I have no idea if that
is why he had the black eye or even if it happened while he was on Mash but
it is a true story. I think I saw it on one of those E! True Hollywood
Specials.
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oh, i saw the true hollywood story episode you're referring to - i just
think that wayne newton was embellishing a good deal of those stories.
i have no doubt he confronted mclean (and carson too, i believe), but i
seriously doubt he left either man quivering with fear.

he came off sounding like the kid who talks big in the hopes of
convincing you that he shouldn't be messed with.

just my take on it, but i doubt he had mclean crying, much less wounded.

[Fshrly834]

Yeah, the whole Wayne Newton version of what happened has a very strong
barnyard aroma.

[wschlu...@neb.rr.com]

I got the impression that Wayne was being very defensive about those claims.
Not that the rumors were true but that he had some self-esteem issues that
he was covering up with extra bravado. As for McLean I have heard a few
actors, I believe Loretta Swit in particular who said McLean was a very
sensitive man... so maybe he did cry easily.

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[PAUL GADZIKOWSKI]

George B. Eldredge, Jr. <gel...@nospamlsu.edu> wrote:
: oh, i saw the true hollywood story episode you're referring to - i just

: think that wayne newton was embellishing a good deal of those stories.
: i have no doubt he confronted mclean (and carson too, i believe), but i
: seriously doubt he left either man quivering with fear.
:
: he came off sounding like the kid who talks big in the hopes of
: convincing you that he shouldn't be messed with.
:
: just my take on it, but i doubt he had mclean crying, much less wounded.

Now I love Mac as much as the next straight guy does, but he himself was
always the first to cast aspersions on his own masculinity ("I wasn't
allowed to make a fist until I was eighteen."). I don't think it's out of
the question that someone of Wayne Newton's size, and of the bully's
temprament you're ascribing to him, could have taken advantage of someone
as bulliable as Mac. Not endorsing Newton's story, but there you are.

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[RNeill22]

>Subject: Re: Henry's black eye

>: i have no doubt he confronted mclean (and carson too, i believe), but i
>: seriously doubt he left either man quivering with fear.

I'd always heard that Wayne Newton story in reference Johnny Carson, too,
rather than Stevenson. Supposedly Johnny Carson was including jokes in the
Tonight show monologue along the lines of: "I went to Vegas and saw Wayne
Newton in a pink bathtub with Liberace..."

That recounting of the story said Carson's jokes were inspired by his feeling
insecure about Newton dating Carson's ex-wife. Supposedly Newton confronted
Carson about it and Carson backed down (without tears or violence in the story
as I heard it).