Thurs. EP - Rick's Sister murdered.
Andrew
'Innocent Angel', comes to visit and gets murdered for drug related
matters.
I loved that last part where Magnum is awoken from the noise of the RC
Aircraft Higgins is flying. He then procedes to Shoot the Craft out of
the sky with a Rifle/Shotgun.
I loved that. (Didn't think he'd really do it)
Andrew
Mermolo
either...and the look on Higgin's face is just priceless!
Scott
Andrew <mar...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
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So did I. It is a very memorable magnum moment:
A dead tired TM pulls back the covers, takes off
his shoes and the annoying whine commences.
TM does one of his hangs head in despair things, says
"Morning Higgins" ::polite waves exchanged:: BOOM!
I love how TM ejects the shells, rests the shotgun on his
shoulder and looks away, hilarious.
I noticed in the credits at the end they showed a still
of Thomas aiming the gun which was not shown in the ep.
I don't think it would have worked as well if they had
shown that because it would not have let us wonder exactly
what happened to Higgy's toy. I remember having seen
a still at the end that was a slighty different shot than
the one actually shown in the episode but don't know if all
the stills at the end are indeed in the episode, if they are
then this aiming scene would have had to been cut out at
some point.
Scott
Beverly Kai
.
When TM comes out, he is coming from the wrong direction (re his view
from his bedroom windowl).
The view is far different from the view from the outbuilding used for
guesthouse exteriors in the early years.
Just think of movie magic - - - -or spacewarp. Hey, it's only a tv show!
Beverly Kai
with different props, clothes, etc.
Stills can be taken from any one of these 'takes'.
The final cut that we see isn't always the only version.
I just saw Dangerous Liasons on cable here, and the Uma Thurman wore a
lot more clothes than she did in the version I saw in Australia.
I saw a Clint Eastwood in Southeast Asia that was positively prurient in
a couple of key scenes.
Editing is not always for artistic reasons, but in Magnum, he was not
aiming for the Asian market. . . . .. all the principals are Haoles. He
made the show for the US mainland.. In reality here in Honolulu, most
people are people of color, and MPI doesn't reflect that.
again, hey, it's only a tv show.
Scott
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> Each scene is shot at least five times from different angles, closeups,
> with different props, clothes, etc.
>
> Stills can be taken from any one of these 'takes'.
I don't remember ever seeing TM aiming the shotgun when I had
seen the ep earlier, but that was over a decade ago, so it probably
was just one of those numerous takes.
> I just saw Dangerous Liasons on cable here, and the Uma Thurman wore a
> lot more clothes than she did in the version I saw in Australia.
>
> I saw a Clint Eastwood in Southeast Asia that was positively prurient in
> a couple of key scenes. ****
Heeyyyy................. how come we're missing out on all the fun!
Oh.........victorian Americans.
*** Do tell: Bridges of Madison County? Spaghetti Western? Dirty Harry?
Marco Smetz
wrote:
>When TM comes out, he is coming from the wrong direction (re his view
>from his bedroom windowl).
Yepp, he looks out of the window in the guesthouse (the set in the
studio). Then he comes from behind the main house - one beatyful
shot, where we can see parts of the main house not shown in any
other ep. if I remember it correctly.
>The view is far different from the view from the outbuilding used for
>guesthouse exteriors in the early years.
It's the side wing, where Higgins office is claimed to be located.
BUT - it could also be that TM has gone into the main house to get
the rifle (have you ever seen that weapon in the guest house) and thus
he had to come from that side? So it all could be "correct", also .-)
Marco
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might surprised when Thomas actually destroyed the plane Higgins was flying.
I personally thought it was out of character for him to do such a thing. I
never would have believed Thomas would so blantanly destroy someone's
personal property in such a manner no matter what the reason. Moreover,
the look on Higgins indicated to me that he didn't either. Like I said, I
just reacted a little differently than you folks.
Bob
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Beverly Kai
Wars."
Of course, Higgins asked for it by leaving that chicken head in TM's
bed. That mean't war.
The two men seem to be destroying only each other's toys . .
Which reminds, me, this is a serious query. The Johnson Smith catalogue
doesnt list groucho-nose and glasses or the gorilla head. except on
Hallowee'en, and the clerk when I called said "You have to give me the
catalogue numer." He didn't know the merchandise.
Is there anyone out there that can give me the numbers - -or another
source at least for the glasses? I need them for my grandsons. who are
at just the right age.
I will be happy to send a genuine "lavastone" tiki to anyone who can
give me a good lead.
Bob and Lynne Gailey
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Beverly Kai
a six-foot boa constrictor in her back yard.
The local news carried shots of it, and it was simply beautiful - -a
gorgeous animal.
This was probably another case of someone harboring an illegal pet until
it got too big to keep -and the person was too ashamed to turn it in
and admit breaking the law.
So he just turned it loose to live on rats and bird eggs. This is how
Guam lost all its native birds to the brown tree snake. The forests are
said to be full of cobwebs because there are no birds to eat the insects
- -- - and the forests are silent. No bird calls. Volunteers are trying
to restock with birds from the Phillippenes, but of course endemic
species are gone forever.
Anyone turning in an illegal animal in Hawaii is given amnesty no
questions asked. The situation is that serious.
The nightmare, of course, is a pregnant brown tree snake making from
Guam through cargo aircraft and ships.
But, oh! the boa was beautiful!!!! Maybe it just got loose. . . .. .
Sometimes reality really sucks.
ANIM8Rfsk
http://cssa.org/humor/weird_gun_news.html
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Scott
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> Yepp, he looks out of the window in the guesthouse (the set in the
> studio). Then he comes from behind the main house - one beatyful
> shot, where we can see parts of the main house not shown in any
> other ep. if I remember it correctly.
Not to beat the issue too far into the ground, but:
The view that Thomas sees from his bedroom window definitely
looks like it is looking upon the grass that separates the main
house and the seawall and by appearances would seem to be
near the right rear of the main house as you face the water.
One other thing, on the map of the estate it appears to show that
you would be facing the ocean as you went up the steps to the
guest house. Correct?
In the layout of the guest house (set) as you go to the top of the
steps you go left through the door and onto the landing where
you can look down into TM's pad. To your left as you stand on
this landing would be the ocean (as TM's bedroom is to the far
left and the window by the headboard of the bed looks out on the
water). So as you climb the steps the ocean should be at your back
in order for the above to make sense but the way the steps are
situated on the map would put TM's window looking inland instead.
Does this make sense?
Now that I am thinking about the layout ,TM's bedroom goes into
a space that would clearly go past the wall that the front door
is located which would mean that there should be a protrusion
of this room into the side yard where the steps go upwards.
This would appear as an "L" shape as viewed from above.
Follow me?
I recall one episode that TM comes barreling down the stairs
from his place and trips over the babe of the week, I believe it
was either the girl that was rescued from the Italian Villa or
J. Digger, either way I have neither on tape. This footage
would seem to potentially illustrate if the steps shown here
face the water as you come down them as would be indicated
by the set and whether there is an extension from the structure
that would indicate a potential place for the bedroom (I doubt
this is shown if it is actual footage of the "real GH" as we know
that it is rectangular without this type of extension.
I know that the set and the actual estate do not always mesh
but it would be nice to know my spatial abilities are somewhat
intact and if the observations seem to be accurate.
I know there must be some other spatial cases out there
who may have wondered about such things!! :-)
Scott
David Romas
bk...@webtv.net says...
>Which reminds, me, this is a serious query. The Johnson Smith catalogue
>doesnt list groucho-nose and glasses or the gorilla head. except on
>Hallowee'en, and the clerk when I called said "You have to give me the
>catalogue numer." He didn't know the merchandise. Is there anyone out
>there that can give me the numbers - -or another source at least for the
>glasses? I need them for my grandsons. who are at just the right age.
Bev,
Here's another "Johnson Smith"-type company that sells most of these kinds
of gag items. I've used them in the past for things like the nose glasses.
Oriental Trading Co., Inc.
PO Box 2554
Omaha, NE 68103-2554
1-800-228-2269
I believe the catalog is free.
>I will be happy to send a genuine "lavastone" tiki to anyone who can
>give me a good lead.
David Romas
Magnum Memorabilia
PO Box 02306
Detroit, MI 48202
David Romas
>Not to beat the issue too far into the ground,
There is no such condition known at Magnum Memorabilia, where one of our
mottos is "no minutae too small."
>One other thing, on the map of the estate it appears to show that
>you would be facing the ocean as you went up the steps to the
>guest house. Correct?
You are correct. That, in fact, is how things are situated.
>In the layout of the guest house (set) as you go to the top of the
>steps you go left through the door and onto the landing where
>you can look down into TM's pad.
Almost. There actually is another left turn. You would climb the
outdoor stairs, turn left at the top and be on Magnum's roofed porch
which too faces toward the tidal pool, then turn left to face away
from the tidal pool to enter Magnum's front door. When you stand on
that porch, you are standing over his bedroom. As you pass through
the front door, you are facing into his livingroom/kitchen area and
away from the ocean. In other words, if you stood in his open
front door facing outward, you would be facing the same direction
you are when climbing up the exterior stairs.
>To your left as you stand on this landing would be the ocean (as
>TM's bedroom is to the far left and the window by the headboard of
>the bed looks out on the water). So as you climb the steps the ocean
>should be at your back in order for the above to make sense but the
>way the steps are situated on the map would put TM's window looking
>inland instead. Does this make sense?
Not for me, I'm afraid. If you're standing in either of the windows
next to TM's bed looking outward, you are facing the tidal pool. His
bathroom is to your left and on the outside of the wall to your right
is where the exterior stairs run up. And you are facing in the same
direction right now as when you climb those exterior stairs.
>Now that I am thinking about the layout ,TM's bedroom goes into
>a space that would clearly go past the wall that the front door
>is located which would mean that there should be a protrusion
>of this room into the side yard where the steps go upwards.
>This would appear as an "L" shape as viewed from above.
>Follow me?
Yes. I think I can clear it up. The reason the house would look like
a square or rectangle from above instead of an "L" is that the same
wall his front door is in also is the wall his bedroom door is in, the
door he uses to go from the livingroom to the bedroom. The extended
space downstairs that allows for his bedroom and bathroom is equaled up
above by that long porch (lanai) that extends all along the ocean-side
of the guest house, extending above his bedroom and bathroom.
>I recall one episode that TM comes barreling down the stairs
>from his place and trips over the babe of the week... This footage
>would seem to potentially illustrate if the steps shown here
>face the water as you come down them
They actually face exactly away from the water. Coming down them, you
have to completely reverse direction at the bottom in order to head
for the tidal pool.
>I know that the set and the actual estate do not always mesh
>but it would be nice to know my spatial abilities are somewhat
>intact and if the observations seem to be accurate.
In the case of the guest house, I'm afraid the fake set and the
actual structure do mesh perfectly. I wish this medium (typing
on the newsgroup) enabled me to submit my drawing of all this!
>I know there must be some other spatial cases out there
>who may have wondered about such things!! :-)
"Spatial cases" - I like that! :-) You are correct, I'm another one
who, some fifteen years ago, sat and puzzled it all out watching
the shows and sketching from all angles. Like I said, no minutae too
small. ;-)
David Romas
Magnum Memorabilia
(MPI's comprehensive info. clearinghouse)
Beverly Kai
I think you are going to have to come out here and lurk at the turtle
ponds.
You don't have it right because THEY were not consistant.
To paraphrase: It's not you. It's not me. I'ts them.
If the building whose exterior is used as the guesthouse were actually
the guesthouse---
Going out the front door (upstairs), you are facing the sea. You are
on an upstairs lanai facing the sea. To the right of the lanai, stairs
lead back down the side of the building. As you go down the stairs,
your back is to the sea.
Likewise, the bedroom window, which faces the same dircection as the
front door above, faces the sea, If it were a bedroom and there were a
casement window there.
As you walk thru the drive-thru in the main house, to the right is
an open garage/tool-storage area. To your left, behind the length of
the main house, are dressing rooms and shower stalls. These are never
seen, because they were badly in need of paint when I was there in' 87.
As you walk the length of the rear of the main house, the bathhouse
facility is at the seaward corner, where the short wing makesa right
angle to the main house.
Turning left after the bathhouse,
you are walking behind the short wing of the main house. To your left
is the short wing. To your right is the lawn, the shrubs, and the
twelve-foot sea wall where the samurai sat. As you walk along behind
the short wing, you are walking downhill.
The downhill slope continues with wall and shrubs on your right.
The slope cotinues on past the short wing.
When you reach the bottom of the slope, there is a break in the
shurbs to your right. There is a narrow-chain link gate in the break.
This is still to your right. Beyond the gate is the beach and ponds.
You are facing the side wall of the guesthouse, which has its own double
gate to the beach.
You can see the outside stairs along the side of the guesthouse.
If you try to place the guesthouse anywhere in the main house, you
had better contact Jodie Foster, because you have just found the
topological loop in space- time. Or else your brain is in a knot and
thinks it has the solution.
The only way TM could look out his window and see Agatha and
Higgie flying planes, is if his bedroom is in the short wing of the main
house. - - -and then howcome we see him running from the back of the
main house, as if from the drive-thru?
Late in the series, this is pretty standard. I have no idea why they
made the change.
As you look thru the main gate from the road, you see, in order, the
gate house and then the tennis court. Out of sight behind between the
tennis court and the sea, is the "guesthouse"
The grade of the lot slopes slightly downhill from the main gate towards
the sea, but uphill to the main house with the highest points behind the
main house. This grading made the twelve-foot sea wall necessary. The
height of the wall decreases as you walk down the slope to the first
narrow gate to the pools.
Incidently
In the book I posted, True Tales of Hawaii, one eyewitness sag tells of
rock pools for storing live fish as part of the Micronesian seascape.
Men were driving fish into the pools with nets and noise.
Beverly Kai
How funny, the "Oriental" trading company.
email me your address nd you will get your genuine ABC / 7-AEleven tiki.
Do you want the larger desk model, the keychain model, or the one-footer
to scare the kiddies. I draw the line at anything bitgger.
Scott
David Romas <ac2...@wayne.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <zd%D4.118538$_G1.9...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com>, Scott
says...
> >Not to beat the issue too far into the ground,
>
> There is no such condition known at Magnum Memorabilia, where one of our
> mottos is "no minutae too small."
This is indeed good to hear. I always subscribed to the
"there are no stupid questions" notion. Heck if you don't
know the answer then it is not stupid (at least not to you).
Aside from that where better to get picky than at AtvMPI.
> >In the layout of the guest house (set) as you go to the top of the
> >steps you go left through the door and onto the landing where
> >you can look down into TM's pad.
>
> Almost. There actually is another left turn.
Uh oh...... methinks this is part of the problem.
>You would climb the
> outdoor stairs, turn left at the top and be on Magnum's roofed porch
> which too faces toward the tidal pool, then turn left to face away
> from the tidal pool to enter Magnum's front door.
Follow you so far but how far would you walk across the porch that
fronts the ocean after leaving the steps before you come to the door.
Is this door right off the porch, or somehow recessed?
>When you stand on
> that porch, you are standing over his bedroom. As you pass through
> the front door, you are facing into his livingroom/kitchen area and
> away from the ocean.
This is where I am missing something.
How could the front door be so close to right over the bedroom?
>In other words, if you stood in his open
> front door facing outward, you would be facing the same direction
> you are when climbing up the exterior stairs.
O.K. - So if you face out the front door you would be facing
the ocean as this is what you face when you climb the stairs.
Correct?
Here is my confusion. The front door and the
bedroom door are on the same wall, right?
So if you face the ocean as you look out the front door you
should likewise be facing the ocean as you enter the bedroom.
(Although you wouldn't be able to see it)
But instead the windows to your right as you enter the bedroom
face the ocean, not the area directly in front of you. See my point?
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To make sense (to me) you would need to go up the steps,
go across the porch, hang a left, (at the D) walk a bit, then
hang another left to enter the front door (E). This would
then have the proper layout such that as you go in the door,
to your left would be the ocean and the bulk of the living space.
In the above layout "C" is the couch and "D" is approximately
where the bedroom door is. If you went through this door the
view out the windows to your right as you enter the bedroom (B)
would be of the tidepools. And as you said, the area of the
bedroom would be under the front porch.
>If you're standing in either of the windows
> next to TM's bed looking outward, you are facing the tidal pool. His
> bathroom is to your left and on the outside of the wall to your right
> is where the exterior stairs run up. And you are facing in the same
> direction right now as when you climb those exterior stairs.
This would jibe with my scenario above.
Still - I'm missing somthing but not sure what.
> I wish this medium ....enabled me to submit my drawing of all this!
Soon enough I'm sure!
Scott
Scott
> Scott - - you don't have it right.
What else is new... :-(
> I think you are going to have to come out here and lurk at the turtle
> ponds.
It hasn't even been a month since I've been over.
Nevertheless......Sounds good to me.
(Those dogs were kicking up a ruckus and
stirring up the occupant (s) so I didn't lurk too
long.)
But you are right, I think the guest house warrants
another exploratory trip. I must figure this out, at any cost!
Or I could get those photos developed - naw, wouldn't be as fun.
> If the building whose exterior is used as the guesthouse were actually
> the guesthouse---
>
> Going out the front door (upstairs), you are facing the sea. You are
> on an upstairs lanai facing the sea. To the right of the lanai, stairs
> lead back down the side of the building. As you go down the stairs,
> your back is to the sea.
>
> Likewise, the bedroom window, which faces the same dircection as the
> front door above, faces the sea, If it were a bedroom and there were a
> casement window there.
Gotcha, but:
This is where my brain is skipping. Yes, it is perfectly logical that
if the view out the front door is to the sea, so should the bedroom
window be parallel to the front door. But as people come in
the front door the windows of the bedroom are at a 90 degree
angle to this door, not parallel to it.
WIndow --> l
Front door ->__ Bedroom door->___
This is to say if you came in the front door, went down the
steps and then into the bedroom the door to the bedroom
would be in line with the front door but the windows wouldn't.
With this in mind - as the front door faces the sea
it would seem that coming through the front door
the bedroom windows should face the main house
not the sea. It seems that the front door should face
outward toward Waimanalo so that as you come in, the
bedroom windows would be properly on the wall to your
left as you entered.
(Picture both Waimanalo and then the sea located at the top
of the page in relation to my rudimentary diagram and where
things would face with regard to each scenario)
I know the bulb will go off sooner or later.
I do realize that the plane flying scene is totally messed up.
I am just trying to figure out how the real guest house and
set are configured as David said they are in fact set up
in a manner that could exist logically in the existing GH.
::Snipped - very good description of the grounds on the other
side of things::
Scott
David Romas
>O.K. - So if you face out the front door you would be facing
>the ocean as this is what you face when you climb the stairs.
>Correct?
Correct.
>Here is my confusion. The front door and the
>bedroom door are on the same wall, right?
Correct. Yet the door to the outside is not directly above the door
to the bedroom. There's the width of a whole fireplace and mantle
between them (horizontally speaking).
>So if you face the ocean as you look out the front door you
>should likewise be facing the ocean as you enter the bedroom.
Correct.
>But instead the windows to your right as you enter the bedroom
>face the ocean, not the area directly in front of you. See my point?
There are no windows to your right as you enter the bedroom. The only
windows in the bedroom are directly in front of you, on each side of
Magnum's bed's headboard, as you enter the bedroom. That's why they
face the ocean.
What is to your right, as you enter the bedroom, is a solid wall with
no windows. The reason it has no windows is because they would look
out against the exterior stair case (in other words, no view).
>Still - I'm missing somthing but not sure what.
Scott, if you wish, email your conventional mail address to me and I
can "snail-mail" my drawings to you. ac2...@wayne.edu
Best,
David Romas
Magnum Memorabilia
(MPI's international fan organization)