monte walsh
RonnyClams
how much weight he has put on, then it is obvious that there can not
ever be a MAgnum movie..... wouldnt be the same.
Monte Walsh was supposed to be set in the late 1800's turn of the
century period. It was shot to look like it just happenned yesterday.
Legends of the Fall was the last period type movie that did an
excellent job at capturing that essence. This Monte Walsh looks like
it was shot with a regular camera you can buy at Best Buy.
TS did a good job of acting. But certain scenes were just tooo corny.
Like when the cowboys get into a fight with the railroad guys. What
a load of crap. And the second fight scene with all of the Cowboys in
the bunk house.... another load of crap. TS has aged alot! He needs
a facelift or something. Its funny just a few years ago he was on
Friends and he still looked awesome ..... young and chiseled. Now,
his face has got more lines than a road map and he is really fat. A
Magnum movie would never work now. Never in a million years. Part
of the Magnum lore was the scenery, the beach, the surfski, running,
exercising. Its obvious those scenes would have to be omitted from
the screenplay. Without that its not truly a Magnum movie.
Any thoughts... ideas.
Don't make me be the only one who can give an honest opinion.
RonnyClams in NY
Richard V.
Hi Ronny,
I have to disagree with you about TS. I know he could and would
return to excellent physical shape (for late 50's) of a MPI movie.
You see, TS is an athlete. He can regain form much more easliy than
your average person. Tom has been active his whole life and knows
what it would take to get (back?) into shape. I can say this with
some certainty, since my athletic background is similar to his. In 8
months TS could transform himself... the question is, why should he?
I'm in my 40's and I find peaking for tourny's or particular events is
much more of an investment than it was just 10 yrs ago. Can he pay
the price? Yes. Would he? Yes. Will he without the Magnum goal? ?
I did like Monte Walsh. Your comments about the cinematography are a
bit puzzling. Could you expand on your thoughts?
Post to the group
Is Late Feb. a good time to visit Hawaii? I'm considering a trip in
the near future and was wondering about the positives and negatives
about a short vacation to oahu in the next couple of months. Thanks
Muchly!
Richard V.
Roland Mans
A pleasant and refreshing critique of Monte Walsh. What a well rounded
opinion and how novel of you to point out some things all of us might have
missed. I look forward to your bright and intelligent input as it's rare
nowadays to get such. I do differ in opinion of the show as I found it
simply marvelous and refreshing. As a cowboy myself, I found the tale of
Monte Walsh a portrayal of guy that did what he did because he wanted to not
because he had to. The Monte Walsh's of the world today are a welcome but
rare individual that isn't worried about the frivol and fluff nor the
packaging most of us are impressed by. I do say... Monte Walsh For
President. All in fun old boy.
As far as Tom Selleck goes, don't talk about my big brother like that.... he
earned all those lines and extra pounds the old fashioned way. He's a good
guy. Sure he's older but alive and full of life just like I am pal. Big
deal. The movie was about a cowboy not a valleyboy. And as far as a Magnum
Movie goes, the good thing about TS is... if he wants to do it he will
because he can.
Personally thought Monte Walsh was done real well and am looking forward to
seeing it again tonight in spite of the babble. Oh by the way... the first
paragraph was a bunch of BS.
Rolie
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<< Ok the movie itself was ok. But after seeing how TS has aged and
how much weight he has put on, then it is obvious that there can not
ever be a MAgnum movie..... wouldnt be the same. >>
Selleck looked a LOT more like he could pull off Magnum on Conan than he did in
Monte Walsh.
<< Monte Walsh was supposed to be set in the late 1800's turn of the
century period >>
And they got the turn of the century wrong, which was amusing to me, as at that
time, nobody was incorrectly arguing that 1900 was the 20th Century - they
celebrated in 1901. It was only the turn of the 21st Century people first
insisted on getting wrong.
<< This Monte Walsh looks like
it was shot with a regular camera you can buy at Best Buy. >>
Yeah, the look of it was distracting.
Martin Eden
Mr. Selleck did a great job. The movie wasn't about a western per se
as it was a movie about the end of an era. It's about accepting
change or not accepting change. It brought the dilemma to the
forefront. Some people will crash and burn, while others will have an
easy transition. You feel for these guys in this movie. Their are
men and women like him all around us. I KNOW some personally.
The guy who committed suicide in the movie was realistic. I really
felt for him. Walsh line was great when he commented about the jumper
feeling the pain before the jump. Sometimes life is more painful than
the actual process of committing suicide. Some people live in Fear
that much.
As for Tom's aging…big deal. People age. It doesn't matter what age
you are. The point of life is this comment from Jack London:
I would rather be ashes than dust!
I would rather that my spark should burn out
in a brilliant blaze than it should be stifled by dry-rot.
I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom
of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet.
The function of man is to live, not to exist.
I shall not waste my days trying to prolong them.
I shall use my time.
I have posted this axiom to this group before. But isn't it truthful?
Tom Selleck has always been proactive throughout his life/career. He
is involved with numerous charities, does political work, makes
movies, etc. And one wants to judge him by being a FEW pounds
overweight? (BTW, it's nothing that can't be taken off with one month
on the stair master--or twenty minutes of jogging three times a week.)
Make the damn Magnum movie.
Martin Eden
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Beverly Kai
Grit.
At the end, when Rooster is saying goodby to the girl, he turns his
horse, rides across a pasture, and jumps a rail fence.
Comes back to the girl, stops briefly, and says ' Not bad for a one-eyed
fat man.', and takes off for good . . .. .
Anyone want to try riding at a gallop beside an undisciplined herd of
horses???
I agree that TS's last face lift has worn off- -but on Friends, he was
in full makeup under flattering studio lights. Same on Conan.
Monte Walsh IS a tired aging guy. No one sets him up with a baby
spotlight to hide his jowels and beard.
It is called ACTING. On Friends, the character was a Westchester doctor
who probably works out regularly as opposed to riding a horse all day,
every day.
Different characters have different "looks'.
I approve of the facelift wearing off. The man is pushing sixty- - and
it looks like he is aiming his career away from being a 'Leading Man.'
People are even beginning to comment on Harrison Ford.
Of course Clint is 73, and his face is so tight that you could bounce a
basketball off it, - - but then, he is Clint.
Isabella Rossellini was born in 1949. Of course it helps if you Mom is
Ingrid Bergman and Lancomb cared for your skin for two decades . . . .
i noted on the A & E Biography, that mosely is 7 years older than TS - -
and now THAT is graceful agining. He said nice things, too because
everyone herre knew that he wasn't a happy man. He found that the black
soliders weren't allowed into Waikiki clubs- - - and believe me, THAT
doesn't happen any more!!! At a hearing, the mgr of a bar in the Hyatt
admitted that it was policy.
I think the alcohol and firearms officials had something to say about
bars and their clientelle.
I liked the ending of Monte. He isn't a pathetic old guy with no job
and a bottle. He is still working, and he will still keep working, and
maybe he too will do a Thelma and Louise - - - it wouldn't be a bad way
to go . . .
What struck me was the beauty of the land. I thought that the
midwestern plains in Canada would look like ours - -- but with all the
green, maybe they shot it in the spring.
Come to think of it, I haven't seen a western with a recreational bar
fight in it for years and years and years . . .Jimmy Stewart and Stewart
Granger were good at it. . .
Back to Rossellini. Please imagine what an over-50 whore would REALLY
have looked like in that place and time. . . .
It will be fun to checkthe ratings.
I had a pleasant evening watching the movie. I hope everyone else did.
Bev in Kaka`ako
Beverly Kai
There is always a two week period where it is overcast all the time and
too chilly to get in the water. It is always in Feb or March. I always
feel badly for people who come here for the trip of a lifetime, and
watch it rain. You can spend time in museums just so long.
This is an El Nino year, too, so we don't know what will happen. We are
having shear lines blowing thru, and winds, - -and I suppose that I
could wear long pants comfortably, but I am still able to go in shorts
and a tee . . .
it is going way down below seventy at night. Never travel anywhere
without a sweater. At the worst, it is your pillow in an airline
terminal . . . .
Bev in Kaka`ako
Jake Mabe
be a thoroughly entertaining, poignant, and well done film. I've been saying
for years that TV needs a good Western, and it looks like the occasional Tom
Selleck western films on TNT are going to be the best there is.
Selleck, as always, was in excellent form and I enjoyed the supporting cast,
especially Keith Carradine, William Devane, and Isabella Rossellini.
I also enjoyed the film's leisurely pace. It in my mind effectively portrayed
the life of a cowboy and also allowed the story to quietly take its time
getting told. In an era when we are bombarded with throwaway plots and
pyrotechnics, it was quite refreshing.
I also enjoyed the "end of a way of life" theme of the film. Most important to
me was how Walsh stayed true to who he was and what he believed in, even though
his entire world was disappearing in front of him.
A fine effort and my hat is off to Tom Selleck, Wincer and TNT for a great film
and something that is sadly rare these days: a good western.
Regards,
Jake
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Richard V.
Thanks Bev,
I'll do some more research about the weather. As we would be coming
from Minnesota (not to far from Magnum's sales pitch, "Imagine you're
in White Bear Lake Minnesota, and it's 0 deg. outside...") I think we
would enjoy even somewhat poor Hawaiian weather. THe El Nino is
giving us a mild winter thus far, but my life has been full of Maine
and Minnesota cold... I do think it's time to thaw?!
Hope to hear from you again.
Richard V.
Roland Mans
and concluded that this uncompromising man of principles was a character to
emulate for all of us. Once again... a damn good cowboy movie.
Rolie
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Jake Mabe
>emulate for all of us
Rolie,
I couldn't agree more.
Meribor
knew that the 'end of an era' thing wasn't going to have a happy ending.
Much more powerful to have Martine die before Monte could get there, and
watch him agonize over it, than have them do happily ever after.
So TS doesn't look like he did 20 years ago. Do any of us? I sure don't.
Maybe the weight was part of the role. I have no doubt that if he took a
role that required a buff body, his would be buff, fast. Besides, I still
thought he looked pretty good without that shirt. ;-)
It made me laugh. It made me cry. It made me think. I loved it.
"My, oh my!"
Kurt Pickering
> As for Tom's aging…big deal. People age. It doesn't matter what age
> you are. The point of life is this comment from Jack London:
>
> I would rather be ashes than dust!
> I would rather that my spark should burn out
> in a brilliant blaze than it should be stifled by dry-rot.
> I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom
> of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet.
> The function of man is to live, not to exist.
> I shall not waste my days trying to prolong them.
> I shall use my time.
>
>
> I have posted this axiom to this group before. But isn't it truthful?
>
Having said that, please don't assume that's a negative response.
First of all, I agree wholeheartedly with this EXCELLENT piece,
prevoiusly unknown to me, which flatly DISproves the idea that the
meaning of life is an unknown we must seek: Jack found and stated it.
Second, 40 wasn't all that young in 1916, when London died. Third,
Jack London packed one hell of a lot of high-quality high life into
those 40 years. (I kind of suspect James Cameron borrowed a bit of
that Jack for his Jack - Jack Dawson in Titanic.)
Kurt Pickering
> >emulate for all of us
>
> Rolie,
>
> I couldn't agree more.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jake
Rollie and Jake,
I couldn't agree more ... in theory. However, our world doesn't
really want to do that, does it?
There are two great lines in the movie Dr. Zhivago that both explain
and condemn that society. I find they apply perfectly well to ours,
too - even 30-odd years after the movie was made.
1) Victor Komarovsky, upon meeting Lara's intended, the "high-minded"
idealist Pasha: "He is the kind of man the world pretends to look up
to and in fact despises."
2) Zhivago, to a Soviet party official who has done something Zhivago
believes he had no right to do and who then justifies the deed with
his lofty position: "That gives you the power, not the right."
If our world respected "an uncompromising man of principles" we
wouldn't need courts and lawyers. Furthermore, if courts were the
haven from such attitudes they should be, they wouldn't be a
laughingstock.
Just a couple of random King Day thoughts.
-Dave
>Thanks Bev,
>I'll do some more research about the weather. As we would be coming
>from Minnesota (not to far from Magnum's sales pitch, "Imagine you're
>in White Bear Lake Minnesota, and it's 0 deg. outside...") I think we
>would enjoy even somewhat poor Hawaiian weather. THe El Nino is
>giving us a mild winter thus far, but my life has been full of Maine
>and Minnesota cold... I do think it's time to thaw?!
>Hope to hear from you again.
>Richard V.
Hi Ya Richard,
Being from the Frozen Tundra myself - just up the road from you, (of
course, this is a weird year with no snow) any weather in Hawaii is
welcome. Usually shorts and Aloha/t-shirt weather. However, Bev is
right, if you do decide to go, you want to take light jacket as the
evenings this time of year can get a little chilly. Sort of like MN in
early June.
As for swimming, if you have ever jumped into Lake Roosevelt up by
Outing in August, any time of year to hop into the Pacific around the
islands feels like a Jacuzzi.
Personally, I like Hawaii in the fall. Sept, Oct, Nov are perfect
times to be there. The summer humidity has left and both the days and
nights are warm-- sunny days, clear nights.
-Dave
Jake Mabe
>wouldn't need courts and lawyers. Furthermore, if courts were the
>haven from such attitudes they should be, they wouldn't be a
>laughingstock.
I understand your point. And I like the quotes you mention from "Zhivago,"
another of my favorites.
Still, I've always respected an individual who stands up for what they believe
in, regardless of whether I agree with their positions or not. I don't think
Rolie or myself were necessarily referring to anarchic behavior.
One of the problems I have with modern society and many of our modern day
politicians is how spineless many of them seem and how few of them actually
stand up for anything. Sadly, a lot of people are willing to turn their backs
on what they believe in for a buck.
The most attractive aspect of "Monte Walsh" to me was how the character stayed
true to who he was. That's pretty darn admirable and rare in this day and age.
I think one can do so without necessarily having to be the extreme ideologue
you bring up, Kurt, but you give some food for thought.
Anyhow, it's an enjoyable film. If there's anybody out there who hasn't seen it
yet, I'd strongly recommend screening it.
All the best,
Kurt Pickering
> in, regardless of whether I agree with their positions or not. I don't think
> Rolie or myself were necessarily referring to anarchic behavior.
>
lack of it. I think idealists are right and HOPE they will be
rewarded in some next-life sort of way. It's a long story that would
come across as too self-serving to belong here; maybe someday I'll
write the Kramer vs. Kramer of the 2000s and send you a promotional
copy.
Short version: My daughter and I will have little or no time together
for at least the next 16 months. I'm satisfied that this result stems
directly from my sticking to my principles and my opponent having
none.
> One of the problems I have with modern society and many of our modern day
> politicians is how spineless many of them seem and how few of them actually
> stand up for anything. Sadly, a lot of people are willing to turn their backs
> on what they believe in for a buck.
>
Again I agree. However, this spinelessness is a direct result of our
society's lack of respect for principle: people vote their benefit,
not principle, and you can't serve your principles if you can't get
elected (or re-elected). So again, I believe you and Rolie (and I)
are right - but unrewarded for same.
I DID watch too much TV when I was a kid - I still think the good guys
win in the end. Rather, I FEEL it - and it shivers me timbers to see
the opposite happen so very often.
Jake Mabe
>win in the end. Rather, I FEEL it - and it shivers me timbers to see
>the opposite happen so very often
Kurt,
Me too. I grew up watching westerns and other such programs/movies, where the
good guys always won and right triumphed in the end. I personally have had
enough of the ambiguity that has come out of Hollywood during the last few
years.
Sorry I misconstrued what you were saying. That's the bad part about internet
discussions; sometimes it's hard to tell exactly where somebody is coming from.
And sorry to hear about your situation. Perhaps in time things will turn out
OK.
>However, this spinelessness is a direct result of our
>society's lack of respect for principle: people vote their benefit,
>not principle,
I couldn't agree more. It's sad, really.
I guess I've just got an old fashioned sense of right and wrong. Some people
call me naive or say I look at life sometimes through rose colored glasses.
Maybe so. I just always grew up believing if you try to do the right thing and
stand up for what you believe in, things will work out in the end, even if you
stumble or if things seem bleak for awhile.
Three cheers for the message behind "Monte Walsh." Maybe somebody in society
will take notice.
RonnyClams
REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE REST OF YOU SHEEP SAY, I STAND BY MY ORIGINAL
TAKE.
HAVING YOUR OWN IDEAS, BELIEFS, AND OPINIONS IS WHAT I TRULY LIKED
ABOUT THE MAGNUM CHARACTER. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK WE WERE ALL DRAWN
TO THE SHOW FOR THE SAME IDEALS. ITS SUCH A SHAME TO SEE HOW THE
MAJORITY IN THIS GROUP JUST SEEM TO BE TOM SELLECK GROUPIES AND RAVE
ABOUT EVERYTHING HE DOES.
I MUST ADMIT THAT AFTER SEEING THE MOVIE ANOTHER TIME I DID PICK UP
ON SEVERAL GOOD ATTRIBUTES. BUT, AS FAR AS MAGNUM PI BEING DONE AS A
MOVIE I DONT SEE THAT HAPPENNING. NOT WITH TOM SELLECK AT LEAST.
HE HAS PUT ON TOO MUCH WEIGHT TO MAKE IT WORK, AND DONT GET ON HERE
AND TRY TO BULLSH*T ME ABOUT A HOLLYWOOD TRAINER WOULD TAKE IT OFF IN
A FEW MONTHS. HE IS ALMOST SIXTY YEARS OLD. IT DOESNT WORK THAT EASY.
YOUR MUSCLES LOSE THEIR ELASTICITY AS YOU GET OLDER, THEY START TO
ATROPHY. HE PLAYED A RUGGED COWBOY IN MONTE WALSH. COWBOYS DO NOTHING
ELSE BUT PHYSICAL WORK ALL DAY LONG. A COWBOY IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK
MORE FIT. DOESNT ANYONE REMEMBER WATCHING BONANZA AND SAYING THAT
HOSS DIDN'T FIT THE ROLE OF A MIDWESTERN COWBOY?????
JUST A FEW POINTS FROM THE ONLY HONEST POSTER HERE.
RONNYCLAMS IN NY
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ANIM8Rfsk
<< OK I SEE I AM GETTING ROYALLY RIPPED HERE FOR MY OPINION.
REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE REST OF YOU SHEEP SAY, I STAND BY MY ORIGINAL
TAKE. >>
Um, you do realized that ALL CAPS is considered shouting, and rude?
Basically I didn't bother to read the rest of your message.
Beverly Kai
If you come to hawaii, you may as well come when it is gorgeous.
Our weather for the past week or so has been "all of the above" - -with
real rain, as opposed to mist - - -- and then an hour later you have to
put on sunscreen.
The lousy weather I wrote of - -the two-week "winter" is completely
overcast, and you need a jacket - - esp if you go over the pali (a
thousand feet up in constant mist and rain)
checking the weather, - - going by temps isn't giving a good pix. It can
be 80, pouring, gusty, and miiserable. I note lately that the weather
tv segments are using the 'heat index" here- - - something like the wind
chill factor. It takes account of humidity and wind speed.
I spent three years in Duluth, and 18 months before that in Kirkland
Lake Ontario (same latitude as Duluth) - -and know what you mean by ANY
kind of relief.
That is why i am saying to come when it is best. Don't settle just
because it is better than MN. You pay for Paradise, you should GET
paradise.
I note that during cloudy periods here that I sometimes wish I had on a
long-sleeved shirt or jacket. But I don't suffer without it.
In winter, bring bandana handkerchiefs. The cold air conditioning on
the bus pours down on your neck and it can get pretty bad. I always
carry bandanas to protect my head and neck this way. And i mean it gets
BAD.
Even if it is winter, they still have to use the AC because of body heat
and humidity. This sometimes makes the bus too cold.
Never travel without a sweater and bandanas (at worst, you have clean
bandages.)
Enjoy!!
Bev in Kaka`ako
Beverly Kai
Admiring people with spines.
There were those who admired Byron de la Beckwith, and protected him for
30 years.
Senior moment: Can't recall the name - -but the outright segregationist
governor of Alabama who stood in the schoolhouse door as he said he
would, to fulfill his campagn promise. No 'n - - -s' would EVER enter
U. of Alabama (they did.)
When he later ran for president, he got so many votes that the two main
parties feared he would throw the election into the electoral college.
He got those votes because he showed more backbone than either
main-party candidate. Of course that backbone supported segregation,
but that didn't seem to matter.
It took decades of suffereing after a paralysing gunshot, for him to
know what it was like to be a member of humanity. He apologised for his
principled stand.
His name comes to me now, but I don't need to write it. You all know who
I mean. His backbone was THAT well known- - no name needed. One of the
great historial a- - - h - -es .
When someone talks about backbone, I want to see the tongue that is
attached to it, and what it says.
Now that my sermon is finished, how about that Kelsey Grammar as
Washington???????? :-)
Beverly Kai
he said he wanted to produce more tv shows like 'Leave it to Beaver,'
for family fare.
He was just about hooted down, because it was the Seventies, and
EVERYONE was cynical. Beaver was ridiculed, and so was Father Knows
Best, and to call someone a Donna Reed was an insult.
But if you look at Turner's productions over the years (even with Jane's
input) --there hasn't been much pure trash among them. The classic
western is a morality play. He and TS - - -and Clint, too, know how to
do it right.
I remember when NYPD Blue first came on - - -and how it disapointed me
deeply when Amy Brennamen's character was bought and paid for by the bad
guys. - -and the series lead - -- (again, senior moment) the redhead
now on CSI Miami - --his character helped her cover it up.
Justice finally fell out, but we got good views of Dennis Franz's butt
in the meantime.
'Parental Discretion" - - - an invitation to the kiddies.
When Monte Walsh came face to face with the auto - - - -- he gracefully
gave way . . . and did it in public. That must hurt.
Back in those days, people knew what cancer was. And a lot of people
rode horses off cliffs. Life might have been simpler. But short.
Didn't James Garner have a series where he rode an early motorcycle as
town sherriff???
Bev in Kaka`ako
Beverly Kai
have a fit body.
I have eleven inch biceps. Twenty - nine inch waist. Hardly break a
sweat on the exercycle after 20 minutes. . .
No cellulite on my upper legs.
I work out. Didn't start to run until I was almost 45. didn't buy
dumbells until about 8 years ago . .. and I have been officially
disabled with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for almost 20 years. ..
The exercise takes away the pain of that condition. I didn't have much
choice.
Age doesn't have anything to do with a pot belly - -and a muscle that
is used is elastic.
I was born in 1936 - -and play with my ten-pound dumbells in my
recliner.
Gonna learn to surf next june. I should have the upper body strength to
paddle out to the break by then. . . .
Climbed Ayers' rock at 54. Got scuba certified at 50. Took Karate at
48.
It isn't the muscle that loses elasticity and sags (esp on the torso) .
It is the collagen layer of connective tissue beneath the skin.
'Anti-wrinkle' cosetic products are reversing this on women's faces.
I am currently seeing if it will do the same on my stomach, ribs, and
butt.
Use it or lose it, children. Prove the ageists wrong. My butt is up
where it was in high school thanks to regular workouts.
Bev in Kaka`ako
Michael Martin
I take exception to your claim that you are the only honest poster on this
newsgroup. As a matter of fact a I take BIG EXCEPTION TO THAT!
BTW I thought the movie was great. This script was much more cerebral than
the standard Western fare we are accustomed to viewing. If I were a teenager
watching Monte Walsh I probably would have been bored by what I would have
thought to be a lack of action. This was not an action western but a story
of "life on the range" and how it, and all facets of life for that matter,
change.
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Remember that this is the place where people come to talk about all things Magnum and presumably Tom Selleck.
We don't always agree on how things look. Sometimes it seems like we are all agreeing on something. Sometimes we
do. But we all respect each other's perfect right to express our own opinions. You are welcome to do that too.
In fact, I am interested in different points of view. The world would be such a boring place if everyone treated
life the same way.
There are some heated discussions. Recently two people both killfiled each other. They are two of my favorite
people on this newsgroup. That's a shame. It happens. If you get into a heated discussion, depending on the
heat, that makes things a little more exciting at times.
Please don't put us *all* down for thinking Monte Walsh was a good movie. When people get defensive, we call
them trolls on this group. Everyone tries to get along here in a respectful way. It isn't always perfect, but we
try.
I hope you will keep posting here with your different point of view. Please try not to take it so personally.
There are times when my point of view sticks out like a sore thumb. But I still express it just the same. We are
all welcome here.
I now get down off my soap box.
Carolyn
On 21 Jan 2003 09:03:01 -0800, ronniemo...@aol.com (RonnyClams) wrote:
> OK I SEE I AM GETTING ROYALLY RIPPED HERE FOR MY OPINION.
> REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE REST OF YOU SHEEP SAY, I STAND BY MY ORIGINAL
> TAKE.
>
>
> HAVING YOUR OWN IDEAS, BELIEFS, AND OPINIONS IS WHAT I TRULY LIKED
> ABOUT THE MAGNUM CHARACTER. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK WE WERE ALL DRAWN
> TO THE SHOW FOR THE SAME IDEALS. ITS SUCH A SHAME TO SEE HOW THE
> MAJORITY IN THIS GROUP JUST SEEM TO BE TOM SELLECK GROUPIES AND RAVE
> ABOUT EVERYTHING HE DOES.
>
> I MUST ADMIT THAT AFTER SEEING THE MOVIE ANOTHER TIME I DID PICK UP
> ON SEVERAL GOOD ATTRIBUTES. BUT, AS FAR AS MAGNUM PI BEING DONE AS A
> MOVIE I DONT SEE THAT HAPPENNING. NOT WITH TOM SELLECK AT LEAST.
> HE HAS PUT ON TOO MUCH WEIGHT TO MAKE IT WORK, AND DONT GET ON HERE
> AND TRY TO BULLSH*T ME ABOUT A HOLLYWOOD TRAINER WOULD TAKE IT OFF IN
> A FEW MONTHS. HE IS ALMOST SIXTY YEARS OLD. IT DOESNT WORK THAT EASY.
> YOUR MUSCLES LOSE THEIR ELASTICITY AS YOU GET OLDER, THEY START TO
> ATROPHY. HE PLAYED A RUGGED COWBOY IN MONTE WALSH. COWBOYS DO NOTHING
> ELSE BUT PHYSICAL WORK ALL DAY LONG. A COWBOY IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK
> MORE FIT. DOESNT ANYONE REMEMBER WATCHING BONANZA AND SAYING THAT
> HOSS DIDN'T FIT THE ROLE OF A MIDWESTERN COWBOY?????
>
> JUST A FEW POINTS FROM THE ONLY HONEST POSTER HERE.
>
> RONNYCLAMS IN NY
>
>
>
>
> ronniemo...@aol.com (RonnyClams) wrote in message news:<dd346089.0301180747.13e43ef4
Kurt Pickering
> Didn't James Garner have a series where he rode an early motorcycle as
> town sherriff???
>
> Bev in Kaka`ako
I think that was his big-screen movie, "Support Your Local Sheriff."
MIGHT've been his first project after TV's "Maverick," not sure.
Excellent recollection for one with alleged senior moments, though!!
(-:
Kurt Pickering
>
> RONNYCLAMS IN NY
>
at the A&E board. Intentionally or not, you've just insulted everyone
here. I liked the movie; doesn't make me dishonest or a Selleck
groupie. Means I liked the movie. Period.
And Bev's right about exercise, too.
>
ANIM8Rfsk
<< > Didn't James Garner have a series where he rode an early motorcycle as
> town sherriff???
>
> Bev in Kaka`ako
I think that was his big-screen movie, "Support Your Local Sheriff." >>
Nope. She's talking about the TV series Nichols. He played a rather cowardly
turn of the century sheriff. The last ep had him killed and avenged by his
somewhat tougher twin brother.
Kurt Pickering
> turn of the century sheriff. The last ep had him killed and avenged by his
> somewhat tougher twin brother.
Wow.
It startles me to say I never heard of it!!
ANIM8Rfsk
Wow.
Not many have. I believe the town was named after his family, and the last
episode had him riding the cycle off past the sign reading 'You are now leaving
Nichols' hee hee
Kurt Pickering
>
> It startles me to say I never heard of it!! >>
>
> Not many have. I believe the town was named after his family, and the last
> episode had him riding the cycle off past the sign reading 'You are now leaving
> Nichols' hee hee
Confused. Thought he was dead.
ANIM8Rfsk
<< > Not many have. I believe the town was named after his family, and the
last
> episode had him riding the cycle off past the sign reading 'You are now
leaving
> Nichols' hee hee
Confused. Thought he was dead. >>
Series star was dead, tough twin brother came in for that ep to avenge his
dead. If they'd picked it up, presumably the series would have followed the
brother.
Beverly Kai
Maverick movie in TNT's cowboy marathon???
I had no idea it would be THAT good!!! - -and it had the lighthearted,
sardonic humor of the kind we loved in MPI.
Forgive my criticism, but Monte Walsh could have used more of it.
There was that throwaway line, when TS says,
"Montelius,' and immediately slaps his questioner.
'What was that for????"
"To prevent smiling."
Maybe some day Gibson, Garner, and Foster will let us watch the guys try
to get their money back . . ..
Kind of OT -- but I am always amazed when a big tough hunk of a movie
hero turns out to be an artist inside.
Clint Eastwood, Gibson, Redford, and TS, too. They started out as kids
who wanted to act. They have spent their fair amount of time on
horeseback, and fighting the bad guys - - -and then they turn around and
produce and direct award-winning films in their maturity.
Films like "Play Misty for Me," Clin'ts first.
and Redford's first, "Ordinary People.' - -and now Mel Gibson is
producing a life of Christ in the original languages (Latin and Arameic)
with subtitles.
TS produces- - and has shown a pretty wide range. He hasn't done
'Hamlet', like Gibson did - - -but he knows how to get to the heart of a
simple story - -and make us care. And he can romance Courtney Cox so
we don't see an old guy chasing his youth. . .
Oh, well, Piccasso was a hellova guy, too, and he was cruel, to boot.
Bev in Kaka`ako
ANIM8Rfsk
<< As long as we are discussing Westerns, did anyone else catch the
Maverick movie in TNT's cowboy marathon???
I had no idea it would be THAT good!!! - -and it had the lighthearted,
sardonic humor of the kind we loved in MPI. >>
yeah, I was prepared to hate it, and loved it. The only BIG misfire was not
using the Maverick theme.
LYINCRYIN
I am not familiar with the Monte Walsh story but I enjoyed the movie.
I think I like Last Stand at Saber River the best out of the recent 3.
Crossfire was more romantic, and Monte was more of a period piece. But all were
good.
Who said he has aged badly ? I hope I look half as good when I am 57 & 9/10
years young !
I cant wait for the next TNT movie with Tom !
"You can't have no Idea how little I care."