Cheating...Shame on Paul and Jamie
John Phillips & Kathy Lawrence-Phillips
I am extremely disappointed with the way MAY is obviously going. My husband and I find the cheating
by either Paul or Jamie is completely out of character. Are we supposed to believe the couple that
has weathered many a storm would crumbly so easily?. I may be being a bit nieve but they seemed so
happy and meant for each other. I feel like I have been cheated all these seasons into believing
that they were just your average couple with ups and downs, but a firm basis of love and trust. I
don't want to see either character in bed with someone else! just an opinion...
Bruce Rheins
In <4m3upk$p...@orb.direct.ca> jphi...@direct.ca (John Phillips & Kathy
Lawrence-Phillips) writes:
>
>I am extremely disappointed with the way MAY is obviously going. My
husband and I find the cheating
>by either Paul or Jamie is completely out of character. Are we
supposed to believe the couple that
>has weathered many a storm would crumbly so easily?.
Agree wholeheartedly. My theory is that this is written/produced by
people who are so thoroughly immersed in the
overindulged/overcompensated Hollywood/Manhattan lifestyle (sorry for
all the slashes), that they are projecting all of their insincere,
immediate-gratification neuroses on their show; Paul and Jamie are
supposed to be two upper-middle-class people with normal friends and
influences, not rich, spoiled brats who feel a need to exchange spouses
when a problem arises. The "problem" they've set up here seems pretty
inconsequential to elicit such a drastic response... and there's been
no set-up of growing antagonism/boredom/incompatibility. It's just
like the "problem" of a twentyish Hollywood sitcom writer/producer who
makes 15 or 20 thousand dollars for a half-hour show; I'm so cool, that
if I'm having a spat or am temporarily unstimulated by my significant
other, I can sure get another one who's just as pretty or nurturing or
whatever.
Yeah, I'm mad. So what. It's just because they've slipped into a
cliched Hollywood way of looking at relationships.
Bruce
Mr RD Mcgowan
John Phillips & Kathy Lawrence-Phillips (jphi...@direct.ca) wrote:
: I am extremely disappointed with the way MAY is obviously going. My husband and I find the cheating
: by either Paul or Jamie is completely out of character. Are we supposed to believe the couple that
: happy and meant for each other. I feel like I have been cheated all these seasons into believing
: that they were just your average couple with ups and downs, but a firm basis of love and trust. I
: don't want to see either character in bed with someone else! just an opinion...
Yeah I know cheating might happen alot in the real world, but I dont need
to see it on tv. I think if there is an affair i will probably stop watching
the show.
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Wifov
In article <4m6l99$s...@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au>,
ry...@mdw056.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr RD Mcgowan) writes:
>Yeah I know cheating might happen alot in the real world, but I dont need
>to see it on tv. I think if there is an affair i will probably stop
watching
>the show.
Yes, the question hanging over us all summer, might be will they forgive
each other, but the question should be, if they make this mistake will we
forgive them?
Becky
Charles Blair
I don't like the direction the show is headed, either. However, it HAS
increased the traffic on this group.
Maybe we should have seen this coming with the episode in which the
Buchmans meet another couple who turn out to be cheating on their spouses,
living in another couple's apartment, etc.
The weird thing is that so far, all that's happened is a little bar-
room flirtation, but the vibes are incredibly ominous.
Somebody else posted that NBC, Paul Reiser, Helen Hunt, or some combination
of the above wants to end the series. If they have to do that, I would
think it would make a lot more sense to go out on a high note with Jamie
finally getting pregnant, and everybody getting ready to move to the suburbs
as the last episode.
Gregory J Cebelinski
In a previous article, ceb...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair) says:
[snip for brevity]
>
> Somebody else posted that NBC, Paul Reiser, Helen Hunt, or some combination
>of the above wants to end the series. If they have to do that, I would
>think it would make a lot more sense to go out on a high note with Jamie
>finally getting pregnant, and everybody getting ready to move to the suburbs
>as the last episode.
I would hope that the show would end on a high note. Some other thread
mentioned that the show should move back to Thursday. If that is what it
takes to keep everyone on the same page move back! I hope the rumors are
not because of inflated egos. It is better to be a big fish in a small
pond then a small fish in a big pond. Helen/Paul nobody wants to see a
spinoff of Divorce Court so stay together!
P.S.
Why does Lisa get a show? Give one to cousin Ira!
Ramaswamy
Charles Blair wrote:
>
> I don't like the direction the show is headed, either. However, it HAS
> increased the traffic on this group.
Now, now, that's no reason to change the direction of the show! :-)
> Maybe we should have seen this coming with the episode in which the
> Buchmans meet another couple who turn out to be cheating on their spouses,
> living in another couple's apartment, etc.
The description of that show ("The Couple") has been suitably amended in protest
in the episode guide.
> Somebody else posted that NBC, Paul Reiser, Helen Hunt, or some combination
> of the above wants to end the series. If they have to do that, I would
> think it would make a lot more sense to go out on a high note with Jamie
> finally getting pregnant, and everybody getting ready to move to the suburbs
> as the last episode.
If you are talking about that overseas (Singapore?) poster, I wondered if that
was a troll, and ignored it. What I was told 6 weeks ago is that NBC actually
wants to extend the show to a 6th, 7th year. But such information, whatever its
merit, is subject to interpretation. Personally, I don't like the idea of an
extension ad-nauseum; like you (and Tom) I'd like to fold the tents and leave
town on a good note.
Cheers,
Ramaswamy
Aram Yellin
On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, John Phillips & Kathy Lawrence-Phillips wrote:
> I am extremely disappointed with the way MAY is obviously going. My husband and I find the cheating
> by either Paul or Jamie is completely out of character. Are we supposed to believe the couple that
> has weathered many a storm would crumbly so easily?. I may be being a bit nieve but they seemed so
> happy and meant for each other. I feel like I have been cheated all these seasons into believing
> that they were just your average couple with ups and downs, but a firm basis of love and trust. I
> don't want to see either character in bed with someone else! just an opinion...
>
>
I think showing Jamie and Paul havng an affair and cheating
makes these characters more real. Not every couple is pure and makes it
to through there whol life without straying. In fact these days it's
typical for a couple to divorce or cheat. The Buchmans are supposed to
be a typical couple. Not some couple sheltered from the real world.
Marc
Mazhak
Wait a bleeding minute, mate.
I happen to have the good fortune of knowing a large number of Real
couples who have been together from 1 year, me and my fiancee, all the
way to the champion record holders in my neck of the woods, who have
enjoyed 51 years of ups and downs with out commiting so heinous a breach
of trust and loyalty as adultry.
I know you might say that we don't live in the real world, but we do.
Me fiancee and I had known each other an embarassingly short time before
we decided to move in together. And neither of us is the sleep around
type, But when you both know that it is right, time is irrelevant.
With Paul and Jamie, we've seen that they're right. Just because adultry
seems to be more common doesn't mean it is. I think it is just that
people are a lot less informal and private than they used to be. And
calling adultry be cute euphimisms doesn't help.
Please forgive the sermon, I guess I feel more strongly about this
subject than most. Good Luck to you.
Heather Susanne Matus
I agree!!! My fiance and I also find this *really* out of character and
disturbing. You're not being niave! After everything they've been through
already, just seriously considering being in bed with anyone else should make
them ill.
Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but when you have love like this...it just doesn't
fall a part this quickly or easily!
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Philip Chien
In article <4m3upk$p...@orb.direct.ca> John Phillips & Kathy
Lawrence-Phillips, jphi...@direct.ca writes:
>I am extremely disappointed with the way MAY is obviously going. My
husband
>and I find the cheating by either Paul or Jamie is completely out of
character.
Considering that Jamie had an affair just before she moved in with Paul I
find it hard to believe that you could consider this to be something
which she couldn't do.
>Are we supposed to believe the couple that
>has weathered many a storm would crumbly so easily?
Well, considering that it's a relatively short-term mariage I would
hardly say that they've weathered that many storms. They've had
differences, arguments, and certainly been tempted by others - in short a
pretty realistic situation.
>I may be being a bit nieve but they seemed so happy and meant for each
other.
Yeah, I suppose you are being naive. And I will certainly agree that
Paul and Jamie do look like a perfect storybook TV couple, just like Ira
and what's-her-face did last season.
>I feel like I have been cheated all these seasons into believing
>that they were just your average couple with ups and downs, but a firm
basis of
>love and trust.
Which I still believe, but don't see the current storyline to be
contradicting. They're both under a lot of pressure, and under pressure
people (real and characters) do things which they normally would not do.
> I don't want to see either character in bed with someone else! just an
opinion...
and of course, this is just my opinion ...
Philip Chien, Earth News - space writer and consultant PCH...@IDS.NET
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Aram Yellin
On Fri, 3 May 1996, Heather Susanne Matus wrote:
> I agree!!! My fiance and I also find this *really* out of character and
> disturbing. You're not being niave! After everything they've been through
> already, just seriously considering being in bed with anyone else should make
> them ill.
>
> Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but when you have love like this...it just doesn't
> fall a part this quickly or easily!
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You know you have to understand your talking about a TV show. Things
happen a lot faster then in real life. They have to get through problems
in 30 minutes or less. Also your acting as if it's all over! It just
happened! Don't be so quick to assume everything is over! I hate to say
it but you people are CRAZY!! By the way your life isn't a TV show is
it?
Andrew
In article <4m3upk$p...@orb.direct.ca>, jphi...@direct.ca says...
>
>I am extremely disappointed with the way MAY is obviously going. My
husband and I find the cheating
>that they were just your average couple with ups and downs, but a firm
>don't want to see either character in bed with someone else! just an
opinion...
>
>
think that they'll separate at the end of the season and get back
together next season and have a baby.
.
Margaret Spindle Williams
Heather Susanne Matus (hm13...@oak.cats.ohiou.edu) wrote:
: I agree!!! My fiance and I also find this *really* out of character and
: disturbing. You're not being niave! After everything they've been through
: already, just seriously considering being in bed with anyone else should make
: them ill.
:
: Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but when you have love like this...it just doesn't
: fall a part this quickly or easily!
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off for a while, there in sitcom land, arguing about the babby thing,
distancing themselves into their jobs, blah, blah , blah. It all makes
sense to me.