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Veronica Mars, Battlestar Galatica, Lost, 24, Deadwood, Rescue Me Among AFI's Best Of 2005

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Mr. Mottola(I'll Miss You Eddie Guerrero. VIVA LA RAZA!)

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Dec 12, 2005, 5:23:35 PM12/12/05
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VERONICA, GALACTICA, LOST, 24, DEADWOOD, RESCUE ME Among AFI's 10 Best of
2005!!
I am - Hercules!!
No sitcoms!!
A swell list, though I would have definitely swapped "Gilmore Girls" for
"Sleeper Cell."
For those wondering, "Sometimes in April" is a TV-movie that HBO ran last
March.
Look! A press release!
AFI AWARDS 2005 Official Selections Announced
Sixth Annual AFI Almanac Names 10 Most Outstanding
Motion Pictures and TV Programs of the Year

LOS ANGELES, Dec. 11 /PRNewswire/ -- The American Film Institute (AFI) today
announced the official selections of AFI AWARDS 2005, AFI's almanac which
records the year's most outstanding achievements in film and television, as
well as significant moments in the world of the moving image.

AFI AWARDS is the only form of national recognition that honors the film and
television creative ensemble as a whole-those people in front of and behind
the camera-acknowledging the collaborative nature of film and television.

Unlike any other film or television award currently given, the AFI AWARDS
2005 selections were made through AFI's unique 13-person jury process in
which scholars, artists, critics and AFI trustees discuss, debate and
determine the most outstanding achievements of the year, as well as provide
a detailed rationale for each selection. Two AFI juries-one for motion
pictures and one for television-convened in Los Angeles for two days of
deliberation. The jurors have remained confidential until today. (Complete
list is below.)

AFI will honor the creative ensembles for each of the honorees at a luncheon
on Friday, January 13, 2006, at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles,
California. The jury rationales for each selection will be revealed at this
event.

"AFI is proud to honor these 20 collaborative teams. As the institute
recognizes and celebrates excellence across the century, these honorees will
be part of the record that documents America's enduring cultural legacy,"
commented Jean Picker Firstenberg, AFI's Director and CEO.

The honorees are listed below in alphabetical order:

AFI MOVIES OF THE YEAR -- OFFICIAL SELECTIONS

BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN
CAPOTE
CRASH
THE 40 YEAR-OLD VIRGIN
GOOD NIGHT, AND GOOD LUCK.
A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE
KING KONG
MUNICH
THE SQUID AND THE WHALE
SYRIANA

AFI TV PROGRAMS OF THE YEAR -- OFFICIAL SELECTIONS
24
BATTLESTAR GALACTICA
DEADWOOD
GREY'S ANATOMY
HOUSE
LOST
RESCUE ME
SLEEPER CELL
SOMETIMES IN APRIL
VERONICA MARS

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"I'm feeling froggy!"-Eddie Guerrero


Torrey M. Spears

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Dec 12, 2005, 6:12:11 PM12/12/05
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Hmph. Interesting that all of those smart folks at the AFI forgot how
to spell "Arrested Development".


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Peck

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Dec 12, 2005, 6:16:32 PM12/12/05
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Complete lack of any sitcoms, actually...impossible to ignore.

And Grey's Anatomy is crap.

-Peck

TheNewsGuy(Mike)

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Dec 12, 2005, 6:21:48 PM12/12/05
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Torrey M. Spears wrote:
> Hmph. Interesting that all of those smart folks at the AFI forgot how
> to spell "Arrested Development".

Well, it was great in the first year but then the network execs made the
producers "dumb it down" and it became just, silly. Too bad; the
concept was very good.

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"Peck" <Peckt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Complete lack of any sitcoms, actually...impossible to ignore.

There aren't many great sitcoms on TV right now.
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Kevin

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Dec 12, 2005, 6:53:41 PM12/12/05
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How can movies that were only released this past week be on the list? And
how can such pieces of cinematic crap like Munich and Syriana possibly be
selected? The only decent movies on that list are Capote and Good Night and
Good Luck. King Kong will probably make about $400 million, at least, but
may not be in the same league as Gone With The Wind or Lawrence of Arabia as
far as acting is concerned.

We won't even discuss the picks for the television category. The only show
worth mentioning is Battlestar Galactica. These lists always give me pause.

"Mr. Mottola(I'll Miss You Eddie Guerrero. VIVA LA RAZA!)"
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Ryan P.

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Dec 12, 2005, 7:19:20 PM12/12/05
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Smart Ape - The Ninth Wonder of the World (nChyna) wrote:
> "Peck" <Peckt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1134429392.7...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Complete lack of any sitcoms, actually...impossible to ignore.
>
>
> There aren't many great sitcoms on TV right now.

The best one out there IMO is "The War At Home."

Margaret Phillips

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"Torrey M. Spears" <nwoph...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hmph. Interesting that all of those smart folks at the AFI forgot how
> to spell "Arrested Development".

Arrested Development was one of the 10 television honorees in both 2003 and
2004.


Mr. Mottola(I'll Miss You Eddie Guerrero. VIVA LA RAZA!)

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"Ryan P." <rpa...@delete.this.part.wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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No. The War At Home is mean, racist, and Michael Rapaport is not funny. The
only reason this show gets ratings is because the daughter is super hot.
The War At Home sucks.


~昢昏觟坍

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Dec 12, 2005, 8:07:50 PM12/12/05
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Hear that sound ? Thats any credibility you had shooting away

TheNewsGuy(Mike)

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Dec 12, 2005, 11:09:58 PM12/12/05
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Smart Ape - The Ninth Wonder of the World (nChyna) wrote:
> ...

> There aren't many great sitcoms on TV right now.

May 14, 1998! That was the end my friend. ;-)

Peck

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Dec 12, 2005, 11:27:59 PM12/12/05
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for you to poop on?

Mark Anderson

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Dec 13, 2005, 1:39:50 AM12/13/05
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In article rpa...@delete.this.part.wi.rr.com says...

> The best one out there IMO is "The War At Home."

Is this a joke?

Fox putting a show like this that so insults your intelligence between
the Simpsons and Family Guy forced me to figure out how the use the VCR.


Brandon Hex

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Dec 13, 2005, 5:21:29 AM12/13/05
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"Mr. Mottola(I'll Miss You Eddie Guerrero. VIVA LA RAZA!)"
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> VERONICA, GALACTICA, LOST, 24, DEADWOOD, RESCUE ME Among AFI's 10 Best of


If you don't watch these shows... yer a horses ass and nobody but nobody
would say otherwise other than a dumb ass like you for not watching these
shows!


Ken from Chicago

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Dec 13, 2005, 6:30:28 AM12/13/05
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"Peck" <Peckt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Complete lack of any sitcoms, actually...impossible to ignore.
>
> And Grey's Anatomy is crap.
>
> -Peck
>

SCRUBS was robbed! Trade SLEEPER CELL for SCRUBS.

-- Ken from Chicago


John A. Bailo

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Dec 13, 2005, 11:39:28 AM12/13/05
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Mr. Mottola(I'll Miss You Eddie Guerrero. VIVA LA RAZA!) wrote:

> VERONICA MARS

I'm glad this show is finally getting recognition.

I started following it last season using bittorrent and kept up today
this year.

It's one of the best written, and most fascinating plots on tv.

Ryan P.

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Dec 13, 2005, 5:20:53 PM12/13/05
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Mr. Mottola(I'll Miss You Eddie Guerrero. VIVA LA RAZA!) wrote:


Its not racist... its making fun of a racist/judgmental guy. Jus
tlike "All In the Family."

Ryan P.

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Dec 13, 2005, 5:22:17 PM12/13/05
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~昢昏觟坍 wrote:

Oh, and Desperate Housewives is actually funny? Or Grey's Anatomy?
Please.

And to say "The best one out there is..." does NOT mean "The best show
EVER is..."

Ryan P.

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Dec 13, 2005, 5:26:22 PM12/13/05
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Mark Anderson wrote:

So does that mean you believe that the Simpsons and Family Guy are
highly intellectual pieces of programming?

Fox has three shows in a row (Simpsons, War At Home, and Family Guy)
where the father figure is conservative and prejudiced, and in each on,
that same father figure is portrayed as a moron.

What's different between the three?

reld...@usa.net

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Dec 13, 2005, 11:32:20 PM12/13/05
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John A. Bailo wote:

--I agree, and I'm very glad Veronica Mars is getting recognition from
AFI. Besides Veronica Mars, the only one from their TV list that I
watch is "Lost," though. I don't understand why some of those shows
are on the list and "Desperate Housewives" isn't. It deserves to be.

I don't expect everybody to share my tastes, but if AFI liked Veronica
Mars then I should think it would stand to reason that there should be
more congruence between AFI and me.

I have no problem with their list of movies (though I haven't seen all
the ones on the list), but "The Ice Harvest" should have been included.
I loved that movie. I also loved "Crash" and "Syriana." Whoever
posted dismissively about "Syriana" needs to explain himself. It was
an excellent movie.

Clairel

Ken from Chicago

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Dec 14, 2005, 6:13:37 AM12/14/05
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<reld...@usa.net> wrote in message
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> John A. Bailo wote:
>> Mr. Mottola(I'll Miss You Eddie Guerrero. VIVA LA RAZA!) wrote:
>>
>> > VERONICA MARS
>>
>> I'm glad this show is finally getting recognition.
>>
>> I started following it last season using bittorrent and kept up today
>> this year.
>>
>> It's one of the best written, and most fascinating plots on tv.
>
> --I agree, and I'm very glad Veronica Mars is getting recognition from
> AFI. Besides Veronica Mars, the only one from their TV list that I
> watch is "Lost," though. I don't understand why some of those shows
> are on the list and "Desperate Housewives" isn't. It deserves to be.

Not this season DH doesn't.

> I don't expect everybody to share my tastes, but if AFI liked Veronica
> Mars then I should think it would stand to reason that there should be
> more congruence between AFI and me.
>
> I have no problem with their list of movies (though I haven't seen all
> the ones on the list), but "The Ice Harvest" should have been included.
> I loved that movie. I also loved "Crash" and "Syriana." Whoever
> posted dismissively about "Syriana" needs to explain himself. It was
> an excellent movie.
>
> Clairel
>

SYRIANA's gotten mixed reviews.

-- Ken from Chicago


reld...@usa.net

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Ken from Chicago wrote:
> <reld...@usa.net> wrote in message
> news:1134534740.6...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > John A. Bailo wote:
> >> Mr. Mottola(I'll Miss You Eddie Guerrero. VIVA LA RAZA!) wrote:
> >>
> >> > VERONICA MARS
> >>
> >> I'm glad this show is finally getting recognition.
> >>
> >> I started following it last season using bittorrent and kept up today
> >> this year.
> >>
> >> It's one of the best written, and most fascinating plots on tv.
> >
> > --I agree, and I'm very glad Veronica Mars is getting recognition from
> > AFI. Besides Veronica Mars, the only one from their TV list that I
> > watch is "Lost," though. I don't understand why some of those shows
> > are on the list and "Desperate Housewives" isn't. It deserves to be.
>
> Not this season DH doesn't.

--Why would you say that? DH is as good as ever this season.

> > I don't expect everybody to share my tastes, but if AFI liked Veronica
> > Mars then I should think it would stand to reason that there should be
> > more congruence between AFI and me.
> >
> > I have no problem with their list of movies (though I haven't seen all
> > the ones on the list), but "The Ice Harvest" should have been included.
> > I loved that movie. I also loved "Crash" and "Syriana." Whoever
> > posted dismissively about "Syriana" needs to explain himself. It was
> > an excellent movie.
> >
> > Clairel
> >
>
> SYRIANA's gotten mixed reviews.

--What could the reviewers possibly complain about re: Syriana?

Clairel

rwgibson13

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Dec 15, 2005, 11:53:20 AM12/15/05
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Read for yourself :-)

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/syriana/

RWG (though I personally wouldn't consider appx 80% positive reviews as
being "mixed")

TheNewsGuy(Mike)

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rwgibson13 wrote:
>...

>>--What could the reviewers possibly complain about re: Syriana?


> Read for yourself :-)
>
> http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/syriana/
>
> RWG (though I personally wouldn't consider appx 80% positive reviews as
> being "mixed")

Just saw the film yesterday - thought it was great.

Here is an example of a RottenTomatoes positive (over 75% were positive)
and a negative. So you judge the difference...

(1) "Mr. Gaghan doesn't insult our intelligence, but he demands our
attention. If you're up to those demands, you'll be rewarded."
-Philip Wuntch, DALLAS MORNING NEWS <and that's from oil country>

(2) "It's hard to get passionately swept away by a movie when you're
struggling continually to figure out who's doing what to whom and why."
-Ruthe Stein, SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE <poor Ruthie, I'll explain to her>

Ken from Chicago

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<reld...@usa.net> wrote in message
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Confusing plot, mixed stance on the issues, not as good as TRAFFIC.

-- Ken from Chicago


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