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Did Jack and Kate really get together at the End?

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Rick

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May 26, 2010, 1:09:38 PM5/26/10
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Someone else posted a 2005 quote from Lindeloff that essentially said he
wanted the show to be about "Will Kate and Jack hook up?"

My question is...did Jack and Kate REALLY hook up at the end? I saw Kate
express her love for Jack and tell him how much she missed him, but didn't
Jack sort of turn away and not respond directly? Later, when they enter the
church, there is hand holding and they do sit together with big smiles, but
Jack really doesn't show the same kind of affection we see between (for
example) Juliet and Sawyer or Penny and Desmond. He seems much more
interested in just appreciating the moment with all his friends together.
Yes, I know he declared his love for Kate when they were actually on the
island, but I don't think he ever does that in the purgatory scenes. He
seems much more emotionally connected to his father than anyone else.

For me, a disappointment in the finale was Jack's failure to more overtly
embrace Kate at the end (both literally and otherwise) as the true love of
his life. Am I just misreading that?

Dano

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May 26, 2010, 2:06:21 PM5/26/10
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Yeah. I really think you are. Besides...Jack and Kate "hooked up" for a
while after the return of the Oceanic 6. You might remember they seemed to
be living together before drifting apart as Jack descended into his despair
at having left the island.


Rick

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May 26, 2010, 3:30:09 PM5/26/10
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"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I do remember Jack and Kate "hooking up" after they got off the island the
first time, and it's also quite clear they declared their love for one
another in their final moments on the island before Kate left for the
airplane. My comments relate just to their actions in the sideways world
when they both realized what was happening. Kate acted excited and in love
with Jack, whereas Jack seemed a but more reserved with her. He never said
he loved her and he never really showed the kind of affection for her that
we saw in other couples. Whether that was Fox's choice as an actor or he
was told to play it that way, I'm not sure - I just expected more excitement
on Jack's part at being with Kate.

Advance Scout

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May 26, 2010, 5:02:06 PM5/26/10
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well he did just regain his memory of staggering into the bamboo field
and dying in excruciating pain (assumed). As the very last memory
regained, I would think he might be still coping with that as something
that, to his perspective, just happened. And after having that thrust
upon him, his father basically says "hey schmuck - you're quite dead."
"and oh yeah- all your friends are throwing you a party in the next
room, where they are all acting kinda goofy. Happy deathday, son".
Jack might have felt a little overwhelmed.

OscartheGrouch

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May 26, 2010, 5:18:14 PM5/26/10
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On May 26, 2:02 pm, Advance Scout <ivan...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Rick wrote:
>
> > "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Still, did they hook up in the afterlife? I couldn't tell.

A Watcher

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May 26, 2010, 8:45:48 PM5/26/10
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Jack died quickly while Kate probably missed him for many years before
she finally died.

Advance Scout

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May 26, 2010, 9:17:52 PM5/26/10
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I thought I just answered that

Rick

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May 26, 2010, 10:52:17 PM5/26/10
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"A Watcher" <stoc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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That's a great point which I hadn't thought about.

OscartheGrouch

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May 27, 2010, 6:02:43 PM5/27/10
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You just made the case that Jack was overwhelmed. That's no answer.

kjde...@gmail.com

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May 15, 2013, 8:44:41 PM5/15/13
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Let me tell you I get OBSESSED with my characters getting together. Any way at the end I was freaking out with happiness they did get together, aka hook up I just think jack was a little overwhelmed but yes they hooked up they went to heaven to together! I cried three times during that episode soo sad soo sweet and soo sad the series was over. Over all though yes they hooked up :)
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Bill Taylor

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May 16, 2013, 9:07:47 AM5/16/13
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On Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:45:48 PM UTC+12, A Watcher wrote:

> Jack died quickly while Kate probably missed him for many years before
> she finally died.

I see not everypne has seen the preview of
the post-series story that I gained access to,
with my Violet-Lite ultra-EMP Palantnet connection.

Kate's fate in the real world, along with many others,
is seen here...
========================================================

DESMOND
=======
After new-protecter Hurley quickly intuited the new correct
bearing to leave on, Desmond was sent packing on his yacht,
and managed to return without difficulty.

As Penny was the sole inheritor of Widmore Conglomerates,
she put a large amount in trust for Charlie, appointed Desmond
general CEO of the operation, and retired to domesticity.
Desmond's rule at the top has proved more humane and almost
as efficient as Widmore's had been. This was no doubt helped
enormously by his stunningly effective input into the Widmore
EM labs, in which he seemed to have amazing perceptiveness.
As operator and founder of this subsidiary, he amassed quite
a fortune of his own, though he and Penny lived long and
happily together.

ELOISE
======
Tried to legally claim half of the Widmore estate, but failed
largely through lack of evidence. Was bought off by the Humes
for a pittance, and retired an embittered old woman, never to
be heard of again.

FRANK
=====
Became famous as "the man who didn't fly the Oceanic wreck,
but saved the Ajira passengers". (Well, some of them.)
Had a huge career in the movies, and as guest speaker
and stunt man for various enterprises.

SAWYER
======
As one of the last two claimants of a share of the Oceanic 6
(now 8) payouts, (along with Claire), he was able to give up
his grifting career, settle down and drink himself to an early
death. Attempts to re-connect romantically with Kate failed.
Had some success founding reading libraries with very eclectic
book choices, for kids all over the southern states.

Who would have thought he would become one of Dixie's most
fondly remembered characters - SON of a BITCH!

MILES and RICHARD
=================
Disappeared rapidly as soon as the resurrected Ajira plane
landed. Seldom seen again, doing odd jobs here and there;
until lately being seen head-hunted by Widmore Conglomerate,
no-one is exactly sure why.

CLAIRE
======
Everything looked wonderful for this character, with her
big Oceanic payout, and re-united with her son at last!
Kept on Kate as a live-in buddy, and her own mother as nanny,
but as Aaron no longer felt any bond with either of them,
Mrs Littleton senior took over more and more of the mother role.

KATE
====
Moved in with Claire. Living in luxury, with 1.5 payouts
between them, the pair should have been deliriously happy.
Unfortunately, after a brief failing affair with Sawyer,
Kate (and Claire) both found they had gone off men completely,
after their tragedies with Jack and Charlie respectively.

They eventually succumbed to man-hate and propinquity,
and became famous as a Lesbian Extremo-porn double act in
nightclubs and on the net. For a brief while Cassidy
joined them, but couldn't keep up with the pace.

Alas, such was their notoriety, that Mrs Littleton senior
began legal procedings to remove her own daughter as Aaron's
guardian. Just as the case was coming to a nasty conclusion,
Claire pre-empted the matter with an axe-murder of one of
the court officials, screaming "I killed that bastard once
before, and I can do it again!" Her incarceration ended
the case, and Mrs Littleton took Aaron back to Australia.
Once again, "raised by another"!

Kate decayed deeper and deeper into an alcholic daze,
and died in unhealthy middle age, unloved by anyone.

HURLEY & BEN
============
Hurley quickly tuned up his connection with the Island,
(see "Desmond"). As per Ben's advice, he took a totally
new approach to guarding the island, based on the notion of
"hiding in plain sight".

With his island-spiritual abilities, and Ben's still-extensive
real-world net of connections, they put together the theme
park that is slowly putting Disney out of business.
The health benefits alone for well-off retirees are famous,
and worth billions by themselves. The scenic routes are also
famous, as are the various "wonder-miracles" in disparate
parts of the Island. Hurley's brilliant idea of having
the package-deal visits include free chicken handouts at
copious outlets all over the island, were a deal-sealer.
And the rebuilt "Tawaret Statue" is now considered one of
the modern wonders of the world.

As he gradually became the world's richest man,
(easily passing Bill Gates just last year), he became famous
for his philanthropy throughout the world. The present
"age of peace and good feeling" is due in no small part to his
benefactions and common-sensical input to political problems.

Ben, of course, runs the day-to-day operation of the island,
and the two of them, with their complementary expertise,
make very sure that no-one is ever able to find "the source".
In his operation he is ably deputised by Cindy, Seth and Emma,
who (with a few others) elected to stay on the island on
the grounds that "it had been too long" and no-one
would be happy to see them resurrect.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

The only fly in this otherwise soothing ointment is:-
there are unconfirmed reports that Widmore/Hume enterprises
are mounting some sort of commercial and/or electromagnetic
assault on the island - no-one seems to know any firm details...

-- Back-story Bill

Bob

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May 17, 2013, 9:56:17 PM5/17/13
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On May 15, 8:44 pm, kjden...@gmail.com wrote:

> Let me tell you I get OBSESSED with my characters getting together. Any way at the end I was freaking out with happiness they did get together, aka hook up I just think jack was a little overwhelmed but yes they hooked up they went to heaven to together! I cried three times during that episode soo sad soo sweet and soo sad the series was over. Over all though yes they hooked up :)

Do you mean the original Jack or his double, and the original Kate or
her double?

Bill Taylor

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May 18, 2013, 1:38:13 AM5/18/13
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On May 18, 1:56 pm, Bob <docs...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Over all though yes they hooked up :)
>
> Do you mean the original Jack or his double, and the original Kate or
> her double?

And howcome John's treble never got hooked up? Eh? Howcome? Eh?


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