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Sawyer and Kate do not end up together

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thelo...@lost.lost

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May 24, 2010, 1:05:15 PM5/24/10
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They may have both left on the plane together, but either 1) they died
shortly thereafter, or they separated shortly after returning to the real
world. The reason being that Purgatory-Sawyer seemed much happier to be with
Juliet than with Kate.

It does surprise me after the long and tedious love triangle that nobody
ended up with Kate.

(maybe she went lesbian; did seem awful happy to meet up with Claire again)

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Peppermint Patootie

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May 24, 2010, 1:49:40 PM5/24/10
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In article <htebk...@news4.newsguy.com>, thelo...@lost.lost wrote:

> They may have both left on the plane together, but either 1) they died
> shortly thereafter, or they separated shortly after returning to the real
> world. The reason being that Purgatory-Sawyer seemed much happier to be with
> Juliet than with Kate.
>
> It does surprise me after the long and tedious love triangle that nobody
> ended up with Kate.

Uh, she ended up with Jack.

PP

thelo...@lost.lost

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May 24, 2010, 2:07:52 PM5/24/10
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> Uh, she ended up with Jack.

Was the final scene not Jack dying on the Island staring up at the plane that
Kate flew away in? If she really wanted to be with Jack she had a funny way
of showing it.

Peppermint Patootie

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May 24, 2010, 2:00:10 PM5/24/10
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In article <htef9...@news6.newsguy.com>, thelo...@lost.lost wrote:

> > Uh, she ended up with Jack.
>
> Was the final scene not Jack dying on the Island staring up at the plane that
> Kate flew away in? If she really wanted to be with Jack she had a funny way
> of showing it.

In the sideways/purgatory. That's "finally."

Just explaining, not endorsing.

PP

Bev Vincent

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May 24, 2010, 2:06:31 PM5/24/10
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> They may have both left on the plane together, but either 1) they died
> shortly thereafter, or they separated shortly after returning to the real
> world. The reason being that Purgatory-Sawyer seemed much happier to be
> with
> Juliet than with Kate.
>
> It does surprise me after the long and tedious love triangle that nobody
> ended up with Kate.
>
> (maybe she went lesbian; did seem awful happy to meet up with Claire
> again)

She woke up in bed next to Bob Newhart. At least on Jimmy Kimmel.
--

Bev Vincent
www.BevVincent.com

Rick

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May 24, 2010, 2:06:41 PM5/24/10
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"Peppermint Patootie" <Peppermin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No, Jack died on the island. The OP is referencing the fact that Kate and
Sawyer presumably got off the island and then lived separate lives after
that. When they got together in the sideways purgatory, Sawyer clearly
still felt Juliet was the love of his life. Since Kate didn't seem to have
any obvious partner in the church (other than Jack) - my take is that she
didn't live too long after getting of the island. In fact, I think it is
quite possible that the plane never made it back to the mainland and may
have even been the wreckage we saw in the final shots...

thelo...@lost.lost

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May 24, 2010, 2:23:19 PM5/24/10
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> In the sideways/purgatory. That's "finally."
>
> Just explaining, not endorsing.

Fair enough. I'd concede that Kate and Jack seemed headed off together in the
afterlife.

In their real post-Island life though, it seems Kate did not end up with
either of the two members of the original love triangle (or alternatively
that she ended up with Sawyer, but that relationship was inferior to both the
Kate-Jack relationship and the Sawyer-Juliette relationship).

Kate should have stayed on the Island. She may have been the one person who
would have been thoughtful enough to go back down the rope into the cave and
check on Jack to see if he was dead or not (possibly even save him), rather
than letting him wash up in the field alone and die with Vincent.

Echo

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May 24, 2010, 3:39:56 PM5/24/10
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Vincent was not in the church either. :P

Neither was Michael or Walt. Michael was presumably already dead, or
so he told Hugo. I guess he wasn't invited to the church either.
Doesn't seem fair. If Ben could be there, it seems like Michael
should have been able to attend.

Steven L.

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May 24, 2010, 4:07:37 PM5/24/10
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"thelo...@lost.lost" <thelo...@lost.lost> wrote in message
news:htef9...@news6.newsguy.com:

> > Uh, she ended up with Jack.
>
> Was the final scene not Jack dying on the Island staring up at the plane that
> Kate flew away in? If she really wanted to be with Jack she had a funny way
> of showing it.

After shooting MiB, Kate kissed Jack and told him that she hoped that
they would meet again.

And so they did--in that limbo.

-- Steven L.


Steven L.

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May 24, 2010, 4:09:38 PM5/24/10
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"Rick" <ri...@nomail.com> wrote in message
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No, that wreckage had the Oceanic colors.

-- Steven L.


Kyle T. Jones

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May 24, 2010, 4:39:06 PM5/24/10
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Michael got a bum rap - how many parents, child kidnapped by nutty Ben
Linus, *wouldn't* have done what he did?

Cheers.

tinydancer

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May 24, 2010, 8:59:17 PM5/24/10
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On 24 May 2010 18:23:19 GMT, thelo...@lost.lost wrote:

>Kate should have stayed on the Island. She may have been the one person who
>would have been thoughtful enough to go back down the rope into the cave and
>check on Jack to see if he was dead or not (possibly even save him), rather
>than letting him wash up in the field alone and die with Vincent.

Then Hurley would have had one more person in addition to Desmond that
he needed to arrange to get off the island :).

Hunter

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May 24, 2010, 11:57:53 PM5/24/10
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In article <htebk...@news4.newsguy.com>, thelo...@lost.lost
says...

> They may have both left on the plane together, but either 1) they died
> shortly thereafter, or they separated shortly after returning to the real
> world. The reason being that Purgatory-Sawyer seemed much happier to be with
> Juliet than with Kate.
>
> It does surprise me after the long and tedious love triangle that nobody
> ended up with Kate.
>
> (maybe she went lesbian; did seem awful happy to meet up with Claire again)
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She ended up with Jack, and I am glad of it. I always wanted Kate to
be with Jack instead of Sawyer. And of course I am glad that Sawyer
got his Juliet.
--
----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907

gemjack

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May 25, 2010, 12:07:32 AM5/25/10
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Who could see that scene and not think of someone they once knew?
-gj

poldy

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May 26, 2010, 6:38:02 PM5/26/10
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In article <htebk...@news4.newsguy.com>, thelo...@lost.lost wrote:

> They may have both left on the plane together, but either 1) they died
> shortly thereafter, or they separated shortly after returning to the real
> world. The reason being that Purgatory-Sawyer seemed much happier to be with
> Juliet than with Kate.

OK, the finale is on my DVR, waiting for me to return home from a trip.

But for real, they went the Purgatory route?

Didn't they deny they'd pull that shit?

Melroseman

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May 27, 2010, 12:40:07 AM5/27/10
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On May 24, 1:05 pm, thelost...@lost.lost wrote:
> They may have both left on the plane together, but either 1) they died
> shortly thereafter, or they separated shortly after returning to the real
> world. The reason being that Purgatory-Sawyer seemed much happier to be with
> Juliet than with Kate.

Or Kate and Sawyer lived a lovely life and then died and ended up with
their true soulmates in the afterlife. Why can't Kate have had the
best of both worlds? ;) This fits with the Darlton smug
sneakiness.... "who does Kate end up with?" Their answer would be
"both."

Darren Delgado

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May 27, 2010, 2:49:57 PM5/27/10
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I like to think that Hurley gave Vincent the touch of immortality,
along with Ben. That's why he didn't show up at the party.

Ben and Hurley were there, presumably, because they died after their
many years of service. Maybe Vincent still walks the Island with
whoever the next candidate was.

Darren Delgado

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May 27, 2010, 2:51:39 PM5/27/10
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I always thought that was a cop out -- he could have gone to the other
survivors and told them what happened, that Walt contacted him through
the computer, and got a posse together. Not go off making deals with
Crazy Bug-Eyed Cryptic Prisoner Guy, and shooting his friends.

Aaron *Brother Head* Moss

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May 30, 2010, 10:37:44 AM5/30/10
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"poldy" <po...@kfu.com> wrote in message
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No, they didn't.

No where did they say that Purgartory would never show up.
They said that the Island isn't purgartory/hell/the afterlife.

And it isn't/wasn't.

Go watch the finale or don't. It's your choice.

--
Rev. Aaron *Brother Head* Moss
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looking for a new relationship.

Hunter

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Jun 16, 2010, 6:47:05 PM6/16/10
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In article <htefc0$coi$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, ri...@nomail.com says...
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I think they had long lives both those who stayed on the Island and
those who left. There is no evidence that the plane crashed so we
have every right to assume it landed safely in Fiji or Gaum and
Miles, Lapidus, Sawyer, Kate, Richard and Claire all lived reasonably
long lives. The same for Rose & Bernard on the Island. Desmond too
and I think he eventually made it home to the outside world. Hugo and
perhaps Ben lived on for centuries but they eventually died as well.

The passage of time in the Original timeline doesn't mean anything in
the Afterlife. And to me it wasn't purgatory in the classic sense but
as Christian said, a place that was set up by them unconsciously so
to speak so they could later meet together as those who lived
finished out their lives and they could move on together. If there is
a purgatory it was below the island as Michael said to Hurley. He
said that he was in a place he can't move on from that could be
purgatory (although the traditional meaning of it is that you can
move on from purgatory after doing penance. It seems that Michael and
the other whispers never will move on.

dieyoungstaypretty

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Dec 30, 2014, 6:56:08 PM12/30/14
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Uhm. No. It was quite obvious that Kate and Sawyer didn't live a "lovely" life together. Maybe as friends, but not as lovers. That was clear.
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