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WG...@webtv.net

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Jan 20, 2008, 4:20:13 AM1/20/08
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It made over $16 million dollars it's first day! It will definately make
up it's budget of $25 million by the end of the weekend. A small movie
that became a real blockbuster. It seems like just about everything JJ
touches, turns to gold.

Daily Box Office for Friday, January 18, 2008

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Steven L.

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Jan 20, 2008, 10:09:11 PM1/20/08
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WG...@webtv.net wrote:
> It made over $16 million dollars it's first day! It will definately make
> up it's budget of $25 million by the end of the weekend. A small movie
> that became a real blockbuster. It seems like just about everything JJ
> touches, turns to gold.

His TV series, "Six Degrees," didn't turn to gold. More like it turned
to lead.


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JK

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Jan 20, 2008, 11:44:19 PM1/20/08
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<WG...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> It made over $16 million dollars it's first day! It will definately make
> up it's budget of $25 million by the end of the weekend. A small movie
> that became a real blockbuster.


What's it up against? Teens will go see just about anything. I'll be
convinced when it's still running in 3 weeks. Blockbuster status is very far
away.


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WG...@webtv.net

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Jan 21, 2008, 4:06:25 AM1/21/08
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]11:44pm (PST+3) From:
] jksinrod*SPAM*@aol.com (JK)

]<WG...@webtv.net> wrote in message
]It made over $16 million dollars it's first day! It


] will definately make up it's budget of $25
] million by the end of the weekend. A small
] movie that became a real blockbuster.

  
]  What's it up against? Teens will go see just
] about anything. I'll be convinced when it's still
] running in 3 weeks. Blockbuster status is very
] far away.

Well let's see, it cost $25 million to make, and it took in $41 million
it's first weekend. I would have to say it has already achieved
Blockbuster status.


WG...@webtv.net

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Jan 21, 2008, 4:02:04 AM1/21/08
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]10:09pm (PST+3) From: sdli...@earthlink.net
] (Steven L.)

]His TV series, "Six Degrees," didn't turn to


] gold. More like it turned to lead.

I watched, and liked that series. It was never given a chance to
succeed. They moved it around too much, and pre-empted it a lot.


AC

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Jan 21, 2008, 5:23:59 AM1/21/08
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<WG...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Is blockbuster status given on a cost / profit ratio?

If a movie costs $5m and takes $10m, is that a blockbuster? Is it more
successfull than Cloverfield because its cost / profit ratio is greater?

AC

Steven L.

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Jan 21, 2008, 10:20:07 AM1/21/08
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JK wrote:
> <WG...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:22236-479...@storefull-3311.bay.webtv.net...
>> It made over $16 million dollars it's first day! It will definately make
>> up it's budget of $25 million by the end of the weekend. A small movie
>> that became a real blockbuster.
>
>
> What's it up against? Teens will go see just about anything.

Originally, it was thought that the romantic movie "27 Dresses" would
give "Cloverfield" a run for its money. But it's turned out to be no
contest--"Cloverfield" has double the gross of "27 Dresses."

http://www.imdb.com/chart/

In fact, it looks like "Cloverfield" has the highest opening gross of
any movie that premiered during a MLK holiday weekend ever.

No doubt about it, "Cloverfield" is a big hit. Especially given that it
cost only $30 million to produce (small by today's standards), and it's
already turned a profit in just one weekend.

WG...@webtv.net

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Jan 21, 2008, 2:51:48 PM1/21/08
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You keep saying that the budget on this movie was $30 million, well you
can see here that it was only $25 million. And the movie has taken in
over $50 million world wide. If that is not a "Blockbuster", I do not
know what is.

Cloverfield (2008)

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Darren Delgado

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Jan 21, 2008, 6:00:03 PM1/21/08
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On Jan 21, 5:23 am, "AC" <x...@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
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>
> ]<WG...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> ]It made over $16 million dollars it's first day! It
> ] will definately make up it's budget of $25
> ] million by the end of the weekend. A small
> ] movie that became a real blockbuster.
>
> ] What's it up against? Teens will go see just
> ] about anything. I'll be convinced when it's still
> ] running in 3 weeks. Blockbuster status is very
> ] far away.
>
> >Well let's see, it cost $25 million to make, and it took in $41 million
> >it's first weekend. I would have to say it has already achieved
> >Blockbuster status.
>
> Is blockbuster status given on a cost / profit ratio?
>
> If a movie costs $5m and takes $10m, is that a blockbuster? Is it more
> successfull than Cloverfield because its cost / profit ratio is greater?

It definitely isn't a blockbuster (yet); for that designation I think
total gross receipts are an appropriate measure.

For "successful" I would say cost/profit ratio is more appropriate.
If a film costs $5 million and makes $10 million, it's definitely
"successful". And, less successful than a film that costs $80 million
and makes $200 million.

s0183616

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Jan 21, 2008, 6:09:21 PM1/21/08
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Also, keep in mind that it's the biggest opening weekend of any movie in
January ever. That may not grant blockbuster status, but it does grant
"record-breaking" status and "big success" status.

Andrew

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Jan 21, 2008, 7:13:57 PM1/21/08
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A straight ratio figure here doesn't work. The bigger the budget the
harder it is to recoup - not just because of strict proportionality,
but because wealth is unequally shared in societies so cinema audiences
are wealth-biased. I fear that a logarithmic relationship may rear its
ugly head here.

Ryan Robbins

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Jan 22, 2008, 12:29:35 AM1/22/08
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<WG...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> You keep saying that the budget on this movie was $30 million, well you
> can see here that it was only $25 million. And the movie has taken in
> over $50 million world wide. If that is not a "Blockbuster", I do not
> know what is.

Blockbuster status requires $100 million in ticket sales.


Todd

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Jan 22, 2008, 1:46:29 AM1/22/08
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:09:11 -0500, "Steven L."
<sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>WG...@webtv.net wrote:
>> It made over $16 million dollars it's first day! It will definately make
>> up it's budget of $25 million by the end of the weekend. A small movie
>> that became a real blockbuster. It seems like just about everything JJ
>> touches, turns to gold.
>
>His TV series, "Six Degrees," didn't turn to gold. More like it turned
>to lead.


God, that show was horrible.

Todd

Todd

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Jan 22, 2008, 1:48:21 AM1/22/08
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I hated it. The stories were dull and there was nothing compelling
about the connections between the characters. It didn't even have
decent dialogue.

Todd

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Jan 22, 2008, 3:17:55 AM1/22/08
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On Jan 20, 7:09 pm, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> WG...@webtv.net wrote:
> > It made over $16 million dollars it's first day! It will definately make
> > up it's budget of $25 million by the end of the weekend. A small movie
> > that became a real blockbuster. It seems like just about everything JJ
> > touches, turns to gold.
>
> His TV series, "Six Degrees," didn't turn to gold. More like it turned
> to lead.


Thank you Mr Attention to Every Detail.
How are YOUR series and films grossing?

WG...@webtv.net

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Jan 22, 2008, 4:05:44 AM1/22/08
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]5:29am (PST+8) From:
] redbi...@verizon.net (Ryan Robbins)

]<WG...@webtv.net> wrote in message
]You keep saying that the budget on this movie


] was $30 million, well you can see here that it
] was only $25 million. And the movie has taken
] in over $50 million world wide. If that is not a
] "Blockbuster", I do not know what is.


]Blockbuster status requires $100 million in
] ticket sales.

And that will be achieved by the end of next weekend. This movie looks
like it will do $200 milion in ticket sales, world wide.


AC

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Jan 22, 2008, 7:59:20 AM1/22/08
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"Darren Delgado" <darren...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Yeah, kind of agree.

Just wondering what a "blockbuster" (I know its historical meaning) or
"successful movie" actually is. These terms are thrown all over the place
and no one really knows what actually means!!!!!!!

Then I wonder about all those people that go see a film, and actually didn't
like it that much. And I think CF might suffer in that regard because it is
not exactly a main stream movie. Or the Lost mob turning up hoping to learn
so great truth about the island.

I suppose the question of whether its a good movie or not is irrelevant,
what matters is that it takes money.

Now I'm lost............

AC


Ryan Robbins

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Jan 22, 2008, 12:27:36 PM1/22/08
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<WG...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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]5:29am (PST+8) From:
] redbi...@verizon.net (Ryan Robbins)

]<WG...@webtv.net> wrote in message
]You keep saying that the budget on this movie
] was $30 million, well you can see here that it
] was only $25 million. And the movie has taken
] in over $50 million world wide. If that is not a
] "Blockbuster", I do not know what is.


]Blockbuster status requires $100 million in
] ticket sales.

>And that will be achieved by the end of next weekend.

Until then, it's not a blockbuster.


s0183616

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Jan 22, 2008, 4:12:05 PM1/22/08
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I don't think any significant percentage of moviegoers are Lost fans
hoping for content that relates to Lost.

> I suppose the question of whether its a good movie or not is irrelevant,
> what matters is that it takes money.

Bottom line, I suppose, but I think it actually is a pretty good movie.
I enjoyed it quite a bit. Can someone mention a single "giant
monster" movie that is nearly as scary?

cop...@yahoo.com

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On Jan 22, 3:12 pm, s0183616 <s0183...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> AC wrote:
> > "Darren Delgado" <darrendelg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > > I suppose the question of whether its a good movie or not is irrelevant,
> > what matters is that it takes money.
>
> Bottom line, I suppose, but I think it actually is a pretty good movie.
> I enjoyed it quite a bit. Can someone mention a single "giant
> monster" movie that is nearly as scary?

Tremors.

Or were the monsters not big enough?

Brandon

Brandon

s0183616

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Jan 22, 2008, 4:34:57 PM1/22/08
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Wasn't Tremors a comedy?

And, no, I'm talking a hell of a lot bigger than that.

Steven L.

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Jan 22, 2008, 6:27:12 PM1/22/08
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AC wrote:

> Just wondering what a "blockbuster" (I know its historical meaning) or
> "successful movie" actually is. These terms are thrown all over the place
> and no one really knows what actually means!!!!!!!

Well, we can look at the list of the 50 top grossing films of all time
after adjusting for inflation:

http://www.the-movie-times.com/thrsdir/alltime.mv?adjusted+ByAG

If Hollywood makes any blockbusters, then THOSE 50 movies are the
blockbusters.

Number 1 on the list is "Gone With the Wind." In today's inflated
dollars, it grossed nearly $1.4 billion.

It's also interesting that the 12 top grossing films of all time are all
family movies. You don't get to an R rated (adult) movie till number
13, "The Exorcist." And it's the only adult movie in the top 20.

s0183616

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Jan 22, 2008, 11:02:04 PM1/22/08
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Steven L. wrote:
> AC wrote:
>
>> Just wondering what a "blockbuster" (I know its historical meaning)
>> or "successful movie" actually is. These terms are thrown all over the
>> place and no one really knows what actually means!!!!!!!
>
> Well, we can look at the list of the 50 top grossing films of all time
> after adjusting for inflation:
>
> http://www.the-movie-times.com/thrsdir/alltime.mv?adjusted+ByAG
>
> If Hollywood makes any blockbusters, then THOSE 50 movies are the
> blockbusters.
>
> Number 1 on the list is "Gone With the Wind." In today's inflated
> dollars, it grossed nearly $1.4 billion.
>
> It's also interesting that the 12 top grossing films of all time are all
> family movies. You don't get to an R rated (adult) movie till number
> 13, "The Exorcist." And it's the only adult movie in the top 20.

This is not completely bogus, but it's kinda bogus. Inflation actually
is, due to compounding, an advantage to old movies. Kinda like how my
401k is gonna make me a millionaire.

Ryan P.

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Jan 23, 2008, 10:26:07 AM1/23/08
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s0183616 wrote:

> This is not completely bogus, but it's kinda bogus. Inflation actually
> is, due to compounding, an advantage to old movies. Kinda like how my
> 401k is gonna make me a millionaire.

.
.
On the other hand, movies today benefit from being show on 9 million
screens across America, as opposed to a few thousand (at most) in the
old days.

So, in my mind, a movie that keeps America's interest for as long as
would be required to earn as much as Gone With the Wind, that's pretty
amazing.

Who here will be interested in seeing "The Bucket List" a year from now?

Ryan P.

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Jan 23, 2008, 10:31:16 AM1/23/08
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WG...@webtv.net wrote:
> You keep saying that the budget on this movie was $30 million, well you
> can see here that it was only $25 million. And the movie has taken in
> over $50 million world wide. If that is not a "Blockbuster", I do not
> know what is.
.
.
"WaterWorld" cost $175M to make, and grossed $285M... do you consider
that a blockbuster?

WG...@webtv.net

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]9:31am (PST+2) From:
] rpa...@delete.this.part.wi.rr.com (Ryan P.)

]WG...@webtv.net wrote:
]You keep saying that the budget on this movie
] was $30 million, well you can see here that it
] was only $25 million. And the movie has taken
] in over $50 million world wide. If that is not a
] "Blockbuster", I do not know what is.

.
] "WaterWorld" cost $175M to make, and


] grossed $285M... do you consider
]that a blockbuster?

No I do not! Now if it had made $350 million it's first weekend, then I
would say it was. The fact of the matter is that very few movies these
days make their budget the first weekend out. And for a film to "double"
it's budget in the first few days is a movie that deserves "Blockbuster"
status. Like I said in a previous post I think this movie will do at
least $200 million worldwide in the next few weeks.


s0183616

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Jan 23, 2008, 10:30:58 PM1/23/08
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"Blockbuster" is such a relative term.

Here's how I would justify calling Cloverfield a blockbuster:

- I believe it will bring in over $100 million in profit. Maybe
Waterworld should be considered a blockbuster, but I am STUNNED that it
made as much as was claimed.

- I believe that we're gonna see a lot of "huge monster" movies in the
next few years. The sub-genre is rebooted by this one, single movie.

- It overperformed drastically.

But, really, who cares? It's a fun movie, very entertaining, not much
substance, and it made a shitload of money.

I will take a fun, entertaining movie any day.

WG...@webtv.net

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]3:30am (PST+8) From: s018...@yahoo.com
] (s0183616)

]- I believe it will bring in over $100 million in


] profit. Maybe Waterworld should be
] considered a blockbuster, but I am STUNNED
] that it made as much as was claimed.

Well "Waterworld" only made $88 million in the U.S. and $197 million
overseas. So the $285 million was world wide receipts.

]- I believe that we're gonna see a lot of "huge


] monster" movies in the next few years. The
] sub-genre is rebooted by this one, single
] movie.

And a lot of them will probably be produced by JJ's production company
Bad Robot.

]But, really, who cares? It's a fun movie, very


] entertaining, not much substance, and it made
] a shitload of money.
]I will take a fun, entertaining movie any day.

I had a feeling Cloverfield would do well when this movie critic that I
know, "who hates just about everything", gave it 3 stars!


Ryan Robbins

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Jan 26, 2008, 1:07:43 AM1/26/08
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<WG...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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]And for a film to "double"

>it's budget in the first few days is a movie that deserves "Blockbuster"
>status.

The industry and the news media disagree with you.

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