Dianne Wiest will be new DA
lavinia
Thursday July 13, 6:01 am Eastern Time
Company Press Release
SOURCE: Studios USA
Dianne Wiest, Two-Time Oscar, and Emmy, Golden Globe and SAG
Award-Winning Actress Joins the Cast of Wolf Films/Studios USA's
'Law & Order' As New District Attorney
WEST HOLLYWOOD, Calif., July 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Dianne
Wiest, one of today's most honored female actors with two Academy
Awards, an Emmy, a Golden Globe, a SAG Award and numerous other
accolades, is joining the cast of NBC's Emmy Award-winning drama
series Law & Order as the new District Attorney, it was announced
today by Creator and Executive Producer Dick Wolf.
(Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/19990519/STUDIOSUSA )
The Wolf Films/Studios USA series, currently the
longest-running drama series on network television, enters its
eleventh season on NBC this fall. Wiest's new character replaces
D.A. Adam Schiff (Steven Hill) who had been running the District
Attorney's office on the series since its first season in 1990.
``Having a female actor of this caliber is unprecedented on
series television. Dianne has won virtually every major film
award and has established herself as one of the finest actors of
her generation,创 Wolf said. ``Her character will add a new
dynamic to the series.创
Wolf added, ``Steven Hill, who did an amazing job for ten
years as Adam Schiff and was nominated for an Emmy in the
process, has made an inestimable contribution to the series, and
his performance and character will be forever etched in the minds
of television viewers. He will be sorely missed.创
Wiest is known for her high profile roles in the Woody
Allen projects ``Hannah and Her Sisters创 and ``Bullets Over
Broadway创 (for which she won her Oscars and numerous other
awards) as well as ``Purple Rose of Cairo,创 ``Radio Days创 and
``September.创 She earned an Oscar nomination for ``Parenthood创
and has also tackled a wide range of pivotal roles in such
diverse and critically-acclaimed films as ``The Horse
Whisperer,创 ``The Birdcage,创 ``Little Man Tate,创
``Footloose,创 ``Independence Day,创 ``The Lost Boys,创 ``Edward
Scissorhands创 and ``Practical Magic.创
Wiest's impressive list of awards includes:
-- Best Supporting Actress Oscars for "Bullets Over
Broadway" (1995) and "Hannah and Her Sisters" (1987) as well as a
nomination in that category for "Parenthood" (1990).
-- An Emmy Award for Outstanding Guest Actress in a Drama
Series (1997) for "The Road to Avonlea" and a nomination for
Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Miniseries or Movie for "The
Simple Life of Noah Dearborn" (1999).
-- A Golden Globe Award for "Bullets Over Broadway" as well
as nominations for "Parenthood" and "Hannah and her Sisters."
-- A SAG Award for "Bullets Over Broadway."
-- The Los Angeles Film Critics Association Award for
"Bullets Over Broadway."
-- National Society of Film Critics Awards for "Bullets
Over Broadway" and "Hannah and Her Sisters."
-- New York Film Critics Circle Awards for "Hannah and Her
Sisters" and "Bullets Over Broadway."
-- National Board of Review Award for "Hannah and Her
Sisters."
-- Blockbuster Entertainment Award for "The Birdcage"
(1997).
With its recent renewal through the year 2005, Law & Order
is poised to become one of the longest-running drama series in
the history of television as well as the most tenured legal and
drama series ever. Law & Order won the coveted Outstanding Drama
Series Emmy Award in 1997 and has been nominated a record eight
consecutive times. The series airs Wednesdays at 10:00 p.m. ET/PT
on NBC.
Law & Order, filmed on location in New York City, is a Wolf
Films Production in association with Studios USA Television. Dick
Wolf is creator and executive producer, Arthur Penn and William
Finkelstein are executive producers and Peter Jankowski is
co-executive producer.
Wiest is represented by Sylvia Gold and Robert Levinson at
ICM.
Studios USA (www.studiosusa.com) a division of USA
Networks, Inc., (Nasdaq: USAI - news) develops networks and
first-run television programs.
SOURCE: Studios USA
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Glenn A Neumann
Call me a sexist, but that's too many women on the show. Something has to
happen here to get this show back where it used to be, and I don't think
that this is it.
SW4747
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Dana Carpender
Dianne Wiest is a fine actress. I'm satisfied with this choice!
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Dana Carpender
SW4747 wrote:
> There goes the show. Right down the shitter.
Why do you say that? I'm just curious...
Dana Carpender
Glenn A Neumann wrote:
Hmm. We have Abby, Anita, and now the new DA. We traded in Olivet -- a
woman -- for Skoda, a man. But I mostly catch the A&E reruns, since I'm
often working till 11-12 pm on Wednesdays, so tell me -- are there more women
than that? Or no? And if not, why are three too many?
Bryan Ganey
I suppose that's an acceptable choice.
> her generation,´´ Wolf said. ``Her character will add a new
> dynamic to the series.´´
> Wolf added, ``Steven Hill, who did an amazing job for ten
> years as Adam Schiff and was nominated for an Emmy in the
> process, has made an inestimable contribution to the series, and
> his performance and character will be forever etched in the minds
> of television viewers. He will be sorely missed.´´
> Wiest is known for her high profile roles in the Woody
> Allen projects ``Hannah and Her Sisters´´ and ``Bullets Over
> Broadway´´ (for which she won her Oscars and numerous other
> awards) as well as ``Purple Rose of Cairo,´´ ``Radio Days´´ and
> ``September.´´ She earned an Oscar nomination for ``Parenthood´´
> and has also tackled a wide range of pivotal roles in such
> diverse and critically-acclaimed films as ``The Horse
> Whisperer,´´ ``The Birdcage,´´ ``Little Man Tate,´´
> ``Footloose,´´ ``Independence Day,´´ ``The Lost Boys,´´ ``Edward
> Scissorhands´´ and ``Practical Magic.´´
SW4747
seeing a woman in the role. You need a grumpy old guy to play it.
"Dana Carpender" <dcar...@kiva.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> SW4747 wrote:
>
> > There goes the show. Right down the shitter.
>
> Why do you say that? I'm just curious...
SW4747
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>
>
> Thursday July 13, 6:01 am Eastern Time
> Company Press Release
> SOURCE: Studios USA
> Dianne Wiest, Two-Time Oscar, and Emmy, Golden Globe and SAG
> Award-Winning Actress Joins the Cast of Wolf Films/Studios USA's
> 'Law & Order' As New District Attorney
>
> WEST HOLLYWOOD, Calif., July 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Dianne
> Wiest, one of today's most honored female actors with two Academy
> Awards, an Emmy, a Golden Globe, a SAG Award and numerous other
> accolades, is joining the cast of NBC's Emmy Award-winning drama
> series Law & Order as the new District Attorney, it was announced
> today by Creator and Executive Producer Dick Wolf.
> (Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/19990519/STUDIOSUSA )
> The Wolf Films/Studios USA series, currently the
> longest-running drama series on network television, enters its
> eleventh season on NBC this fall. Wiest's new character replaces
> D.A. Adam Schiff (Steven Hill) who had been running the District
> Attorney's office on the series since its first season in 1990.
> ``Having a female actor of this caliber is unprecedented on
> series television. Dianne has won virtually every major film
> award and has established herself as one of the finest actors of
> dynamic to the series.创
> Wolf added, ``Steven Hill, who did an amazing job for ten
> years as Adam Schiff and was nominated for an Emmy in the
> process, has made an inestimable contribution to the series, and
> his performance and character will be forever etched in the minds
> Wiest is known for her high profile roles in the Woody
> Broadway创 (for which she won her Oscars and numerous other
> awards) as well as ``Purple Rose of Cairo,创 ``Radio Days创 and
> and has also tackled a wide range of pivotal roles in such
> diverse and critically-acclaimed films as ``The Horse
> ``Footloose,创 ``Independence Day,创 ``The Lost Boys,创 ``Edward
> Scissorhands创 and ``Practical Magic.创
Dana Carpender
SW4747 wrote:
> Steven Hill is the only one I can see in that role. I'm not interested in
> seeing a woman in the role. You need a grumpy old guy to play it.
I'd like to state right here that I *adore* Steven Hill, and if he were
willing to stay, he would always and forever be my first choice. However, if
that is not to be, why must we replace one grumpy old guy with another? I
sincerely doubt that that's how DAs are chosen.
Chris Crandall
: Call me a sexist, but that's too many women on the show.
OK, you're a sexist.
Three women out of 7 recurring major characters, and you're pissing your
pants. That fits the definition.
Chris Crandall
: Steven Hill is the only one I can see in that role. I'm not interested in
: seeing a woman in the role. You need a grumpy old guy to play it.
Fortunately, Dick Wolf doesn't lack imagination.
Carrie
she's cast against type here, but certainly could be believable
in the part. I commend Wolf & Co. for not trying to pick
another Adam.
Carrie
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Before you buy.
paul cook
"Glenn A Neumann" <MYW...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> Call me a sexist, but that's too many women on the show. Something
>has to happen here to get this show back where it used to be, and I
>don't think that this is it.
>
>
Ok, you're sexist. Wiest is a TERRIFIC choice, I think, and she will
bring a very interesting dynamic to the show. I think she's probably
around Sam's age, perhaps a few years younger, but it will fun to watch
how his Jack McCoy interacts with his new boss. As sad as I am to see
Steven go, I think this just might perk up the Order half and give a
little new life to an increasingly somber Jack.
paul cook
Agree, Chris. Replacing Hill with just another version of him would
have been silly. Besides, certainly we are to understand that Adam
became DA while he was a younger man and so it makes sense that the new
DA would be younger as well.
Bryan Ganey
viewers, they should put the show on Lifetime, or maybe that new "Oxygen"
channel.
> From: "Glenn A Neumann" <MYW...@prodigy.net>
> Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com
> Newsgroups: alt.tv.law-and-order
Dana Carpender
Bryan Ganey wrote:
> I agree....waaayyyy too many women. If they are only going after women
> viewers, they should put the show on Lifetime, or maybe that new "Oxygen"
> channel.
Because we all know that watching lots of men is interesting to both men *and*
women, but any show with more than a couple of token women properly appeals
only to women, right? Because women are inherently boring or something, I
guess.
seria...@uswest.net
leaving, however, now, Sam Watterston is my absolute favorite. I hold
up all ADA's up to his standards! So give her a chance! She is a
wonderful actress and should do great!
Bonnie
giner
>Something has to happen here to get this show back where it
used >to be, and I don't think that this is it.
Yes, you are sexist. The show doesn't even have a female lead (I
count the detectives and DA as the lead roles, and the rest as
supporting.) Do you simply dislike women in general or just woman
professionals?
I'm pleased with the choice, I think Wiest is a terrific actress.
-giner
Dave Bismo
wrote:
> Wiest is a TERRIFIC choice, I think, and she will
>bring a very interesting dynamic to the show. I think she's probably
>around Sam's age, perhaps a few years younger, but it will fun to watch
>how his Jack McCoy interacts with his new boss. As sad as I am to see
>Steven go, I think this just might perk up the Order half and give a
>little new life to an increasingly somber Jack.
For anyone who wants to see Wiest and Waterston interact, check out
"Hannah and Her Sisters," where her character has an unrequited crush
on his.
I'm beyond sad that Hill's leaving, but I agree that it's better to go
180 degrees from the grumpy, acerbic older DA. I've enjoyed Wiest's
work in a lot of films, though she can occasionally be annoying. Her
credentials and ability are excellent, and don't concern me at all.
What worries me is the writing. They've got to (a) integrate her
character as seamlessly as possible, and (b) create an interesting,
rather than annoying character. Given the recent track record of the
writers, I'm a little concerned.
Thanks for 10 great years, Mr. Hill. No actor ever did more with
less, and you'll never truly be replaced.
-Bismo.
SW4747
still don't like that Det. Green
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Charles A Lieberman
Chris Crandall
>Glenn A Neumann (MYW...@prodigy.net) wrote:
>
>: Call me a sexist, but that's too many women on the show.
>
>Three women out of 7 recurring major characters, and you're pissing your
>pants. That fits the definition.
7? I count six
But I see Glenn's point. Half the main characters are female, and we all
know that's not true of the population at large.
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SW4747
and so are the other 3 county DA's as far as I know.
I'll tell you this, I've never seen a ADA here in NY as good looking as the
last 3 woman that Law and Order has on
Besides, certainly we are to understand that Adam
> became DA while he was a younger man and so it makes sense that the new
> DA would be younger as well.
>
>
SW4747
world. The DA in NY county is a man, so it should be a man on the show.
Glenn A Neumann
All that I meant was that it's unrealistic to have three out of six of the
main characters, which they all are, being women. Look at what happened with
the cops. When Cragen was around, he saw very little screen space in some
episodes. While with Van Buren, they tend to involve her a lot more, whether
it's with witnesses, victims' families, or what have you. I just am afraid
that while Schiff's appeal was that he was only there to give his take on
the cases, and usually not an active participant, the writers will try to
hard to establish the female DA, and end up making her character
unrealisitc.
And, whether it's right or not, the cast simply does not realistically
portray the way things are in New York City law enforcement, which is
supposed to be the whole point. This is sort of like what happened with the
last season of Homicide, the unrealistic amount of female characters led to
some plotlines which just weren't believable. I think that having a female
DA can be an interesting addition, but, for the sake of making the show
realistic, they should consider bringing in a male assistant to McCoy,
somebody like Robinette, but not necessarily African-American. It just might
be interesting to see the way a pairing like this would work out. Although
it might also be an interesting idea to bring in a new boss for the cops,
considering that Van Buren now has been there longer than anybody but
Lennie.
Don Porter
>> I agree....waaayyyy too many women. If they are only going after women
>> viewers, they should put the show on Lifetime, or maybe that new "Oxygen"
>> channel.
Dana Carpender <dcar...@kiva.net> wrote:
> Because we all know that watching lots of men is interesting to both men *and*
> women, but any show with more than a couple of token women properly appeals
> only to women, right? Because women are inherently boring or something, I
> guess.
That about sums it up.
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| -- Adam West as BATMAN |
|______________________________________________________________________|
Jacquilynne Schlesier
> Give it a rest Mrs. Clinton. The fact is that Law Enforcement is a mans
> world. The DA in NY county is a man, so it should be a man on the show.
Because, the show isn't like fiction or anything. Nope, everything that
happens is one hundred percent real. Yep.
Get a grip. It's got some based on real life elements but it is
fictional. THe writers and producers can do wahtever teh hell they want -
regardless of who is DA in NY county - something that probably 90% of teh
viewing audience would have no clue about anyway.
J.
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Dana Carpender <dcar...@kiva.net> wrote:
>
>
> SW4747 wrote:
>
> > Steven Hill is the only one I can see in that role.
> >[snip]
> > You need a grumpy old guy to play it.
Why?
>
> I'd like to state right here that I *adore* Steven Hill, and if he
> were
> willing to stay, he would always and forever be my first choice.
I really like Hill too.
> However, if that is not to be, why must we replace one
> grumpy old guy with another?
Don't worry, the job will make DW pretty grumpy in short order. Somehow,
I think that anyone in that job would become grumpy. That job would
make Ed Grimley grumpy, I must say.
> I sincerely doubt that that's how DAs are chosen.
Probably you're right. Any sign of grumpiness before you have the job
is a sure sign that you'll be way too grumpy once you have the job. So
at least the first time you're elected, you've got to put on that happy
face.
BTW, did anyone catch this part of the article that was posted?
<<``Having a female actor of this caliber is unprecedented on
series television. [snip]创 Wolf said.>>
I think that DW is a great choice, and a great actress, but methinks
that they're swallowing their own publicity.
My one hope is that they do something in the first ep next season to
give Hill a really nice send off. Losing an election or something
dramatic. Not just some cheesy reference to him. Not something where
McCoy walks into his office and is surprised to see DW unpacking her law
books and family pics onto the desk.
Any guesses as to how they'll develop her character?
Liberal? Conservative? Middle of the road? Pro/anti choice? Pro/anti
2nd amendment? Pro/anti free speech? PC/or realist? Any thoughts at
all? I guess that my basic question is, will we see sparks between SW
and DW, or not?
Theget.
Patricia H.
bi...@ix.netcom.com (Dave Bismo) wrote:
>
>
> For anyone who wants to see Wiest and Waterston interact, check out
> "Hannah and Her Sisters," where her character has an unrequited crush
> on his.
Or, check them out in "September" where he has the crush on her. :)
> I'm beyond sad that Hill's leaving, but I agree that it's better to go
> 180 degrees from the grumpy, acerbic older DA. I've enjoyed Wiest's
> work in a lot of films, though she can occasionally be annoying. Her
> credentials and ability are excellent, and don't concern me at all.
> What worries me is the writing. They've got to (a) integrate her
> character as seamlessly as possible, and (b) create an interesting,
> rather than annoying character. Given the recent track record of the
> writers, I'm a little concerned.
>
Yes, I think Dianne will prove a fine replacement but let's hope the
writers introduce the lastest new character better than they have the
last two. The interesting thing is that I'll bet the first script will
be by the newcomer Finkelstein. Maybe he'll be able to create a fresh
character since he doesn't have L&O baggage.
> Thanks for 10 great years, Mr. Hill. No actor ever did more with
> less, and you'll never truly be replaced.
>
I share your sentiments.
Patricia H.
"SW4747" <SW4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I don't Know about that. The New York and Kings County DA now are
>Old Guys,
> and so are the other 3 county DA's as far as I know.
> I'll tell you this, I've never seen a ADA here in NY as good looking
as the
> last 3 woman that Law and Order has on
>
Well. didn't Frank Hogan leave in the mid 1970's which would have put
Schiff in his 50s when he became DA? Wiest is in her early or mid 50s
which would seem about the right age for becoming a DA.
Consta
>This announcement was posted on Michael's L&O board:
>
Terrific choice!
Consta
One can never have too many cats.
Ernest Hemingway
Carrie
of the
> main characters,
I actually agree with you about the last season of "Homicide" -
the squadroom demographic was very unrealistic. But in the
first half of Law & Order, it's *extremely* rare to see a
female cop. Van Buren really is virtually the only one,
and the show has made an issue of it at times. As for the
second half, the legal profession is currently fairly well
balanced between men and women. In fact, I believe there
are more women in law school now than men. And plenty of
those women go on to be prosecutors. Besides, I recall
reading in this group that, when Hill was first considering
retirement, the producers interviewed a woman who is considered
a possible successor to Morgenthau in the New York DA's office -
presumably as a model for what will become Wiest's character.
I think the recent seasons of the show have had problems, but
I really *don't* think they are cast problems. Aside from
her freakish thinness, I like Harmon, and I like Martin too.
And Martin was certainly *not* a racial "token" cast - he
had become an extremely hot property on Ally McBeal and women
of all races were tuning into that show to see Dr. Greg (that's
sure as hell the only reason I ever watched it).
Carrie
Carrie
wouldn't it be a something if Jack's new boss had
an eye for *him* :).
I had totally forgotten Sam was in "Hannah"; I'm really
looking forward to seeing them work together, and as
I've said before, I hope they beef up the DA's part.
Bryan Ganey
screechingly liberal pap we've come to expect.
Ursula S Leubner
> On Jul 13, SW4747 did speak at length about Re: Dianne Wiest will be new DA:
>
> > Give it a rest Mrs. Clinton. The fact is that Law Enforcement is a mans
> > world. The DA in NY county is a man, so it should be a man on the show.
>
> Because, the show isn't like fiction or anything. Nope, everything that
> happens is one hundred percent real. Yep.
>
> Get a grip. It's got some based on real life elements but it is
> fictional. The writers and producers can do whatever the hell they want -
> regardless of who is DA in NY county - something that probably 90% of the
> viewing audience would have no clue about anyway.
>
> J.
>
And the real DA's been there practically forever. Having any new DA is a
big shift away from paralleling the reality of New York, much more
significant than the race or sex of the replacement.
Besides, if they want to accurately mirror the real DA's office, they need
a DA who's policy decisions and politics are similar to that of the real
DA. Adam's character seemed to have been developed to parallel the real
DA in policy, style, etc. If they are going to have a new DA, and want to
keep the DA's positions on cases similar to that of the real NY DA, they
need to make the new DA as different from Adam in as many other ways as
possible, to avoid creating a second rate Adam-clone. The important
characteristics, the ones which need to mirror reality, have to do with
political positions (it wouldn't work to have the L&O DA an ardent Pataki
supporter, for example, when the real one isn't), management style, ethics
(please _don't_ create a corrupt DA, if the real one is honest!)
A fictional "hand-picked successor," similar in politics, but with a
different style and personality, is probably the best way to have a new
DA, without having the fictional DA's office depart to far from the real
one, and without creating a smaller-than-life Adam wannabe.
Ursula
Kaiju
Charles A Lieberman wrote:
>
> 13 Jul 2000 17:44:34 GMT
> Chris Crandall
> >Glenn A Neumann (MYW...@prodigy.net) wrote:
> >
> >: Call me a sexist, but that's too many women on the show.
> >
> >OK, you're a sexist.
> >Three women out of 7 recurring major characters, and you're pissing your
> >pants. That fits the definition.
>
> 7? I count six
>
> But I see Glenn's point. Half the main characters are female, and we all
> know that's not true of the population at large.
Seven with the psychiatrist, Skoda.
As for "population at large", I believe women outnumber men, according to the
recent U.S. Census reports. There is one woman on the police force. One
woman ADA. And now a woman DA. Big whoop. That is not contrary to how real
life works. When I attended law school, there was a markedly minority of
women law students. Today when I go to court, women are at least half of the
attorneys and judges present. Considering the numbers of female attorneys out
there, one has to understand that eventually one will become the head DA. One
is a U.S. Supreme Court Justice, y'know?
You sexists will just have to deal with the new reality. Har.
One thing I have noticed about Dick Wolf productions over the years. He has
no fear of featuring strong, intelligent, capable women rather than typical
cookie-cutter, big-boobed, overdressed (or is that underdressed?) blondes.
And he is definitely not afraid of casting women in leadership roles in
professions where there traditionally are few women. I applaud him for this
strength of character, and the ability to go against the usual Hollywood
grain.
Dianne Wiest is an interesting choice for the new DA. I had a gut feeling
he'd go for a woman to replace Adam Schiff, but I hadn't considered Ms.
Wiest. I think she will bring a new dynamic to the show and I can't wait to
see what happens next season. As someone else noted, it does depend upon the
writers and what direction they will take the character. Ms. Wiest has the
acting chops to make the role work, however.
Nirvana for me will be that they manage to keep Sam Waterston in the cast. I
won't care what else happens on the show as long as I can watch him. Oh,
yeah. He da man!
Kaiju
--
Before you think, think.
Ken&Terry Marshall
(or will they have pissing contests?). I was really hoping for a strong
male actor, of James Earl Jones' caliber. Well, bottom line is,it's
just a tv show,gang; I have almost every episode on tape (somewhere)!!
Terry
VoxofaFox
Call me a sexist, but that's too many women on the show. Something has to
happen here to get this show back where it used to be, and I don't think
that this is it. >>
I was accused of being hormonal for mentioning this awhile back! Look out,
Glenn! HA!
I agree....there'll be McCoy sitting with Abbie, Van Buran and now "Law and
Order's" latest pick to round out McCoy's Angels.
::::ducking:::::::
Margie
Charles A Lieberman
Glenn A Neumann
>they should consider bringing in a male assistant to McCoy,
>somebody like Robinette, but not necessarily African-American.
Oh, so not only are there too many women, there are too many black
people.
kathe
pinpoint I find Dianne Wiest annoying. My fear is that she will
try to be grumpy like Adam but only succeed in making me want to
hit the mute button. I am willing to give her a chance- with
good writing she may be able to pull off a very challenging
transition.
Kathe
kitteridge
forgotten Edward Scissorhands! Thanks to whoever reminded me of that) and I
think she can easily play the kind of hardass they may need in that role.
I'm shocked by the Neanderthal comments made about women on the show, as if
this somehow "pussifies" the whole process (in more ways than one), and doesn't
reflect "reality" and therefore shouldn't be done. I shouldn't be shocked, but
I am -- I like to think of this show's viewers as a notch above in terms of
intelligence. Clearly, I'm mistaken.
However, anyone who thinks this show isn't going to undergo MAJOR renovations
in the next season is kidding himself/herself. We have two brand new Executive
Producers and a new character (admittedly in a supporting position, but
replacing an old favorite). The only way to approach the 11th season, in my
opinion, is with an open mind. Nothing is going to succeed or fail purely on
Dianne Wiest's ability to inhabit the role.
For those who can only complain and moan about the upcoming show, the best
advice is: Just watch the reruns.
Rant mode off.
Best,
Kitt
P.S. I'm just hoping Dianne Wiest's new DA character doesn't come out in her
second episode and say "I was raped by my gyn and do you like my lingere, Mr.
McCoy?"
***************************************
"Honey, why is the clown yelling at us?"
-- Marc Maron
http://members.aol.com/kitteridge
(remove "nospam" from email address to respond)
Dana Carpender
Don Porter wrote:
> Bryan Ganey wrote:
> >> I agree....waaayyyy too many women. If they are only going after women
> >> viewers, they should put the show on Lifetime, or maybe that new "Oxygen"
> >> channel.
>
> Dana Carpender <dcar...@kiva.net> wrote:
> > Because we all know that watching lots of men is interesting to both men *and*
> > women, but any show with more than a couple of token women properly appeals
> > only to women, right? Because women are inherently boring or something, I
> > guess.
>
> That about sums it up.
Gee, bet you're lots of fun on a date.
Dana Carpender
Bryan Ganey wrote:
> She had better be a conservative hardass, otherwise it'll just be more
> screechingly liberal pap we've come to expect.
You are aware, I trust, that NYC is a relatively liberal region of the
country? You want the show to be about NY, it's going to be somewhat liberal.
How about L&O in, say, Dallas?
RWGibson13
>>Three women out of 7 recurring major characters, and you're pissing your
>>pants. That fits the definition.
>
>7? I count six
They're counting Skoda, I believe.
Anyone bothered by the sex of the new DA and the gender distribution of the
cast can probably take comfort in the fact that by adding a women to the Order
part of the program, IMO they probably won't bring in a woman to partner in the
Law part of the show when Lenny or Green leave.
Or course, that might not happen for a looong time from now anyway, if we're
lucky.
I figure if the other cast changes haven't killed the show, this one won't
either. If I've learned anything in my seven years following this show, it's
that it thrives on WRITING and it'll be OK so long as the producers don't let
that part of the production slip too much.
RWG (and we don't get too many showboat episodes)
While the poets tell how Pancho fell
Lefty's livin' in a cheap hotel
The desert's quiet and Cleveland's cold
So the story ends, we're told.
The Late, Great Townes Van Zandt
Dana Carpender
Kaiju wrote:
> Charles A Lieberman wrote:
> >
> > 13 Jul 2000 17:44:34 GMT
> > Chris Crandall
> > >Glenn A Neumann (MYW...@prodigy.net) wrote:
> > >
> > >: Call me a sexist, but that's too many women on the show.
> > >
> > >OK, you're a sexist.
> > >Three women out of 7 recurring major characters, and you're pissing your
> > >pants. That fits the definition.
> >
> > 7? I count six
> >
> > But I see Glenn's point. Half the main characters are female, and we all
> > know that's not true of the population at large.
>
> Seven with the psychiatrist, Skoda.
>
> As for "population at large", I believe women outnumber men, according to the
> recent U.S. Census reports. There is one woman on the police force. One
> woman ADA. And now a woman DA. Big whoop. That is not contrary to how real
> life works. When I attended law school, there was a markedly minority of
> women law students. Today when I go to court, women are at least half of the
> attorneys and judges present. Considering the numbers of female attorneys out
> there, one has to understand that eventually one will become the head DA. One
> is a U.S. Supreme Court Justice, y'know?
Uh, two. Did you forget Sandra Day O'Connor, or Ruth Bader Ginsberg?
Carrie
kitte...@aol.comnospam (kitteridge) wrote:
>
> P.S. I'm just hoping Dianne Wiest's new DA character doesn't come out
in her
> second episode and say "I was raped by my gyn and do you like my
lingere, Mr.
> McCoy?"
Right, I'm hoping L&O's idea of a "mature" female
character is better than David Kelley's (ie, that
awful Holland Taylor character on "The Practice")
Carrie
Chris Crandall
: > Liberal? Conservative? Middle of the road? Pro/anti choice? Pro/anti
: > 2nd amendment? Pro/anti free speech? PC/or realist? Any thoughts at
: > all?
Bryan Ganey (Br...@Ganey.com) wrote:
: She had better be a conservative hardass, otherwise it'll just be more
: screechingly liberal pap we've come to expect.
Umm, if you're voting for "reality" you have to remember: This is
Manhattan. When was the last time a majority voted for a Republican? (And
of course, you know, Guiliani was voted in by the outer bouroughs, and not
by NY County.)
Chris Crandall
: I don't Know about that. The New York and Kings County DA now are Old Guys,
: and so are the other 3 county DA's as far as I know.
: I'll tell you this, I've never seen a ADA here in NY as good looking as the
: last 3 woman that Law and Order has on
Well, I know that the Bronx DA is not an Old Guy. Robert T. Johnson is in
his 50's, I think, serving his third four-year term. You can see him and
his office at:
Walt
<<Not that I think we need more office romance, but wouldn't it be a something
if Jack's new boss had an eye for *him* :)?>>
Do like that idea, and I was actually thinking along those lines when I thought
of Margaret Colin taking over as the DA, especially since she's 7-8 years
younger than Dianne Wiest. Now though, I like the idea better now of the new DA
actually being a longtime friend of Jack's ex-wife (the one who was his first
female assistant that he married in the mid-'80s, I still say he actually has
two ex-wives), with the new DA and is still very good friends with his ex (in
more a mentor-type way perhaps). As much as I still think Heather Locklear
would be great as the assistant who married Jack in a guest role (being she
would look like exactly the kind of woman a Jack in late 30s-early 40s would
have gone out with anyway at that time), maybe Margaret Colin could play that
ex in this scenario.
Walt
E-mail me at: Free...@juno.com
Walt
From what I've read, I suspect SW played a BIG role in getting DW to become the
new DA, especially since they have worked together on more than a few
occasions. Maybe working with her again keeps SW on the show longer than he
would otherwise.
Charles A Lieberman
Kaiju
>As for "population at large", I believe women outnumber men, according to the
>recent U.S. Census reports.
Yep
>One
>is a U.S. Supreme Court Justice, y'know?
Two
I refuse to respond to the rest of this ill-informed, polemical post.
Kaiju
Charles A Lieberman wrote:
>
> Fri, 14 Jul 2000 00:49:20 -0700
> Kaiju
> >As for "population at large", I believe women outnumber men, according to the
> >recent U.S. Census reports.
>
> Yep
>
> >One
> >is a U.S. Supreme Court Justice, y'know?
>
> Two
Take care. There may be three before you know it. I wonder what that would
do to upset the balance of gender power.
> I refuse to respond to the rest of this ill-informed, polemical post.
My, my. I wonder what I said that gored your ox?
PattyC4303
population at large.
Charles A. Lieberman
Actually, more than half the population of the U.S. are female (I believe it's
at least 51%).
Did you perhaps mean half the law enforcement/legal profession population?
Even then, it seems that the times are such that when an important job opens,
it is reasonable to consider a female for a traditionally male job. So even
with the idea that there are more men in the jobs in question, I don't fiind it
unrealistic to see a female "boss" coming in.
Besides, Dianne Weist is a great actress. AND we females have been watching
more men on all shows, in all sports, etc. forever. What's the harm in a tip
of the balance in this one case?
PattyC
Dana Carpender
PattyC4303 wrote:
> Half the main characters are female, and we all know that's not true of the
> population at large.
>
> Charles A. Lieberman
>
> Actually, more than half the population of the U.S. are female (I believe it's
> at least 51%).
>
> Did you perhaps mean half the law enforcement/legal profession population?
I thought he was joking?
Carrie
Kaiju <ka...@ecn.com> wrote:
>
>
> Charles A Lieberman wrote:
> >
> > Fri, 14 Jul 2000 00:49:20 -0700
> > Kaiju
> > >As for "population at large", I believe women outnumber men,
according to the
> > >recent U.S. Census reports.
> >
> > Yep
>
> > I refuse to respond to the rest of this ill-informed, polemical
post.
>
> My, my. I wonder what I said that gored your ox?
>
> Kaiju
>
I could be wrong, but I don't think he meant you.
David Coleman
that will her relationship with Carmichael be affected.
lavinia wrote in message <01e96307...@usw-ex0102-014.remarq.com>...
RWGibson13
>You are aware, I trust, that NYC is a relatively liberal region of the
>country? You want the show to be about NY, it's going to be somewhat
>liberal.
>
>How about L&O in, say, Dallas?
>--
Abbie would be right at home <g>
"This is the police! Stop or I'll reload!!!!"
RWG (oh, sorry, that IS the NYPD)
For workin', I'm too lazy
And for beggin', that's too slow
And train robbin', that's too dangerous
So to gamblin', did I go.
Consta
>
>Dianne Wiest was NOT in Independence Day.
>
Yes, actually she was.
She just wasn't in the big sci-fi movie of that title.
She WAS in the 1983 movie of the same name.
Consta
One can never have too many cats.
Ernest Hemingway
the...@my-deja.com
Bryan Ganey <Br...@Ganey.com> wrote:
> She had better be a conservative hardass, otherwise it'll just be more
> screechingly liberal pap we've come to expect.
Is McCoy a liberal? He seems to want to go for the death penalty, well,
at least some of the time.
And I know that you'll think this a troll, but I'm not so sure that
conservative is the opposite of liberal.
But it is true, L&O seems to be going down the liberal road more and
more.
Theget.
Bryan Ganey
I agree that the show is becoming more and more liberal....or at least it's
seemingly becoming that way. Some of it is ridiculous...like the episode
where he took the gun maker to court.
gi...@unspaminteraccess.com
wrote:
>I'm shocked by the Neanderthal comments made about women on the show, as if
>this somehow "pussifies" the whole process (in more ways than one), and doesn't
>reflect "reality" and therefore shouldn't be done. I shouldn't be shocked, but
>I am -- I like to think of this show's viewers as a notch above in terms of
>intelligence. Clearly, I'm mistaken.
I agee, my guess is that summer is troll season. I find it hard to
believe that the average L&O viewer has such problems with women in
power.
>However, anyone who thinks this show isn't going to undergo MAJOR renovations
>in the next season is kidding himself/herself. We have two brand new Executive
>Producers and a new character (admittedly in a supporting position, but
>replacing an old favorite). The only way to approach the 11th season, in my
>opinion, is with an open mind. Nothing is going to succeed or fail purely on
>Dianne Wiest's ability to inhabit the role.
And I think there's a good chance the show will improve greatly next
season with the new blood. The last season was pretty lackluster by
L&O standards, although still better than most of the shows on tv. So
here's to hoping for:
a) a chance for Martin to show what he can do
b) having the Brisco and Green do something clever to solve a crime
c) some good bantering between Brisco and Van Buren
d) no more 'arresting the wrong guy first', or 'rich people with
wierd sex lives plots', or any of the other L&O cliches being part of
the plot line.
e)thirty minutes of detectives in every episode
f)a complex, interesting character for Diane Weist to play.
giner
Walt
Like I said elsewhere, I'd like to see the new DA be an old friend of Jack's
ex-wife, perhaps dating back to well before she ever worked with Jack as an
assistant (before they married) in the mid-'80s and one who the DA is still
close to. That would make for some scenes between Jack and the new DA.
Luna
>Will be interesting to see how Jack McCoy deals with a woman boss
Can we please get away from her gender for a moment? Forget about that; it's
not really important. What I think will be interesting is the way Jack deals
with working under someone new, considering Adam's been his boss for most, if
not all, his career. If he's ever worked for anyone else, it hasn't been
recently. The change is obviously going to be difficult, and the dynamic of
the DA's office will be majorly altered, lady boss or not.
androgynously, luna
* "Are you gonna bark all day, little doggie - or are you gonna bite?"
--
"The world shall be cleansed with ice and floods, and I'll thank you
to keep to your own shelf in the refrigerator."
Rob
Hear!, Hear!
Thank you for saying what I have been thinking. Lennie has a great
working relationship with Anita ... so what's the big deal???
Ya know, it's starting to sound like the old Homicide group around here
- everyone over there got so hung up on the fact that Michael Michelle
joined the cast in Season 7, that they forgot all about the series.
Rob
Mhw61
>--
Abbie would be right at home <g>
Nope. Ya'll up in NYC are stuck with her. And my brother.
And, please, the last show did enough damage to my fair hometown's reputation.
Max
"Nonsense. They couldn't hit an elephant at this . . ."
--General John Sedgwick
Mhw61
Luna
>Ya know, it's starting to sound like the old Homicide group around here
>- everyone over there got so hung up on the fact that Michael Michelle
>joined the cast in Season 7, that they forgot all about the series.
...And so did producer Tom Fontana, who was so hung up on the fact that he had
a "fuckable" (his word, not mine) woman in his cast that he forgot to write a
half-decent show for a year. There's a total of about one, one and a half
episodes of Season 7 Homicide that are up to the standards of the first four
years of the show.
In other words, that's a bad example. It had nothing to do with the fact that
Michael Michelle was a woman added to the cast. It had to do with the fact
that she was a lousy actress in a badly-written role on what was a
badly-written show that year.
But for heaven's sake, is it so hard to wait and see and give Dianne Weist the
same chance that every other new cast member's been given?
impatiently, luna
* Tagline #212 in a series! Collect them all!
Luna
>How long has Jack worked under Adam's direction? Jack has only been
>the EADA for six years. Was he still working for Adam even before
>that? If so, how might he have done this?
There are more than one EADA. There are several, in fact. Ben was just the
one we followed until Jack replaced him. And even if he wasn't an EADA, he
would have been an ADA, and Adam would have still been his ultimate boss.
hierarchically, luna
* "He's no barbarian. He's a Renaissance man. Early Renaissance. Say
late Medieval period. Middle Ages. Feudalism - ow! I'm okay, I'm
okay...."
Rob
> >- everyone over there got so hung up on the fact that Michael Michelle
> >joined the cast in Season 7, that they forgot all about the series.
>
> ...And so did producer Tom Fontana, who was so hung up on the fact that he had
> a "fuckable" (his word, not mine) woman in his cast that he forgot to write a
> half-decent show for a year.
That is exactly my point ... you are very perceptive today :-)
> In other words, that's a bad example.
Thank you for correcting me. (you do a lot here, dontcha?)
> Michael Michelle was a woman added to the cast. It had to do with the fact
> that she was a lousy actress in a badly-written role on what was a
> badly-written show that year.
Eventually, someone will make a show that makes you happy ... hang in
there!
> But for heaven's sake, is it so hard to wait and see and give Dianne Weist the
> same chance that every other new cast member's been given?
Agreed 100%!
Rob
Canada
Walt
There may very well have been more than one EADA, but it's quite possible that
Ben was #2 in line (after Adam) until he resigned, with Jack #3 (and also, it
should be noted that Jack didn't get promoted to EADA, if he did, until the
middle of his relationship with Diana Hawthorne (from "Trophy"), which would
mean if Jack did become EADA, it was not until sometime in 1990).
Luna
> Jack didn't get promoted to EADA, if he did, until the
>middle of his relationship with Diana Hawthorne (from "Trophy"), which would
>mean if Jack did become EADA, it was not until sometime in 1990).
Right, but even as an ADA, ultimately he was still working under Adam for most
of if not his entire career in the prosecutor's office - which he also states
in "Trophy" has been at least twenty years.
So it won't be easy to get used to working under someone new after all that
time, that's what I'm saying. It'll be interesting, to say the least.
open-mindedly, luna
* Back, and to the left.... Back, and to the left....
Walt
You are right, except for one thing:
In the original 1988 pilot, the DA was Alfred Wentorth (played by Roy Thinnes).
Since 1988 was an election year for the DA in New York County (where I believe
they serve six year terms), Adam likely became DA at that point, either
defeating Wentworth or being the man Wentworth wanted to replace him. That
means, until the 1988 election, Jack (and Ben) actually worked with Wentworth
as his boss, and perhaps Adam was the EADA at that time, with Jack perhaps #4
and Ben #3 with Adam #2, and all moving up a slot when Adam became the DA.
Walt
<<How about L&O in, say, Dallas?>>
To which it was replied (I forget by who):
<<Abbie would be right at home <g>>>
And Max then said:
<<Nope. Ya'll up in NYC are stuck with her. And my brother. And, please, the
last show did enough damage to my fair hometown's reputation.>>
Actually, A while back on the <a href="aol://5863:126/mB:172385">AOL Law and
Order board,</a> we discussed the idea of an Abbie spinoff, where perhaps she
goes home to Texas and becomes DA of a small county there (forget who suggested
it there, but it was good one). That I think would make for an interesting
series.
Kaiju
Carrie wrote:
>
> In article <396F834A...@ecn.com>,
> Kaiju <ka...@ecn.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Charles A Lieberman wrote:
> > >
> > > Fri, 14 Jul 2000 00:49:20 -0700
> > > Kaiju
> > > >As for "population at large", I believe women outnumber men,
> according to the
> > > >recent U.S. Census reports.
> > >
> > > Yep
>
> >
> > > I refuse to respond to the rest of this ill-informed, polemical
> post.
> >
> > My, my. I wonder what I said that gored your ox?
> >
> > Kaiju
> >
>
> I could be wrong, but I don't think he meant you.
Could be. For the life of me I can't imagine what I wrote that could be that
objectionable to anyone. At least not this time. I thought what I wrote was
rather bland and benign, and probably not worthy of comment by anyone. It
definitely wasn't deserving of the comment that Lieberman added to it.
Oh, well.
Annikins
news:20000716181615...@ng-mb1.aol.com...
*smirk* Yeah, an interesting series with ONE viewer. That, of course,
being Mr. President of The Angie Harmon Fan Club, Walt.
-Ann
Consta
Adam has mentioned hiring Jack 25 years ago in one episode (the
militia one I think).
Wentworth doesn't really exist in the L&O world. He is in the first
episode, but that was the PILOT for the show. When it was picked up,
the DA was Schiff and he'd always been there.
It's ficiton, Walt. You don't have to try to logically explain every
little thing.
Luna
>Jack (and Ben) actually worked with Wentworth
>as his boss, and perhaps Adam was the EADA at that time, with Jack perhaps #4
>and Ben #3 with Adam #2, and all moving up a slot when Adam became the DA.
I always thought the show pretty much forgot Wentworth ever existed, and didn't
include him in the continuity. I don't think we've ever had mention of him
after the pilot episode, though we *have* had at least one reference to Frank
Hogan, Robert Morgenthau's predecessor....
continuously, luna
* "My name's Billy, and this is God. He made the world from void and
nothingness, but I'm better at marbles."
Consta
>*smirk* Yeah, an interesting series with ONE viewer. That, of course,
>being Mr. President of The Angie Harmon Fan Club, Walt.
>
>-Ann
>
No, Ann, I think it's a brilliant idea. I say they should do it as
SOON AS POSSIBLE. Spin it off, let Harmon star....
...because if she's in that series, she can't be on L&O...and that
would make many of us very, very happy.
Dana Carpender
Brian Barjenbruch wrote:
> > Wiest is known for her high profile roles in the Woody
> > Allen projects ``Hannah and Her Sisters创 and ``Bullets Over
> > Broadway创 (for which she won her Oscars and numerous other
> > awards) as well as ``Purple Rose of Cairo,创 ``Radio Days创 and
> > ``September.创 She earned an Oscar nomination for ``Parenthood创
> > and has also tackled a wide range of pivotal roles in such
> > diverse and critically-acclaimed films as ``The Horse
> > Whisperer,创 ``The Birdcage,创 ``Little Man Tate,创
> > ``Footloose,创 ``Independence Day,创 ``The Lost Boys,创 ``Edward
> > Scissorhands创 and ``Practical Magic.创
>
> Dianne Wiest was NOT in Independence Day.
Perhaps someone is thinking of Margaret Colin?
Me, I'm a fan of Margaret Colin's husband, Justin Deas. Wish my damn
soap opera would give him a plot, already.
Charles A Lieberman
Kaiju
>For the life of me I can't imagine what I wrote that could be that
>objectionable to anyone.
You were including me among the people objecting to Dianne Weist being a
woman. And there's a cumulative effect from people reading sarcasm and
appearing not to realize it.
--
Charles A. Lieberman | Taylor, you can't love a man with no head!
Brooklyn, New York, USA |
http://calieber.tripod.com/home.html
Mhw61
>SOON AS POSSIBLE. Spin it off, let Harmon star....
Yeah, only instead of sending her to Texas, you could do one about a former
DA/lifeguard/PI in California who pouts and wears bikinis while solving crimes.
Kaiju
Charles A Lieberman wrote:
>
> Sun, 16 Jul 2000 17:23:17 -0700
> Kaiju
> >For the life of me I can't imagine what I wrote that could be that
> >objectionable to anyone.
>
> You were including me among the people objecting to Dianne Weist being a
> woman. And there's a cumulative effect from people reading sarcasm and
> appearing not to realize it.
No, no, no! I wasn't including you in the sexist accusation! I was using
your post as a jumping off point, only. I also used the word "you" in the
rhetorical sense, or at least that was my intent. When I said there is "one
female Justice", I meant a woman is able to be a Justice. I mangled that one
badly, and I only caught it after the fact.
I could have been clearer, I admit. That's the danger of posting in the wee
hours of the morn following a very long, difficult week. I'll be more careful
in the future. I hope. Maybe.
D.F. Manno
<dcar...@kiva.net> wrote:
> Brian Barjenbruch wrote:
>
> > > Wiest is known for her high profile roles in the Woody
> > > Allen projects ``Hannah and Her Sisters创 and ``Bullets Over
> > > Broadway创 (for which she won her Oscars and numerous other
> > > awards) as well as ``Purple Rose of Cairo,创 ``Radio Days创 and
> > > ``September.创 She earned an Oscar nomination for ``Parenthood创
> > > and has also tackled a wide range of pivotal roles in such
> > > diverse and critically-acclaimed films as ``The Horse
> > > Whisperer,创 ``The Birdcage,创 ``Little Man Tate,创
> > > ``Footloose,创 ``Independence Day,创 ``The Lost Boys,创 ``Edward
> > > Scissorhands创 and ``Practical Magic.创
> >
> > Dianne Wiest was NOT in Independence Day.
>
> Perhaps someone is thinking of Margaret Colin?
>
> Me, I'm a fan of Margaret Colin's husband, Justin Deas. Wish my damn
> soap opera would give him a plot, already.
Dianne Wiest was in "Independence Day," just not the "Independence Day"
you're thinking of.
This one was made in 1983, and is described in Leonard Maltin's film guide
as an "interesting but unfocused little picture about a young woman who's
aching to leave her claustrophobic hometown but held back (in part) by
romance with car mechanic." Wiest plays a battered wife in a subplot.
--
D.F. Manno
domm...@netscape.net
"If we didn't laugh we would all go insane." -- Jimmy Buffett
Walt
<<Yeah, only instead of sending her to Texas, you could do one about a former
DA/lifeguard/PI in California who pouts and wears bikinis while solving
crimes.>>
Now you're really being ridiculous. The idea of Abbie returning to her home
state to become DA of a small county can make for some very good drama. I
seriously doubt we'll ever see Abbie solving crimes while wearing a bathing
suit and/or pouting about it while doing so (though on "L & O", you
<I>could</I> do a scene similar to Robinette's in the "slumlord" episode where
Abbie has to take the place of a female version of Profaci who is stuck in
traffic and.....).
Walt
Actually, since NBC did air the original pilot as part of the 1990-'91 season
(though it was not the first episode to actually air), Wentworth should be a
part of the storyline, whether Dick Wolf wants to include him or not.
As noted before, It's very possible Schiff was a two-term DA, either defeating
Wentworth or being the man Wentworth asked to suceed him, with that happening
in the 1988 elections. That makes the most sense if you include the pilot
episode, which is what I would be including in this case.
As far as Adam, I believe in "Aftershock" it was noted he was a defense
attorney in 1971 when he wrote a brief arguing against the Death Penalty, so
it's quite possible Jack and Adam joined the DAs office at the same time (it
was noted in some episode Jack joined the DAs office in 1976).
Katy IJL
>
>Now you're really being ridiculous
Who do you think you are, calling someone else ridiculous? Look at the pot
calling the kettle black. I'm assuming that Max was being sarcastic, since no
way in hell could Angie Harmon carry a series.
Katy
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Consta
>
>Now you're really being ridiculous.
There is an irony in this that I'm sure escapes you.
Consta, who snorted her Dr Pepper when she read it
Gidget
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She not only plays a battered wife in the subplot. She is the only thing in
the movie that makes it memorable. I saw the film back in the 1980s and
found it trite, but Dianne Wiest was mesmerizing. I remembered her name and
her face. Ms. Wiest will probably paint a new district attorney who is
deliciously intelligent and complex, all the things that Mr. Hill has been
all these years. While Mr. Hill will be missed, I eagerly anticipate the
contributions of the new distaff DA.
Belinda
Adrianne Purtell
>
> I don't Know about that. The New York and Kings County DA now are Old Guys,
> and so are the other 3 county DA's as far as I know.
> I'll tell you this, I've never seen a ADA here in NY as good looking as the
> last 3 woman that Law and Order has on
That's true. The ADA's I see here in Albany all look like guys in
women's suits. That should please the people on here that think there
are too many ladies on L&O = )
Adrianne
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Adrianne Purtell
>
> So, what do you think, guys??? Cat fights between Abbie and the new DA
> (or will they have pissing contests?). I was really hoping for a strong
> male actor, of James Earl Jones' caliber. Well, bottom line is,it's
> just a tv show,gang; I have almost every episode on tape (somewhere)!!
> Terry
I was thinking of cat fights between the new DA and McCoy. That would
be interesting, I think. With Abbie taking the side of the DA without
really saying that she is ...
I'm looking forward to the new cast member. Even if I don't have a
clue who she is because I've never seen any of her movies.
Adrianne Purtell
>
> I'm not too pleased with the choice- for reasons I cannot
> pinpoint I find Dianne Wiest annoying. My fear is that she will
> try to be grumpy like Adam but only succeed in making me want to
> hit the mute button. I am willing to give her a chance- with
> good writing she may be able to pull off a very challenging
> transition.
> Kathe
Please tell me she doesn't whine! She doesn't whine does she!?
Adrianne Purtell
> How about L&O in, say, Dallas?
> Dana W. Carpender
Oh that would be a comedy!
Adrianne Purtell
>
> David:
>
> Like I said elsewhere, I'd like to see the new DA be an old friend of Jack's
> ex-wife, perhaps dating back to well before she ever worked with Jack as an
> assistant (before they married) in the mid-'80s and one who the DA is still
> close to. That would make for some scenes between Jack and the new DA.
::Kicks her record player hoping that it will stop skipping::
Adrianne
<::Holding her head::>
Adrianne Purtell
> Nope. Ya'll up in NYC are stuck with her. And my brother.
> And, please, the last show did enough damage to my fair hometown's reputation.
>
Would that be Walker Texas Ranger ; )
Adrianne
Annikins
> Max said to my earlier ideas:
>
> <<Yeah, only instead of sending her to Texas, you could do one about a
former
> DA/lifeguard/PI in California who pouts and wears bikinis while solving
> crimes.>>
>
BWAHAHAHAHA! <wipes tears from eyes>
> The idea of Abbie returning to her home
> state to become DA of a small county can make for some very good drama. I
> seriously doubt we'll ever see Abbie solving crimes while wearing a
bathing
> suit
Poor Walt, I know you're disappointed.
> and/or pouting about it while doing so (though on "L & O", you
> <I>could</I> do a scene similar to Robinette's in the "slumlord" episode
where
> Abbie has to take the place of a female version of Profaci who is stuck in
> traffic and.....).
A female version of Profaci? What in the HELL are you talking about? OK,
it's been established that you are obssessed with Angie Harmon, but why must
every single classic L&O moment or episode should be turned into an
Abbie-sode? It is not plausible that her character experiences ANY of these
ideas, nor is the actress strong enough to carry any of these stories. GIVE
IT UP! You seem to be intent with turning L&O into a parody of itself - The
Angie Harmon Hour. <shudder> Consta's right, give the girl her own series,
just anything to get her off L&O.
-Ann (who is freezing in 66 degree Seattle)
paul cook
Pot , meet kettle. ;)
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Mhw61
>
> Would that be Walker Texas Ranger ; )
>
>Adrianne
Ouch. I had managed to block that one from my mind completely.
You are a cruel, cruel person.
Max
goosey
> Call me a sexist,
Okay, you are a sexist............and an idiot.