Skoda vs. Olivet
Bluskiddoo
shared my feelings on the L&O shrinks.....I was watching the 3/24 episode and
when they mentioned "our psychiatrist", I found myself hoping it was Skoda, and
that they hadn't made another change. I realized I *much* prefer the Skoda
character to Elizabeth Olivet.... She always seemed sort of whiny and petulant
to me, and he's much more straightforward and easygoing. Plus, I think he's
sorta sexy, too! JMHO!! Amy
IMP BWX
much better than she was.
-jason
Constance Jenkins
I also prefer Skoda to Olivet. I liked Olivet well enough, though on
a couple of episodes I thought they'd written her a bit too
emotionally charged to be objective.
Not sure I agree with you about him being sexy <G>, but he is
certainly compelling.
Consta
Chris Crandall
: I also prefer Skoda to Olivet. I liked Olivet well enough, though on
: a couple of episodes I thought they'd written her a bit too
: emotionally charged to be objective.
As a psychologist, I'm not too fond of either. Both of them are too
sure about their diagnoses on far too little data.
But Ms. McCormack has an appealling vulnerability as an actress. The
problem with her character is that she was sometimes a psychologist, and
sometimes a psychiatrist. Pyschiatrists are rarely extensively trained in
psychotherapy (with the exception of a handful of Freudian
psychoanalysts). Instead, they are far more likely to be versed in
pharmaceuticals and neurology. (As a general rule.)
Still, they avoid the hoary cliche' of making the psychologist out to
be craizer than his/her patient. I know a lot of psychologists, and only
a small handful of them are particularly neurotic. Like any other
profession.
AKitty8883
>I was just thinking about this the other night, and wondered if anyone else
>shared my feelings on the L&O shrinks.....I was watching the 3/24 episode and
>when they mentioned "our psychiatrist", I found myself hoping it was Skoda,
and
>that they hadn't made another change. I realized I *much* prefer the Skoda
>character to Elizabeth Olivet.... She always seemed sort of whiny and
petulant
Whiny? I dunno. To me, she was just...there. I always thought she was there
just to give a diagnosis and then leave. Half the time, I don't even remember
her being in an episode I'm watching.
>to me, and he's much more straightforward and easygoing. Plus, I think he's
>sorta sexy, too! JMHO!! Amy
Sexy? I like Skoda (he's so confident and isn't sympathetic to criminals with a
sob story), but to me, he reminds me (in looks, voice, and demeanor) like
Weasel from I.M. Weasel (a character from that psychotic cartoon show Cow &
Chicken). My favorite Skoda appearance was Season 8, when that mob boss was
faking senility and he smoked him out. They should do a spin-off show with him.
Creighton Rabs
imp...@aol.com (IMP BWX) wrote:
> I would agree with that...Olivet always just kinda bugged me. Skoda's written
> much better than she was.
Plus, I believe the person who plays Skoda appeared in the 4th (maybe 5th)
season as a different character. It's probably at the L&O "repeat offenders"
web site.
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Constance Jenkins wrote in message <36fb96d...@news.mindspring.com>...
>
>I also prefer Skoda to Olivet. I liked Olivet well enough, though on
>a couple of episodes I thought they'd written her a bit too
>emotionally charged to be objective.
>
>certainly compelling.
>
Personally, i find him a much better Psych than Olivet,more down-yo-Earth i
guess. Also,check out J.K. Simmons as the vile Neo-Nazi on Oz. He's down
right devilish.
Sun God_Ra
favorite scene of hers is in the 3 parter, where she's tearing into that
psychologist to the stars. That was a great moment for her.
I also like Skoda, especially when he told somebody (I forget who) that what he was
saying was a lot of whiny garbage, or something to that effect. Maybe the ep where
the guy tried to kill his mother, whom he was also sleeping with?
Howard Pearson
AKitty8883 wrote:
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weather, and 2, corn becomes your enemy."
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William December Starr
Creighton Rabs <ctr...@hotmail.com> said:
> Plus, I believe the person who plays Skoda appeared in the 4th
> (maybe 5th) season as a different character. It's probably at the
> L&O "repeat offenders" web site.
Before playing Skoda, J.K. Simmons was probably best known to Law &
Order-philes for playing the evil "Col. Rausch" in the "Homicide" half
of the first of the L&O/Homicide two-part crossovers back in '96. In
point of fact he wasn't in the L&O half of the story (as is always the
case with these things, the story started on L&O and concluded on
Homicide), but he did share some scenes with some of the L&O
characters who were visiting Baltimore on business.
(Incidentally, Carolyn McCormick, who played Skoda's predecessor,
Olivet, recurringly on L & O for seasons 2 through 7, also appeared
on Homicide once, playing the unsuspecting wife of a sniper who was
terrorizing the city with killings at precise eight-hour intervals.)
Simmons' only other L&O appearance was what I remember (_very_
vaguely) as a bit part as "Jerry Luppin, video technician" in
"Sanctuary," the 1994 episode described in the Lemaster & Ashley
episode guide (http://www.xnet.com/~djk/LawandOrder_2.shtml) as
follows:
A black minister fans the flames of racial intolerance after a
hit-and-run in harlem claims the life of a 12-year-old and the
Jewish driver isn't indicted.
I remember that in that story a racially motivated mob attack is
caught by a tv camera crew; I guess Luppin was the guy back at the
news studio running the tape for the detectives and enlarging part of
the picture. Whoopee.
-- William December Starr <wds...@crl.com>
Constance Jenkins
>Personally, i find him a much better Psych than Olivet,more down-yo-Earth i
>guess. Also,check out J.K. Simmons as the vile Neo-Nazi on Oz. He's down
>right devilish.
>
I did...and he was SO good, I couldn't watch it. He gave me the
heeby-jeebies.
I'm not a big fan of Oz (prison movies/shows do nothing for me), but I
did watch it to catch him and Edie....argh...whose last name escapes
me (she played Sally Bell on L&O).
Consta, suffering from brain drain tonight
CopWriter1
> Maybe the ep where
>the guy tried to kill his mother, whom he was also sleeping with?
Yeah. "Venom" was the title.
Diane Gilcreast
William December Starr (wds...@crl.com) writes:
<snip>
> Olivet, recurringly on L & O for seasons 2 through 7, also appeared
> on Homicide once, playing the unsuspecting wife of a sniper who was
> terrorizing the city with killings at precise eight-hour intervals.)
More or less interesting, you decide, Carolyn McCormick and Byron Jennings
are perhaps the only wife and husband team to appear on both L&O and
H:LOTS. Jennings was the father in "God Bless the Child" and was in
"Corpus Delicti" (was that the horse one? or one of the LA ones?) on the
L&O side. He was the headmaster in the "The True Test" episode of H:LOTS
(Elijah Wood goes bad).
Diane
Creighton Rabs
Yes, Yes!!! I remember that one. I saw it on A&E the other day!!!
I also recall it because of "Miss Sham-ba-la Green" as (Ben was so fond of
calling her) being threatened with sanctions by the judge for one of her
over-dramatic presentations.
Creighton Rabs
di...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Diane Gilcreast) wrote:
> More or less interesting, you decide, Carolyn McCormick and Byron Jennings
> are perhaps the only wife and husband team to appear on both L&O and
> H:LOTS. Jennings was the father in "God Bless the Child" and was in
> "Corpus Delicti" (was that the horse one? or one of the LA ones?)
That was the horse case episode. From the episode guide:
"The death of a show horse leads to a trial involving insurance fraud, a sting
operation and a wealthy woman's disappearance."
Scott Goehring
Bluskiddoo> I was watching the 3/24 episode and when they mentioned
Bluskiddoo> "our psychiatrist", I found myself hoping it was Skoda,
Bluskiddoo> and that they hadn't made another change. I realized I
Bluskiddoo> *much* prefer the Skoda character to Elizabeth Olivet....
Skoda reminds me of an instructor I had a few years ago (and really
liked).
--
"The dividing line between 'aesthetically unpleasing' and 'ruined' can
probably be found in Gary, Indiana." -- Mark Meiss
Brian Barjenbruch
> calling her) being threatened with sanctions by the judge for one of her
> over-dramatic presentations.
Which turned out to be her last appearance on the show, didn't it?
Maybe those sanctions had a lasting effect. We can only hope. :)
--
"Its origin and purpose...still a total mystery."
- Dr. Heywood Floyd, "2001: A Space Odyssey"
Ms Mog
did watch it to catch him and Edie....argh...whose last name escapes
me (she played Sally Bell on L&O).>>
Falco. Edie Falco. She also plays the wife on "The Sopranos." And she's
currently in the Broadway play, "Sideman."
Fruitseed
>From: akitt...@aol.com (AKitty8883)
>Date: 3/26/99 12:41 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <19990326124115...@ng16.aol.com>
>
>blusk...@aol.com (Bluskiddoo) wrote:
>
>>I was just thinking about this the other night, and wondered if anyone else
>and
>>when they mentioned "our psychiatrist", I found myself hoping it was Skoda,
>and
>>that they hadn't made another change. I realized I *much* prefer the Skoda
>>character to Elizabeth Olivet.... She always seemed sort of whiny and
>petulant
>
>Whiny? I dunno. To me, she was just...there. I always thought she was there
>just to give a diagnosis and then leave. Half the time, I don't even remember
>her being in an episode I'm watching.
>
>>to me, and he's much more straightforward and easygoing. Plus, I think he's
>>sorta sexy, too! JMHO!! Amy
>
>Sexy? I like Skoda (he's so confident and isn't sympathetic to criminals with
>a
>sob story), but to me, he reminds me (in looks, voice, and demeanor) like
>Weasel from I.M. Weasel (a character from that psychotic cartoon show Cow &
>Chicken). My favorite Skoda appearance was Season 8, when that mob boss was
>faking senility and he smoked him out. They should do a spin-off show with
>him.
>
>
>
>
>
>
After reading these posts, it occurred to me that J.K. Simmons' Skoda would
have been a better American-style "Cracker." I loved the British forensic
psychiatrist series and hated the American copy (in which, incidentally,
Carolyn McCormick played the wife).
M.D. North
in on!
Virginia Hughes
interested that not one mentioned the thing that made me sick and tired
of Olivet after liking her quite a lot for many episodes. That was, and
is, her over-exposure in the Nicorette commercials. After hearing her
quite distinctive voice repeat the same lines about a hundred times she
was no longer convincing or entertaining as a medical professional (even
if the product IS healthy). Has anyone else reacted this way?
I realize that lots of actors have to supplement their acting role
incomes with occasional ad stints, but see a real danger for them in a
campaign that goes on as long as this one has. I agree with many posters
in preferring Skoda, for my part for his slightly world-weary persona,
and hope he doesn't sign a big contract to push dental floss or
Metamucil.
AKitty8883
>I agree with many posters
>in preferring Skoda, for my part for his slightly world-weary persona,
>and hope he doesn't sign a big contract to push dental floss or
>Metamucil.
Then let's hope they give this guy a raise or put him on contract status. Don't
you know how expensive it is to live in New York City? I'm sure most actors
don't want to openly talk about constipation or maxi pads on national
television. It's a livng.
D.F. Manno
And I prefer McCormack (Olivet) as a actor.
--
D.F. Manno
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"If we didn't laugh we would all go insane." -- Jimmy Buffett
Jeanna H
shampoo unless he gets hair first :o)
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Bill & Cynthia O'Connell
<1987-37...@newsd-264.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
I read every post in the relatively long Skoda/Olivet thread and was
interested that not one mentioned the thing that made me sick and tired
of Olivet after liking her quite a lot for many episodes. That was, and
I'm sorry and I don't mean to split hairs, but...
It always worries me when a poster--for whatever reason--declines to make a
distinction between the actor and the character portrayed, *Olivet* has
made no endorsement of any product of which I'm aware; the actor who
*played* Olivet has.
IIRC, the Nicorette campaign began *after* McCormack left the series, but
even if it hadn't I say "More power to her."
As to Skoda vs. Olivet: I like 'em both. I am more apt to laugh at Skoda's
right-on-the-money observations and his no-BS attitude, but Olivet was an
interesting character in other ways. She was no doormat, that's for sure.
Bill O'Connell
Virginia Hughes
by stating that the Nicorette campaign began after her departure from
the show. Since the A and E reruns in effect keep her appearing almost
'endlessly', we here who comment are also in a kind of time warp, and
our reactions are in real time. Sure, she has a right to earn that ad
dollar, but to the extent that boredom with her induced by those
repetitive ads reduces her draw to the show, she has to "answer' for
reactions like mine, unless I'm the only person in the country who has
them.
I don't "decline' to differentiate between the actress and the
character, and certainly don't labor under any misapprehension that
Olivet endorses Nicorette. If Michael Moriarty suddenly started
appearing several times a day doing ads for Depends, wouldn't that be to
at least some degree distracting? I can't believe that it wouldn't.
After all, many actors refuse to play gay characters in the belief that
such may taint them forever with the public. Why are ad appearances any
different in their potential?
Igor Stone
If I had to choose, I'd sleep with Olivet. (No offense, Skoda, but
you're too hairy!)
Creighton Rabs
Jeanna H <j...@home.com> wrote:
> Al least we won't see Cragen (in his own words) doing commercials for
> shampoo unless he gets hair first :o)
Of course not... he's too busy doing commercials for brokerage houses... =)
Bill & Cynthia O'Connell
Bill O'Connell reacted to my comments about McCormack's ad appearances
by stating that the Nicorette campaign began after her departure from
the show.
(Actually I said, "IIRC." i.e. If I recall correctly)...
Since the A and E reruns in effect keep her appearing almost
'endlessly', we here who comment are also in a kind of time warp, and
our reactions are in real time. Sure, she has a right to earn that ad
dollar, but to the extent that boredom with her induced by those
repetitive ads reduces her draw to the show, she has to "answer' for
reactions like mine, unless I'm the only person in the country who has
them.
OK. First, I'm relieved that you're not one of those who *can't* make the
distinction between actor and character. Second, Carolyn McCormick
played--for several seasons--a minor recurring character on L+O. How does
that require her to "answer" for the Nicorette spots? I don't understand
your reasoning here. And if the ads are repetitive as you claim, the
responsibility for that is hardly hers. In your view, is she only allowed
to do regional--as opposed to national--commercials, or required to
determine beforehand just how much exposure she's likely to receive in a
national campaign, so as not to do damage to the credibility of a character
she *used* to play? That's a tad unrealistic, wouldn't you say? And in any
case, from an actor's point-of-view, the more exposure the better.
I don't "decline' to differentiate between the actress and the
character, and certainly don't labor under any misapprehension that
Olivet endorses Nicorette. If Michael Moriarty suddenly started
appearing several times a day doing ads for Depends, wouldn't that be to
at least some degree distracting?
Nope.
I can't believe that it wouldn't.
After all, many actors refuse to play gay characters in the belief that
such may taint them forever with the public.
I'm sorry, but what planet are you from? What does refusal to play gay
characters have to do with appearing in commercials? We're not talking
about Mr. Whipple in the Charmin spots here.
Why are ad appearances any
different in their potential?
A better question is, Why do *you* think they are the same?
Bill O'Connell
Igor Stone
I dunno about any of this, but I do know I'd STILL rather sleep with
Olivet... Skoda is a manimal!!!
Virginia Hughes
my original post here on this topic, I began not to enjoy Carolyn
McCormack as Olivet after weeks and weeks of seeing her several times a
day in a Nicorette ad (and a very stupidly written one to boot, but
that's another gripe); and because in a subsequent post I suggested
that actors sometimes decline gay roles so as not to "compromise" their
images with a reaction in the public which I would consider similar,
though wider and more serious in political nature and scope (on my
planet, but the air is so thin up here), to the one I originally
expressed.
When I remarked that McCormack has to "answer" for any possible
reaction in the public when she supplements her income with ad roles, I
meant that once she makes a commercial she takes the chance that due to
sponsor and agency policies beyond her control she may long be
identified for good or ill with the ad and the product, to the detriment
of her later serious roles. I was not planning to sue the woman, Mr.
O'Connell.
.The origin of this thread was about preferences between Olivet and
Skoda. I expressed mine, and wondered why no one else shared it. You
don't. How nice for you, not to be so foolishly sensitive.
The Mayor of Simpleton
I just want to say that Skoda has grown on me. He's a lot more
pragmatic and inventive that Olivet ever was, and in that way, he seems to
be a better resource for the team...I'm thinking in particular of his
analysis of the "vegetable" mob boss, who was merely faking his
feeblemindedness to avoid being competent for trial. He played the son off
the father, indirectly, catching on videotape the old man dropping his
act.
bilal
thinks he's better as schillinger, though
"They say the next big thing is here/ that the revolution's near/ but to
me it seems quite clear/ that it's all just a little bit of history
repeating."
- Propellerheads w/ Miss Shirley Bassey
"History Repeating"
Bill & Cynthia O'Connell
Bill O'Connell suggests that I am from another planet because, to sum up
my original post here on this topic, I began not to enjoy Carolyn
McCormack as Olivet after weeks and weeks of seeing her several times a
day in a Nicorette ad (and a very stupidly written one to boot, but
that's another gripe); and because in a subsequent post I suggested
that actors sometimes decline gay roles so as not to "compromise" their
images with a reaction in the public which I would consider similar,
though wider and more serious in political nature and scope (on my
planet, but the air is so thin up here), to the one I originally
expressed.
It appears from the lack of response from anyone else that Carolyn
McCormick's alleged conflict of interest bothers no one in this ng. That's
probably because most everyone does not perceive a conflict of interest and
can very easily distinguish between Ms. McCormick's separate roles as
"actor" and "pitchperson."
When I remarked that McCormack has to "answer" for any possible
reaction in the public when she supplements her income with ad roles, I
meant that once she makes a commercial she takes the chance that due to
sponsor and agency policies beyond her control she may long be
identified for good or ill with the ad and the product, to the detriment
of her later serious roles. I was not planning to sue the woman, Mr.
O'Connell.
I didn't imply that you were. But if you meant all the above, then you
should have said "McCormick *may* have to answer for any possible
reaction...etc." Since I am not sensing even in this group of L+O fans a
groundswell of outrage at her association with Nicorette, I think she need
have no fear about future serious roles coming her way. As I said before,
this is not a case of Mr. Whipple squeezing the Charmin.
.The origin of this thread was about preferences between Olivet and
Skoda. I expressed mine, and wondered why no one else shared it. You
don't. How nice for you, not to be so foolishly sensitive.
Actually you completely changed the subject of this thread from Olivet vs
Skoda to your assertion that Ms. McCormick has ruined her career by being a
spokesperson for Nicorette. And you don't have to wonder why no one else
shares your view, because it is not "sensitive," "foolish" or otherwise. It
is simply "groundless."
Bill O'Connell
Virginia Hughes
McCorm_A_ck's commercial adventure: I did NOT change the subject of this
thread. One more time; it is/was on opinions about the
characters/actors, and mine involves her execrable taste in appearing in
a moronic ad written by cretins. My opinion, as solicited, not shared,
later defended, and still held.
End of debate.
Kathleen Wyatt
of commercial. After all, she is certainly not the first or only one to do
so. I have always liked her on the show and was sorry to see her leave.
Kathy W.
Bill & Cynthia O'Connell wrote in message
<7ec605$sj3$1...@mtinsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
Igor Stone
How does this end the debate? Olivet only won by ONE VOTE over
Skoda! COME ON! I can't believe that many of you would choose to sleep
with that hairy hair monster over the tastefully non-smoking Olivet!
Bill & Cynthia O'Connell
Just one last comment to Bill O'Connell on our little debate about
McCorm_A_ck's commercial adventure: I did NOT change the subject of this
thread.
I believe she spells it "McCormick." And yes you did.
One more time; it is/was on opinions about the
characters/actors, and mine involves her execrable taste in appearing in
a moronic ad written by cretins. My opinion, as solicited, not shared,
later defended, and still held.
So now the Nicorette ads are "moronic" and Ms. McCormick's participation in
them displays "execrable taste." Only the president of a tobacco
company--or the victim of big tobacco (like some poor soul who smokes three
packs a day)--could find the Nicorette spots as horrible as you do. Of
course, you are welcome to to your opinion. And everyone else in this group
is welcome to scratch their heads at your unwarranted vehemence and conclude
that your view has no basis in fact. You have offered no opinion about the
subject of this thread, i.e. the relative merits of the characters Skoda and
Olivet. You have simply excoriated Carolyn McCormick's appearance in
Nicorette ads. And you don't even say--although I suppose it would be
completely off-topic--WHY you believe the spots were written by "cretins."
End of debate.
I'll say!
Bill O'Connell
The Mayor of Simpleton
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Igor Stone wrote:
> >a moronic ad written by cretins. My opinion, as solicited, not shared,
> >later defended, and still held.
> >End of debate.
>
> How does this end the debate? Olivet only won by ONE VOTE over
> Skoda! COME ON! I can't believe that many of you would choose to sleep
> with that hairy hair monster over the tastefully non-smoking Olivet!
Oh, is *that* what the argument was about? Well, if that's the
case, I'm not sure I'd go with either of them. Something about sleeping
with psychologists raises feelings of dread in me.
"You know, that position seems to indicate a genuine fear of
inferiority."
bilal
will admit that olivet was the hot one
Ms Mog
commercials are, etc. etc. etc.]
May I suggest that we all just stop watching so much freakin' televison and
read a book?
MsM, (English teacher mode <ON>)
Chris Crandall
: Something about sleeping with psychologists raises feelings of dread in
: me.
I do it almost every night. So does my wife.
No dread at all, I assure you.
Psychologists are just people with Ph.D.'s.
Virginia Hughes
Although "De gustibus non est disputandum" isn't a legal phrase, I'm
still surprised he doesn't acknowledge its validity.
He carps that I haven't explained why I hold that McCormack
tarnished her luster as an actress by appearing in a stupidly written ad
for Nicorette and having carped, weasels that his question and of course
any answer are again off topic Clever debating tactic, O'Connell .
It was written by incompetents, that's why, and even the agency
itself later realized it, as it was ultimately altered and a jerry-built
correction inserted. Her final lines about the product were, "The power
to calm, the power to comfort, the power to quit." Parallel structure,
but not parallel reference, since Nicorette may calm and comfort, but it
doesn't quit doing anything, the smoker does. McCormack later did a
voice-over changing the lines to,'The power to colm, the power to
comfort, the power to help you quit." Dumb, sloppy, and tacky all
around. The fact is, O'Connell, that this entire
newsgroup is about a TV show, you know? If a topic is about two minor
characters/actors, how deep do the rules say we must get? One poster's
comment about Skoda was that he's hairy. I did respond about Skoda as a
character, and about C McC as an actress. YOU were the one not content
to let MY opinion stand as MY opinion and differ or not as you chose,
and insinuated that I'm so stupid as not to differentiate between
actress and character "for whatever reason". I do tend to get vehement
about snide and paranoid insinuations.
Now. lest we inflict on other readers here any more ot the "did not"
" did too" tactics to which you stoopid in your last post. let's agree
to disagree in silence.
If an O'Connell posts in a forest and a Hughes doesn't read it, did
he say anything? Debate THAT.
Chris Crandall
It's just a personal argument.
Bill & Cynthia O'Connell
Sorry, folks, but I did try to end this "debate" with Mr.O'Connell.
It's ending right here. Except that I must point out this poster's habit of
not quoting at all from previous posts. Talk about questionable usenet
"debating" practice!
He carps that I haven't explained why I hold that McCormack
(it's still "McCormick"...)
tarnished her luster as an actress by appearing in a stupidly written ad
for Nicorette and having carped, weasels that his question and of course
any answer are again off topic Clever debating tactic, O'Connell .
You know, *I* never addressed this poster personally, much less by her last
name only.
It was written by incompetents, that's why, and even the agency
itself later realized it, as it was ultimately altered and a jerry-built
correction inserted. Her final lines about the product were, "The power
to calm, the power to comfort, the power to quit." Parallel structure,
but not parallel reference, since Nicorette may calm and comfort, but it
doesn't quit doing anything, the smoker does. McCormack later did a
voice-over changing the lines to,'The power to colm, the power to
comfort, the power to help you quit." Dumb, sloppy, and tacky all
around.
First we've all heard this. In newspaper parlance, that's called "burying
the lead." But it still does not explain your vehemence about McCormick
appearing in the spots.
The fact is, O'Connell, that this entire newsgroup is about a TV show,
you know?
Hey! Something we agree on! So why are you talking about a TV *commercial*?
If a topic is about two minor characters/actors, how deep do the rules say
we must get? One poster's comment about Skoda was that he's hairy. I did
respond about Skoda as a character, and about C McC as an actress. YOU were
the one not content
to let MY opinion stand as MY opinion and differ or not as you chose,
I questioned the foundation of your opinion, not the opinion itself. You
haven't seen fit to offer any specifics until now (the bit above about a
copy correction). And since the specifics you mention cast no shadow at all
on Carolyn McCormick, I continue to believe that the low opinions you have
of her and her job for Nicorette have no basis in fact.
and insinuated that I'm so stupid as not to differentiate between
actress and character "for whatever reason". I do tend to get vehement
about snide and paranoid insinuations.
No, you got vehement about the style and substance of the Nicorette spots.
Now. lest we inflict on other readers here any more ot the "did not"
" did too" tactics to which you stoopid in your last post. let's agree
to disagree in silence. [snip final insult, because, after all, what's the
point?]
Hey! Something else we agree on!
Bill O'Connell
Bill & Cynthia O'Connell
>Could we end this thread?
>It's just a personal argument.
Sorry. Done.
Bill O'Connell
Jeanna H
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Willem Becker
Skoda/Olivet thread and was interested that not one mentioned the thing
that made me sick and tired of Olivet after liking her quite a lot for
many episodes. That was, and is, her over-exposure in the Nicorette
commercials."
Geez, lady, this is a crass, crude society in which a former candidate
for the highest office in the land, and who's a bigger actor than that,
shills for an impotence cure, and you worry about some bimbo actress and
her dim-wit sell-out enough to argue with yahoos with the sensibilities
of a Sheman tank? I noted a thread back a ways in this intellectual
penny arcade with over 50 posts on "How I got into Land O". What did
you expect here, a Mensa seminar on aesthetics?
Mencken was right. Get over it.
Snarky
But I do like Skoda better than Olivet, maybe because he seems to be better
able to avoid taking investigations personally.
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