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paul cook

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Jul 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/13/00
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Now that we know that Adam is leaving us, what are the guesses for how
they'll explain his departure? Personally, I hope they don't try to
tie it into the unkown verdict in "Vaya Con Dios" but I recall someone
making the threat to Adam that an adverse decision could hurt him at
the polls. I don't think the voters would give a warm bucket of spit
over that case and so I doubt that would ever cost him his job. So...

Illness? Surely NOT death? Just ready to retire?

Perhaps Steven will do a guest shot early in the season to bring some
kind of closure to his character. He (and Adam) deserve to go out on
a better note than Vaya, imo.


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Patricia H.

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Jul 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/14/00
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In article <8kl62o$ui8$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Yes the "Vaya" episode would be a flimsy way to explain his leaving.
Unfortunately this is L&O and we may get barely a mention of it in
passing. Boy won't that be a bummer.

VoxofaFox

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Jul 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/14/00
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paul cook wrote:
Perhaps Steven will do a guest shot early in the season to bring some kind of
closure to his character. He (and Adam) deserve to go out on a better note
than Vaya, imo.>>

I was wondering that exact same thing when I heard he was "replaced" yesterday.
I can't imagine the writers just explaining away arguably the most popular
character on there with a few sentences. I would hope that Hill would make an
appearance...could even make it a good two parter to open the season with....to
explain the departure.

I saw on IMDb that Wiest appeared in several films with Waterston. Maybe she
came recommended by him? I still think it is an awful choice. I am trying to
remain open, but dang....

Margie


Lani Logan

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Jul 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/14/00
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Hi, i've been away and when i checked the many, many posts here today,
this one immediately caught my attention. Whereas i'm so totally
clueless that i wasn't aware that Adam was leaving (he's such an
integral part of the show and the glue that holds everyone and
everything together that i cannot imagine the show going on without
him), but now that i know, i must state that, like all of you, i think
that if they just sort of mention his departure in passing or do a
half-baked ep like "Pride", when Chris Noth left, i will be more than
a bit non-plussed.

And what's this about Diane Weist? A good character actress and
fabulous in such films as "Independance Day", she would likely never
make my roster of actors primed to replace Steven Hill.

A suggestion of an appropriate show to pass the legal torch from Adam
to....well, Diane if that has to be the case, could be having him
experiencing a series of flashbacks to life with his beloved late
wife, first when they met, their courtship, marriage and long time
together before she succumbed to a fatal stroke several years ago.

After admitting to McCoy that he had "been with her all day" and that
he was questioning how he wanted to spend his twilight years, he
remembered a quote from his loved one that may go something like,
"Adam. none of us know just how much time we have. We must make the
best of it because it never rolls around again".

Yeah, kinda corny but at least it doesn't bump the poor guy off, a
ploy terribly overused in television drama today.

lani/jane

chris london

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Jul 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/14/00
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In article <396f5e51...@news.lon.imag.net>,

>
> And what's this about Diane Weist? A good character actress and
> fabulous in such films as "Independance Day", she would likely never
> make my roster of actors primed to replace Steven Hill.
>

What this is about Dianne Wiest is that Wolf, thankfully, went outside
the box and hired a talented actress who will ,in fact ,be playing a
"character actress" role. She'll be fine. BTW, I doubt Steven Hill
would have been on very many rosters to play Adam Schiff back in 1990!
And that didn't turn out too be too bad a choice. ;)

chris london

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Jul 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/14/00
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In article <396f5e51...@news.lon.imag.net>,

>
> And what's this about Diane Weist? A good character actress and
> fabulous in such films as "Independance Day", she would likely never
> make my roster of actors primed to replace Steven Hill.
>

What this is about Dianne Wiest is that Wolf, thankfully, went outside
the box and hired a talented actress who will ,in fact ,be playing a
"character actress" role. She'll be fine. BTW, I doubt Steven Hill
would have been on very many rosters to play Adam Schiff back in 1990!

And that didn't turn out to be too bad a choice. ;)

Walt

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Jul 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/14/00
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Paul:

I would do a "Vaya Con Dios" Part 2 myself to open the season, making that
Adam's last episode (and would have shot it immediately after the season finale
with two endings to allow for either way in the case of Adam), and introduce
the new DA (Dianne Wiest) in the second episode of season 11.

Walt

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Ursula S Leubner

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Jul 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/14/00
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Lani Logan wrote:

>
> A suggestion of an appropriate show to pass the legal torch from Adam
> to....well, Diane if that has to be the case, could be having him
> experiencing a series of flashbacks to life with his beloved late
> wife, first when they met, their courtship, marriage and long time
> together before she succumbed to a fatal stroke several years ago.
>
> After admitting to McCoy that he had "been with her all day" and that
> he was questioning how he wanted to spend his twilight years, he
> remembered a quote from his loved one that may go something like,
> "Adam. none of us know just how much time we have. We must make the
> best of it because it never rolls around again".
>
> Yeah, kinda corny but at least it doesn't bump the poor guy off, a
> ploy terribly overused in television drama today.
>
> lani/jane
>

Please! No flashbacks! They might work beautifully on another show, but
not on L&O. If anything, a brief press conference scene, (or better yet,
Jack and Adam talking to each other before a press conference, or on
election night) where Adam announces his resignation and the governor
introduces his successor, or Adam concedes defeat in the election, or
whatever, and then let Jack and Abbie deal with facing a new boss in the
middle of a case.
L&O is about professionals, who take pride in their work ethic, and their
ability to separate their private lives from work. Let Adam leave with
understated dignity, as befits both his character and the show, and let
the new DA have a chance to establish herself in the show's formula,
rather than being burdened with an atypical episode as her first
impression.

Ursula


Don Porter

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Jul 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/14/00
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WtchyWmyn <wtch...@aol.comSpamBGon> wrote:
> jack has had relationships with his assistants... but has he ever had
> one with his boss? LOL

Every man romantically involved with a woman is having a relationship
with his boss.

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Don Porter

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Jul 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/14/00
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Lani Logan <nothg...@wwdc.com> wrote:
> And what's this about Diane Weist? A good character actress and
> fabulous in such films as "Independance Day", ...

Dianne Wiest was not in Independence Day. Who are you thinking of?

* * * * *

...and now on "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" our next game is "World's
Worst". Each contestant must act out the world's worst thing in
a category of my choosing. Let's have the world's worst farewell
episodes for Adam Schiff:

> a series of flashbacks to life with his beloved late
> wife, first when they met, their courtship, marriage and long time
> together before she succumbed to a fatal stroke several years ago.

Wow. That's hard to beat. How about:

In the style of a recent "Just Shoot Me!" episode, the entire hour
of Law & Order is replaced with an episode of A&E's Biography,
telling the biography of Adam Schiff?

Others?

WtchyWmyn

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Jul 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/15/00
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jack has had relationships with his assistants... but has he ever had one with
his boss? LOL

I'll miss Steven Hill, but I'm looking forward to the new DA.

Maybe this means when they come to their senses and boot angie harmon they'll
bring in a male assistant for jack.


Me.

Walt

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Jul 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/15/00
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Jane:

Like I said before, I would have done a part two of "Vaya Con Dios" that would
have been shot with two endings concerning Adam immediately after shooting the
season finale, which in this case would be Adam's last episode. I would then
introduce the new DA in the second episode of season 11.

Walt

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Jul 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/15/00
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Chris:

Very true about Steven Hill in 1990. Very few people would have thought of him
10 years ago (especially since he left Mission: Impossible after only one
season as Dan Briggs and Peter Graves went on to his greatest fame as Jim
Phelps on that show), remember, he only got the Schiff role in the first place
because Roy Thinnes (who played Alfred Wentworth in the original 1988 pilot)
was not available from my understanding.

Luna

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Jul 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/15/00
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Ursula wrote:
>L&O is about professionals, who take pride in their work ethic, and their
>ability to separate their private lives from work. Let Adam leave with
>understated dignity, as befits both his character and the show, and let
>the new DA have a chance to establish herself in the show's formula,
>rather than being burdened with an atypical episode as her first
>impression.

All I can say is: WORD!

See why I love Ursula, everyone? She always says what I want to say; more
concisely and quicker.

approvingly, luna
* "Why are you smiling like the Cheshire Cat?! You're smiling like the
Buddha smiles! You're smiling like the Jack Dempsey! You're smiling
like you ate the whole damn tank!"

--
"The world shall be cleansed with ice and floods, and I'll thank you
to keep to your own shelf in the refrigerator."

Luna

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Jul 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/15/00
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Don wrote:
>...and now on "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" our next game is "World's
>Worst"

Hehe... I loved that show -- the original one, that is.

>Each contestant must act out the world's worst thing in
>a category of my choosing. Let's have the world's worst farewell
>episodes for Adam Schiff:

>In the style of a recent "Just Shoot Me!" episode, the entire hour


>of Law & Order is replaced with an episode of A&E's Biography,
>telling the biography of Adam Schiff?

They could do "Adam Schiff: Behind The (Complete Lack Of) Music."

Or... hmm... Adam quits because of Jack's Viking antics. "I told you: no
marauders."

And in the Whose Line? vein:
"Oh, look, it's the new D.A.: Clive Anderson!"

playfully, luna
* "Timmy has found it hard to find vegetarian cuisine in the land of
seafood and is near-death from starvation and exhaustion. The only
option seems to be to head out to the harbour and start selling his
body to the American tourists."

D.F. Manno

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Jul 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/15/00
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News reports indicate that Schiff will be written out of the show by
losing the election for DA. This raises an interesting question. Adam is a
Democrat. Will Wiest's character defeat him in the primary? If so,
there'll be a gap of a few months consisting of Adam's lame-duck period
and the transition.

If Wiest's character defeats him in the general election, does that mean
she's Republican? If so, how do they explain a Republican getting elected
in New York County (i.e., Manhattan)? Manhattan voters are overwhelmingly
liberal and Democrat. If she is a Republican, that would mean a change in
policies in the DA's office (e.g., a Republican probably would have
squashed McCoy's prosecution of the gun manufacturer in "Gunshow").

A third-party candidacy is not out of the question (Liberal Party
candidates have won elections in New York City, IIRC), but it would be
unusual.

Any comments?
--
D.F. Manno
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"If we didn't laugh we would all go insane." -- Jimmy Buffett

MartyG5723

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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According to the article which ran in the L.A. Times, Adam will lose in the
election to Ms. Weist's character, leaving it open (possibly) for maybe a cameo
by Stevel Hill some time during the season.
MartyG
There's so much good in the worst of us
And so much bad in the best of us
That it doesn't behoove any of us
To talk about the rest of us

Dr Who

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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Hopfully they will use the retirement angle with Adam saying he will
endorse Diane's character. A simple and normal transition.

Please no tragic deaths eg: gunned down by the mob.


paul cook wrote:

> Now that we know that Adam is leaving us, what are the guesses for how
> they'll explain his departure? Personally, I hope they don't try to
> tie it into the unkown verdict in "Vaya Con Dios" but I recall someone
> making the threat to Adam that an adverse decision could hurt him at
> the polls. I don't think the voters would give a warm bucket of spit
> over that case and so I doubt that would ever cost him his job. So...
>
> Illness? Surely NOT death? Just ready to retire?
>

> Perhaps Steven will do a guest shot early in the season to bring some
> kind of closure to his character. He (and Adam) deserve to go out on
> a better note than Vaya, imo.
>

Adrianne Purtell

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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Don Porter wrote:
> ...and now on "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" our next game is "World's
> Worst". Each contestant must act out the world's worst thing in

> a category of my choosing. Let's have the world's worst farewell
> episodes for Adam Schiff:
>
> > a series of flashbacks to life with his beloved late
> > wife, first when they met, their courtship, marriage and long time
> > together before she succumbed to a fatal stroke several years ago.
>
> Wow. That's hard to beat. How about:
>
> In the style of a recent "Just Shoot Me!" episode, the entire hour
> of Law & Order is replaced with an episode of A&E's Biography,
> telling the biography of Adam Schiff?
>
> Others?

I think the Biography of Adam Schiff would be a wondeful ... spoof ; )

Adrianne
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Lani Logan

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Jul 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/19/00
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Then it's back to the testosterone-laden days of yore, eh?

jane

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