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David / Amicus

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Nov 5, 2009, 3:04:29 PM11/5/09
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GREAT episode seeing Dr Huang having such a prominent role in it!


BRAVO for him taking such a courageous act!!!!


I wonder if there really is such a drug?


Vince

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Nov 5, 2009, 3:36:01 PM11/5/09
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Good show always like him.
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Hunter

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:58:18 PM11/9/09
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In article <11947-4AF...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,
Ami...@webtv.net says...

> GREAT episode seeing Dr Huang having such a prominent role in it!
>
>
> BRAVO for him taking such a courageous act!!!!
>
>
> I wonder if there really is such a drug?
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Yes.

"In the early 1960s, anecdotal reports appeared concerning ibogaine's
effects.[1] Since that time, it has been the subject of investigation
into its abilities to interrupt addictions to heroin, alcohol, and
cocaine. It is thought that ibogaine may have potential to drive
introspection, helping to elucidate the psychological issues and
behavior patterns that drive addictions or other problems. However,
ibogaine therapy for drug addiction is the subject of some
controversy. Due to its hallucinogenic properties and safety
concerns, it has been placed in the strictest drug prohibition
schedules in the United States and a handful of other countries.
Canada and Mexico both allow ibogaine treatment clinics to operate
and openly contribute to further understanding of the addictive
process.

While ibogaine's prohibition has slowed scientific research into its
anti-addictive properties, the use of ibogaine for drug treatment has
grown in the form of a large worldwide medical subculture.[2]
Ibogaine is now used by treatment clinics in 12 countries on six
continents to treat addictions to heroin, alcohol, powder cocaine,
crack cocaine, and methamphetamine, as well as to facilitate
psychological introspection and spiritual exploration."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibogaine
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----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907

Michael Black

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:18:17 PM11/9/09
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Hunter wrote:

> In article <11947-4AF...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,
> Ami...@webtv.net says...
>> GREAT episode seeing Dr Huang having such a prominent role in it!
>>
>>
>> BRAVO for him taking such a courageous act!!!!
>>
>>
>> I wonder if there really is such a drug?
> ---
> Yes.
>
> "In the early 1960s, anecdotal reports appeared concerning ibogaine's
> effects.[1] Since that time, it has been the subject of investigation
> into its abilities to interrupt addictions to heroin, alcohol, and
> cocaine.

The minute you typed "alcohol" I realized then it isn't so unusual.
Portrayed on the show, it sounded like some magic drug.

Timothy Leary when he was still legit used LSD on alcoholics, and
initially the results were quite good. The contradiction of LSD has
always been that it got "loose" because they were testing it on all
kinds of people, and once it had been tasted, people wanted it again,
for other than the study purposes. I'd have to dig out the books, maybe
that one from Sandoz has some of the studies, to remember how it
affected alcoholics.

When the episode was on, I caught the bit about "hallucinations" or
whatever was said to the kid before the drug was administered, but
I didn't make the connection. So surely this was a result of
the nominal success with LSD.

Michael

Martin Edwards

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Nov 10, 2009, 3:12:20 AM11/10/09
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Some say that just two trips sent Peter Green bonkers, then again we do
not know what the dosages were.

--
As through this world I've rambled, I've met plenty of funny men,
Some rob you with a sixgun, some with a fountain pen.

Woody Guthrie

Michael Black

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:37:12 AM11/10/09
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But we don't know the original state of his mind either.

Michael

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