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David / Amicus

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Jun 28, 2009, 3:32:30 PM6/28/09
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With the death of Michael Jackson can the records now be opened if the
child victims he paid off agree?

Vince

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Jun 28, 2009, 4:03:20 PM6/28/09
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David / Amicus wrote:
> With the death of Michael Jackson can the records now be opened if the
> child victims he paid off agree?
>
Careful David "his" fans may not like you bringing this up.
I'm not saying he wasn't a talented person, but this other business
still puts a sour taste in my mouth.

Now look how Farrah Fawcett's death is almost being ignored.

David / Amicus

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Jun 28, 2009, 4:21:03 PM6/28/09
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Maybe if the records were opened it would clear MJ of all doubt?

David / Amicus

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Jun 28, 2009, 4:56:43 PM6/28/09
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Last night I was listening to the Coast-to-CoastAM radio show and of
course MJ was being discussed.


For most of us our bedroom is a private place but for him his bedroom
was a public room. Kind of reminded me of like the kings of France who
had public rising and retiring rituals daily in the bedroom. MJ's
bedroom was not an off-limit's place.

D.F. Manno

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Jun 28, 2009, 6:43:40 PM6/28/09
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In article <18039-4A4...@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net>,

Ami...@webtv.net (David / Amicus) wrote:

> With the death of Michael Jackson can the records now be opened if the
> child victims he paid off agree?

What part of the word "sealed" are you having trouble understanding?

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D.F. Manno | dfm...@mail.com
"When the fate of so many rests in the hands of so few, can the failure
to be accountable ever be forgiven?" - Stephen Hawking

David / Amicus

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Jun 28, 2009, 7:42:41 PM6/28/09
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<<What part of the word "sealed" are you having trouble understanding?>>


Two parties agreed to have the records sealed. In life they could have
mutually agreed to unseal them. Now that one party is dead couldn't the
living party now have them opened unilaterally?

D.F. Manno

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Jun 28, 2009, 8:05:28 PM6/28/09
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In article <29553-4A4...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,

Ami...@webtv.net (David / Amicus) wrote:

> D.F. Manno wrote:
>
> What part of the word "sealed" are you having trouble understanding?
>
> Two parties agreed to have the records sealed. In life they could have
> mutually agreed to unseal them.

They could have agreed to make them into a hat or a brooch or a
pterodactyl, too, but they didn't.

> Now that one party is dead couldn't the
> living party now have them opened unilaterally?

I have got to work on my sarcasm.

No, not unilaterally. Jackson's estate has no reason to want them
opened, so it will not agree to doing so. And unless and until it does,
any penalty clauses in the agreement will apply.

Paige Matthews

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Jun 29, 2009, 2:19:51 PM6/29/09
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On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:03:20 -0400, Vince <vpil...@optonline.net>
wrote:

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>Now look how Farrah Fawcett's death is almost being ignored.
You noticed that too?

Vince

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Jun 29, 2009, 3:00:59 PM6/29/09
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I'm sure we're not the only ones.
Well group?

David Johnston

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Jun 30, 2009, 2:17:13 AM6/30/09
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On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:00:59 -0400, Vince <vpil...@optonline.net>
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Farrah Fawcett was first of all, less of a big name than Whatshisname.
She had a year on a popular show and that was it for her career. Also,
the media had been covering her impending death for a good year
previous. It was not really news that she died.

Vince

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Jun 30, 2009, 2:22:15 AM6/30/09
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Thats besides the point...........

theget

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Jun 30, 2009, 10:22:06 AM6/30/09
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On Jun 30, 2:22 am, Vince <vpilu...@optonline.net> wrote:
> David Johnston wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:00:59 -0400, Vince <vpilu...@optonline.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Paige Matthews wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:03:20 -0400, Vince <vpilu...@optonline.net>

> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Now look how Farrah Fawcett's death is almost being ignored.
> >>> You noticed that too?
>
> >> I'm sure we're not the only ones.
> >> Well group?
>
> > Farrah Fawcett was first of all, less of a big name than Whatshisname.
> > She had a year on a popular show and that was it for her career. Also,
> > the media had been covering her impending death for a good year
> > previous. It was not really news that she died.
>
> Thats besides the point...........

What point is it besides? She wasn't as successful as MJ. She didn't
get the press he did. She probably doesn't have nearly as many people
interested in her now as MJ does. And FF's life could never be a RFTH
ep (had to somehow figure out how to be on topic) while MJ's probably
could. I'm not saying there was fire, but there was plenty of smoke.
FF's death was predicted and expected. MJ's wasn't and is yet another
in a long chain of celebrities with drug overdoses that will tend to
fascinate the public. MJ is the bigger story, ie he will tend to
attract more viewers than FF, and the news media need an audience to
make money.

FWIW, I'm not a fan of MJ and not particularly of FF either. I simply
think these are the facts.

But perhaps I don't understand what point this is besides.

Enjoy.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=fawcett+jackson+jokes


Theget

Paige Matthews

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Jun 30, 2009, 4:04:39 PM6/30/09
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:17:13 GMT, David Johnston <da...@block.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:00:59 -0400, Vince <vpil...@optonline.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Paige Matthews wrote:
>>> On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:03:20 -0400, Vince <vpil...@optonline.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Now look how Farrah Fawcett's death is almost being ignored.
>>> You noticed that too?
>>>
>>
>>I'm sure we're not the only ones.
>>Well group?
>
>Farrah Fawcett was first of all, less of a big name than Whatshisname.
>She had a year on a popular show and that was it for her career.

Except for the movies she did and the fact that every teenage boy
in the 1970s had a picture of her on his wall.

David / Amicus

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Jun 30, 2009, 7:37:42 PM6/30/09
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Wasn't her famous poster prominently featured in the movie "The
Shawshank Redemption"?

theget

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Jun 30, 2009, 9:07:07 PM6/30/09
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On Jun 30, 7:37 pm, Ami...@webtv.net (David / Amicus) wrote:
> Wasn't her famous poster prominently featured in the movie "The
> Shawshank Redemption"?

I think since Red was paroled in 1967 it was a little before FF's
time.

According to wikipedia the posters were Rita Hayworth, Marilyn Monroe
and Raquel Welch.

Theget

David / Amicus

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Jun 30, 2009, 9:49:04 PM6/30/09
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<<According to wikipedia the posters were Rita Hayworth, Marilyn Monroe
and Raquel Welch.>>


Thank-you for the correction.

Vince

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Jun 30, 2009, 11:13:23 PM6/30/09
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If nothing else respect and besides she wasn't a freak o like MJ.
She did have her fans

Vince

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Jun 30, 2009, 11:15:20 PM6/30/09
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David / Amicus wrote:
> Wasn't her famous poster prominently featured in the movie "The
> Shawshank Redemption"?
>
AND "Saturday Night Fever" as well

theget

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Jul 1, 2009, 5:06:35 PM7/1/09
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Doesn't matter. It's about the money. And the money is on covering
MJ.

> and besides she wasn't a freak o like MJ.

Makes it even more likely people will ignore her and cover MJ, because
there's nothing like a freak show to get people's attention.

> She did have her fans

But I suspect not as many.

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Vince

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Jul 1, 2009, 10:47:38 PM7/1/09
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Maybe but we were gold while MJ's fans are only bronze
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