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Robert Matthews

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Sep 13, 2002, 4:25:09 PM9/13/02
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In article <130920021134267310%n...@spam.invalid>,
Keeper of the Purple Twilight <n...@spam.invalid> wrote:

> I love that line in last night's ep -
>
> "Doctor, the man with the cucumber problem is back!"
>
> A true classic. :)
>
> Seriously, though, I got to thinking when watching this ep - if you
> were in a situation like Mike Bodack was, what would your reaction be?
> Would you be royally pissed off at the cops, like he was? An innocent
> man, only wish is to get married, and the cops jerk him around like
> that (even yanking him out of his own wedding!).

I love that episode because it's one of very, very few eps with anything
like a happy ending. The point that Adam makes at the end is that even though
Mike Bodak was fucked over again and again, he still wanted to do the right
thing--and did it, even though he was putting himself in jeopardy, and that it's
people like him who make the system work (and, I assume, restore your faith in
human nature).

Robert Matthews

Paul

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Sep 13, 2002, 8:58:40 PM9/13/02
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"We Like Mike" would've been one of my all-time fave eps even without Jamie as
Jack's ass't, it's just so well written and plotted out, not to mention Casey's
awesome performance as the title character.

I'm not a real big fan of "returns," but I think I'd like to see an episode
where Lenny and Jack, as a form of payback, reach out to help Mike get out of
a real jam, perhaps even getting Jamie (now a defense attorney) to represent
him pro bono.

Ursula S Leubner

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Sep 13, 2002, 9:45:57 PM9/13/02
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On the other hand, while he was certainly completely innocent of the
murder, he did create some of his own problems by working for the bookie,
and continuing to do so even after his close call with the murder
investigation. Not the wisest career move.

Ursula

Dave82881

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Sep 14, 2002, 8:21:56 PM9/14/02
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> I love that episode because it's one of very, very few eps with anything
>like a happy ending. The point that Adam makes at the end is that even though
>
>Mike Bodak was fucked over again and again, he still wanted to do the right
>thing--and did it, even though he was putting himself in jeopardy, and that
>it's
>people like him who make the system work (and, I assume, restore your faith
>in
>human nature).

Why are you so sympathetic with Mike Bodak? He came off as a guy who would do
anything for money, not such a desirable trait. I know that there's nothing
really wrong with gambling, but the fact that it's against the law should make
you think twice about getting involved in organized gambling if you respect the
rule of law. People like Mike Bodak don't respect the law.

William December Starr

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Sep 14, 2002, 9:29:27 PM9/14/02
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In article <20020914202156...@mb-fk.aol.com>,
dave...@aol.com (Dave82881) said:

> Why are you so sympathetic with Mike Bodak? He came off as a guy
> who would do anything for money,

No he didn't.

> not such a desirable trait. I know that there's nothing really
> wrong with gambling, but the fact that it's against the law should
> make you think twice about getting involved in organized gambling
> if you respect the rule of law. People like Mike Bodak don't
> respect the law.

You make it sound like "the law" is some monolithic entity. It isn't.

-- William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>

Cirocco

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Sep 15, 2002, 2:43:36 AM9/15/02
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dave...@aol.com (Dave82881) wrote in message news:<20020914202156...@mb-fk.aol.com>...

> Why are you so sympathetic with Mike Bodak? He came off as a guy who would do
> anything for money, not such a desirable trait. I know that there's nothing
> really wrong with gambling, but the fact that it's against the law should make
> you think twice about getting involved in organized gambling if you respect the
> rule of law. People like Mike Bodak don't respect the law.

IMHO, he came off as a basically decent kid who had done some stupid
things, like getting involved with a bookie.

Plenty of basically decent people who do respect the concept of 'the
law' convince themselves that when they break a law it's not really a
bad thing because that one law is (a)dumb (b)shouldn't be on the books
(c)doesn't apply to them (d) they have a good reason for breaking it.
I think it would be very easy for a kid like Mike Bodak to reassure
himself that really, he's not hurting anyone by working for the bookie
and he really needs the money and it's not a big deal and and and...

Not to excuse the act of breaking the law, but I at least can
sympathize without condoning. And he showed he did respect the law
when he did the right thing in the end.

Chris Crandall

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Sep 16, 2002, 12:55:32 PM9/16/02
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: dave...@aol.com (Dave82881) said:
: > Why are you so sympathetic with Mike Bodak? He came off as a guy
: > who would do anything for money . . .
: > People like Mike Bodak don't respect the law.

William December Starr (wds...@panix.com) wrote:
: You make it sound like "the law" is some monolithic entity. It isn't.

Please keep in mind that Dave82881 has never exceeded a speed limit, spit
on a sidewalk, or crossed on a "Don't Walk" sign. Because he "respects"
the law.

Robert Glenn

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Sep 19, 2002, 6:30:33 AM9/19/02
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> I love that line in last night's ep -
>
> "Doctor, the man with the cucumber problem is back!"
>
> A true classic. :)
>
> Seriously, though, I got to thinking when watching this ep - if you
> were in a situation like Mike Bodack was, what would your reaction be?
> Would you be royally pissed off at the cops, like he was? An innocent
> man, only wish is to get married, and the cops jerk him around like
> that (even yanking him out of his own wedding!).
>

> Also, the actor playing Mike - exactly how many cups of coffee does he
> drink in the morning, anyway? I've never seen a more hyper character
> in my life...
>
> --
> "No urban night is like the night [in NYC]...here is our poetry, for we
have
> pulled down the stars to our will."
> - Ezra Pound, poet and critic, 9/18/1912, reflecting on New York City


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