"Law and Order" Episode idea based on Alyssa Milano's real-life problems
Walt Parker
On the AOL Law and Order board of late, a couple of us who are
regulars there have had a discussion over the past week or so
concerning of all things the problems Alyssa Milano has had in real
life with unauthorized sites that have made profits off of her
illegally. It was a crusade against these sites that led her mother
Lin to find the website Safe Searching, which can be reached at:
http://www.safesearching.com/boards/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi
Part of the discussion gave me the idea for a new episode of "Law and
Order" that would be based on Ms. Milano's real-life problems which I
think would be more credible if it included Alyssa appearing as
herself, even perhaps with her testifying when perhaps a "good friend"
of hers has a similar problem (which could be the base for such an
episode). I did a full post concerning this on the Safe Searching
board concerning Ms. Milano, which you can see at:
http://www.safesearching.com/boards/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=125&t=013951
or if you're on AOL by clicking the link at the bottom of this thread.
If you want to reply, if you're not already a member of Safe
Searching, you would have to register, but I would love to see some
responses there since perhaps if the right people saw that there, this
is one episode that might actually get done.
My opinion is such an episode concerning Ms. Milano's real-life
problems could wind up sending the same kind of warning that "Sweeps"
did in September 1993. For those who may be new, "Sweeps" was the
first episode of season four (1993-'94, when Michael Moriarity was
still playing Ben Stone and was the first episode for both S. Epatha
Merkenson as Van Buren and Jill Hennessy as Claire) where Robert Klein
guest starred as a sleazy tabloid TV talk-show host the reunited a boy
with the doctor who molested him years earlier, only to have the
father kill the doctor LIVE ON THE AIR. Klein's charecter eventually
was charged and convicted for his parts in what happened, and this
episode served as a warning to the producers of the then-extremely
popular tabloid TV talk shows that something like what happened on
"Jenny Jones" two years later could if the producers were not careful.
It was that warning that in my opinion made "Sweeps" the best episode
of the entire series, and an episode involving Ms. Milano's real-life
problems could be another "message sending" episode that also I think
could be one of the highest-rated "L & O's" ever.
Walt Parker
<A href="http://www.safesearching.com/boards/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=125&t=013951">AOL
Users: Click Here for the complete Safe Searching post concerning the
idea of a "Law and Order" episode concerning Alyssa Milano's real-life
problems.</A> Again, it would be appreciated if you posted a reply
there as well (though you would have to register with them to reply),
as I feel if it's seen there by the right people, it's an episode that
could actually happen.
<A href="http://laworder.proboards.com/index.cgi?">Click Here for a
web-based "Law and Order" Message board (if you're on AOL)</A>
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Ava Savealot
Alos a former child actress who played Tony Danza's daughter of "Who's the
Boss" and is currently "starring" in "Charmed".
Walt Parker
> >Who's Alyssa Milano?
To which Game 6 E3 responded:
> Ava Savealot
>
> Alos a former child actress who played Tony Danza's daughter of "Who's the
> Boss" and is currently "starring" in "Charmed".
How short some people's memories are (at least with Mr. Zee). In
addition to the above-mentioned shows (and Eva Savealot, one of the
worst commercial charecters of all time), Ms. Milano also had a two
year stint on "Melrose Place" before taking on her current role of
Phoebe Haliwell on "Charmed" (the show from which I'd love to see
Holly Marie Combs eventually come from to take over as the ADA on "L &
O"). Ms. Milano had some very serious real-life problems as well with
those who wanted to illegally capitalize off of her as previously
noted here. Again, I mentioned in detail why I think her real-life
problems could make for a "message sending" edition of "L & O"
(similar to the warning "Sweeps" sent in 1993) on the Safe Searching
board devoted to Alyssa at:
http://www.safesearching.com/boards/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=125&t=013951
(Alyssa's mother Lin is the founder of Safe Searching, which devotes
message boards and official website to celebs as well as various
shows, but interestingly there are none related to "Law and Order" on
that site).
Walt
Janeway
the minority on caring what she has done.
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mikes wife
> Who's Alyssa Milano?
She's Walt's favorite sexual obsession..along with Holly Marie Combs..
Amy Easter
commercials. She also played Amy Fischer aka The Long Island Lolita in a
really bad TV movie a few years ago.
William December Starr
"Amy Easter" <east...@cableone.net> said:
>> Who's Alyssa Milano?
>
> You may know her as "Eva Savelot" on those cheesy 1-800-COLLECT
> commercials. She also played Amy Fischer aka The Long Island Lolita
> in a really bad TV movie a few years ago.
Her and Drew Barrymore and Noelle Parker. (It's Fisher, not Fischer,
by the way.)
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Rob
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Walt
I forgot Ms. Milano played Amy Fischer in one of the three movies based on the
"Long Island Lolita" when the networks were tripping over each other to do that
subject.
Rob:
I didn't think Joanna Going (who played the defense attorney in the 1/9
episode) had that much resemblence to Ms. Milano, though ironically, if it were
me she would have been my choice to replace Shannen Doherty on "Charmed"
(playing an older Haliwell sister who previously was thought to have died at
birth). Ms. Going (who had too little screen time in this episode) you might
recall was also one of the actresses who I felt would have been a great
replacement for Angie Harmon, in this case with the idea of her eventually
moving over to EADA if Sam Waterston ever decides he had enough (and I do like
her eventually to take over as EADA as she is 38).
Walt
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david
Maybe he just hasn't seen "Melrose Place" and "Charmed."
> In addition to the above-mentioned shows (and Eva Savealot, one of the
> worst commercial charecters of all time),
Any commercial with a cute girl in tight clothes can't be that bad. Have
you seen the Carrot Top AT&T commercials?! or the Terry Bradshaw 10-10-220
commericials?! or the David Arquette AT&T commercials?!
Walt
Yes, I've seen the A T & T commercials with Carrot Top, etc. and thought they
were bad too. In Ms. Milano's case, this was a specific charecter that I
thought was bad (though that was on purpose).
Getting back to why I mentioned Alyssa in the first place, I think such an
episode that is based on her real-life problems with people illegally making
money off of her (which she and her mother Lin have led a crusade on) would
make for the kind of "warning episode" we saw with "Sweeps" in September 1993,
especially is Alyssa appeared as herself and testified when a "good friend" was
going through the same problem.
Walt
Obviously, your last remark was a joke (and not a very funny one I might add).
I don't think you get the seriousness about the problem Ms. Milano had in real
life with being illegally exploited on the net, and I'm sure she isn't the only
one whom this has happened to.
I happen to think what happened to her in real-life could be made into the kind
of message-sending episode of "Law and Order" that "Sweeps" was in 1993, and
especially if she appears as herself, possibly testifying in a trial when a
"good friend" has a similar situation happen to her, never mind the fact it
could also be one of the highest-rated "Law and Order" episodes ever.
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>I don't think you get the seriousness about the problem Ms. Milano had in
>real
>life with being illegally exploited on the net, and I'm sure she isn't the
>only
>one whom this has happened to.
To which part of her problem are you referring? If you mean the websites that
paste her face on someone else's nude body, I agree that this is an odious
practice and those who do it should be punished.
On the other hand if yoiu refer her complaint about websites that use nude
scenes from her movies, then I can't sympathize. She did do those scenes with
the konwledge and intent that they would be seen publicly. She did them of her
own volition and she got paid for them. The only people who have a legitimate
grievanace are the those holding the copywrite to the movies in question.
Walt
>To which part of her problem are you referring? If you mean the websites
>that
>paste her face on someone else's nude body, I agree that this is an odious
>practice and those who do it should be punished.
This is the part I was talking about, the websites. This is a very serious
issue, and I think could be the grounds for the kind of "message sending"
episode of "L & O" that "Sweeps" was in 1993, in this case with Ms. Milano
possibly appearing as herself when a "good friend" of hers is going through a
similar problem (Alyssa's mother Lin founded the "Safe Searching" website,
which can be found at: http://www.safesearching.com/boards/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi
and the full post (with a second response concerning this can be found on the
board concerning Ms. Milano at:
http://www.safesearching.com/boards/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=125
&t=013951).
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>This is the part I was talking about, the websites.
Again, which part of her complaint about websites? Both parts were concerning
websites.
I agree with those pasting her face on someone else's nude. I disagree with
her complaint against website that get pictures of her from nudes scenes that
she's done in movies for money. In the latter case the only people with a
legitimate complaint are those whose copywrite was infringed upon.
Walt
Sorry, I meant what you said on the websites, including the illegally
"doctored" photos and the like, and who's copyright was infringed on. I was
talking about what had happened on that end.
ANIM8Rfsk
nudes scenes that she's done in movies for money. In the latter case the only
people with a legitimate complaint are those whose copywrite was infringed
upon. >>
Thank you voice of reason. I never thought Milano or her mother had ANY
standing or cause against those websites.
mk4u
If she has already done a lot of nudity in films, what would her complaint be?
That they put her head on someone whose body wasn't as nice as hers?
Also I'm curious why you took such offense to (was it Mrsmikelogan?) that
suggested that this Millano woman was your latest sexual obsession. Was it the
sexual part, or the obsession part that you disagree with? You have to admit,
she has a point as far as an obsession is concerned.>Sorry, I meant what you
Rob
these sleaze sites are making through their membership fees ...
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Walt
I took offense to the remark on "objects" because in this case, it's a very
serious subject. One of the items concerning this that was discussed on the AOL
Law and Order board was the fact if it had been Chris Noth instead of Alyssa
Milano this happened to, all the Noth fans would likely be screaming bloody
murder about this, and rightfully so I might add. This is something that could
happen to ANYONE (not just those who are famous), and that's why I think this
would make for a "message sending" episode of the series the way "Sweeps" once
did eight and a half years ago.
Walt
>I think the complaint is that Momma isn't getting a piece of the profits
>these sleaze sites are making through their membership fees ...
I don't believe that's it at all. Lin Milano I believe has been very active on
this subject, and I believe one of the reason she founded "Safe Searching" was
because of what happened to Alyssa. That site I believe serves as host to a
number of celebrities' official websites as well as boards for many stars and
shows (though curiously, nothing concerning "Law and Order"), and the site can
mk4u
cause if mama ain't happy, ain't no one happy. I think that it's actually a law
in Alabama...
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>this subject, and I believe one of the reason she founded "Safe Searching"
>was
>because of what happened to Alyssa.
What happened to Alyssa is that she made a couple of low-rent direct-to-video
movies in which she had nude scenes. Then she got angry when still from those
scenes showed up on the internet.
As I;ve said perviously this is quite different from someone whose picture is
pasted on someone else's nude body. In this case Alyssa did pose nude. She
did it iof hetr own volition. She had the knowledge and intention that the
movie would be seen publicly. She got paid for the nude scenes. The only
injured party I see in this case is whoever holds the copywrite to the movie.
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>doctored?
>If she has already done a lot of nudity in films, what would her complaint
>be?
I don't know aht the law says but IMHO it seems to be a form of libel. The
doctored photo would show that she posed nude when she really hadn't.
ANIM8Rfsk
is
pasted on someone else's nude body. In this case Alyssa did pose nude. She
did it iof hetr own volition. She had the knowledge and intention that the
movie would be seen publicly. She got paid for the nude scenes. The only
injured party I see in this case is whoever holds the copywrite to the movie.
>>
Exactly. Unless the Milano's have some ownership in the film, or some
contractural say in reproduction of material from it, they don't have any say
in the matter. And even if they do, I suspect their recourse is with the
filmmakers, not the websites.
T. G.
[snip]
> What happened to Alyssa is that she made a couple of low-rent direct-to-video
> movies in which she had nude scenes. Then she got angry when still from those
> scenes showed up on the internet.
>
> As I;ve said perviously this is quite different from someone whose picture is
> pasted on someone else's nude body. In this case Alyssa did pose nude. She
> did it iof hetr own volition. She had the knowledge and intention that the
> movie would be seen publicly. She got paid for the nude scenes. The only
> injured party I see in this case is whoever holds the copywrite to the movie.
Did she sign a release form?
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