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David / Amicus

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Jan 22, 2009, 6:33:20 PM1/22/09
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Anyone notice if his Brit accent ever slips in?


His dad Bill is on the long running Brit soap opera "Coronation Street".

Raymond O'Hara

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Jan 22, 2009, 6:52:32 PM1/22/09
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"David / Amicus" <Ami...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Anyone notice if his Brit accent ever slips in?
>
>
> His dad Bill is on the long running Brit soap opera "Coronation Street".
>

the parentson last nights ep western massachusetts/pittsfield accents were
atrocious.


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Vince

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"David / Amicus" <Ami...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Anyone notice if his Brit accent ever slips in?
>
>
> His dad Bill is on the long running Brit soap opera "Coronation Street".


I can't say I have, but look for the word BEEN a lot of them slip on that
one.
You know the two leads on "Without a Trace" are Aussies.
His accent slips a lot, I can't say the same for brother Jonathan.
Jane Seymour can do three or more American accents with no problem


marika

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Jan 23, 2009, 11:25:40 PM1/23/09
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"Babaganoosh" <n...@spam.fishy> wrote in message
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> In article <14162-497...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,

> Ami...@webtv.net (David / Amicus) wrote:
>
>> Anyone notice if his Brit accent ever slips in?
>
> Sometimes. I remember once he was talking to a girl named Emma (it was
> the ep where a woman murders her husband who is a shrink, thinking he'd
> been having an affair with a patient). If he said Emma's name and then
> any word beginning with a vowel, he'd pronounce it "Emm-er" which I
> believe is a Brit thing.
>
> --
>

But there's a lot of places in the US that pronounce that way too. Take for
example William Buckley, he used to pronounce that way.


mk5000


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Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 10:30 PM
Subject: last day n night


> some time ago I saw this very interesting sign on a marquee
>
> Christ as skates
>
> it took me a little while to figure it out but when I did I laughed
>
> the missing M is in between Christ and as.
>
> Christmas gifts SKATES
> they were selling skates and scooters
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "marika" <marik...@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.talk.bollocks,demon.local,alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley
> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Mooooo!
>
>
>>
>> "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:op.umvw6...@fx62.mshome.net...
>>
>> what I meant to say was what did you do with the letter E.
>>
>>>
>>> Upper class ones do - it's the correct pronounciation. The rest of us
>>> slur the word to make chewsday.
>>
>> I guess that means I will never have the opportunity to hear the word
>> Tuesday pronounced by a very small number of people who have invented
>> ways
>> of pronouncing things to the extent that they have created a whole
>> different
>> language that the rest of the world doesn't speak. It's basically a
>> badge
>> of distinction, where distinction doesn't really have a positive
>> connatation. It's a way (amongst several) for the upper classes to
>> immediately realize that they have a poseur in their midst and gives them
>> a
>> reason to immediately back out of the conversation, and in some
>> instances,
>> preserves their ability to reserve the really high paying do nothing
>> sinecure jobs for themselves and other members of the inner circle.
>>
>> I hope they enjoy their inability to actually generate income that might
>> be
>> the foundation of salaries for these jobs. In the next year we will be
>> able
>> to say: oh look there goes that upper crustian dood whom we bailed
>> out...
>>
>>>
>>> I think Wednesday is actually meant to be "weddensday", but we say
>>> "wensday". Work that one out! What do you lot say?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> We'll ask Morticia Addams. I believe her pronunciation, what with being
>> Wednesday's mum, would be canonical.
>>
>>
>> mk5000
>>
>> Debbie: Well, what'd you do last Wednesday night when you said you went
>> to
>> see a band?
>> Pete: I went to the movies.
>> Debbie: With who?
>> Pete: By myself.
>> Debbie: What'd you see?
>> Pete: Spider-Man 3.
>> Debbie: Why do you want to go by yourself? Why didn't you ask me to go?
>> Pete: Because I needed to get away, you know. With work and you and the
>> kids, sometimes I just need some time to myself.
>> Debbie: I need time for myself. I want time for myself, too. You're not
>> the
>> only one.
>> Pete: It's not that big of a deal.
>> Debbie: I like Spider-Man.
>> Pete: Okay, so let's see Spider-Man 3 next week.
>> Debbie: I don't wanna go see it now. --Knocked Up
>>
>

Raymond O'Hara

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Jan 24, 2009, 1:09:31 AM1/24/09
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"marika" <marik...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Babaganoosh" <n...@spam.fishy> wrote in message
> news:no-A33F1C.21...@news.west.cox.net...
>> In article <14162-497...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,
>> Ami...@webtv.net (David / Amicus) wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone notice if his Brit accent ever slips in?
>>
>> Sometimes. I remember once he was talking to a girl named Emma (it was
>> the ep where a woman murders her husband who is a shrink, thinking he'd
>> been having an affair with a patient). If he said Emma's name and then
>> any word beginning with a vowel, he'd pronounce it "Emm-er" which I
>> believe is a Brit thing.
>>
>> --
>>
>
> But there's a lot of places in the US that pronounce that way too. Take
> for example William Buckley, he used to pronounce that way.
>
>
> mk5000
>

JFK too. its a northeasternnon-rhotic thing.
FIART for the car is heard on occassion too


Raymond O'Hara

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Jan 24, 2009, 1:10:21 AM1/24/09
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"marika" <marik...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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why are you crossposting this thread?


Martin Edwards

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Jan 24, 2009, 2:34:03 AM1/24/09
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The upper classes carry a lot of anomalies. Roosevelt was from New York
State, but to me he sounded slightly Southern.

--
Corporate society looks after everything. All it asks of anyone, all it
has ever asked of anyone, is that they do not interfere with management
decisions. -From “Rollerball”

Mike O'Sullivan

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Jan 24, 2009, 9:02:20 AM1/24/09
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I posted a similar query on rec.arts.tv about Dominic West's American
accent on "The Wire", which never seems entirely authentic to me (as a
Brit), but American contributors assured me that it was OK.

marika

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Jan 24, 2009, 9:24:21 AM1/24/09
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"Martin Edwards" <big_m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>
> The upper classes carry a lot of anomalies. Roosevelt was from New York
> State, but to me he sounded slightly Southern.
>


Interesting point

When I worked in Roanoke, there were a lot of folks from the Richmond area,
most of whom considered themselves upper class.

Sometimes you could barely tell their accent from a classic Canadian one.
They say

mk5000

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David Seville: Not gonna say it.
Alvin: Uh-oh!
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Michael Black

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Jan 24, 2009, 1:11:11 PM1/24/09
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Every post she's made here has been cross-posted to that other
newsgroup.

Either she's trolling, or pretty clueless.

Initially I thought it was the former, since it's not uncommon for trolls
do do this, and then see how many replies they get in the other newsgroup.
But since she's actually replied to posts here, that can't be it.

Which then leaves clueless.

People should watch that, and remove the nonsense newsgroup before
replying.

Michael

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Vince

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Jan 24, 2009, 2:14:27 PM1/24/09
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"Lane" <noe...@noemailformeplease.com> wrote in message
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> Vince wrote:
>
>> I can't say I have, but look for the word BEEN a lot of them slip on that
>> one.
>> You know the two leads on "Without a Trace" are Aussies.
>
> And a third one is British. Unlike the other two, I haven't heard her
> slip once yet.

Oh yes I knew about her as well.
Anyway what is it with all the English, Scot, etc actors in TV these days?
Make no mistake I don't have a problem with that.


marika

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Jan 24, 2009, 2:40:31 PM1/24/09
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"Vince" <vpil...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> >
> Oh yes I knew about her as well.
> Anyway what is it with all the English, Scot, etc actors in TV these days?
> Make no mistake I don't have a problem with that.
>


It's part of the international bailout exchange program.

UK and Australia are in just as much trouble


mk5000


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Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: and the crash course


> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1082290/Pictured-Worlds-truly-blue-roses-display-Japan.html


>
>
> "marika" <marik...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:AoadnSimGI5JNM7U...@rcn.net...
>> Truth of the matter is there is no such thing as a true blue petunia,
>> either. There's lavendery-blue, but no BLUE, like crayola blue. Gardeners
>> actually call many different shades of lavender, as BLUE, though it is
>> not
>> blue, like the sky. And people who don't garden don't know this, they buy
>> a
>> flower labeled BLUE, but it never is, really, and they feel ripped off.
>>
>> I can only think of 3 true sky blue flowers: some delphiniums, penstemon,
>> and meconopsis. There's a couple dark blue flowers, like marine blue, but
>> meconopsis and delphiniums and maybe one penstemmon are the only real sky
>> blue flowers. So I wonder why they chose to insert (lavender) petunia
>> genes?
>> Why didn't they try inserting meconopsis genes, instead?
>>
>> This new alleged blue rose is a lavender-blue. As close as they will ever
>> get in roses. And people
>> will pay 1000's of dollars for it, I have no doubt.
>>
>>
>> mk5000
>>
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>> Princess Jasmine: Ali
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>> Jafar: Just a con, need I go on? Take it from me his personality flaws
>> give me adequate cause to send him packing on a one-way trip
>> Jafar: so his prospects take a terminal dip his assets frozen, the venue
>> chosen is the ends of the earth,
>> Jafar: whoopee! So long,
>> Iago: Good bye, see ya!
>> Jafar: Ex-Prince Ali!
>> \
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>

Martin Edwards

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Jan 25, 2009, 2:35:09 AM1/25/09
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No use askin' me, eh? I'm just a dumb Newfie (only joking).

Martin Edwards

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Jan 25, 2009, 2:38:52 AM1/25/09
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West himself said in an interview that his accent wasn't very good at
first. In the last series McNulty made a spoof phone call in a strong
Baltimore accent and Freamon congratulated him on it. I read that in
America the gangsters were subtitled. I understood every word. In fact
I now get a few laughs by doing the accent.

Mike O'Sullivan

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Jan 25, 2009, 3:44:53 AM1/25/09
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Martin Edwards wrote:
>
> West himself said in an interview that his accent wasn't very good at
> first. In the last series McNulty made a spoof phone call in a strong
> Baltimore accent and Freamon congratulated him on it. I read that in
> America the gangsters were subtitled. I understood every word. In fact
> I now get a few laughs by doing the accent.

I confess I frequently turn on subtitles these days, but in my case it's
not necessarily the black actors accents that give me trouble, but
mostly the young female actors on US tv shows. There's one woman on
Numb3rs who seems to blrt out her lines through clenched teeth. Mostly
incomprehensible.

David / Amicus

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Jan 25, 2009, 4:11:50 AM1/25/09
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<<I confess I frequently turn on subtitles these days, but in my case
it's not necessarily the black actors accents that give me trouble, but
mostly the young female actors on US tv shows. There's one woman on
Numb3rs who seems to blrt out her lines through clenched teeth. Mostly
incomprehensible.>>


When I watch "Coronation Street" I always keep the cc on.

The difference between Brit and American vocabulary isn't so much a
problem anymore after 10 years but understanding through the accents is
still sometimes a problem. Ashley is the worst!

Mike O'Sullivan

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Jan 25, 2009, 8:10:08 AM1/25/09
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Not familiar with Corrie. However, I believe it's not the accents but
the diction and articulation. In US dramas, more experienced actors are
fine. I never have any trouble with people such as, for example, Sam
Waterston, William Peterson, Jesse Martin, but the younger actresses
seem not to have any acting training, don't produce a voice in an easy
to understand manner, and swallow the dialogue.

marika

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Jan 25, 2009, 9:26:54 AM1/25/09
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"Martin Edwards" <big_m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> No use askin' me, eh? I'm just a dumb Newfie (only joking).
>
> --

That makes you special!

I remember the Newfie jokes my Ontario friends used to tell.
To tell you the truth I didn't know what a Newfie was back then (teenager).

mk5000

"When Anne Archer walked on the set, we talked about cupcakes and shoes.
She gives me to the point advice but she'll dance in the make up trailer
with me. it's a time when you have bad jobs on page 4 of some scripts. But
what makes great television are great characters - you could put
Privileged's characters in a morgue and do dead-guy jokes and people would
still love them."--JoAnna Garcia

marika

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Jan 25, 2009, 10:10:47 AM1/25/09
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"Mike O'Sullivan" <mi...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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I've heard so much about Coronation Street and can never find it on vod. (a
lot of stuff I can't seem to find it seems)

I agree with that swallowing effect. I think that's the Valley Girl
Californication effect.

They make all their vowels sound exactly alike too.
I notice it more and more in younger actors, but especially women.
And it is beginning to creep into the broadcasting arena as well.


mk5000

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Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:23 AM
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>
> "Paul" <pdixey@free_nospam)netname.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:uPqdncxLi5hEkfzU...@posted.plusnet...
>> Oz Clarke and James May are on our screens Tuesday 6th Jan, 8pm BBC2.
>>
>> From the TV guide,
>> TRAVEL: Oz and James Drink to Britain
>>
>> Channel: BBC 2 North
>>
>> Date: Tuesday 6th January 2009
>>
>> Time: 20:00 to 20:30
>>
>> Duration: 30 minutes.
>>
>> Oz Clarke and James May travel through Britain and Ireland to discover
>> the amazing array of drinks on offer. They start their journey on top of
>> the White Cliffs and travel north to Yorkshire and Derbyshire to discover
>> exactly what goes into a pint of beer. Oz tracks down the most northerly
>> commercial vineyard in the country, and for the final part of the first
>> leg of their trip they take to the rails, enjoying the beers in a string
>> of real ale pubs located on station platforms.
>>
>> (Stereo, Widescreen, Subtitles, Audio Described)
>>
>> Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from
>> http://www.getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r=232461
>>
>> Copyright GipsyMedia Ltd.
>>
>>
>
> maybe i can get it on vod now as it's over,
> even if I can't eat and drink all day, I can watch people eat and drink
> all day
>
> mk5000
>
> "It's been more than thirty years since the wolf and the winter cold. And
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> snuff out the world's one hope for reason and justice. A beast approaches.
> "--Dilios: 300

David / Amicus

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Jan 25, 2009, 2:33:13 PM1/25/09
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Regarding Coronation Street - a kind soul up in Canada tapes it for me
and sends me a tape every two weeks. When I'm through watching it I
mail it off to another fan.

Canada is @1 year behind the UK in airing the episodes.

Mike O'Sullivan

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Jan 25, 2009, 3:39:44 PM1/25/09
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David / Amicus wrote:
> Regarding Coronation Street - a kind soul up in Canada tapes it for me
> and sends me a tape every two weeks. When I'm through watching it I
> mail it off to another fan.

If you master the bittorrent software you could download it yourself
from the likes of Demonoid:

http://tinyurl.com/aerofu

David / Amicus

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Jan 25, 2009, 5:04:52 PM1/25/09
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<<If you master the bittorrent software you could download it yourself
from the likes of Demonoid:

http://tinyurl.com/aerofu>>


Thanks but alas I have a WebTV not a computer. My options are extremely
limited.

Martin Edwards

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Jan 26, 2009, 3:23:46 AM1/26/09
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marika wrote:
>
> "Martin Edwards" <big_m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OCUel.150062$dD1....@newsfe11.ams2...
>>
>> No use askin' me, eh? I'm just a dumb Newfie (only joking).
>>
>> --
>
>
>
> That makes you special!
>
> I remember the Newfie jokes my Ontario friends used to tell.
> To tell you the truth I didn't know what a Newfie was back then (teenager).
>
> mk5000
>
Actually I'm English, but I'm very interested in Canada.

Martin Edwards

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Jan 26, 2009, 3:25:25 AM1/26/09
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My aged mother often comments on that in England. Maybe it is because
most modern actors have not done time on the stage.

Martin Edwards

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Jan 26, 2009, 3:28:07 AM1/26/09
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marika wrote:
>
> "Mike O'Sullivan" <mi...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:6u36lhF...@mid.individual.net...
>> David / Amicus wrote:
>>> <<I confess I frequently turn on subtitles these days, but in my case
>>> it's not necessarily the black actors accents that give me trouble, but
>>> mostly the young female actors on US tv shows. There's one woman on
>>> Numb3rs who seems to blrt out her lines through clenched teeth. Mostly
>>> incomprehensible.>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When I watch "Coronation Street" I always keep the cc on. The
>>> difference between Brit and American vocabulary isn't so much a
>>> problem anymore after 10 years but understanding through the accents is
>>> still sometimes a problem. Ashley is the worst!
>>>
>> Not familiar with Corrie. However, I believe it's not the accents but
>> the diction and articulation. In US dramas, more experienced actors
>> are fine. I never have any trouble with people such as, for example,
>> Sam Waterston, William Peterson, Jesse Martin, but the younger
>> actresses seem not to have any acting training, don't produce a voice
>> in an easy to understand manner, and swallow the dialogue.
>
> I've heard so much about Coronation Street and can never find it on
> vod. (a lot of stuff I can't seem to find it seems)
>
It isn't very good, but I can see how it would interest people outside
England. Although they are dying out, there are still plenty of English
accents that outsiders have never heard.
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Vince

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Jan 27, 2009, 12:53:00 AM1/27/09
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"Lane" <noe...@noemailformeplease.com> wrote in message
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> Vince wrote:
>
>> Anyway what is it with all the English, Scot, etc actors in TV these
>> days?
>> Make no mistake I don't have a problem with that.
>
> Not enough jobs to go around at home, from what I can gather.


Yeah well we have actors here who need work


marika

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Jan 27, 2009, 7:26:26 PM1/27/09
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"Mike O'Sullivan" <mi...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Wow thanks. Unfortunately the registrations are closed

o well. Maybe they'll vod it over here or a PBS station will purchase it.
We've got enough of them here.

mk5000

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actors involved) so that past mistakes do not become future ones"--
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David / Amicus

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Jan 28, 2009, 1:59:28 AM1/28/09
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I understand that some cable companies in USA cities near the Canadian
boarder carry CBC which airs Corrie.

Also I've been told that if you know someone in Canada to use their
address you might be able to get a Canadian satellite dish and then hook
it up here in the USA and get Canadian TV.

Mike O'Sullivan

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Jan 28, 2009, 4:15:13 AM1/28/09
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Just curious - how big is the satellite footprint. Would it be large
enough to cover the entire USA, or only maybe the northern states?
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