Re the person who talked about getting research grants. All applications
for grants obviously claim some benefit for mankind. Whether it be a
grant for history study or study of literature or medical study. I
assume that all medical/ science type of grant applications often are
trying to save lives (CAncer, AIDS etc.) That does not mean that they
get funded. Obviously some type of bureacracy is needed in the giving
out of grants. But saving lives is not necessarily always a priority
with a government. If it was there would be very strict drunk drivinb
laws, there would be a very well organized AIDS awareness campaing
(instead of people claiming AIDS was a judgment on Gays like Pat Buchanan
says) and there would be a national health insurance in this country so
everyone could have access to health care. We have a not so hot record
on preventive health care b/c people cant afford to go the Dr. That is
why our emergency health care is so good.
But I digress. The point is her claim to save lives was like alot
of medical research claims that it could have the ability to save lives
and if she used the Nazi "experiments" then she might be able to apply
the knowledge sooner. And with limited funds for research from the
gov't and private sources (and she was not affliated with a Univ. since
she mentioned being at a hospital so I assume it wasnt a research
hospital) she would not want to wait more years for a grant.
Someone posted to me by mistake a suggestion that Anne and CJ get
together. I would say that while that might be amusing it has been
done already with Abby ( the heterosexual finding love elsewhere) and CJ.
SOmeone mentioned Gracie and Tommy. Please no. Anyone who was married to
Zoe has bad taste and he is sometimes irritating like when he was
a defender for that drugdealing man and got wired by the police and ended
up putting him behind bars to the girlfriend's chagrin. If it had been
Cusack with this dilemma it might have worked with Tommy it didnt.
Well I look forward to tomorrow's night episode which for the second
straight week isnt a rerun. Hurrah.
signed, Koumis's wife
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} Why did Michelle Green the actress leave the show? Her character was
} just starting to get some repect. I had looked forward seeing her being
} a partner, and then she was gone.
No one is sure, but the rumored reason is that she was uncomfortable
about their taking the character in the direction of bisexuality.
--
"Buster, this trip downriver has been truly special.
Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."
--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)
} However, her leaving was very last minute and really was seen as a
} way to avoid playing a lesbian character on the show. She was worried
} and probably with justification that if she played a lesbian she
} wouldnt find another job so easily. Just look at Harry Hamlin who
} played a gay man in an absolutely atrocious moview with Kate Jackson
} and after the movie he was unable to get any good roles or perhaps any
} roles for years before landing LA LAW.
That's horseshit. Any number of actors, male and female, have played
homosexual or bisexual characters without the least bit of hindrance
to their careers. Among them: Aidan Quinn, Hal Holbrook, Martin Sheen,
Susan Sarandon, and Tim Curry.
If Harry Hamlin had trouble getting work, maybe it because prior to
L.A. LAW, he was an atrocious actor. After CLASH OF THE TITANS, I'm
amazed he could get *any* work. I was thunderstruck at how good he'd
become by the time L.A. LAW started.
> Why did Michelle Green the actress leave the show? Her character was
>just starting to get some repect. I had looked forward seeing her being a
>partner, and then she was gone.
Michele Greene (I believe that's how it's spelled, 1 L, final E) left
very late in the hiatus between seasons, after Susan Dey made her
last-minute decision to return.
My own theory has been that these two events are somewhat related. With
Dey's absence, Greene might well have been promised a more prominent
position and better storylines (to put it crudely, she'd be moving up to
"#2 woman" spot) than she'd had. But with Dey back, her position was
unchanged and she may well have felt that there wasn't much future for
her on the series (especially if they'd already decided to add Conchata
Ferrell and beef up Sheila Kelley's role; and Cecil Hoffman came aboard
the previous season).
Jon Alan Conrad
It all started with "the kiss" from last season (CJ and Abby in the scene
that shocked the nation). That episode (and another that followed a few
weeks later) were the beginning of what the writers planned to be a
lesbian relationship (of sorts) between Abby and CJ.
Late last spring, Green (or is it Greene??) protested the fact that her
character was being developed with lesbian traits. (If I remember the
news story properly, she was afraid that she would be type-cast into
lesbian roles in the future.) Her final demand was that the writers
change the role her character was assuming... or else she would leave.
The rest is in the history books. :-)
(They wrote her out of the script by sending her to another posh law
firm. This was announced within the first 20 seconds of the season
opener at the morning meeting.)
--
Alan M. Gallatin <al...@hercules.acpub.duke.edu>
Duke University School of Law; Durham, NC
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>That's horseshit. Any number of actors, male and female, have played
>homosexual or bisexual characters without the least bit of hindrance
>to their careers. Among them: Aidan Quinn, Hal Holbrook, Martin Sheen,
>Susan Sarandon, and Tim Curry.
Hal Holbrook and Martin Sheen were fairly well established as actors
when they made That Certain Summer, so their roles could be taken as a
"tour de force" [sarcasm intended]. At casting sessions, people weren't
going to say, "Hm, he played that queer, isn't he a little, er, you
know?" Younger actors suffer more. Consider the movie careers of Perry
King, Dennis Dugan, Michael Warren, Craig Richard Nelson. (Never heard
of some of them?...ahem)
>If Harry Hamlin had trouble getting work, maybe it because prior to
>L.A. LAW, he was an atrocious actor. After CLASH OF THE TITANS, I'm
>amazed he could get *any* work. I was thunderstruck at how good he'd
>become by the time L.A. LAW started.
Well, one could be amazed that ANYBODY could get any work after
appearing in Clash of the Titans. I doubt anybody could have come off
much better than he did there. Rather than postulating an "amazing
improvement," consider the possibility that you've overgeneralized from
one atrocious movie. He was quite good in Studs Lonigan (on tv), Movie
Movie (a brilliant comic performance), and even the much-maligned Making
Love.
Jon Alan Conrad
First it was Mickey and Grace. Then Grace went to Victor, which lead
to a divorce when Susan Dey didn't leave the show and Victor did.
Then Arnie and Rox finally get together, only to be broken up by that
TV News-bit%&!
ARGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! I hope they get back together soon!
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Me too. I'm hoping that since Arnie is actually innocent this time, that
Rox will eventually find out and they will eventually get back together.
That news woman was a bitch and I wanted to strangle her after what she
did to Rox in the restaurant.
My only concern is that now that Rox has left him, Arnie may decide that
it's now okay to sleep with that TV news woman, which I'm sure, was her
reason for telling Rox what she did. So, then they might sleep together
and any chance for Rox and Arnie getting back together might be ruined.
Let's hope not.
Keithy
--
"You have class, Claire! You have class up the butt!!"--Janitor Joe
Good question.
>>First it was Mickey and Grace. Then Grace went to Victor, which lead
>>to a divorce when Susan Dey didn't leave the show and Victor did.
Minor nit: I believe Victor and Grace are separated, there hasn't been
any mention that they have officially filed for divorce or that they
are now divorced.
Grace's romantic life has followed the path of:
Engaged in first episode, meets Michael...
Michael interrupts her wedding, she and Michael get together...
Once she & Michael finally went their separate ways, Grace had a
relationship with Jack Sawyer (is that right? He was the lawyer who
defended Rosalind Shays and who then came to work at Mac/Brack for a
brief time, most notably serving as co-counsel with Ann in the "Fatal
Attraction" case last season). He proposed to her, initally she
said yes, then after much soul-searching and a heart-to-heart with
Victor (of all people), she changed her mind.
Then Victor! And I hope they get back together, too :-)