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Ubiquitous

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May 30, 2005, 7:55:31 PM5/30/05
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richard...@excite.com wrote:

>I liked the pilot. That pilot was one of the best TV movies of the
>70s. The first two episodes after that were somewhat slow but were all
>right. I remember liking the flashbacks more than the actual stories!
>It was such a sad and depressing show at times - yet it was so good
>too.

It's been so long since I've seen it I can't honestly answer, but
I remember this ep in which he finally met a relative and had to
fight an illusionist in a tent next to the beach...

Does TNT still play eps in the AM?

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ANIM8Rfsk

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May 31, 2005, 2:45:04 AM5/31/05
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in article WoednR9Ilsn...@giganews.com, Ubiquitous at
web...@polaris.net wrote on 5/30/05 4:55 PM:

> richard...@excite.com wrote:
>
>> I liked the pilot. That pilot was one of the best TV movies of the
>> 70s. The first two episodes after that were somewhat slow but were all
>> right. I remember liking the flashbacks more than the actual stories!
>> It was such a sad and depressing show at times - yet it was so good
>> too.
>
> It's been so long since I've seen it I can't honestly answer, but
> I remember this ep in which he finally met a relative and had to
> fight an illusionist in a tent next to the beach...

Yep, I remember the tent. I think that's the first time he wore his gold
robe with the hand on it.

There are a lot of good eps from it. I skipped the first season DVD set
though 'cause they messed it up something fierce. They cropped off the top
and bottom of the image to make faux widescreen, and used cut syndication
prints for some of it apparently too.

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ANIM8Rfsk

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Jun 1, 2005, 10:25:10 AM6/1/05
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in article v42r91lde37avp97a...@4ax.com, DaveJohnson12@nomail.
at DaveJohnson12@nomail. wrote on 6/1/05 3:10 AM:

> On Mon, 30 May 2005 19:55:31 -0400, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> richard...@excite.com wrote:
>>
>>> I liked the pilot. That pilot was one of the best TV movies of the
>>> 70s. The first two episodes after that were somewhat slow but were all
>>> right. I remember liking the flashbacks more than the actual stories!
>>> It was such a sad and depressing show at times - yet it was so good
>>> too.
>>
>> It's been so long since I've seen it I can't honestly answer, but
>> I remember this ep in which he finally met a relative and had to
>> fight an illusionist in a tent next to the beach...
>>
>> Does TNT still play eps in the AM?
>

> It was a great show. It's been too long for me to remember much about the
> episodes as
> well. I liked the episode where Grasshopper and Master Po met an old tough guy
> and they
> fought bad guys together. That's about as much detail as I can remember. ;-)
> It might be
> the one where the emperor's troops killed monks in another temple. I think
> Barbara Hersey
> was in that ep. Maybe not.

LOL, yeah, it was. IIRC it was a very special 2 parter, with Barbara
Hershey as 'the girl' and Hawai'e FivdOs Wo Fat, Keigh Deigh, as the
warlord.
>
> Maybe this is a good time to ask if anyone knows what a Pissmeyer is. I've
> been wondering
> for the past 30 years.

Rich Clark

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Jun 1, 2005, 6:49:18 PM6/1/05
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"ANIM8Rfsk" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> There are a lot of good eps from it. I skipped the first season DVD set
> though 'cause they messed it up something fierce. They cropped off the
> top
> and bottom of the image to make faux widescreen, and used cut syndication
> prints for some of it apparently too.

Hunh. I knew about the cropping -- it's why I rented and didn't buy -- but
this is the first reference I've seen to use of syndication versions for the
DVD. I didn't examine the episodes microscopically, but I didn't notice any
obvious cuts, nor any inconsistencies in running times. And the PQ (aside
from the cropping) was very good for a show this old, looking like they'd
found some pristine source prints... which wouldn't likely be syndication
versions.

In fact, the obvious care given to making the episodes look so good was what
made me so angry about the idiot decision to ruin their work by cropping it.

RichC


ANIM8Rfsk

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Jun 1, 2005, 8:03:04 PM6/1/05
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in article p86dnRXPqMb...@comcast.com, Rich Clark at
rdclar...@TRAPcomcast.net wrote on 6/1/05 3:49 PM:

>
> "ANIM8Rfsk" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:BEC15600.358AC%ANIM...@cox.net...
>
>> There are a lot of good eps from it. I skipped the first season DVD set
>> though 'cause they messed it up something fierce. They cropped off the
>> top
>> and bottom of the image to make faux widescreen, and used cut syndication
>> prints for some of it apparently too.
>
> Hunh. I knew about the cropping -- it's why I rented and didn't buy -- but
> this is the first reference I've seen to use of syndication versions for the
> DVD.

I didn't buy them, so I don't know myself, but that's what I heard at the
time. I'm sure the reviews on Amazon brought it up.

I didn't examine the episodes microscopically, but I didn't notice any
> obvious cuts, nor any inconsistencies in running times. And the PQ (aside
> from the cropping) was very good for a show this old, looking like they'd
> found some pristine source prints... which wouldn't likely be syndication
> versions.
>
> In fact, the obvious care given to making the episodes look so good was what
> made me so angry about the idiot decision to ruin their work by cropping it.

Yeah. I mean, they do a remaster, and hard matte it down? WTF? If you
MUST crop it, do it at the DVD stage or something.
>
> RichC
>
>

Samantha

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Jun 1, 2005, 10:13:07 PM6/1/05
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I like the one early in the series when he walks into the bar and the town
bully tries to beat him up.

The first season or two were great. Once the brother showed up and then the
weird albino nephew and Leslie Nielson; it went downhill IMHO.


ANIM8Rfsk

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Jun 2, 2005, 12:28:44 AM6/2/05
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in article hTtne.38435$8S5....@bignews3.bellsouth.net, Samantha at
s...@sam.com wrote on 6/1/05 7:13 PM:

LOL, well, given that FULL CIRCLE, the final episode of the 4 show arc
you're talking about, was the series finale, it really didn't have a lot of
downhill area in front of it at that point.

jayembe...@snurcher.com

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Jun 3, 2005, 3:13:53 PM6/3/05
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> Hunh. I knew about the cropping -- it's why I rented and didn't buy -- but this is the first
> reference I've seen to use of syndication versions for the DVD. I didn't examine the
> episodes microscopically, but I didn't notice any obvious cuts, nor any inconsistencies
> in running times.

Neither have I, which makes me disbelieve the claims that any of the
episodes are cut.
There's a range of about two minutes between the shortest episodes and
the longest
episodes, and I suspect that some people expect all of the episodes to
be exactly (or
nearly so) the same running time.

> In fact, the obvious care given to making the episodes look so good was what
> made me so angry about the idiot decision to ruin their work by cropping it.

The story is that Warner had made widescreen masters for the purposes
of syndicating
the series to HD channels, and believed that the show would be more
marketable to
those venues if it was widescreen. And further, the fact that they made
those HD
masters was the only reason that they initially decided to release the
show on DVD.

Apparently, though, the S1 set sold well enough for them to release S2
and S3, but
they got enough grief about the widescreen that they've done the other
two sets in
the original fullscreen.

-- jayembee

jayembe...@snurcher.com

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Jun 3, 2005, 3:19:26 PM6/3/05
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> Maybe this is a good time to ask if anyone knows what a Pissmeyer is. I've been
> wondering for the past 30 years.

But obviously didn't wonder enough to look it up in a dictionary. :-)

It's actually spelled "pismire", and it's a synonym for "ant". It's a
word I've known since
childhood, because my father used to use it as a pejorative (yes, my
father was a
strange dude).

Anyway, as for the subject at hand, my favorite episode is "Alethea",
if for no other
reason than because the then-10-year-old Jodie Foster gives an
absolutely jaw-dropping
performance.

-- jayembee

ANIM8Rfsk

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Jun 3, 2005, 5:39:15 PM6/3/05
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in article 1117826033.3...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,
jayembe...@snurcher.com at jayembe...@snurcher.com wrote on 6/3/05
12:13 PM:

> Apparently, though, the S1 set sold well enough for them to release S2
> and S3, but
> they got enough grief about the widescreen that they've done the other
> two sets in
> the original fullscreen.

And Amazon is selling a season 1&2 bundle at a significant discount over
buying them separately ...

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Chris

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Jun 5, 2005, 3:31:17 PM6/5/05
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<DaveJohnson12@nomail.> wrote in message
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> On 3 Jun 2005 12:19:26 -0700, jayembe...@snurcher.com wrote:
>
>>> Maybe this is a good time to ask if anyone knows what a Pissmeyer is.
>>> I've been
>>> wondering for the past 30 years.
>>
>>But obviously didn't wonder enough to look it up in a dictionary. :-)
>
> Until recently, then I didn't find it. :-) Onelook.com didn't help. It's
> usually good with
> misspellings.

>
>>
>>It's actually spelled "pismire", and it's a synonym for "ant". It's a
>>word I've known since
>>childhood, because my father used to use it as a pejorative (yes, my
>>father was a
>>strange dude).
>
> Yes he was. :-) Unless he was a Kung Fu fan, then it's understandable. So
> that's why the
> other guy gave him a carving of an ant. Another mystery solved.

>
>>
>>Anyway, as for the subject at hand, my favorite episode is "Alethea",
>>if for no other
>>reason than because the then-10-year-old Jodie Foster gives an
>>absolutely jaw-dropping
>>performance.
>>
>>-- jayembee

Side note on that episode is that it was directed by John Badham
>


Lemming

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Jun 5, 2005, 3:38:36 PM6/5/05
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"ANIM8Rfsk" <> LOL, well, given that FULL CIRCLE, the final episode of the 4

show arc you're talking about, was the series finale, it really didn't have
a lot of downhill area in front of it at that point.
>
those 4 episodes seemed like a year. I thought the nephew was on the entire
3rd season, along with the fat brother and Leslie Nielson (the grandfather
of the kid). All those episodes about the brother, the nephew, etc. were a
drag. I like Caine better when he was just some Chinese fugitive with a
price on his head. It seemed like if his family heritage was so crystal
clear then the monks should have sent his family a few letters asking them
to send for Caine.


ANIM8Rfsk

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Jun 5, 2005, 4:43:15 PM6/5/05
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in article MvIoe.97627$J25....@bignews6.bellsouth.net, Lemming at
lem...@aol.com wrote on 6/5/05 12:38 PM:

I loved it. It was the equivalent of Richard Kimball catching the one armed
man.

And Caine had been looking for his brother from very early on. There were a
lot of episodes that the trail of his brother brought him to the town of the
week.

But yes, if he'd hung around, the brother would have been good leverage to
use against him.

I don't know exactly when Kwai Chang found out about Danny, but I think it
was after he came to America, so the Monks wouldn't have known about him.

Paul Revere

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Jun 5, 2005, 7:51:31 PM6/5/05
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"ANIM8Rfsk" <> I don't know exactly when Kwai Chang found out about Danny,

but I think it was after he came to America, so the Monks wouldn't have
known about him.
>
Since you remember a lot better than I do, what ever happened to the
brother? He was killed? I just remember that at some point Kaine had a few
episodes with chubby, and the next time I watched the show the albino-boy
nephew was the focus of the episodes all the way to the end of the series.

I guess that I have missed a few. Unfortunately, it does not seem that
Kung-Fu has ever been in sydication for a full run, at least not recently. I
recorded about a dozen episodes in the early 1990s (USA?) and occasionally I
have seen it shown on various channels as a late-night filler (usually
between 3:30 a.m. and 5:30 a.m.)

Any help would be appreciated. BTW, is season 1 ever going to be re-issued
on DVD in the full frame version?


ANIM8Rfsk

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Jun 5, 2005, 10:18:21 PM6/5/05
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in article 19Moe.59257$lQ3....@bignews5.bellsouth.net, Paul Revere at
rev...@aol.com wrote on 6/5/05 4:51 PM:

> "ANIM8Rfsk" <> I don't know exactly when Kwai Chang found out about Danny,
> but I think it was after he came to America, so the Monks wouldn't have
> known about him.
>>
> Since you remember a lot better than I do, what ever happened to the
> brother? He was killed? I just remember that at some point Kaine had a few
> episodes with chubby, and the next time I watched the show the albino-boy
> nephew was the focus of the episodes all the way to the end of the series.

No. They killed the nephew's mother, played by Lois Nettleton, but the
brother and the nephew survived. The series end is Kwai Chang, brother
Danny, nephew Zeke, and Zeke's grandfather in the grandfather's house. I
*think* they'd croaked Leslie Nielson's character by then, but I'm fuzzy on
that.


>
> I guess that I have missed a few. Unfortunately, it does not seem that
> Kung-Fu has ever been in sydication for a full run, at least not recently. I
> recorded about a dozen episodes in the early 1990s (USA?) and occasionally I
> have seen it shown on various channels as a late-night filler (usually
> between 3:30 a.m. and 5:30 a.m.)
>
> Any help would be appreciated. BTW, is season 1 ever going to be re-issued
> on DVD in the full frame version?

I fear not. They'd remastered the damn things and they seem intent to stick
with them, although at least they didn't repeat their mistake.

jayembee

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Jun 6, 2005, 12:17:22 AM6/6/05
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DaveJohnson12@nomail. wrote:

> jayembe...@snurcher.com wrote:
>
>> It's actually spelled "pismire", and it's a synonym for "ant". It's a
>> word I've known since childhood, because my father used to use
>> it as a pejorative (yes, my father was a strange dude).
>

> Yes he was. :-) Unless he was a Kung Fu fan, then it's understandable.

Actually, I was just talking about this with my sister today. She believes that
he picked it up from the play ON BORROWED TIME, in which the character of
Gramps (played by Lionel Barrymore in the 1939 film version) refers to another
character as a pismire.

I think he used it because it sounded dirtier than it really was.

Anyway, these days, it lives on as a pejorative in the form of "pissant".

-- jayembee

Default User

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Jun 6, 2005, 11:29:25 AM6/6/05
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DaveJohnson12@nomail. wrote:
> On 3 Jun 2005 12:19:26 -0700, jayembe...@snurcher.com wrote:
>

> >> Maybe this is a good time to ask if anyone knows what a Pissmeyer is. I've been
> >> wondering for the past 30 years.
> >
> >But obviously didn't wonder enough to look it up in a dictionary. :-)
>

> Until recently, then I didn't find it. :-) Onelook.com didn't help. It's usually good with
> misspellings.


You should try Merriam-Webster online (http://m-w.com):

Suggestions for pissmeyer:

1. pismire
2. piaster
3. piecer
4. pessima
5. piecers
6. Pizarro
7. Pissarro
8. pismires
9. piecemeal
10. pessary

Brian

Michael Alan Chary

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Jun 6, 2005, 9:00:04 PM6/6/05
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In article <jaj7a1hmknrm9etqr...@4ax.com>,

jayembee <jayembe...@snurcher.com> wrote:
>DaveJohnson12@nomail. wrote:
>
>> jayembe...@snurcher.com wrote:
>>
>>> It's actually spelled "pismire", and it's a synonym for "ant". It's a
>>> word I've known since childhood, because my father used to use
>>> it as a pejorative (yes, my father was a strange dude).
>>
>> Yes he was. :-) Unless he was a Kung Fu fan, then it's understandable.
>
>Actually, I was just talking about this with my sister today. She believes that
>he picked it up from the play ON BORROWED TIME, in which the character of
>Gramps (played by Lionel Barrymore in the 1939 film version) refers to another
>character as a pismire.

A wonderful flick in which they corner death up a tree.

>
>I think he used it because it sounded dirtier than it really was.

Gramps calls his grandson's Aunt a pismire because "it's the meanest
kind of ant." And his wife responds "Don't talk like that, I won't hear a
work against her." To which Gramps responds, "The don't listen to me,
because I'm going to call her a pismire."

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Jun 7, 2005, 1:25:00 AM6/7/05
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mch...@panix.com (Michael Alan Chary) wrote:

> jayembee <jayembe...@snurcher.com> wrote:
>>
>> Actually, I was just talking about this with my sister today. She believes that
>> he picked it up from the play ON BORROWED TIME, in which the character of
>> Gramps (played by Lionel Barrymore in the 1939 film version) refers to another
>> character as a pismire.
>
> A wonderful flick in which they corner death up a tree.

I have it on tape, but haven't managed to get around to watching it yet.

>> I think he used it because it sounded dirtier than it really was.
>
> Gramps calls his grandson's Aunt a pismire because "it's the meanest
> kind of ant." And his wife responds "Don't talk like that, I won't hear a
> work against her." To which Gramps responds, "The don't listen to me,
> because I'm going to call her a pismire."

I'm not sure if you're expanding on the point, or "correcting" me. At any rate,
in case it's not clear, "I think he used it because it sounded dirtier than it
really was" refers to my father, not Gramps.

-- jayembee

Michael Alan Chary

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Jun 7, 2005, 10:54:27 AM6/7/05
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In article <5mbaa1l58gjluchqb...@4ax.com>,

jayembee <jayembe...@snurcher.com> wrote:
>mch...@panix.com (Michael Alan Chary) wrote:
>
>> jayembee <jayembe...@snurcher.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, I was just talking about this with my sister today. She
>believes that
>>> he picked it up from the play ON BORROWED TIME, in which the character of
>>> Gramps (played by Lionel Barrymore in the 1939 film version) refers
>to another
>>> character as a pismire.
>>
>> A wonderful flick in which they corner death up a tree.
>
>I have it on tape, but haven't managed to get around to watching it yet.

Oh, it's not all that good. The bit about the pismire is it's only
redeeming feature. They made a lot of movies about death backl then. The
only redeeming feature of "Meet Joe Black" was that the Ultimate DVD
release included "Death Takes a Holiday." Well, and we got to see Brad
Pitt brutally killed by an SUV. And Claire Forliani was in it. Oh, and
they used Izzy's version of "Over the Rainbow."

>>> I think he used it because it sounded dirtier than it really was.
>>
>> Gramps calls his grandson's Aunt a pismire because "it's the meanest
>> kind of ant." And his wife responds "Don't talk like that, I won't hear a
>> work against her." To which Gramps responds, "The don't listen to me,
>> because I'm going to call her a pismire."
>
>I'm not sure if you're expanding on the point, or "correcting" me.

Expanding a little. The notion that I might be able to correct you about
anything is so self-evidently bizarre that I am tempted to ask if you are
in good health for even suggesting such a thing.

> At any rate,
>in case it's not clear, "I think he used it because it sounded dirtier than it
>really was" refers to my father, not Gramps.

I just liked that line quite a bit, and never had the opportunity before
to use it. "Pismire" also causes some confusion in Terry Pratchett's first
book about Tiffany Aching. "Ach, please don't turn me into a pismire!"
"What a "pismire?'" "It's a kind of ant." "Oh, it sounded dirtier..."

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