Melissa Leo vs. Margaret May: The Official Survey
Monty D. Martin
I'm interested in seeing how many people believe that Melissa Leo
played the role of Kay's sister and how many think that Margaret May
is a real person who played the role. I am especially interested to
see how many, like myself, aren't sure.
Even if you have already posted your opinion on the issue, please
vote.
Please email your response to >> car...@primenet.com << or
respond via email to this post.
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The Question:
Did Melissa Leo play the part of Kay Howard's sister, Carrie?
YES --- NO --- DON'T KNOW
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I'd like to make this as easy as possible for everybody, lurkers as
well as regular posters. You don't have to give an explanation if you
don't want to. If you do, I'll try to summarize the reasons given
along with those that have already been posted. The only votes I will
count, however, are those emailed to me or posted as a response to
this thread and this thread only. It would be impossible to pick
through all the posts in all the threads and tally the votes and still
make sure nobody got counted twice.
I will post the results in about two weeks unless there is still a
substantial number of votes coming in.
If definitive word comes before the two weeks are up the polling will
immediately end and the results at that point will be posted.
Thank you.
Monty
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judy
car...@primenet.com (Monty D. Martin) wrote:
>---------------------------------------------
>The Question:
>
>Did Melissa Leo play the part of Kay Howard's sister, Carrie?
>
>YES --- NO --- DON'T KNOW
>--------------------------------------------
Yes!! Of course it was Melissa.
BTW...Love your quote.
Prestorjon
No. Leo didn't play the role
James Lewis
My husband (who is much better than I at recognizing faces) is certain
that Melissa Leo is playing both parts. I didn't think so but am usually
fooled by any change in appearance of people.
Jeff Reed
In <4n4ua1$5...@nw101.infi.net> judy <ial...@annap.infi.net> writes:
>
>car...@primenet.com (Monty D. Martin) wrote:
>>---------------------------------------------
>>The Question:
>>
>>Did Melissa Leo play the part of Kay Howard's sister, Carrie?
>>
No, she didn't. I checked the credits and it was another actress.
Gita1grci
Yes it defininetly was Melissa, I know for a fact.
PencilArtz
Absolutely YES, Melissa Leo played a smart one on us as Magaret May...
(Anyone else read "Maggie May"?)
We never saw their two faces onscreen at the same time. Whenever they
shared a scene, a double stood in, viewed from the back, shades of the old
Patty Duke show tricks. The quality of her voice seemed very similar,
despite affected differences IMHO. Profile shots showed the same Leo
nose...
I thought it was a remarkable trick, and very convincing! Also, I
wondered if her sister character was concocted as a direct response to
posts seen in this newsgroup, that have ragged on Kay Howard's "supposed"
non-femininity, (regarded by others simply as character acting). She
indeed is quite feminine ("it's the hair!") and doesn't need gobs of face
paint to prove it. However, she does look cute with it, as the sister....
IMHO!!!!
KHOU11
In article <4n5r56$f...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, gita...@aol.com
(Gita1grci) writes:
>Yes it defininetly was Melissa, I know for a fact.
How do you know this for a fact? You mentioned an inside source on the
hairpiece, too. Do you know someone who works on the show??
Robin
Robin B
KHO...@aol.com
JimAKing
Melissa Leo definitely played both parts.
The only two scenes where they were shown together as recognizable face
shots were strategically edited. No doubt about it.
~ Jim
Jeff Reed
In <4n5r56$f...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> gita...@aol.com (Gita1grci)
writes:
>
>Yes it defininetly was Melissa, I know for a fact.
You're wrong. So much for your "facts", AOLer.
Norman J Landis
Well, duh!!! Why are we having this discussion? Of course it was Ms. Leo in
both roles. However, I did notice that Gee looked a bit different. Could it
have been a different actor? Hmmmmm.
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In article <4n52mr$i...@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> jeff...@ix.netcom.com(Jeff Reed ) writes:
>From: jeff...@ix.netcom.com(Jeff Reed )
>Subject: Re: Melissa Leo vs. Margaret May: The Official Survey
>Date: 12 May 1996 16:13:15 GMT
She's foolin' with you...it was Melissa Leo in both roles, but she was using a
different name for the guest character. I recognized her right away. Kind of
tricky of NBC, isn't it...and sort of a fun thing to do.
Nancy Dooley
"Celebrate our State." Iowa's Sesquicentennial year, 1846-1996.
Cea Dorn
The intention was certainly to make it appear that both characters
were played by Melissa Leo -- no good two-shots, dubious hairstyle
that could have been a wig, etc. But when in doubt, the ONLY really
reliable way (from my practiced experience) to tell if a character
is played by a certain actor is to check teeth. Granted, prothetics
are used in some roles...but that was not the case here. So I checked
teeth. Result: looked pretty much identical for both characters.
So I would say regardless of what the credits said, Kay and Carrie
were both played by Melissa Leo or else (and not so far fetched)
Melissa has a twin in real life.
K.E. Fox
> The Question:
>
> Did Melissa Leo play the part of Kay Howard's sister, Carrie?
>
I was tired and I didn't have my contacts in) but I got more and more
suspicious as time went by. The thing that convinced me that it was
Melissa Leo was the pattern of ear piercing! Carrie and Kay have the same
godawful number of holes in their ears, in the same places, with the only
difference being "Kay" tends toward more discreet silver jewelry and
"Carrie" wears screaming, flashy earrings!
K-----
Laura Greer
car...@primenet.com (Monty D. Martin) wrote:
>The Question:
>Did Melissa Leo play the part of Kay Howard's sister, Carrie?
>YES --- NO --- DON'T KNOW
>--------------------------------------------
While the prospect of a double role for Melissa Leo did not even occur
to me while I was watching the episode, after rewatching and reading
all of these postings, I'm voting that Melissa Leo did play the part
of Carrie.
Since the episode is framed by the premise of Meldrick playing a
practical joke on everyone, I think the double role is a joke on us.
Why else would the hair and make-up people have used such a dreadful
wig on Carrie? (I think the wig threw me off the trail since it
bothered me so much.)
- Laura
Stephen Karner
It didn't occur to me that it was Melissa Leo playing both Kay and
Carrie but I have watched the wedding episode three times now and it
is Melissa without a doubt (unless of course she has a twin sister).
The smile is a dead give away -same crinkling of the eyes and nose.
Brodie's comment to Megan about her being prettier than Carrie could
have been an in-joke considering his crush on Kay. If you check the
internet movie data base, Melissa played a character named "Mary
Margaret" in a TV movie "The Bride in Black". Could this just be a
coincidence? I don't think so. Nice try Melissa but you can't trick
us. My vote is YES. It is absolutely Melissa Leo playing Carrie.
Karen.
s...@barre.mit.edu
Cathlene Brady
Jeff Reed (jeff...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: In <4n5r56$f...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> gita...@aol.com (Gita1grci)
: writes:
: >Yes it defininetly was Melissa, I know for a fact.
: You're wrong. So much for your "facts", AOLer.
Sorry Monty to interrupt this thread, but this post rates a public
reprimand. A netcommer who believes everything he reads should never be
snide to an AOLer who was only doing what the thread originator requested.
Cathy "university account but no student" Brady
Kimma Rock
In article <4n5ghg$b...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, prest...@aol.com
(Prestorjon) wrote:
> No. Leo didn't play the role
Just after watching łThe Wedding˛ ep, I posted something about what good
casting it was to have the actress playing the sister look so much like
Kay. After reading other posts on the subject I realize the error of my
ways-it was indeed Melissa Leo playing the role.
Lara Hartley
In article <4n3ltu$8...@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, car...@primenet.com
(Monty D. Martin) wrote:
> I'm interested in seeing how many people believe that Melissa Leo
> played the role of Kay's sister and how many think that Margaret May
> is a real person who played the role. I am especially interested to
> see how many, like myself, aren't sure.
>
> Even if you have already posted your opinion on the issue, please
> vote.
>
> Please email your response to >> car...@primenet.com << or
> respond via email to this post.
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> The Question:
>
> Did Melissa Leo play the part of Kay Howard's sister, Carrie?
>
> YES --- NO --- DON'T KNOW
>
Yes! At first I was really fooled by the different name, but the more I
watched there were just too many little things like the way her mouth
worked when she smiled and the way she crinkles her nose when she smiles.
I thought maybe she had a twin sister or something!
Lara
Tinita M. Wheaton
I vote YES, Melissa did the dual deed.
Tinita
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Frank Agnello
>So I would say regardless of what the credits said, Kay and Carrie
>were both played by Melissa Leo or else (and not so far fetched)
>Melissa has a twin in real life.
An acting twin? Maybe a little more far-fetched....
L. R. Peters
car...@primenet.com (Monty D. Martin) wrote:
>I'm interested in seeing how many people believe that Melissa Leo
>played the role of Kay's sister and how many think that Margaret May
>is a real person who played the role. I am especially interested to
>see how many, like myself, aren't sure.
>Even if you have already posted your opinion on the issue, please
>vote.
>Please email your response to >> car...@primenet.com << or
>respond via email to this post.
>---------------------------------------------
>The Question:
>Did Melissa Leo play the part of Kay Howard's sister, Carrie?
>YES --- NO --- DON'T KNOW
>-------------------------------------------
...and for those of you in the 4th category ( e.g., don't give a rats
ass about it)..... don't bother to do anything.
Kelly Richmond
jeff...@ix.netcom.com(Jeff Reed ) writes:
>In <4n5r56$f...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> gita...@aol.com (Gita1grci)
>writes:
>>
>>Yes it defininetly was Melissa, I know for a fact.
>You're wrong. So much for your "facts", AOLer.
Actually, you're wrong, Netcom-er. Hopefully, this will teach you a lesson
about being rude to people based on what online service they use. But it
probably won't.
Prestorjon
<<>So I would say regardless of what the credits said, Kay and Carrie
>were both played by Melissa Leo or else (and not so far fetched)
>Melissa has a twin in real life.
An acting twin? Maybe a little more far-fetched....>>
Why not. In the LO crossover a couple of shots of Claire Kincaid were
actually done with Jill Hennesys twin sister Jaqueline (Jaq and Jill ain't
that soooo cute)
Rev. Felix Roy Mariposa
> car...@primenet.com (Monty D. Martin) wrote:
>
>
> >The Question:
>
> >Did Melissa Leo play the part of Kay Howard's sister, Carrie?
>
> >YES --- NO --- DON'T KNOW
> >--------------------------------------------
>
> While the prospect of a double role for Melissa Leo did not even occur
> to me while I was watching the episode, after rewatching and reading
> all of these postings, I'm voting that Melissa Leo did play the part
> of Carrie.
> - Laura
While watching, I kept on thinking:
"Wow, where did they get an actress that looks so much like Melissa Leo?"
I keep thinking that for days. Then I finally log on to the net...
(Head-slapping noise, repeated because I deserve it.)
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landbeck john
My wife and I both vote YES, that Melissa played both parts
(though I was only convinved by my wife after rewatching the show).
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Bug
After a few days of email full of insults and death threats, I've
decided to relent and solve this mystery. Calm down, people!
I called the program executive in charge of Homicide, and asked her
about this. It was indeed Melissa Leo in both roles. The Homicide
folks had not told the NBC people about this dual role, so the big
shots over in Programming were doing the same thing we all were: "Wow,
she sure looks like Kay... Say, -is- that?"
At this point they went to the dailies to take another look.
"Dailies" are the raw footage, and they include stuff from before and
after the director yells "action" and "cut." In the dailies it was
quite clear that it was Leo - they could see her drop into character
as the take began.
So there ya go.
Craig Smith
B...@cris.com (Bug) wrote:
Now can you make another phone call and see whether the band, called
"Crazy Lady" in the episode, are in fact Shadowy Men...?
Craig
KHOU11
Martin Jukovsky
In article <4n6bg9$l...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, jima...@aol.com (JimAKing)
wrote:
It hadn't occurred to me while watching the episode that Melissa Leo was
playing both parts (she's that fine an actress), but I went back over the
sequence where you see the sisters together as they come out of the
elevator and then talk to G. I ran it frame by frame, and what appears to
be one take really isn't: first you see Kay's face, THEN someone walks in
front of the camera and then you see the sister's face. The cut is
skillfully hidden right at that point. It's amazing to watch the episode
once you realize she's doing both roles -- hardnosed Kay and the flighty
Blanche DuBois-type sister.
But where did they put Kay's hair? How did they stuff it all into a
short-haircut wig?
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Cambridge, Mass.
mar...@user1.channel1.com
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jpot...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Bug (B...@cris.com) wrote:
: about this. It was indeed Melissa Leo in both roles. The Homicide
: folks had not told the NBC people about this dual role, so the big
: shots over in Programming were doing the same thing we all were: "Wow,
: she sure looks like Kay... Say, -is- that?"
Gee that's a surprise. I get the impression that the Homicide people
don't tell NBC a loit of things. (ie. the time when they did that little
CHicago Hope cross over. They sent the network a different copy of the
episode one without the CHicago Hope bit).
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jpot...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote:
> Gee that's a surprise. I get the impression that the Homicide people
>don't tell NBC a loit of things. (ie. the time when they did that little
>CHicago Hope cross over. They sent the network a different copy of the
>episode one without the CHicago Hope bit).
Where'd you hear this?
-Bug, out of the loop as usual.
jpot...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Bug (B...@cris.com) wrote:
: jpot...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote:
Probally not the best of sources but.. I think it wa from TV Listings
(one of those TV Guide type thigns that are throw ins in daily
newspapers). Either that or an actuall article in a newspaper. They
said that Homicde and Chicago Hope planned the thing. With the Chicago
Hope guys filimg their portion (ie. the cameo by Pantankin) then sending
it to Homicide. The Homicide people didn't clear it with the network.
They just sent the network one episode, with the Chicago Hope part cut
out of it, and sent the episode with the Chicago Hope part to whereever
they send the final copy that gets shown on air.
I don't know if it's true or not.. But it sounded very plausible and I
beleived it. Makes sense that's the way they got away with it. I was
surprised when I saw it, I didn't tsee how NBC would allow them to do a
"cross over" with a show on another network. Expecialyl when NBC has
their own medical drama.
Meghan Hicks
In article <martyj-1805...@remote5.channel1.com> Martin
Jukovsky, mar...@user1.channel1.com writes:
>It's amazing to watch the episode
>once you realize she's doing both roles -- hardnosed Kay and the flighty
>Blanche DuBois-type sister.
>
>But where did they put Kay's hair? How did they stuff it all into a
>short-haircut wig?
>
I have to admit, I was fooled at the beginning too, but it began to occur
to me that it was Melissa Leo when she got away from the breathy voice
and laughed and smiled. I could tell right off the hair was a wig, and
when I first saw her (not knowing it was ML) I thought to myself--"Now,
why the hell is that woman wearing that shaggy-ass wig?"
Characterizing the sister as Blanche DuBois was great! I knew she
reminded me of *somebody*...
And finally, as someone who used to work in a beauty salon--Melissa Leo's
hair is not only long and curly, but incredibly thick. My guess is that
the hair-and-makeup people wet her hair down, slicked it back with some
heavy-duty gel, wound it around her head, smashed one of those panty-hose
caps on it, and then put the wig on as soon as possible, before her hair
dried and started to spring back out.
Here's my question: Do you think the crew had Kay quit wearing makeup so
that when her "sister" came on wearing makeup, very feminine, it would be
a better practical joke on viewers? Hey, all my other theories have been
blown out of the water. Hmmmm.
Meghan
E J Ford
Agreed I believe that both were played by the same actress!
I watched the damn show twice and they never appear in the same shot
together!
What a testament to Melissa Leo's acting ability that she could play such
a ditz!
EJ
Al Wesolowsky
Meghan Hicks (meh...@cord.iupui.edu) wrote:
: In article <martyj-1805...@remote5.channel1.com> Martin
: Jukovsky, mar...@user1.channel1.com writes:
: >But where did they put Kay's hair? How did they stuff it all into a
: >short-haircut wig?
: >
: And finally, as someone who used to work in a beauty salon--Melissa Leo's
: hair is not only long and curly, but incredibly thick. My guess is that
: the hair-and-makeup people wet her hair down, slicked it back with some
: heavy-duty gel, wound it around her head, smashed one of those panty-hose
: caps on it, and then put the wig on as soon as possible, before her hair
: dried and started to spring back out.
Dear Ghod! I just had this vision of Leo's skull... imploding under all
the pressure... I guess the season finale affected me more than I had
realized.
--
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a...@crsa.bu.edu o have been many.
Boston University o ---Michael Murphey
Norman J Landis
Mind you, I think Melissa Leo is a terrific actress, but being able to play just
two very different characters is a testament to her acting ability?
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E J Ford (fo...@hal.fmhi.usf.edu) wrote:
>>What a testament to Melissa Leo's acting ability that she could play
such a ditz!<<
And Norman J Landis (she...@ix.netcom.com) replied:
>>Mind you, I think Melissa Leo is a terrific actress, but being able to
play just two very different characters is a testament to her acting
ability?<<
It is when a majority of people couldn't initially tell she was playing
two different characters appearing moments apart in the same television
show. And when a substantial minority, in the face of overwhelming
evidence to the contrary, continue to insist that she DIDN'T play both
parts.
Bob Chase, aka Bob...@aol.com
The BobTard Archive: ftp://members.aol.com/bobtard/HLOTS
landbeck john
On Tue, 21 May 1996, Norman J Landis wrote:
> Mind you, I think Melissa Leo is a terrific actress, but being able to play just
> two very different characters is a testament to her acting ability?
>
No, the fact that Melissa Leo disappeared into the character of
Carrie Howard so far that we were debating whether or not Melissa was
actually the actress, _that_ is a testament to her acting ability.
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" I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility to any form
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rh...@wwdc.com
In <martyj-1805...@remote5.channel1.com>, mar...@user1.channel1.com (Martin Jukovsky) writes:
>In article <4n6bg9$l...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, jima...@aol.com (JimAKing)
>wrote:
>
>> Melissa Leo definitely played both parts.
>>
>> The only two scenes where they were shown together as recognizable face
>> shots were strategically edited. No doubt about it.
>>
>> ~ Jim
>
>It hadn't occurred to me while watching the episode that Melissa Leo was
>playing both parts (she's that fine an actress), but I went back over the
>sequence where you see the sisters together as they come out of the
>elevator and then talk to G. I ran it frame by frame, and what appears to
>be one take really isn't: first you see Kay's face, THEN someone walks in
>front of the camera and then you see the sister's face. The cut is
>once you realize she's doing both roles -- hardnosed Kay and the flighty
>Blanche DuBois-type sister.
>
>short-haircut wig?
>
I don't feel qualified to comment on the issue of how they made the edits - or
where they stuffed her hair - so that Melissa Leo could "simultaneously" play
her sister. In fact, I'm still not positive she did it - I seem to remember several
scenes where both were in the frame at the same time and talking and I don't
know if that is possible. The thing that made me suspect that Melissa Leo was
playing both parts was Margaret May's voice and vocal mannerisms.
At one point in the show, I realized that Margaret May was speaking with
exactly the same rhythm and cadences and intonation as Kay Howard had.
She seemed to be trying to disguise her voice (tone down the midwestern
twang in her accent) but the rhythm was not different. It was so exact that
I really started to wonder if Melissa Leo was in fact acting as her own sister.
I couldn't figure out how the visuals for that would be done, not being
trained in that kind of thing, so I assumed that Margaret May was being played
by another actress. It even occurred to me that Melissa Leo's real sister might
be playing Kay Howard's sister. I would expect her sister to sound a lot like
her.
I don't know if Ms. Leo has a sister nor what her name is so I couldn't very well
have recognized her name from the credits. Besides, she might have been
uncredited. (Wasn't Jack Nicholson's performance as the sleazy anchor in
Broadcast News uncredited? I watched for him in the final credits and don't
recall seeing him there.)
Has NBC or the Homicide producers admitted that Melissa Leo played Margaret
May?
Claudia Hunter
>
>Has NBC or the Homicide producers admitted that Melissa Leo played Margaret
>May?
>
>
Melissa Leo did play both parts, because Braugher said she did. It is
quite easy to see how they could have done it from a camera-angle
standpoint. They were never in the same shot unless one had her back
to the camera, and we're so used to the jump-cutting style of H:LotS
that it would have been even easier to disguise the charade.
John
<drj...@wizvax.net>
Meghan Hicks
In article <4o601g$n...@sky.wwdc.com> , rh...@wwdc.com writes:
>I don't know if Ms. Leo has a sister nor what her name is so I couldn't very well
>have recognized her name from the credits.
Have you ever watched the credits for a movie like "Naked Gun" or "Top
Secret" and read the silly things they list there? Hello, people!! Don't
be fooled by NBC listing "Margaret May" as the actress who portrays Kay's
sister. There's no law that says the credits for a television show or
movie have to be absolutely truthful. Don't let them throw you off. It's
obvious to me now (but not always earlier) that Melissa Leo was playing
Carrie and even if Andre Braugher had insisted, tongue-in-cheek, that it
wasn't Leo, I'd still follow my own heart. Stubborn Irish blood, I
suppose.
Meghan
Tinita M. Wheaton
In article <4o601g$n...@sky.wwdc.com>, <rh...@wwdc.com> wrote:
>
>Has NBC or the Homicide producers admitted that Melissa Leo played Margaret
>May?
I think Bug did verify that Melissa Leo played both parts.
Tinita
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Prestorjon
<<There's no law that says the credits for a television show or
movie have to be absolutely truthful.>>
Actually I think they do have to be truthful. That's why they always show
tv credits even if they have to go to a half screen to do it. All those
little folks like the gaffers and cameramen etc are all in unions which
make sure their names get in the credits. Now maybe its different if
someone wants to put a different name than their real one up in the
credits or if they make up stuff (like Naked Gun did), but I'm pretty sure
that if someone actually did soemthing their name will appear in the
credits.
Korey Sato
On 25 May 1996 rh...@wwdc.com wrote:
>
> Has NBC or the Homicide producers admitted that Melissa Leo played Margaret
> May?
In an interview with Andre Braugher (which you can find on the NBC
website), he said that Melissa Leo did in fact play both roles.
E J Ford
rh...@wwdc.com wrote:
>
>Has NBC or the Homicide producers admitted that Melissa Leo played Margaret
>May?
>
>
fact, play both parts during his online chat session?
Or am I halucinating again?
Damn these pixies.
EJ
James Lloyd Hill
>rh...@wwdc.com wrote:
>>
>>Has NBC or the Homicide producers admitted that Melissa Leo played Margaret
>>May?
Wow, recursion. So if Melissa Leo played Kay Howard, and Margaret May
plaued Carrie Howard, and Melissa Leo played Margaret May...how many
characters did Melissa Leo play?
Jim, going to Saint Ives
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David Cross
In <4onh0e$q...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> j-h...@ehsn24.cen.uiuc.edu writes:
> >rh...@wwdc.com wrote:
> >>
> >>Has NBC or the Homicide producers admitted that Melissa Leo played Margaret
> >>May?
>
> Wow, recursion. So if Melissa Leo played Kay Howard, and Margaret May
> plaued Carrie Howard, and Melissa Leo played Margaret May...how many
> characters did Melissa Leo play?
I think you've got to decide on how you count the second level character.
With the scenario we have above, the Carrie Howard character is Melissa
Leo's character twice removed. Or a second character on her sister's
side. I think. I could never keep that stuff straight. Reality's just
a guess for me.
I'm inclined to think that Carrie Howard counts for two characters, due
to the degree of difficulty involved. This is complicated by the fact
that the Russian judge will almost certainly not factor it into the
scoring.
So, in my opinion, she played five characters: Kay Howard, Margaret May,
Carrie Howard, Margaret May *playing* Carrie Howard, and the bass player
at the wedding, although many of you may not have caught that last one.
> Jim, going to Saint Ives
One.
David Cross
cro...@idea.ag.uiuc.edu
Bonnie Gardner
How did they settle on the name Margaret May, anyway? My thought: it's
the formal name of "Maggie May," the older woman who had Rod Stewart
in a tizzy back before he sold out, when he could sing some great blues.
Given the way Kellerman and Bayliss got so hot and bothered, it
seems plausible.
Bonnie
Bryan_...@weldwood.com
> Bonnie Gardner <bgar...@igc.apc.org> writes:
> How did they settle on the name Margaret May, anyway?...
>>>>
"Maggie May" is also the name of a character of questionable character (ouch...) in a folk(?) song. Don't know the whole song, I only know the little excerpt on The
Beatles' "Let It Be" album. Can anyone from UK fill in the details on this tune?
Peter Ryan
>
> "Maggie May" is also the name of a character of questionable
character (ouch...) in a folk(?) song. Don't know the whole song, I
only know the little excerpt on The
> Beatles' "Let It Be" album. Can anyone from UK fill in the details
on this tune?
>
Are you thinking of Rod Stewart's Maggie May on Gasoline Alley
album?
~P
Kathryn Ford
Peter Ryan (pcr...@gvmhs.com) wrote:
: only know the little excerpt on The
: > Beatles' "Let It Be" album. Can anyone from UK fill in the details
: on this tune?
: Are you thinking of Rod Stewart's Maggie May on Gasoline Alley
: album?
Actually, the Rod Stewart song Maggie May is on Every Picture Tells a
Story...I think it is a different song from the Beatles' one - Maggie
May, is, I do believe, a folk song...
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And for them I would not disagree
But I never learned nothing from
playing it safe
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Bryan_...@weldwood.com
No, if memory serves, this is credited to "Trad. arranged Lennon/McCartney/Harrison/Starkey".
The song on "Let It Be" is a jokey walk through during the recording sessions that was included on the final album "between tracks". It is incomplete, but starts off like:
"Ohhhhhhhhh...
Dirty Maggie May
They ha' taken her away
And she'll never walk our night(?) streets anymore
Oh, the judge he guilty found 'er
A-robbing(?) a-homeward bound-eh,
That dirty no-good robbin' Maggie May
Just a part of Liverpool..."
then it degenerates.
Anybody in UK know this, or know of a proper recording of it? Perhaps by The Fureys or someone like that...
JimKing
After reading all this "Margaret May" speculation for a few weeks, I'm
finally compelled to add my $.11.
I'll bet that Margaret May is Melissa Leo's real sister's name, or maybe
her mother's name. Simple!
~ Jim
Faith Pennick
Not to belabor an already old subject, but this idea didn't hit me until
a week after "The Wedding" episode aired. And obviously, I haven't
posted it until now.
The "Margaret May" thing was bothering me too...then a certain ROD
STEWART song came to mind....
Get it?! :-)
andipa...@googlemail.com
> I'm interested in seeing how many people believe that Melissa Leo
> played the role of Kay's sister and how many think that Margaret May
> is a real person who played the role. I am especially interested to
> see how many, like myself, aren't sure.
>
> Even if you have already posted your opinion on the issue, please
> vote.
>
> Please email your response to >> car...@primenet.com << or
> respond via email to this post.
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> The Question:
>
> Did Melissa Leo play the part of Kay Howard's sister, Carrie?
>
> YES --- NO --- DON'T KNOW
> --------------------------------------------
>
> I'd like to make this as easy as possible for everybody, lurkers as
> well as regular posters. You don't have to give an explanation if you
> don't want to. If you do, I'll try to summarize the reasons given
> along with those that have already been posted. The only votes I will
> count, however, are those emailed to me or posted as a response to
> this thread and this thread only. It would be impossible to pick
> through all the posts in all the threads and tally the votes and still
> make sure nobody got counted twice.
>
> I will post the results in about two weeks unless there is still a
> substantial number of votes coming in.
>
> If definitive word comes before the two weeks are up the polling will
> immediately end and the results at that point will be posted.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> Monty
>
> --------------------------------------
> "A cigar may be just a cigar, but Lanie, now she's a smoke." -- W.T. 'Doc' Pfefferle, PhD.
third time i watched that episode.. i noticed how much they looked alike. then wound back and noticed extremely skilful filming and edditing.. you never actually see both of the charactors faces on screen at the same time - just get the impression that you are..
Cardinal Robbins
> I'm interested in seeing how many people believe that Melissa Leo
> played the role of Kay's sister and how many think that Margaret May
> is a real person who played the role. I am especially interested to
> see how many, like myself, aren't sure.