"Margaret May" and Melissa Leo
schlock
I'll say this: it never occurred to me that Melissa Leo might be playing
the part of her own sister. The first shot of her sister with that
bizarre turn of the camera around her did strike me as odd, and I did
notice that their facial expressions were very similar (especially when
Carrie smiled), but it never ONCE occurred to me that Melissa was
playing both parts. Strange, because I'm usually one of the most
paranoid actor-spotting people around.
But the more I think about it...the more it seems they could have indeed
been the same person...
1. The actress "Margaret May" does not exist, accd. to the Internet
Movie Database.
2. "Maggie May" is a song by Rod Stewart. (Unfortunately, there is
nothing incriminating in the lyrics to said song.)
3. Carrie's hair did strike me as a very frightening wig. You'd be
surprised how much hair you can stick under a wig. They could have
done it for Melissa easily.
4. Melissa Leo with makeup looks very different from Melissa Leo as Kay
Howard; we've seen this in other shows. If she played her own sister,
they could easily make them look very different.
5. From the NBC website: "Detectives Bayliss (Kyle Secor) and Kellerman
(Reed Diamond) engage in a romantic competition for Sgt. Howard's
(Melissa Leo) sister who is in town visiting." NBC is usually very anal
about providing the names of every guest actor on every show in every
plot summary. Notice: No parenthetical actress after "Sgt. Howard's
sister." In the words of one Counselor Deanna Troi: They're hiding
something.
Man, I gotta get my own VCR. Having to wait to go home to review these
things is driving me nuts...
Fantastic job by Melissa Leo, though, if it really was her; she
separated the two roles beautifully. Fooled me completely.
schlock
--
"Find beauty in the banal, for it is everywhere." --Bellini
http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~schlock
Norman J Landis
On 11 May 1996 23:46:00 GMT, schlock <sch...@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
>1. The actress "Margaret May" does not exist, accd. to the Internet
>Movie Database.
>
I could find only one reference. Apparently she was a regular on the TV show
"The Young Riders."
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Monty D. Martin
she...@ix.netcom.com (Norman J Landis) wrote:
>On 11 May 1996 23:46:00 GMT, schlock <sch...@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
>>1. The actress "Margaret May" does not exist, accd. to the Internet
>>Movie Database.
>>
>I could find only one reference. Apparently she was a regular on the TV show
>"The Young Riders."
I'm beginning to smell a conspiracy. I never saw The Young Riders,
but if Melissa and Maggie are both listed in the credits, there must
be some connection here (just stating the obvious). Does anyone
remember a character in The Young Riders that could have been a
Melissa double role?
Monty
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Norman J Landis
On 12 May 1996 09:34:02 -0700, car...@primenet.com (Monty D. Martin) wrote:
>she...@ix.netcom.com (Norman J Landis) wrote:
>
>>On 11 May 1996 23:46:00 GMT, schlock <sch...@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
>>>1. The actress "Margaret May" does not exist, accd. to the Internet
>>>Movie Database.
>>>
>>I could find only one reference. Apparently she was a regular on the TV show
>>"The Young Riders."
>
>I'm beginning to smell a conspiracy. I never saw The Young Riders,
>but if Melissa and Maggie are both listed in the credits, there must
>be some connection here (just stating the obvious). Does anyone
>remember a character in The Young Riders that could have been a
>Melissa double role?
>
>
>Monty
Awww! I was just teasing :)
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In article <4n38ro$b...@nntp.Stanford.EDU> schlock <sch...@leland.stanford.edu> writes:
>From: schlock <sch...@leland.stanford.edu>
>Subject: "Margaret May" and Melissa Leo
>Date: 11 May 1996 23:46:00 GMT
>Fantastic job by Melissa Leo, though, if it really was her; she
>separated the two roles beautifully. Fooled me completely.
>schlock
>--
The voice was the key; that and the way of speaking. I caught the voice
first; appearance second. The wig was scary; it made "sis" look like a tacky
hooker. But even so, I was glad to see Melissa Leo with a different
appearance for once.
Nancy Dooley
"Celebrate our State." Iowa's Sesquicentennial year, 1846-1996.
Cea Dorn
>>On 11 May 1996 23:46:00 GMT, schlock <sch...@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
>I'm beginning to smell a conspiracy. I never saw The Young Riders,
>but if Melissa and Maggie are both listed in the credits, there must
>be some connection here (just stating the obvious). Does anyone
>remember a character in The Young Riders that could have been a
>Melissa double role?
>
>
>Monty
>
I'm pretty sure that Melissa Leo played the first cook/housekeeper for
Teaspoon and the riders.
Ceon Ramon
In article <nancy-dooley....@uiowa.edu>,
Nancy Dooley <nancy-...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
>In article <4n38ro$b...@nntp.Stanford.EDU> schlock <sch...@leland.stanford.edu> writes:
>
>>Fantastic job by Melissa Leo, though, if it really was her; she
>>separated the two roles beautifully. Fooled me completely.
>
>first; appearance second.
It was the voice for me, too, Nancy. I found the similarity in pitch and
intonation uncanny. Then I began to look closely at Carrie's features to
see how far the resemblance went, but, like Schlock, never crossed that
threshold of actually speculating that the two were the same actress. And
I don't tape the show, so unlike the other forensic scientists here :-) I
can't go back and examine teeth, fingers, and pattern of holes in their
ears.
The wig was scary; it made "sis" look like a tacky
>hooker.
I thought she looked like a 1960s-style Avon lady.
--Barbara
Bug
Me, I just picked up the phone and called the program executive in
charge of the show and she said... Aw heck, you guys are having so
such a good time speculating about this that I hate to spoil your fun.
Ain't I a stinker?
Alan Sepinwall
"Okay, here's the deal. I'm going to find Bug. And when I find him, I'm
going to kill him. I'm a very clever student and I will kill him in
such a way I will not be caught. He will simply disappear. And like all
sphincters before him, he will not be missed."
Watch your step now, Bug. :)
Alan Sepinwall * e-mail: sepi...@mail.sas.upenn.edu
Personal homepage: http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~sepinwal/
NYPD Blue page: http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~sepinwal/nypd.html
RANDOM QUOTE:
"The Jesuits taught me how to think. I haven't felt safe since."
-Andre Braugher, "Homicide: Life on the Street"
Charlene Vickers
schlock wrote:
> 2. "Maggie May" is a song by Rod Stewart. (Unfortunately, there is
> nothing incriminating in the lyrics to said song.)
It's also a song on the album Let It Be. I don't
have a copy of that album, but it's not the same song as
Rod Stewart's. The lyrics are something like, "Maggie May
oh she's the dirtiest whore in Liverpool," I think. Don't
shoot me if I'm wrong, though. It has been a few years
since I first heard that album (when I was six and now I
have graying hair!!!)
Dreading the march of time,
Charlene
schlock
B...@cris.com (Bug) wrote:
> Me, I just picked up the phone and called the program executive in
>charge of the show and she said... Aw heck, you guys are having so
>such a good time speculating about this that I hate to spoil your fun.
>
>
>
> Ain't I a stinker?
Grr.
If you don't want to share about that, would you happen to know anyone
who might be able to tell us the name of the band that appeared in
the episode? It's not as though it was just a song dubbed over the
dialog...the people appeared on the screen...just one of their names
would confirm the Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet mystery...
Ooh, network insiders. Are they more trouble than they're worth?
Bug
schlock <sch...@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
>Grr.
Hehe.... Free passes to Universal Studios, and internet death
threats all in one day! Whee!
>If you don't want to share about that, would you happen to know anyone
>who might be able to tell us the name of the band that appeared in
>the episode? It's not as though it was just a song dubbed over the
>dialog...the people appeared on the screen...just one of their names
>would confirm the Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet mystery...
I'll see what I can find out as some sort of recompense, schlocky.
>Ooh, network insiders. Are they more trouble than they're worth?
<evil grin>
Prestorjon
Bug you dumb slut! If you know and aren't telling us, I'm going to...
well I don't know what but it ain't gonna be pretty.
Of course if you don't know and are just yanking our chains I'm still
gonna do it to ya. So you better come up with the right answert and soon
buddy-o
KHOU11
C'mon Bug!!! We need to know! I think we have all speculated long enough.
This thread doesn't need to go on until our eyes leak out of our heads
from sitting here in front of our computer screens and rewinding the
episode to look at teeth and ear piercing patterns!! Let us in on the
scoop!
PS, I'd watch out for Alan!
Robin B
KHO...@aol.com
ZuzuJones
> Me, I just picked up the phone and called the program executive in
>charge of the show and she said... Aw heck, you guys are having so
>such a good time speculating about this that I hate to spoil your fun.
You are an incredible pain in the ass.
ZuzuJones
In article <4n8845$l...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>, ce...@u.washington.edu
(Ceon Ramon) writes:
>The wig was scary; it made "sis" look like a tacky
>>hooker.
>
>I thought she looked like a 1960s-style Avon lady.
>
>
I thought she looked like the trampy, alcoholic wife of an astronaut.
Bug
prest...@aol.com (Prestorjon) wrote:
>Bug you dumb slut! If you know and aren't telling us, I'm going to...
>well I don't know what but it ain't gonna be pretty.
See the Official Survey topic for the goods.
Ceon Ramon
In article <4ne81p$6...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
ZuzuJones <zuzu...@aol.com> wrote:
>In article <4n8845$l...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>, ce...@u.washington.edu
>(Ceon Ramon) writes:
[someone else...]
>>The wig was scary; it made "sis" look like a tacky hooker.
>>I thought she looked like a 1960s-style Avon lady.
>I thought she looked like the trampy, alcoholic wife of an astronaut.
...who had been *visited* by an Avon lady!
--Barbara
Cathlene Brady
ZuzuJones (zuzu...@aol.com) wrote:
: In article <4n8845$l...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>, ce...@u.washington.edu
: (Ceon Ramon) writes:
: I thought she looked like the trampy, alcoholic wife of an astronaut.
How about a Swedish Presbyterian car wash attendant?
Any more stereotypes to kick around?
CB
Ceon Ramon
In article <4nhlrp$m...@hecate.umd.edu>,
[enthusiastically] Oh, yes! Lots!
How about the tootsie of a sleazy 1930s tent evangelist?
Or the love child of Zelda Fitzgerald and William Faulkner? There really
was a bit of the aging Southern belle in her performance, no? A little
bit of Amanda Wingfield perhaps?
--Barbara (big fan of literary anthropology -- scratch a stereotype, find
a prototype I've always said)
KHOU11
In article <4niqtg$t...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>, ce...@u.washington.edu
(Ceon Ramon) writes:
>>Any more stereotypes to kick around?
>
>[enthusiastically] Oh, yes! Lots!
>
>
I think the point was that we should refrain from irrational and ignorant
statemtents that people already have trouble seeing past as you went on to
do. Even in jest they cause harm.
Robin B
KHO...@aol.com
ser...@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
In article <4nhlrp$m...@hecate.umd.edu>, cbr...@csc.umd.edu (Cathlene Brady) writes:
> ZuzuJones (zuzu...@aol.com) wrote:
> : (Ceon Ramon) writes:
> : >I thought she looked like a 1960s-style Avon lady.
> : I thought she looked like the trampy, alcoholic wife of an astronaut.
>
> How about a Swedish Presbyterian car wash attendant?
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DONALD BERG
>>I could find only one reference. Apparently she was a regular on the TV
>>"The Young Riders."
MDM> I'm beginning to smell a conspiracy. I never saw The Young Riders,
MDM> but if Melissa and Maggie are both listed in the credits, there must
MDM> be some connection here (just stating the obvious). Does anyone
MDM> remember a character in The Young Riders that could have been a
MDM> Melissa double role?
"The Complete Directory to Prime Time Network and Cable TV Shows,
1946 - Present" [1995], by Tim Brooks & Earle Marsh, pub. Ballantine,
lists thirteen recurring characters for "The Young Riders", among
them, Melissa Leo. No Margaret May. The same reference has an
extensive index of actors appearing as regulars and guests, including
seven Mays, no Margaret.
However interesting this may be, neither this (or any) book should be
considered definitive. Same for the internet movie database.
"Margaret May" could very well be an up-and-coming performer, or a
Baltimore local personality.
(I vote for Melissa = Margaret. Thought so within moments after
hearing "Margaret" speak her first lines.)
FWIW, Don
MDM> Monty
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MDM> 'Doc' Pfef ferle, PhD.
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Title: 1996 LT. GIARDELLO
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003 WILCOX
004 CAPERS
005 FARRELL
006 WATTS
007 LAYZEK
008 ZARATTA
009 POLLACK
010 REGINALD
011 CASWELL
054 EGAN
077 SLAYTON
089 GALENO
093 LAMBERT*
123 CLIFFORD
1995
048 PRATT*
145 EWING*
HOWARD
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019 LAWSON
028 DAWSON
039 JOYCE
064 INGUS
075 ZAROBA
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090 HANYPSIAK
105 AULT
113 IGLEHART
128 SIMPSON
142 +LUGO
LEWIS
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022 CIANCONE*
033 SHEA
040 IMBACH
048 MOHR*
067 FRUEHAUF
080 WOLSKY
087 DILEBERTO*
106 ZITO
114 COMBS*
120 TARR
125 LAVINSKY*
145 GILES*
152 +STEINER*
1995
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MUNCH
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108 NOWAK*
117 SAFFRAN
124 ADDER*
1995
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PEMBLETON
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014 FERDETTE
015 HEALY
016 NITSCHKE
027 KILDUFF
060 BIANCULLI*
082 LUCKEN
095 JOYNES
096 COOK
097 DOE #3
098 ALSTON
099 NUTH
100 ELAM
101 HAMLIN
102 WULF
103 GERTZ
104 O'BRIEN
132 PARSONS
1995
118 GANT*
152 LUDWIG*
KELLERMAN
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026 FARBER*
037 MERZ
050 BAIER
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063 CLAYMORE
085 PLATT*
092 DAMON
110 MEJIA
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130 ROBERTSON
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136 MATHIAS, C.
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