Duncan's Martial Arts practice
Chris Bare
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Philippa Chapman
>What martial art is Duncan often shown practicing solo with his katana?
If you really MEAN with his katana, then I should think proper fighting
moves. The katas he does on his own without a sword are a mixture of
things, but also genuine. I have seen SIMILAR moves in the higher grades
of Tae Kwon Do (not identical, similar!).
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>
> What martial art is Duncan often shown practicing solo with his katana?
I know at least once, they showed him using a Korean sword form; I
don't know about other occasions.
NiH
Randall Broad
Philippa Chapman <phil...@dapc.globalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:37445f48...@news.globalnet.co.uk...
> On 13 May 1999 18:57:15 GMT, ch...@metrolink.com (Chris Bare) wrote:
>
> >What martial art is Duncan often shown practicing solo with his katana?
>
very little about the sword. But the empty hand katas are not korean, unless
they come from Hwrang-do (not sure of the spelling), but they are not tae
kwon do. They appear to me to be Chinese in origin. The technique is too
circular and flowing for tae kwon do or Japanese/Okinawan karate. In one
episode they do flash back to Duncan in china where he meets Mai Ling and
falls in love with her. She was also a martial arts master and I was under
the impression she was one of his teachers. I do know that wing chun was
founded by a buddhist nun named Ng Mei (spelling??), whether this is what
the directors were referring to is unknown by me. But I have seen Duncan use
many techniques that are common to wing chun (...as well as many other
chinese arts). In addition, he does have a wing chun dummy in his school on
the show, although I have never seen him hit it.
rlb
J Gillen
I'm pretty sure the empty hand katas that
Duncan is seen practicing is Hung Gar,
It represents five animals.I can only remember
three,the crane,the horse and the tiger.
If any one on the group agrees that this is
correct I will try to get you more info or a web site.
Jinny
Randall Broad wrote in message ...
J Gillen
Boy did I get that wrong!
The reason I could only remember
three animals (cause it only is three).
Let me give you a web site .
www.tcp.com/~mint/hung-gar.html
Hope this helps.
Jinny
J Gillen wrote in message ...
James Bishop
Fu known for its forceful, hard techniques and its horse stances. He had
also had some training in a couple of other arts, including taekwondo. But
the bulk of his training has been in Hung Gar under Sifu Vernon Reita.
As for his sword forms, you guys are all right. In the first season, Paul
worked with sword choreographer Bob Anderson, who did the sword work for the
original movie. Bob used more of the European influences of fencing, as
well as some basic Japanese stuff.
In the second year, Paul took the hiatus in between to study up on his sword
forms, recognizing that Duncan MacLeod would be well versed and all sword
forms and that his own performance could be improved. That's why his
martial arts and sword work seemed to improve in the second season. If you
notice in the first season he didn't do too much empty-handed fighting and
that in the second season he came back doing more complex fighting scenes.
This was because he had gone out and improved his skills, and I think that's
the mark of a good actor and that's why I respect him. So in the second
season he added some Chinese sword forms.
In the third season Paul added some korean sword forms. These could be seen
in the episode "Shadows".
During the hiatus after the fourth season Paul studied some filipino Kali
and Escrima. He incorporated the knife work from what he learned into the
fifth season.
MacLeod "putting down his sword" in the sixth season was not only a good
plot device but aslo gave Paul a chance to show off his stickfighting
skills, which are the basis of Kali and Escrima, characterized by
close-quarters fighting and rapid hand speed.
So, to simply answer the question, Paul used Japanese, European, Chinese,
and Korean sword forms in his performances as Duncan MacLeod.
James Bishop
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"James Bishop" <james.b...@gte.net> wrote:
> Adrian Paul is a practitioner of Hung Gar, a southern Chinese Style
of Kung
> Fu known for its forceful, hard techniques and its horse stances. He
had
> also had some training in a couple of other arts, including
taekwondo. But
> the bulk of his training has been in Hung Gar under Sifu Vernon Reita.
Yes, I have heard of Vernon Reita, hung gar teacher. I also recall
another actor who starred in the scifi series "V" and also played
in "The Beastmaster." I can't recall his last name, only his first
name, Mark. He too is a Hung Gar man, or, at least, was.
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> Yes, I have heard of Vernon Reita, hung gar teacher. I also recall
> another actor who starred in the scifi series "V" and also played
> in "The Beastmaster." I can't recall his last name, only his first
> name, Mark. He too is a Hung Gar man, or, at least, was.
You mean Marc Singer. You may also recognize him from the first season of HLTS
as "Caleb" in "Mountain Men".
I didn't know he practiced Hung Gar......thanks for the info.
BTW a friend of mine also teaches Hung Gar, but he has always spelled it *hung
ga*. Is it a different style without the *R* at the end, or is it just the NY
dialect murdering yet another word?
JunkyJim
Sixt4TBird
>So, to simply answer the question, Paul used Japanese, European, Chinese,
>and Korean sword forms in his performances as Duncan MacLeod.
Oh. Is *that* all.
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>
> Hi,
> I'm pretty sure the empty hand katas that
> Duncan is seen practicing is Hung Gar,
> It represents five animals.I can only remember
> three,the crane,the horse and the tiger.
> If any one on the group agrees that this is
> correct I will try to get you more info or a web site.
> Jinny
His empty-hand style on the show is yes, Hung Gar, and Choy Li Fut as
well. Or at least that's what they use to choreograph. According to
the plot, he's studied boxing, jujitsu, and white crane kung fu (this
last is what he was supposedly studying with Mei-ling Shen).
Hung gar is just Tiger and Crane as far as I know.
> >
> >Philippa Chapman <phil...@dapc.globalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:37445f48...@news.globalnet.co.uk...
> >> On 13 May 1999 18:57:15 GMT, ch...@metrolink.com (Chris Bare) wrote:
> >>
> >> >What martial art is Duncan often shown practicing solo with his katana?
> >>
> >It is hard to say for sure what he is doing with the katana, because I know
> >very little about the sword. But the empty hand katas are not korean,
> unless
> >they come from Hwrang-do (not sure of the spelling), but they are not tae
> >kwon do. They appear to me to be Chinese in origin. The technique is too
> >circular and flowing for tae kwon do or Japanese/Okinawan karate. In one
> >episode they do flash back to Duncan in china where he meets Mai Ling and
> >falls in love with her. She was also a martial arts master and I was under
> >the impression she was one of his teachers. I do know that wing chun was
> >founded by a buddhist nun named Ng Mei (spelling??), whether this is what
> >the directors were referring to is unknown by me. But I have seen Duncan
> use
> >many techniques that are common to wing chun (...as well as many other
> >chinese arts). In addition, he does have a wing chun dummy in his school on
> >the show, although I have never seen him hit it.
> >
> >rlb
> >
> >
If it's Hwarang-do, it's Korean, not Chinese. Tae Kwon Do is a modern
Korean martial art with much influence form Shotokan karate, which is
very linear. So just because it doesn't look like TKD doesn't mean it's
not Korean.
Win Chun dummies are very common training aids in the martial arts
community, popularized by Bruce Lee. That may have been Charlie's tool,
not DM's.
NiH
amazed at how often this topic comes up
Andrea Logue
: J Gillen wrote:
: >
: > Hi,
: > I'm pretty sure the empty hand katas that
: > Duncan is seen practicing is Hung Gar,
: > It represents five animals.I can only remember
: > three,the crane,the horse and the tiger.
: > If any one on the group agrees that this is
: > correct I will try to get you more info or a web site.
: > Jinny
: > Randall Broad wrote in message ...
:
: His empty-hand style on the show is yes, Hung Gar, and Choy Li Fut as
: well. Or at least that's what they use to choreograph.
I wonder if he ever studied Pek Sil Lum. I just wonder because there
are a number of empty handed (and weapon) sets involved with it.
peace,
Andrea
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junky...@aol.com (JunkyJim69) wrote:
> You mean Marc Singer. You may also recognize him from the first
season of HLTS
> as "Caleb" in "Mountain Men".
> I didn't know he practiced Hung Gar......thanks for the info.
> BTW a friend of mine also teaches Hung Gar, but he has always spelled
it *hung
> ga*. Is it a different style without the *R* at the end, or is it
just the NY
> dialect murdering yet another word?
Yes, you're right, thanks...it IS Singer. FYI He appeared as
the main villain in the Oliver Grunier movie, "The Fighter."
Grunier plays the part of a French soldier well-versed in the
art of savate. Singer plays a German soldier.
"Ga" and "Gar" are Chinese, not NY or CA, dialect differences.
kperry
>
> Sorry, I've come into this thread a little late. What style is Duncan
> practicing in
> the opening credits of the series?
That is a bit of an open hand form #4 called 'Small Cross Patterns' from
the Choi Li Fut, Kung Fu style.
Peace,
Katherine
Prez DDI
Digital Dyslexics of the World -- UNTIE!
kperry
>
> Dana S. Wheeler wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, I've come into this thread a little late. What style is Duncan
> > practicing in
> > the opening credits of the series?
>
> That is a bit of an open hand form #4 called 'Small Cross Patterns' from
> the Choi Li Fut, Kung Fu style.
Mea Culpa, :::grumble:::
Three years studying and three diplomas and I bloody well typo'd the
style name.
Please, don't tell Tai Si Fu! ;>
It is more accurately:
Choy Li Fut
Dana S. Wheeler
practicing in
the opening credits of the series?
Ka'zar
I think Duncan does a little bit of Kenjutsu because he learned from a
samurai in the episode called "The Samurai"
Ka'zar
Chris Bare wrote:
> What martial art is Duncan often shown practicing solo with his katana?
> It is real, or just something that looks cool on TV?
JSantwan
>samurai in the episode called "The Samurai"
>Ka'zar
>
True, But when it comes to the sword, he is pathetic in the Samurai way. NO ONE
fighting with a katana fights like he does. The sword would be destroyed.
JSantwan
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