Q: Is Methos' Watcher tattoo "real"?
Stanwood Campsmith
got to wondering how an immortal's heal-o-matic powers would deal with
tattoos and other decorative piercings (i.e. earrings, nose-rings,
navel-rings, etc.).
Even if the heal-o-matic only worked on the surface pin-holes from the
tattoo needle, would'nt there be enough *visible* evidence to cause the
Watcher tattoo artist to blow Adam Pierson's cover?
<Just trying to research canon on this....>
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CarylJ
Since Adam Pierson is a researcher in the Watcher Organization, does he have
to have a tattoo? Or is it only field Watchers who have them?
But, and this clearly is not official canon, if he does have a tattoo, I
think he must rise each morning and apply a fresh press-on one (like from
Cracker Jacks?), because I agree that tattoos shouldn't 'take' if one is
Immortal.
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TBird
<st...@sturec.com> writes:
>In a fit of heat/humidity induced insomia, last night my fevered brain
>got to wondering how an immortal's heal-o-matic powers would deal with
>tattoos and other decorative piercings (i.e. earrings, nose-rings,
>navel-rings, etc.).
>
>Even if the heal-o-matic only worked on the surface pin-holes from the
>tattoo needle, would'nt there be enough *visible* evidence to cause the
>Watcher tattoo artist to blow Adam Pierson's cover?
>
><Just trying to research canon on this....>
This has come up before - but I don't actually recall seeing a tattoo in Adam
Peirson. Not myself, anyway. I mean, I haven't actually noticed his wrists or
that we were given an opportunity to see it or not. I suppose he would have
one, even just being a lowly researcher. Maybe he only painted one on when he
knew he'd be seeing another Watcher?
TBird <----pondering
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GinjerB
>In a fit of heat/humidity induced insomia, last night my fevered brain
>got to wondering how an immortal's heal-o-matic powers would deal with
>tattoos and other decorative piercings (i.e. earrings, nose-rings,
>navel-rings, etc.).
>
>Even if the heal-o-matic only worked on the surface pin-holes from the
>tattoo needle, would'nt there be enough *visible* evidence to cause the
>Watcher tattoo artist to blow Adam Pierson's cover?
>
><Just trying to research canon on this....>
specifically to change in WHITE SILENCE had to do with the tatoo that my
created Immortal character gets one nite when he's drunk. What I wrote was that
it faded much more quickly than would be normal. (I had a wonderful scientific
justification on hand for this!) I was told by by TPTB that wouldn't be the
case--the Horseman Caspian was cited as an example of a tatooed Immortal.
As to Adam Pierson's Watcher tatoo (and you can see it in a couples of epis)
what happened to it after he left the Watchers is --vague.
GinjerB
Ka'zar
I think even though the needle mark would definitely heal because of his
regeneration the dye or ink in the tattoo would still show up.
Yes if he has a tattoo the tattoo is real.
Ka'zar
Stanwood Campsmith wrote:
> In a fit of heat/humidity induced insomia, last night my fevered brain
> got to wondering how an immortal's heal-o-matic powers would deal with
> tattoos and other decorative piercings (i.e. earrings, nose-rings,
> navel-rings, etc.).
>
> Even if the heal-o-matic only worked on the surface pin-holes from the
> tattoo needle, would'nt there be enough *visible* evidence to cause the
> Watcher tattoo artist to blow Adam Pierson's cover?
>
> <Just trying to research canon on this....>
> --
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Jette Goldie
CarylJ wrote in
>Since Adam Pierson is a researcher in the Watcher Organization, does he
have
>to have a tattoo? Or is it only field Watchers who have them?
>
Oh, he quite clearly has tattoos in at least two eps. In fact
he seems to have a tattoo on each wrist at one point! <g>
I don't see why an Immortal cannot have a tattoo. It is NOT
a scar or an injury, it is harmless ink injected under the
skin. Yes the needle punctures can take a while to heal
for us mere mortals (less than a week actually) so the
faster healing ability might give the game away for
an Immortal - but perhaps Methos learned tattoo work
some time in his past and did his own tattoo? Or
perhaps there is an Immie tattooist out there doing
any tattoos that Immies want?
Jette
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Ka'zar wrote in message <37725ED9...@home.com>...
=>Methos is a real watcher.
=>I think even though the needle mark would definitely heal because of his
=>regeneration the dye or ink in the tattoo would still show up.
=>Yes if he has a tattoo the tattoo is real.
=>Ka'zar
=>
I assume the tattoo would be easy to remove on an immortal. Just cut or
burn away the dyed flesh and the healed flesh should be normal. Easy but
painful.
ASLotV
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"Maximum effect with minimum effort."
=>Stanwood Campsmith wrote:
=>
=>> In a fit of heat/humidity induced insomia, last night my fevered brain
=>> got to wondering how an immortal's heal-o-matic powers would deal with
=>> tattoos and other decorative piercings (i.e. earrings, nose-rings,
=>> navel-rings, etc.).
=>>
=>> Even if the heal-o-matic only worked on the surface pin-holes from the
=>> tattoo needle, would'nt there be enough *visible* evidence to cause the
=>> Watcher tattoo artist to blow Adam Pierson's cover?
=>>
=>=> <Just trying to research canon on this....>
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CarylJ
> Oh, he quite clearly has tattoos in at least two eps. In fact
> he seems to have a tattoo on each wrist at one point! <g>
>
> I don't see why an Immortal cannot have a tattoo. It is NOT
> a scar or an injury, it is harmless ink injected under the
> skin. Yes the needle punctures can take a while to heal
> for us mere mortals (less than a week actually) so the
> faster healing ability might give the game away for
> an Immortal - but perhaps Methos learned tattoo work
> some time in his past and did his own tattoo? Or
> perhaps there is an Immie tattooist out there doing
> any tattoos that Immies want?
>
Is there any official word about what happens to the bullet(s), etc., that
have 'hit' DM, et. al.? Because I tend to equate tattoo ink with a bullet --
something foreign to an Immortal's body, to be expelled as part of the
'healing' process? Which is why I don't think tattoos would 'take'...
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Just wondering (as always),
CarylJ
Stanwood Campsmith
CarylJ wrote:
<snip>
> >
> And I know it's impolite to 'answer' a questions with another question but:
>
> Since Adam Pierson is a researcher in the Watcher Organization, does he have
> to have a tattoo? Or is it only field Watchers who have them?
>
Good question! If it were up to me, I'd probably have slighty different tattoos
for the various "ranks" and "jobs" within the organization -- all based on a
common design, but with subtle embellishments to indicate rank and/or job-type.
>
> But, and this clearly is not official canon, if he does have a tattoo, I
> think he must rise each morning and apply a fresh press-on one (like from
> Cracker Jacks?), because I agree that tattoos shouldn't 'take' if one is
> Immortal.
>
That was the stopping-point in my mental thrashings that allowed me to sleep,
but I would still like to learn *THE* answer...
>
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Jette Goldie
Stanwood Campsmith wrote
>
>
>CarylJ wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> >
>> And I know it's impolite to 'answer' a questions with another question
but:
>>
>> Since Adam Pierson is a researcher in the Watcher Organization, does he
have
>> to have a tattoo? Or is it only field Watchers who have them?
>>
>
>Good question! If it were up to me, I'd probably have slighty different
tattoos
>for the various "ranks" and "jobs" within the organization -- all based on
a
>common design, but with subtle embellishments to indicate rank and/or
job-type.
>
>>
But since one can move between the jobs freely this might
be difficult to maintain. For instance, it is established that
new graduates from the Academy start as historians/researchers
then *perhaps* get a field assignment, then perhaps spend
a time in research again if your assignment dies before getting
a new field assignment.
Kish home
Quoting Jette's but....
>But since one can move between the jobs freely this
> might be difficult to maintain. For instance, it is
>established that new graduates from the Academy
>start as historians/researchers then *perhaps* get a
>field assignment, then perhaps spend a time in
>research again if your assignment dies before getting
>a new field assignment.
Adding my but...
But if they started with a really simple design (a plain circle thing),
then got say a swoop added in the circle for 3 years of research, another swoop
for field work, a third swoop when they were in charge of other watchers. Then
they could have little dots of color to mark merit: a purple heart to signify,
well, purple heart type heroism; gold stars to represent, hmm, gold stars like
ranks in the military;.... you get the idea.
You know, recreating the watcher tattoo had Woody Allen type potential,
don't you think?
Highlanderholic <instigator>
TBird
(GinjerB) writes:
><<I know that the books aren't canon, but---one of the things that I had
>specifically to change in WHITE SILENCE had to do with the tatoo that my
>created Immortal character gets one nite when he's drunk. What I wrote was
>that
>it faded much more quickly than would be normal. (I had a wonderful
>scientific
>justification on hand for this!) I was told by by TPTB that wouldn't be the
>case--the Horseman Caspian was cited as an example of a tatooed Immortal.
>As to Adam Pierson's Watcher tatoo (and you can see it in a couples of epis)
>what happened to it after he left the Watchers is --vague.
>
>GinjerB
Oh fine - make me go read White Silence again! :-)
OT- Ginger, will you be coming out for Gathering 5 in Denver?
TBird <---- hoping to finally get the thing autographed......
<it's been to England and back>
Stanwood Campsmith
Kish home wrote:
> *snipping tattoo ideas from CarylJ which are listed below*
>
> Quoting Jette's but....
> >But since one can move between the jobs freely this
> > might be difficult to maintain. For instance, it is
> >established that new graduates from the Academy
> >start as historians/researchers then *perhaps* get a
> >field assignment, then perhaps spend a time in
> >research again if your assignment dies before getting
> >a new field assignment.
>
> Adding my but...
> But if they started with a really simple design (a plain circle thing),
> then got say a swoop added in the circle for 3 years of research, another swoop
> for field work, a third swoop when they were in charge of other watchers. Then
> they could have little dots of color to mark merit: a purple heart to signify,
> well, purple heart type heroism; gold stars to represent, hmm, gold stars like
> ranks in the military;.... you get the idea.
>
This is *exactly* the type of incremental tattooing I was thinking of! Thanks for
the exellent description.
>
> You know, recreating the watcher tattoo had Woody Allen type potential,
> don't you think?
>
> Highlanderholic <instigator>
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GinjerB
>><<I know that the books aren't canon, but---one of the things that I had
>>specifically to change in WHITE SILENCE had to do with the tatoo that my
>>created Immortal character gets one nite when he's drunk. What I wrote was
>>that
>>it faded much more quickly than would be normal. (I had a wonderful
>>scientific
>>justification on hand for this!) I was told by by TPTB that wouldn't be the
>>case--the Horseman Caspian was cited as an example of a tatooed Immortal.
>>As to Adam Pierson's Watcher tatoo (and you can see it in a couples of epis)
>>what happened to it after he left the Watchers is --vague.
>>
>>GinjerB
>
>Oh fine - make me go read White Silence again! :-)
>
>OT- Ginger, will you be coming out for Gathering 5 in Denver?
>
>TBird <---- hoping to finally get the thing autographed......
><it's been to England and back>
<<It's next year, right? It's possible--I can tell you that I've been asked to
guest at the Legacy con, the one the group is holding in the Spring in
Washington, DC?
They are, of course, planning to have many more much more faqmous people, but
Jo Sherman and I are within driving distance, and thus cheaper, so...<g>
GinjerB
>
>
John Biltz
would be scheduled close together after such a long gap with out one. I
don't think I would be able to get 2 long weekends off in a short period of
time.
Torn Moose
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Shelby
Gathering was in November so May would seem like
a logical choice (half a year away). It's just
that Gathering is not doing it in Nov this time.
Oh come on John - you're retired remember. You
can take off anytime you want! You must come to
both or one group will be sorely disappointed.
~Shelby
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John Biltz
start working again by fall. I do not want to start working away at my
savings. Just got my Credit card bill for my travels, ouch.
Bill Paying Moose
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Helga Abendroth
*snip*
><<I know that the books aren't canon, but---one of the things that I had
>specifically to change in WHITE SILENCE had to do with the tatoo that my
>created Immortal character gets one nite when he's drunk. What I wrote was that
>it faded much more quickly than would be normal. (I had a wonderful scientific
>justification on hand for this!) I was told by by TPTB that wouldn't be the
>case--the Horseman Caspian was cited as an example of a tatooed Immortal.
>As to Adam Pierson's Watcher tatoo (and you can see it in a couples of epis)
>what happened to it after he left the Watchers is --vague.
>
>GinjerB
>
Not vague at all. He had simply to peel the skin off. With or without
local anaethetics - the effect would be the same. The skin would grow
back in a few - the tattoo would be gone...
Helga <cilinging to logic. That means of course that caspian would
have to redo his tattoos after a severe injury to them>
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helen oliver
thank you.
highlandergirl:-)
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him, especially liked the stuff from Xenon.
Shomeret
We hope that TCBOO doesn't apply in this case. There is a Methos novel called
The Captive Soul by Josepha Sherman. I liked it, but fannish opinion is very
much divided about this one.
Shomeret
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