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Why the cut on Kalas' neck did not heal?

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Linda Maughan

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Jun 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/12/96
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An immortal's body repairs itself self after it has been injured, this we
all know. I understand why St. Cloud did not grow a new hand after
Duncan cut it off, but I do not understand why the cut on Kalas' neck
left a scar and did not repair it self. A preimmortal will scar, but
once they become immortal they should not. Does anyone have any thoughts
on the subject?

Just wondering?

Sleepless in TF


MJordan104

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Jun 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/12/96
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In article <4pnhmn$15...@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com>, FZS...@prodigy.com
(Linda Maughan) writes:

The most sensitive area of an immortals body is the neck. A wound deep
enough may not heal 100% and therefore will leave a scar. Duncan cut
Kalas' throat with cut glass from a broken window. Duncan may have put an
unsual amount of pressure when he slashed Kalas, creating a deep wound.
Since the way to kill an immortal is to take off their head, and that
wound seemed to be a fourth deep, it would reason to be a major, major cut
and wouldn't heal back to it's original condition. (Does that make
sense?)

Monica
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"She caught your eye like one of those pointy hook latches that used to
dangle from screen doors and would fly up whenever you banged the door
open again." by Rich Murphy.

James Martin

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Jun 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/13/96
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Linda Maughan Wrote:
>An immortal's body repairs itself self after it has been injured, this
we
>all know. I understand why St. Cloud did not grow a new hand after
>Duncan cut it off, but I do not understand why the cut on Kalas' neck
>left a scar and did not repair it self. A preimmortal will scar, but
>once they become immortal they should not. Does anyone have any
>thoughts on the subject?

>Just wondering?

There is a precedent for Kalas' neck scar. Remember the Kurgan in
Highlander? He too had had a near death incident and was scarred
permanently. Of course, on the other hand, DM had a sword slice through
the side of his neck in one episode and does not have a scar. The only
thing that I can figure is that it's the primary arteries and such that
don't regenerate. These cuts must have come very close to severing the
spine which is (I guess) the act which actually releases the quickening.


I think that they may have just ignored the cut through DM's neck since
he wouldn't look that good with a scar. Though perhaps they would argue
that the cut wasn't as deep as it looked...

Just my $.02.

-
JAMES MARTIN NCL...@prodigy.com
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are...
B. Banzai


Mark Driver

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Jun 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/13/96
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I honestly think it was just a dum plot line element. The worlds greatest
singer silenced forever kinda vibe.

Mark D


C. PAIGE FOSTER

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Jun 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/13/96
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In article <4pnhmn$15...@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com> Linda Maughan wrote:
>An immortal's body repairs itself self after it has been injured, this we
>all know. I understand why St. Cloud did not grow a new hand after
>Duncan cut it off, but I do not understand why the cut on Kalas' neck
>left a scar and did not repair it self. A preimmortal will scar, but
>once they become immortal they should not. Does anyone have any thoughts
>on the subject?
>
>Just wondering?
>

>Sleepless in TF
>

I forget where, but I've heard that neck wounds leave scars to remind
immortals of their vulnerability, or something to that effect.


Paige

"Lord what fools these mortals be!" -- Puck, (A Midsummer Night's Dream)


Dredd167

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Jun 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/13/96
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As you know, an immortal can't replace a severed limb(unless he sits there
for an hour using leaches to keep his head on.) so by the same token a
really big immortal(Kurgan) and a really little immortal(Kenny) could duke
it out ending in Kenny getting chopped in half from his head down. This
would also release the quickening. I believe that the neck is a null area
because it is the weak point, and therefore will scar. If it didn't,
about five seconds after the head is taken the neck would
regenerate(headless, but otherwise in good condition). The Kurgan's neck
also scarred.

Charles R. Giles

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Jun 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/13/96
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In <4ppe9q$9...@news-e2b.gnn.com> PAI...@gnn.com (C. PAIGE FOSTER)
writes:

There is evidence of this in the first Highlander movie with the cut on
the Kurgan's neck by Ramirez.

Chuck

Sanjo

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Jun 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/14/96
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James Martin wrote:

>
> Linda Maughan Wrote:
> >An immortal's body repairs itself self after it has been injured, this
> we
> >all know. I understand why St. Cloud did not grow a new hand after
> >Duncan cut it off, but I do not understand why the cut on Kalas' neck
> >left a scar and did not repair it self. A preimmortal will scar, but
> >once they become immortal they should not. Does anyone have any
> >thoughts on the subject?
>
> >Just wondering?
>
> There is a precedent for Kalas' neck scar. Remember the Kurgan in
> Highlander? He too had had a near death incident and was scarred
> permanently. Of course, on the other hand, DM had a sword slice through
> the side of his neck in one episode and does not have a scar. The only
> thing that I can figure is that it's the primary arteries and such that
> don't regenerate. These cuts must have come very close to severing the
> spine which is (I guess) the act which actually releases the quickening.
>
> I think that they may have just ignored the cut through DM's neck since
> he wouldn't look that good with a scar. Though perhaps they would argue
> that the cut wasn't as deep as it looked...
>
> Just my $.02.
>
> -
> JAMES MARTIN NCL...@prodigy.com
> Remember, no matter where you go, there you are...
> B. Banzai

Mac is too pretty to scar. Of course, Muhammad Ali would probably disagree.

sanjo.

Sanjo

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Perhaps the neck marks the dividing line between where the quickening resides and where
it doesn't. You know, below the neck, the quickening, above the neck--nothing.

sanjo.

LHanley948

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Jun 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/14/96
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I've often wondered the same thing. Let me know if you figure it out. LH

Patricia Shanahan

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Jun 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/15/96
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James Martin wrote:
>
> Linda Maughan Wrote:
> >An immortal's body repairs itself self after it has been injured, this
> we
> >all know. I understand why St. Cloud did not grow a new hand after
> >Duncan cut it off, but I do not understand why the cut on Kalas' neck
> >left a scar and did not repair it self. A preimmortal will scar, but
> >once they become immortal they should not. Does anyone have any
> >thoughts on the subject?
>
> >Just wondering?
>
> There is a precedent for Kalas' neck scar. Remember the Kurgan in
> Highlander? He too had had a near death incident and was scarred
> permanently. Of course, on the other hand, DM had a sword slice through
> the side of his neck in one episode and does not have a scar.
...

My personal, no real supporting evidence, theory on neck scars is that
they heal to the same extent, although faster, as the same injury would
heal on a mortal.

Duncan's neck injury was a shallow slice from a sharp blade. Kalas' was
a deep cut from a jagged piece of broken glass.

--
Patricia Shanahan
Ps...@cris.com

Louis Scott Phinney

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Jun 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/16/96
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> I believe I have an answer to question concerning necks and
immortals. THe neck is the one vulnerable point on an immortal. If
their heads coem off their shoulders, they die. What better way to
emphasize this vulnerability by having neck injuries heal inadequately?
By the way, Kalas wasn't the only immortal to have been depicted with
a neck injury. The Kurgen in the original movie hade a scar given to
him by Ramirez.


In <4pnhmn$15...@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com> FZS...@prodigy.com (Linda


Maughan) writes:
>
>An immortal's body repairs itself self after it has been injured, this
we
>all know. I understand why St. Cloud did not grow a new hand after
>Duncan cut it off, but I do not understand why the cut on Kalas' neck

>left a scar and did not repair it self. A preimmortal will scar, but
>once they become immortal they should not. Does anyone have any
thoughts
>on the subject?
>
>Just wondering?
>

>Sleepless in TF
>


Malpocalypse

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Jun 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/16/96
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would someone please post the highlander win95 theme. My hard drive
crasked and I lost it

Banzai88

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Jun 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/16/96
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In article <4po0m9$4...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, mjord...@aol.com
(MJordan104) writes:

>it would reason to be a major, major cut
>and wouldn't heal back to it's original condition. (Does that make
>sense?)
>
>

So much sense that that's how the folks behind the show have been viewing
it for awhile. (At *least* Oct 95 when they said that at the Gathering II)
Only very deep cuts to the neck (Kalas and the Kurgan, deep enough to mess
up the voice box) leave scars after Immie-dom. Any scars they do have are
from before their "first death."

Chris

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Kaszandra A Liput

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Jun 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/17/96
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>> I believe I have an answer to question concerning necks and
>immortals. THe neck is the one vulnerable point on an immortal. If
>their heads coem off their shoulders, they die. What better way to
>emphasize this vulnerability by having neck injuries heal inadequately?
> By the way, Kalas wasn't the only immortal to have been depicted with
>a neck injury. The Kurgen in the original movie hade a scar given to
>him by Ramirez.

This is something I've often wondered about. I think everyone has surmised
the reasoning is that the neck is their most vulnerable point, but if external
cutting scars, why do they heal after, say, a hanging? If the skin doesn't
heal quickly and properly, why would it be that the head will reattach itself
to the spinal cord? Any thoughts on this one?

-Kaz

John Edwards

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Jun 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/20/96
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The Ever-so-wise wincapi...@usa.pipeline.com(Malpocalypse)
once said:

->would someone please post the highlander win95 theme. My hard drive
->crasked and I lost it

How about someone post a pointer to said highlander Win95
theme?

John
Fritz get up for god's sake. Get up! They've killed Fritz. They've
killed Fritz. Those lousy stinking yellow fairies, they've killed
Fritz! Those horrible atrocity-filled vermin. Those despicable
animal warmongers. They've Killed Fritz Max - Wizards

bwpi...@gmail.com

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Sep 12, 2015, 3:25:19 PM9/12/15
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On Wednesday, June 12, 1996 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Linda Maughan wrote:
> An immortal's body repairs itself self after it has been injured, this we
> all know. I understand why St. Cloud did not grow a new hand after
> Duncan cut it off, but I do not understand why the cut on Kalas' neck
> left a scar and did not repair it self. A preimmortal will scar, but
> once they become immortal they should not. Does anyone have any thoughts
> on the subject?
>
> Just wondering?
>
> Sleepless in TF

I am from the future

Edgar Governo

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Sep 26, 2015, 2:52:59 AM9/26/15
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The answer to the original question is that Highlander established in
the very first film that near-beheadings leave a scar, as it did with
The Kurgan--but I admire your sheer moxy for responding to a
19-year-old thread.

How did this post even come up for you? Google Groups, I'm guessing?

Edgar Governo
Historian of Things That Never Were
http://www.mts.net/~arphaxad/history.html

You can also visit my homepage:
http://www.mts.net/~arphaxad

Personal email is encouraged, as always.

Jill Sylvan

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Jun 14, 2016, 1:50:39 PM6/14/16
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There is life here! Actually, Highlander is stuttering back to life.

So there're these three guys doing a podcast on the series. Please come and enjoy.
https://soundcloud.com/highlander-rewatched

There is also http://fpnet.podbean.com/e/blood-of-kings-episode-0-mission-statement-plus-a-bonus/?token=f066d03275dd4402e12e7285e171837a

They later interviewed David Abramowitz, who had a lot to say about the Highlander Musical folks down in Australia are working on.

There are good, there are bad, there are ugly... I'm really enjoying this year for Highlander.



daveni...@hotmail.com

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Jun 29, 2016, 10:41:59 PM6/29/16
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On Wednesday, 12 June 1996 03:00:00 UTC-4, MJordan104 wrote:
(Does that make
> sense?)

Not really. I never bought that idea. The real reason is because original the Immortals (HL1) healed rather than regenerated and had scars.

none Morty Abzug

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In article <9439da47-aa1f-4703...@googlegroups.com>,
"" <daveni...@hotmail.com> spake thusly:
My USENET server has limited retention. So I can't see the context of
the post you are replying to. This is actually normal for those of us
with traditional USENET newsreaders. Don't know how many of us are
still traipsing arouund. :) The traditional solution to this problem
is to quote more context from the original article. :)

- Morty

julie...@gmail.com

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Oct 24, 2018, 10:31:46 PM10/24/18
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On Thursday, June 13, 1996 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Dredd167 wrote:
> As you know, an immortal can't replace a severed limb(unless he sits there
> for an hour using leaches to keep his head on.) so by the same token a
> really big immortal(Kurgan) and a really little immortal(Kenny) could duke
> it out ending in Kenny getting chopped in half from his head down. This
> would also release the quickening. I believe that the neck is a null area
> because it is the weak point, and therefore will scar. If it didn't,
> about five seconds after the head is taken the neck would
> regenerate(headless, but otherwise in good condition). The Kurgan's neck
> also scarred.

I like this answer!! It makes sense.

Juliana Chizda

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Oct 26, 2018, 7:07:09 AM10/26/18
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On Wednesday, June 12, 1996 at 4:00:00 PM UTC+9, Linda Maughan wrote:
> An immortal's body repairs itself self after it has been injured, this we
> all know. I understand why St. Cloud did not grow a new hand after
> Duncan cut it off, but I do not understand why the cut on Kalas' neck
> left a scar and did not repair it self. A preimmortal will scar, but
> once they become immortal they should not. Does anyone have any thoughts
> on the subject?
>
> Just wondering?
>
> Sleepless in TF

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