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>I know that Richie was 'born' again as an Immortal sometime in the second
>season (I don't know which episode), but all through the first season (at
>least as far as I've seen) Richie has never been considered an Immortal,
>he neither senses them and Duncan doesn't treat him as an Immortal (or
>Immortal in training). I know in "The Gathering" that Connor says that
>"...that the boy will need looking after..."., possibly implying that he
>was an Immortal and needed looking after. If so, do both Duncan and Connor
>know that he will become an immortal?
> Please clear this up for me :)
>Thanks, Rifleman
As far as I know, there are no episodes that confirm your speculation. In fact,
pre-immie buzz was never mentioned... only here in speculation. The episode you
refer to where Ritchie becomes an immie is "The Darkness" which is season two,
episode four. They barely touch on what exactly happened though until they meet
Ritchie and Tessa's killer in season 3.
Gary Thompson
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Sorry for not being able to name episodes, but in the episode with the
two French bank robbers, an older immortal found a youth and seemed to
know he was immortal. He took the youngster under his wing and
trained him to be a master criminal. When he felt his protoge was
"ready," he said so and shot him, stopping his aging in his prime.
Any kind souls able to offer episode or character names without much
difficulty?
And in "Avenging Angel," Duncan *seemed* to know what was happening
when the wounded psycho first ran in front of his car. And I don't
think I remember a buzzing, just a knowledge of what was happening.
Ah, but since I am usually cooking dinner while I watch, I make no
claims to solid knowledge of any episode.
Greg
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I was wondering if Duncan picked up such a buzz in "Avenging Angel."
Cahill was running through traffic with a not-yet-fatal wound when
Duncan sensed him. He seemed to die for the first time in the Templar
museum once Duncan caught up with him.
Or did he actually die when first stabbed by the whore? Opinions?
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try doing a netsearch and you'll probably find it.
they have descriptions of the tv episodes for the first and second
season.
richie becomes an immortal in the fourth episode.
at the end he and tessa are mugged.
the mugger shoots both, but only tessa dies.
that's it. no complicated events that lead up to his "rebirth."
tri
There is none, but the producers and Adrian Paul both said, on numerous
occassions, that Richie's immortality was planned from the start. Check the
Highlander Archive for Adrian Paul's AOL interviews, they shed some interesting
light on the subject (not to mention Adrian Paul's BLATENT plugging of his own
fan club).
Regards,
Aarethin D'Nash
P.E.A.C.E. He mentioned it every other answer.
>I know that Richie was 'born' again as an Immortal sometime in the second
>season (I don't know which episode), but all through the first season (at
>least as far as I've seen) Richie has never been considered an Immortal,
>he neither senses them and Duncan doesn't treat him as an Immortal (or
>Immortal in training). I know in "The Gathering" that Connor says that
>"...that the boy will need looking after..."., possibly implying that he
>was an Immortal and needed looking after. If so, do both Duncan and
Connor
>know that he will become an immortal?
> Please clear this up for me :)
This sparks another question for me. Since Duncan already knew that Richie
was going to be Immortal someday, and Richie had an interest in sword
fighting, why didn't Duncan teach Richie how to use a sword -before- his
first death? This would have saved a lot of angst in 'Eye For An Eye' when
Richie was desperately preparing for battle with Annie. In one episode (I
believe 'Eye Of the Beholder') Richie, still mortal, asked Duncan to teach
him and Dunc said, "Absolutely not." Wasn't he just putting Richie in that
much more danger by -not- preparing him for what was to come? After all,
he didn't have to -tell- Richie that his life would one day depend on what
he was learning.
A very confused Mesia
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the eggplant ranger
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NinjaBlueFootedBoobyZord power
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"Would it confuse it if we ran away some more?"
"Oh , shut up. And go and change your armor!"
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"Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so." -Ford Prefect
"With your shield or on it." -Lt. James Brody
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the eggplant ranger
Plesiosaur Seven-Headed-Hydra ThunderZord
NinjaBlueFootedBoobyZord power
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"Would it confuse it if we ran away some more?"
"Oh, shut up. And go and change your armor!"
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"Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so." -Ford Prefect
"With your sheild or on it." -Lt. James Brody
Also, there was also an episode where Ritchie was looking for his parents.
Based on many of the comments Duncan made, you can infer that he knows
Ritchies is/will be an immortal and therefore will never know his parents.
You could also argue that Duncan's comments are just reflections of his
own past musings on his lineage.
I guess the series producers/writers are the only ones who know for sure.
I think I read somewhere that they planned Ritchie's immortality from the
start.
[Snip]
> >Thanks, Rifleman
>
[Snip]
> They barely touch on what exactly happened though until they meet
> Ritchie and Tessa's killer in season 3.
> Gary Thompson
> "The Psycho"
> 72607...@compuserve.com
> HTTP://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/psychotps
What was the name of the episode where they meet up with the killer
of Richie, and Tessa? I don't think that I've seen it... What was
it about? What was the story line? Who was in it?
I'm just curious...
Jeff DeKelver
deke...@vnet.ibm.com
>What was the name of the episode where they meet up with the killer
>of Richie, and Tessa? I don't think that I've seen it... What was
>it about? What was the story line? Who was in it?
>
>I'm just curious...
Don't know the title. Duncan and Richie found out the little schmuck's
name, and tracked them down. Duncan didn't want revenge; he told Richie he'd
been down that road, and it didn't lead anywhere. Richie didn't believe him
and went after him. And of COURSE the kid was so stoned when he shot Richie
and Tessa he had no idea he'd done it. Richie convinced him REAL fast, though.
Almost threw him off a building, but the little butt-pimple had a wife and a
kid on the way, so Richie didn't do it.
Sigh.
And there was a counter-plot running regarding MacLeod and an immie who
used Rottweilers to take down another immortal and then hold him until they
could be killed. Nice guy, huh?
Regards,
Aarethin D'Nash
Can you tell I miss Tessa?
Flame
There can be only me,
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On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, J. M. Reinhard wrote:
> But didn't Connor and Richard Moll (Slan?) show up within a few moments of
> this? I assume you're talking about the ep. where Richie snuck into the
> shop to help himself to some antiques?
>
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>
No, you're thinking of two different epsiodes. The one with Slan was
the first, "The Gathering." The one refered to above featured Joan Jett, and
was later in the season.
Regards,
Aarethin D'Nash
God, Joan, that HAIR!
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In article <310FEC...@vnet.ibm.com>, deke...@vnet.ibm.com says...
>What was the name of the episode where they meet up with the killer
>of Richie, and Tessa? I don't think that I've seen it... What was
>it about? What was the story line? Who was in it?
>
>I'm just curious...
Don't know the title. Duncan and Richie found out the little schmuck's
name, and tracked them down. Duncan didn't want revenge; he told Richie he'd
been down that road, and it didn't lead anywhere. Richie didn't believe him
and went after him. And of COURSE the kid was so stoned when he shot Richie
and Tessa he had no idea he'd done it. Richie convinced him REAL fast, though.
Almost threw him off a building, but the little butt-pimple had a wife and a
kid on the way, so Richie didn't do it.
Sigh.
And there was a counter-plot running regarding MacLeod and an immie who
used Rottweilers to take down another immortal and then hold him until they
could be killed. Nice guy, huh?
Regards,
Aarethin D'Nash
Can you tell I miss Tessa?
The episode was 'Leader of the pack'. By the way, when will Richie learn
to trust what Mac is telling him and stop running off half-cocked? It can
get a little annoying.
Ron
-- Brian White whit...@uidaho.edu