Connor's favorite poison?
John Hines
In the first Highlander movie, after Connor goes back to the Garden to
retrieve his sword, he follows Brenda to a bar in the neighborhood. She is
sitting at the far end of the bar, and Connor enters and orders something
to drink, a double "something". I can't make out what it is he orders --
is it a kind of drink or a specific liquor? Just curious to know what 400+
years of experimenting has led his palate to fancy.
John
Matthew Noel
Glenmorangie: a fine Scotch malt whiskey.
For more information about it, check out the web page at:
http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/jhb/whisky/smws/208.html
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In article <hines-290...@ts3-39.upenn.edu>,
hi...@pharm.med.upenn.edu (John Hines) writes:
> In the first Highlander movie, after Connor goes back to the Garden to
>retrieve his sword, he follows Brenda to a bar in the neighborhood. She
is
>sitting at the far end of the bar, and Connor enters and orders something
>to drink, a double "something". I can't make out what it is he orders --
>is it a kind of drink or a specific liquor? Just curious to know what
400+
>years of experimenting has led his palate to fancy.
From the FAQ:
*1.5) What was the drink that Connor ordered in the bar after following
Brenda there?
Glenmorangie. a fine Scotch malt whisky.
Also from the FAQ:
*9.2) Where can I get another copy of the FAQ?
For the time being, just ask me, Debbie Douglass
<doug...@chaplin.ndhm.gtegsc.com> I'll try to post this on the USENET
newsgroups rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.sf.movies, alt.tv.highlander, and
alt.cult.movies with some semblance of regularity.
If you don't have access to USENET or you just want a copy in-between
postings you can request a copy by sending email to me at
<doug...@chaplin.ndhm.gtegsc.com>. If you include 'Send HL FAQ' in
the Subject line your request will be handled automatically. Or you
can get it by anonymous FTP from mithral.iit.edu - /pub/highlander.
Or you can access it on World Wide Web at
'http://mithral.iit.edu:8080/highlander/FAQ/'. If you want to find out
if there is a later version out send and email to
<doug...@chaplin.ndhm.gtegsc.com> and include 'Query HL FAQ' in the
Subject line the latest version information will sent to you.
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Kathleen Kelley
John Hines wrote:
>
> In the first Highlander movie, after Connor goes back to the Garden to
> retrieve his sword, he follows Brenda to a bar in the neighborhood. She is
> sitting at the far end of the bar, and Connor enters and orders something
> to drink, a double "something". I can't make out what it is he orders --
> is it a kind of drink or a specific liquor? Just curious to know what 400+
> years of experimenting has led his palate to fancy.
>
He orders Glenmorangie (a fine scotch malt whisky).
(All life's answers are in the FAQ) :)
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John Hines
>
>
> In the first Highlander movie, after Connor goes back to the Garden to
> retrieve his sword, he follows Brenda to a bar in the neighborhood. She is
> sitting at the far end of the bar, and Connor enters and orders something
> to drink, a double "something". I can't make out what it is he orders --
> is it a kind of drink or a specific liquor? Just curious to know what 400+
> years of experimenting has led his palate to fancy.
>
> John
Just wanted to publicly thank everyone who responded to my query.
This group is one of the most considerate that I have ever had the pleasure
to lurk in. I look forward to returning the favor someday.
John
Chris Polubinski
Matthew Noel (mmn...@vms.cis.pitt.edu) wrote:
: hi...@pharm.med.upenn.edu (John Hines) wrote:
[Question on Connor's drinking preferences snipped]
: Glenmorangie: a fine Scotch malt whiskey.
Guess I'm feeling either nit-picky or in an educational kind of mood:
Scotch is a drink.
Scots are a people.
Scottish is anything belonging to those people.
Chris Polubinski (What do you mean my name doesn't sound Scottish???)
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Boss Lady
In article <4m2p58$3...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
mmn...@vms.cis.pitt.edu "Matthew Noel" writes:
> hi...@pharm.med.upenn.edu (John Hines) wrote:
> >
> > In the first Highlander movie, after Connor goes back to the Garden to
> >retrieve his sword, he follows Brenda to a bar in the neighborhood. She is
> >sitting at the far end of the bar, and Connor enters and orders something
> >to drink, a double "something". I can't make out what it is he orders --
> >is it a kind of drink or a specific liquor? Just curious to know what 400+
> >years of experimenting has led his palate to fancy.
> >
> >John
>
> Glenmorangie: a fine Scotch malt whiskey.
>
Where are you all getting this *fine Scotch malt* thing? It's a
bog standard Scotch single malt. It is an extremely well hyped
*commercial* malt.
There are roughly 3,000 malt whiskies in Scotland. What's best is
a matter of individual taste.
--
Bosslady
Nemo Me Impune Lacessit
Rob Thornton
hi...@pharm.med.upenn.edu (John Hines) headbutted his keyboard
and pounded out:
> In the first Highlander movie, after Connor goes back to the Garden to
>retrieve his sword, he follows Brenda to a bar in the neighborhood. She is
>sitting at the far end of the bar, and Connor enters and orders something
>to drink, a double "something". I can't make out what it is he orders --
>is it a kind of drink or a specific liquor? Just curious to know what 400+
>years of experimenting has led his palate to fancy.
>John
Good question. When I first saw this movie, a friend of mine was
positive that he said "double Drambouie on ice". So we promptly went
out and bought a ($25) bottle of this foul Scottish concoction just to
show how proud we were of our Scottish descent.
After we got through squeegeeing our toungues, we decided that
there had to be a mistake. Granted, haggis had the same effect on us,
but ya' don't see Conner asking Brenda if she prepared some nice
sheeps gut for their big night out, now do ya'? No way that the
refined palatte of a 400 year old would be quaffing down that stuff.
Anyhow, after years of rewatching the tape, I think he's saying
"Glenn Maringee". I'm not sure about the spelling, and I've been too
cautious try to find it- bad track record with Scottish foods. If you
are brave enough, then good luck and remember that Alka Seltzer now
comes in caplets!
Any other opinions on what he says?
-Rob
"You only need two things in life: WD-40 to make things go,
and Duct Tape to make them stop"- I'm not really sure who first said
this
kit mason
On Thu, 2 May 1996, Rob Thornton wrote:
> hi...@pharm.med.upenn.edu (John Hines) headbutted his keyboard
> and pounded out:
>
>
> > In the first Highlander movie, after Connor goes back to the Garden to
> >retrieve his sword, he follows Brenda to a bar in the neighborhood. She is
> >sitting at the far end of the bar, and Connor enters and orders something
> >to drink, a double "something". I can't make out what it is he orders --
> >is it a kind of drink or a specific liquor? Just curious to know what 400+
> >years of experimenting has led his palate to fancy.
>
> >John
>
>
> Good question. When I first saw this movie, a friend of mine was
> positive that he said "double Drambouie on ice". So we promptly went
> out and bought a ($25) bottle of this foul Scottish concoction just to
> show how proud we were of our Scottish descent.
Drambuie is Scotch whiskey with heather honey. It's an acquired taste,
and meant for sipping, not gulping.
> After we got through squeegeeing our toungues, we decided that
> there had to be a mistake. Granted, haggis had the same effect on us,
> but ya' don't see Conner asking Brenda if she prepared some nice
> sheeps gut for their big night out, now do ya'? No way that the
> refined palatte of a 400 year old would be quaffing down that stuff.
Actually, when I've had haggis, you just eat the stuffing, which tastes
like a giblet stuffing from a turkey. It's not bad.
> Anyhow, after years of rewatching the tape, I think he's saying
> "Glenn Maringee". I'm not sure about the spelling, and I've been too
> cautious try to find it- bad track record with Scottish foods. If you
> are brave enough, then good luck and remember that Alka Seltzer now
> comes in caplets!
Glenmorangie is a good single-malt Scotch, again meant for sipping and
appreciation.
> Any other opinions on what he says?
No -- but I'll be interested in your next interpretations.
Kit
Leonard Ernest Hudson
Chris Polubinski (chr...@max.tiac.net) wrote:
: Guess I'm feeling either nit-picky or in an educational kind of mood:
:
: Scotch is a drink.
: Scots are a people.
: Scottish is anything belonging to those people.
Well, to be very nit-picky, Scotch is a synonym for Scottish. That is, in
addition to referring to Scotch Whiskey, the word "Scotch" is also used to
denote anything of or pertaining to Scotland or her people.
PAX!
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In <4m9j41$p...@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> rth...@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu (Rob
Thornton) writes:
>
>hi...@pharm.med.upenn.edu (John Hines) headbutted his keyboard
>and pounded out:
>
>
>> In the first Highlander movie, after Connor goes back to the
Garden to
>>retrieve his sword, he follows Brenda to a bar in the neighborhood.
She is
>>sitting at the far end of the bar, and Connor enters and orders
something
>>to drink, a double "something". I can't make out what it is he
orders --
>>is it a kind of drink or a specific liquor? Just curious to know
what 400+
>>years of experimenting has led his palate to fancy.
>
>>John
>
>
>Good question. When I first saw this movie, a friend of mine was
>positive that he said "double Drambouie on ice". So we promptly went
>out and bought a ($25) bottle of this foul Scottish concoction just to
>show how proud we were of our Scottish descent.
>there had to be a mistake. Granted, haggis had the same effect on us,
>but ya' don't see Conner asking Brenda if she prepared some nice
>sheeps gut for their big night out, now do ya'? No way that the
>refined palatte of a 400 year old would be quaffing down that stuff.
>"Glenn Maringee". I'm not sure about the spelling, and I've been too
>cautious try to find it- bad track record with Scottish foods. If you
>are brave enough, then good luck and remember that Alka Seltzer now
>comes in caplets!
>
>
>
>
>"You only need two things in life: WD-40 to make things go,
> and Duct Tape to make them stop"- I'm not really sure who first said
>this
>
the rocks.
Glenmorangie is a Scotish whiskey from MacDonald and Sons. Very good,
with a very slight orangeish aftertaste. However, it is a bit
expensive.
The Rain King
In article <hines-290...@ts3-39.upenn.edu>, hi...@pharm.med.upenn.edu (John Hines) writes:
>
> In the first Highlander movie, after Connor goes back to the Garden to
> retrieve his sword, he follows Brenda to a bar in the neighborhood. She is
> sitting at the far end of the bar, and Connor enters and orders something
> to drink, a double "something". I can't make out what it is he orders --
> is it a kind of drink or a specific liquor? Just curious to know what 400+
> years of experimenting has led his palate to fancy.
>
> John
He asks for a Glenmorangie. A highland malt and a damn fine one at that.
Although there are better ones, but then again that's down to taste.
Matthew Noel
Boss Lady <boss...@menageri.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <4m2p58$3...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
> mmn...@vms.cis.pitt.edu "Matthew Noel" writes:
[snip]
>> Glenmorangie: a fine Scotch malt whiskey.
>>
>Where are you all getting this *fine Scotch malt* thing? It's a
>bog standard Scotch single malt. It is an extremely well hyped
>*commercial* malt.
>
>There are roughly 3,000 malt whiskies in Scotland. What's best is
>a matter of individual taste.
>
>--
>Bosslady
>Nemo Me Impune Lacessit
Sorry, I just copied and pasted right from the FAQ. I've never tried
Glenmorangie, so I thought it'd be best just to put down what was written
there. By all means, taste for a drink is quite an individualized
thing...
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Mac
hi...@pharm.med.upenn.edu (John Hines) wrote:
>
> In the first Highlander movie, after Connor goes back to the Garden to
nd orders >something to drink, a double "something". I can't make out what it is >he orders -- is it a kind of drink or a specific =
liquor? Just curious >to know what 400+ years of experimenting has led his palate to fancy.
>
>John
The drink he ordered was Glenmorangie (I hope I spelled this right). It
is a pretty smooth and tasty scotch whisky. Pretty surprising, hunh? If
you like scotch, you should give it a try.
Mac
Diana Hamilton
In article <830921...@menageri.demon.co.uk>,
Boss Lady <boss...@menageri.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Glenmorangie: a fine Scotch malt whiskey.
>>
>Where are you all getting this *fine Scotch malt* thing? It's a
>bog standard Scotch single malt. It is an extremely well hyped
>*commercial* malt.
>
>There are roughly 3,000 malt whiskies in Scotland. What's best is
>a matter of individual taste.
Glemorangie Port Wood Finish is a favorite of mine. Heavily marketed, I
don't care...
But this puts me in mind of a line from "The Professionals" (a
late-70's(?) British cop show with a "Starsky & Hutch feel):
Cop who had Scotch thrown in face by a suspect: He said it was "a
particularly good malt whisky."
Cop's crusty Scottish boss: [sneering] There are no "particularly good"
malt whiskies. They're all DAMN good!
[For further interest I can give pointers to the Malt list- email me.]
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Corbie
Matthew Noel wrote:
> Glenmorangie: a fine Scotch malt whiskey.
Laphroag has more of a peaty taste and iodine bite... my fave!
Corbie
Monkysquat
In article <4mdgt2$c...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, Matthew Noel
<mmn...@vms.cis.pitt.edu> writes:
>Boss Lady <boss...@menageri.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>In article <4m2p58$3...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
>> mmn...@vms.cis.pitt.edu "Matthew Noel" writes:
>
>[snip]
>
>>> Glenmorangie: a fine Scotch malt whiskey.
>>>
>>Where are you all getting this *fine Scotch malt* thing? It's a
>>bog standard Scotch single malt. It is an extremely well hyped
>>*commercial* malt.
>>
>>There are roughly 3,000 malt whiskies in Scotland. What's best is
>>a matter of individual taste.
>>
>>--
>>Bosslady
>>Nemo Me Impune Lacessit
>
>Sorry, I just copied and pasted right from the FAQ. I've never tried
>Glenmorangie, so I thought it'd be best just to put down what was written
>there. By all means, taste for a drink is quite an individualized
>thing...
Hmm so commercial that it's almost impossible to get ahold
of. I can go to most ABC stores in this area and they have
never heard of it. I guess that hype stuff you're talking about
musta been when they were on vacation. It may be a big
commercial brand in the UK but not here.
Tim
Karon Flage
Mac wrote:
> hi...@pharm.med.upenn.edu (John Hines) wrote:
> > In the first Highlander movie, after Connor goes back to the Garden
> > to retrieve his sword, he follows Brenda to a bar in the
> > neighborhood. She is sitting at the far end of the bar, and Connor
> > enters and orders something to drink...
> >John
> The drink he ordered was Glenmorangie (I hope I spelled this right).
> It is a pretty smooth and tasty scotch whisky. Pretty surprising,
> hunh? If you like scotch, you should give it a try.
> Mac
Actually, even if you are not all that fond of scotch it is quite good.
I am a bourbon gal myself but my roomie has a bottle of the 18 yr old
Glenmorangie that we save for celebrations or really bad days. I will
gladly join her in a scotch on those days. One of the watchers ordered
it in Joe's bar in the episode where the female watcher is helping the
young immortal win battles.
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Mac
rth...@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu (Rob Thornton) wrote:
>Good question. When I first saw this movie, a friend of mine was
>positive that he said "double Drambouie on ice". So we promptly went
>out and bought a ($25) bottle of this foul Scottish concoction just to
>show how proud we were of our Scottish descent.
Ah C'mon! I'ts not THAT bad.
> Anyhow, after years of rewatching the tape, I think he's saying
>"Glenn Maringee".
Much closer. The drink Connor ordered is Glenmorangie. Its a very nice
Scotch whiskey, worth worth trying, if you drink. If you've never tried
GOOD scotch before, you probably won't like it. It definately don't taste
like "Zima". It's kind of a developed taste. Sip, don't quaff, and give
it a chance to grow on you. At first it should take you weeks or longer
to drink a (750ml) bottle. Oh, one last thing, real Highlanders don't
drink anything "on ice".
>I'm not sure about the spelling, and I've been too cautious try to find >it- bad track record with Scottish foods. If you are brave=
enough, then >good luck and remember that Alka Seltzer now comes in caplets!
>
>Any other opinions on what he says?
>
> -Rob
>
You actually ate Haggis!?! Uh, why? The only reason the Scots ate it is
because the Landowners they worked for only gave the peasants the innards
of the animals to eat, and kept the meat for himself.
I think Ramirez summed it up best when he said, "REVOLTING!"
Mac
Noah Johnson
Corbie <cor...@radix.net> writes:
>Matthew Noel wrote:
>> Glenmorangie: a fine Scotch malt whiskey.
>Laphroag has more of a peaty taste and iodine bite... my fave!
>Corbie
Agreed. I just sipped it once, as I don't drink, and have made sure
to avoid it since because it's got such a lovely deep smoky flavor. I once
had a teacher in high school give me an A in exchange for a bottle of it.
He admitted later that I was earning the A, he just wanted a free bottle of
good scotch.
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Boss Lady
> rth...@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu (Rob Thornton) wrote:
>
>
> >Good question. When I first saw this movie, a friend of mine was
> >positive that he said "double Drambouie on ice". So we promptly went
> >out and bought a ($25) bottle of this foul Scottish concoction just to
> >show how proud we were of our Scottish descent.
>
> Ah C'mon! I'ts not THAT bad.
Drambuie is a little too sweet for most folks. Tradition claims
that Bonnie Prince Charlie gave the recipe for it to the family
who make (used to make) it.
>
>
> Much closer. The drink Connor ordered is Glenmorangie. Its a very nice
> Scotch whiskey, worth worth trying, if you drink. If you've never tried
> GOOD scotch before, you probably won't like it. It definately don't taste
> like "Zima". It's kind of a developed taste. Sip, don't quaff, and give
> it a chance to grow on you. At first it should take you weeks or longer
> to drink a (750ml) bottle. Oh, one last thing, real Highlanders don't
> drink anything "on ice".
No, never on ice - it's cold enough without ice over here!! :)
If you add ice to a proper malt whisky it will turn cloudy as
the essential oils are disturbed. Sorry, but Glenmorangie,
along with many others including Glenfiddoch etc, have been
filtered to prevent this and as a result lose their natural
colour. To re-introduce the proper colour, burnt sugar (caramel)
is added, which alters the taste just a tadd.
But you should have a glass of plain water with it. You can add
the water to the whisky (that's what most folks do). Not soda,
not Perrier or Evian. Plain, chilled water, preferably from the
same region as the whisky comes from. Actually a good malt is
*too strong* to taste properly and has to be diluted to develop
the flavour. All malt whisky is *sipping whisky*. A blend,
however (blended from grain whisky and several malts) can be
diluted with anything you want. Soda water, lemonade - even cola
(though that's considered a drink for women and wusses).
>
> >
>
> You actually ate Haggis!?! Uh, why? The only reason the Scots ate it is
> because the Landowners they worked for only gave the peasants the innards
> of the animals to eat, and kept the meat for himself.
> I think Ramirez summed it up best when he said, "REVOLTING!"
>
>
> Mac
There is absolutely nothing wrong with haggis, Mac. (how dare you
have a Scottish nickname and hate haggis ! <g>)
So it's made from offal meat. So are sausages. It includes oatmeal
and barley. Your doctor or dietician will tell you how good these
are for you. It is cheap and nutritious and filling. Peasant food
yes, but good peasant food. (bye the way, did you know salmon and
oysters were once considered peasant food? the apprentices of
London went on strike because their masters gave them oysters
every other day).
Rob Thornton
Boss Lady <boss...@menageri.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Drambuie is a little too sweet for most folks. Tradition claims
>that Bonnie Prince Charlie gave the recipe for it to the family
>who make (used to make) it.
>>
>No, never on ice - it's cold enough without ice over here!! :)
>If you add ice to a proper malt whisky it will turn cloudy as
>the essential oils are disturbed. Sorry, but Glenmorangie,
>along with many others including Glenfiddoch etc, have been
>filtered to prevent this and as a result lose their natural
>colour. To re-introduce the proper colour, burnt sugar (caramel)
>is added, which alters the taste just a tadd.
>But you should have a glass of plain water with it. You can add
>the water to the whisky (that's what most folks do). Not soda,
>not Perrier or Evian. Plain, chilled water, preferably from the
>same region as the whisky comes from. Actually a good malt is
>*too strong* to taste properly and has to be diluted to develop
>the flavour. All malt whisky is *sipping whisky*. A blend,
>however (blended from grain whisky and several malts) can be
>diluted with anything you want. Soda water, lemonade - even cola
>(though that's considered a drink for women and wusses).
>>
Thanks, I did not know this. Still, I cannot even imagine someone
being such a candyass that they would put coke or <shudder> LEMONADE
of all things into their scotch.
>>
>> You actually ate Haggis!?! Uh, why? The only reason the Scots ate it is
>> because the Landowners they worked for only gave the peasants the innards
>> of the animals to eat, and kept the meat for himself.
>> I think Ramirez summed it up best when he said, "REVOLTING!"
>>
>>
>> Mac
>There is absolutely nothing wrong with haggis, Mac. (how dare you
>have a Scottish nickname and hate haggis ! <g>)
>So it's made from offal meat. So are sausages. It includes oatmeal
>and barley. Your doctor or dietician will tell you how good these
>are for you. It is cheap and nutritious and filling. Peasant food
>yes, but good peasant food. (bye the way, did you know salmon and
>oysters were once considered peasant food? the apprentices of
>London went on strike because their masters gave them oysters
>every other day).
>>
>>
>>
OK, there's nothing wrong with haggis. Sure, some of the stuff in it
is good for you - there's even a great traditional history surrounding
haggis. But there is also a permeating stench surrounding haggis. It
stinks! It tastes bad! It's darn difficult to pick up chicks with
the line, "Hey baby, how 'bout we go out for some haggis later?" It
just doesn't happen. Yes, I'm proud that I've got Scottish ancestors.
But no matter how many highland games I go to, I just can't see myself
enjoying the stuff. Maybe I just need to spend some time starving in
the highlands. That would probably teach me to really like it =:)
>--
>Bosslady
>Nemo Me Impune Lacessit
Rob Thornton
Nemo what?!
Paul Bishop
:Oy! I take lemonade in my whisky (Famous Grouse, no ice, just a touch
:of lemonade please.) From what I can work out British lemonade is
:nothing like US lemonade. SevenUp is close but sweeter than ours.
You know, it says more about the clan loyalty of the Highlanders than
anything else if they're still drinking that evil malt stuff after so
many years to experience the joys of Kentucky sour mash. If you're ever
over here for the Derby or something, remember, only a Philistine would
ever add _anything_ to sour mash. (The sole exception is for mint
juleps, and then only in certain states at certain times of year.) ;)
PKB
"If alcohol is a crutch, Jack Daniels is a wheelchair."
--Robin Williams
Jette Goldie
rth...@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu (Rob Thornton) wrote:
>Boss Lady <boss...@menageri.demon.co.uk> wrote:
(snips from my original post)
>>But you should have a glass of plain water with it. You can add
>>the water to the whisky (that's what most folks do). Not soda,
>>not Perrier or Evian. Plain, chilled water, preferably from the
>>same region as the whisky comes from. Actually a good malt is
>>*too strong* to taste properly and has to be diluted to develop
>>the flavour. All malt whisky is *sipping whisky*. A blend,
>>however (blended from grain whisky and several malts) can be
>>diluted with anything you want. Soda water, lemonade - even cola
>>(though that's considered a drink for women and wusses).
>>>
> Thanks, I did not know this. Still, I cannot even imagine someone
>being such a candyass that they would put coke or <shudder> LEMONADE
>of all things into their scotch.
>>>
Oy! I take lemonade in my whisky (Famous Grouse, no ice, just a touch
of lemonade please.) From what I can work out British lemonade is
nothing like US lemonade. SevenUp is close but sweeter than ours.
(snippage re haggis)
>>>
>>>
>OK, there's nothing wrong with haggis. Sure, some of the stuff in it
>is good for you - there's even a great traditional history surrounding
>haggis. But there is also a permeating stench surrounding haggis. It
>stinks! It tastes bad! It's darn difficult to pick up chicks with
>the line, "Hey baby, how 'bout we go out for some haggis later?" It
>just doesn't happen. Yes, I'm proud that I've got Scottish ancestors.
>But no matter how many highland games I go to, I just can't see myself
>enjoying the stuff. Maybe I just need to spend some time starving in
>the highlands. That would probably teach me to really like it =:)
>>--
>>
>Rob Thornton
>Nemo what?!
A what about it? Permeating stench? A lovely mouthwatering aroma,
I'd say. Spicy and meaty. If you're getting a permeating stench,
it's not being cooked properly. Remember haggis is already cooked
when you buy it from the butchers. Steam it to warm it through fully
but don't overcook, or you will get a nasty smell (like boiled mince -
urgh!) London chefs serve it with a whisky and cream sauce. I like
it in the traditional manner with 'bashed neeps and champit tatties' -
mashed potatoes and swede.
Nemo Me Impune Lacessit
free translation - don't give me any lip or ye'll regret it.
bosslady
Nemo Me Impune Lacessit
(who is now posting from her own account.
new e-mail address - boss...@ednet.co.uk)
Rob Thornton
boss...@ednet.co.uk (Jette Goldie) wrote:
(snippage ref how to properly enjoy scotch)
>rth...@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu (Rob Thornton) wrote:
>> Thanks, I did not know this. Still, I cannot even imagine someone
>>being such a candyass that they would put coke or <shudder> LEMONADE
>>of all things into their scotch.
>>>>
>Oy! I take lemonade in my whisky (Famous Grouse, no ice, just a touch
>of lemonade please.) From what I can work out British lemonade is
>nothing like US lemonade. SevenUp is close but sweeter than ours.
Now this makes much more sense. I guess this is another one of those
items that gets completely muffed up in the trans-Atlantic
translation. Putting 7up or ginger ale in scotch is accepted practice
(for women) in the U.S. too. I just couldn't fathom how in the heck
you could have stomached lemonade (american-style) in your scotch of
all things. Thanks for clearing this up.
>>>> (snip ref the merits of haggis)
>>OK, there's nothing wrong with haggis. Sure, some of the stuff in it
>>is good for you - there's even a great traditional history surrounding
>>haggis. But there is also a permeating stench surrounding haggis. It
>>stinks! It tastes bad! It's darn difficult to pick up chicks with
>>the line, "Hey baby, how 'bout we go out for some haggis later?" It
>>just doesn't happen. Yes, I'm proud that I've got Scottish ancestors.
>>But no matter how many highland games I go to, I just can't see myself
>>enjoying the stuff. Maybe I just need to spend some time starving in
>>the highlands. That would probably teach me to really like it =:)
>>>--
>>>
>>Rob Thornton
>>Nemo what?!
>A what about it? Permeating stench? A lovely mouthwatering aroma,
>I'd say. Spicy and meaty. If you're getting a permeating stench,
>it's not being cooked properly. Remember haggis is already cooked
>when you buy it from the butchers. Steam it to warm it through fully
>but don't overcook, or you will get a nasty smell (like boiled mince -
>urgh!) London chefs serve it with a whisky and cream sauce. I like
>it in the traditional manner with 'bashed neeps and champit tatties' -
>mashed potatoes and swede.
>Nemo Me Impune Lacessit
>free translation - don't give me any lip or ye'll regret it.
You are a veritable cornucopia of information. Here I thought that I
had tried haggis. I guess I'll have to give it another shot. If
boiled mince smells anything like boiled mouse, then I guess the stuff
I had was just overcooked. There did seem to be a lot of spices, so
haggis made in the isles probably tastes much better than the same
cooked at a Ren Faire. Oh yea, thanks for the translation
>bosslady
>Nemo Me Impune Lacessit
>(who is now posting from her own account.
>new e-mail address - boss...@ednet.co.uk)
Rob Thornton
sig.less
Jette Goldie
Paul Bishop <uti...@mail.e-znet.com> wrote:
>
>You know, it says more about the clan loyalty of the Highlanders than
>anything else if they're still drinking that evil malt stuff after so
>many years to experience the joys of Kentucky sour mash. If you're ever
>over here for the Derby or something, remember, only a Philistine would
>ever add _anything_ to sour mash. (The sole exception is for mint
>juleps, and then only in certain states at certain times of year.) ;)
One, I'm not a Highlander - what do you think I am? Some kind of
teuchter? I was born and live in the Lowlands, so Mac might call me a
sassanach.
Two, I've tried bourbon, Kentucky sour mash and various other
*whiskeys* . Yuck! I love Irish malts though - Tullymore Dew is
actually my favourite drink and I don't take anything in that but more
Tully! Strangely enought (or not) my fav Scotch malt is Springbank -
which is not dissimilar to an Irish malt.
>"If alcohol is a crutch, Jack Daniels is a wheelchair."
> --Robin Williams
Bosslady
Kathy Meyer
Jette Goldie wrote:
>
> rth...@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu (Rob Thornton) wrote:
>
> >Boss Lady <boss...@menageri.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> (snips from my original post)
>
> >>But you should have a glass of plain water with it. You can add
> >>the water to the whisky (that's what most folks do). Not soda,
> >>not Perrier or Evian. Plain, chilled water, preferably from the
> >>same region as the whisky comes from. Actually a good malt is
> >>*too strong* to taste properly and has to be diluted to develop
> >>the flavour. All malt whisky is *sipping whisky*. A blend,
> >>however (blended from grain whisky and several malts) can be
> >>diluted with anything you want. Soda water, lemonade - even cola
> >>(though that's considered a drink for women and wusses).
> >>>
>
> >being such a candyass that they would put coke or <shudder> LEMONADE
> >of all things into their scotch.
> >>>
>
> Oy! I take lemonade in my whisky (Famous Grouse, no ice, just a touch
> of lemonade please.) From what I can work out British lemonade is
> nothing like US lemonade. SevenUp is close but sweeter than ours.
> >>>I spent the Summer of '94 camping all around UK (including the
Highlands) and got to know British lemonade, beer, and some whiskey
from hanging out in pubs (to escape the weather and meet people).
You're right, UK lemonade is quite a bit different than US. UK lemonade
is a lot like Sprite, but less sweet, but never served with enough ice
(nothing was served with enough ice for this Californian). I thought it
would taste good with tequila. The best whiskey I had was straight out
of the bottle, sitting in my tent on the west coast of Scotland, rain
pouring down so hard I couldn't see the ocean 15 feet away, and
shivering with cold. The whiskey was Oban, named after the town of Oban
where we purchased it -- do you think it was the circumstances that made
it taste so good?
Never did try haggis. Maybe next time.
Kathy