Adrian Paul's Marital Status
Paige Foster
Okay, I know I'll get flamed for posting this because I remember the last
time someone started a thread about AP's personal life. So let me just
say this: if you don't believe it's any of your business, don't read
this. I'll even put in spoiler space for you.
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Okay that's enough. I just saw my friend this weekend, the one who works
as a foley artist for Highlander. He told me that AP is definitely
divorced now and currently not attached to anyone else either. Just
thought I'd pass on the info to inquiring minds <g>
Paige
"Lord, what fools these mortals be!" - Puck, A Midsummer Night's Dream
Sally Neiser
thanks for the info; it will be interesting to see who the next
lady in his life turns out to be. Hope they can spend more time
together than Meilani and Adrian seemed to. Wonder who got the dogs?
Ike
Paige Foster <morr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
For inquiring minds...Adrian is not the only one on the outs with his
better half. I heard from a very reliable source that Peter Wingfield
is seperated from his wife as well. Peter has taken up a relationship
with the show's make up artist and according to eyewitnesses "they are
in love"
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Paige Foster
falk...@aol.com wrote:
>
> In article <32e70bea....@snews2.zippo.com>, tl...@front.net (Ike)
> writes:
>
> >For inquiring minds...Adrian is not the only one on the outs with his
> >better half. I heard from a very reliable source that Peter Wingfield
> >is seperated from his wife as well. Peter has taken up a relationship
> >with the show's make up artist and according to eyewitnesses "they are
> >in love"
>
> AP's and other actors' personal lives on the newsgroup, and it's a shame
> that that has changed now. I'm sure they could use a little privacy once
> in a while. Try wearing their shoes sometime.
>
> Now, I realize I'm being a spoilsport here, and I understand that you guys
> are just having a little fun, but keep in mind there there IS a fine line
> here between having fun, and rudely invading someone's privacy.
>
> So, if you insist, have your fun, but keep in mind that there WAS a
> standard here on ATH, and it seems to have simply disappeared.
>
> No hard feelings or offense intended, just an annoyed little rant.
>
> -Nate
Ahhh, and so the flames begin.
Divorce is a matter of PUBLIC record. It is not private. Do not
belittle me for being interested in an attractive man's marital status.
You can say that you do not intend any hard feelings but that does not
alter your condescending holier-than-thou tone. Especially since you
obviously read all the way down through the message in spite of the fact
that I put in enough spoilers to choke a horse.
Sorry, feeling a bit peeved right now.
falk...@aol.com
Robert Schechter
Paige Foster wrote:
>
> Ahh, and so the flames begin.
>
> Divorce is a matter of PUBLIC record. It is not private. Do not
> belittle me for being interested in an attractive man's marital status.
> You can say that you do not intend any hard feelings but that does not
> alter your condescending holier-than-thou tone. Especially since you
> obviously read all the way down through the message in spite of the fact
> that I put in enough spoilers to choke a horse.
>
> Sorry, feeling a bit peeved right now.
1. You are quite correct; divorce is a matter of public record, and a
simple statement that so-and-so is/is not divorced does not seem out of
line. What I object to really are the rather predatory-sounding
what-is-his-real-name and has-he-had-an-affair and who-did-what-to-whom
type of posts that show up once in a while.
2. That was not a flame. That was a very mild-mannered expression of a
difference of opinion. You want to see a _real_ flame, go look at
alt.atheism or talk.atheism or alt.origins. I don't count the stuff on
alt.flame, because it's show-off writing, without the true passion of
belief behind it.
3. I've never seen a real heavy-duty flame on this NG; it's a
wonderfully civilized place.
Bob
Paige Foster
Robert Schechter wrote:
> 1. You are quite correct; divorce is a matter of public record, and a
> simple statement that so-and-so is/is not divorced does not seem out of
> line. What I object to really are the rather predatory-sounding
> what-is-his-real-name and has-he-had-an-affair and who-did-what-to-whom
> type of posts that show up once in a while.
I see. So it's okay to share the information, just not okay to act like we
want to know? Help me out here. And as for being predatory, you are making
a judgement based on very little knowledge. It makes me wonder whether you
aren't projecting a bit.
> 2. That was not a flame. That was a very mild-mannered expression of a
> difference of opinion. You want to see a _real_ flame, go look at
> alt.atheism or talk.atheism or alt.origins. I don't count the stuff on
> alt.flame, because it's show-off writing, without the true passion of
> belief behind it.
No, I don't want to see a real flame. I didn't want to see your
pseudo-flame. If you simply wanted to express a difference of opinion you
could have just said that you disagreed. You didn't have to imply that
people who disagree with you are a bunch of low-lifes lowering the
"standards" of the NG. Your tone was offensive. It still is. I've heard
enough moral superiority to last me a few life-times, so I do not respond
well to it here.
> 3. I've never seen a real heavy-duty flame on this NG; it's a
> wonderfully civilized place.
>
> Bob
Yes, it is. I am hoping that it will stay that way. Judging other people
for being interested in things that you do not approve of is not something I
consider civilized.
Robert Schechter
Good grief, Paige, calm down! No one here has said one single rude word
to you. Each of us has expressed an _opinion_ only. Politely. I am not
the one who originally answered your post, and I _agreed_ with you. Are
you saying that we are not allowed to differ from your views? You may
disagree with mine--go for it. It's why we're here--to exchange
opinions. Nobody is denigrating your views; at least, I haven't heard
such; all I've seen was 1 letter of mild disagreement and my letter
saying I agreed with you but I've seen it go a bit tabloid in the past
from _other people_.
If you're all insulted, I apologize for whatever I said that you think
was insulting. I didn't mean it that way. OK?
Bob
Barbara Lee
Okay, I'm going to butt my nose'n'toes into this one
because we've got two of our coolest newsgroup denizens
feeling mighty unhappy and this isn't good....
IMNSHO, both of you are correct, which makes this an
unresolvable issue.
(Warning: 'tis Friday afternoon and Barb's going to go
on a philosophical rant now [I'd add spoiler spaces but
this is already too long as 'tis]. ;-)
This is a tough one: Do you define morality (and specifically,
this particular aspect of morality) as a social value or
a personal decision? The fact is that civilization isn't,
as Paige defines it, about "not judging other people"; au
contraire, judging is, to a great extent, exactly what
civilization is about. Civilization is about telling folks
that it's not okay to walk buck-nekkid down Main Street at
high noon singing "Princes of the Universe" at the top of
your lungs because you'll cause a traffic jam and make people
late to their luncheon dates and afternoon hacky-sack games
(hacky-sack? what can I say? I'm in Santa Cruz <g>); and
it's not okay to post binaries to a non-binary group, because
you make all the AOLers' phone lines clog up while they spend
45 minues downloading alt.tv.highlander; and it's not okay to
wear purple lame speedos to the office, except on dress-down
Fridays, because your attire will make the clients gag. A
lot of time is spent training a child to *not* act on his/her
every thought, and to *not* say everything on his/her mind,
because often our basest thoughts can cause harm to others if
we express them ("Mommy, that lady's so FAT!" "Do you think
so-and-so has an illegitimate child?"). However,
contradictorily, civilization (as we define it in our
Good-Ole-U-S-of-A-Land-Of-The-Free-And-Home-Of-The-Superbowl)
is *also* about giving folks the freedom to do all of the
above in the privacy of their living rooms, as long as they
don't inflict it upon anybody else. The conflict really
becomes obvious on usenet, which is a forum both public *and*
personal, where we try to use our First Amendment freedom
of speech as a tool to create cozy little virtual living rooms
where we can hang out and get to know each other over mugs o'
hot cocoa (it's chilly here today in the redwoods, and I've
got a cold). We want to be kind and civil, but this living
room doesn't belong to any one of us, and rules of behavior can
only be arrived at by consensus. But here we have no consensus.
Yet the answer's really not as simple as saying "harm ye none,
do what thou wilt," as pretty as that sounds, because the line
between freedom and incivility is a remarkably fine one. The
very concept of true civility (not a Martha Stewartish
building-a-house-out-of-lace-doilies kind of snootiness, but
civility as a basic moral compass that guides one's behavior)
is that some things are not appropriate to say or do, whether
or not they're legal or allowed--*and* that speaking up for
what one believes to be moral is part of being civil.
Civilization is about discouraging, mostly through deadly
frowns of disapproval, all those behaviors that make the world
a ruder, cruder, and more unpleasant place to live in. And
so, after this whole l-o-n-g paragraph we're exactly where
we started: some folks think discussion of actors' personal
lives on the newsgroup falls into the uncivil, unkind category
(this happens to be my POV), while others feel it's harmless
and something people want to know about, so why don't the
fuddy-duddys chill out already?
Okay. Because this is a disagreement that stems from basic
philosophical differences, this fuddy-duddy thinks it needs
to be handled as other such differences are--by agreeing to
disagree. Paige's solution of providing spoiler spaces and
warnings before discussing the actors' personal lives seems
a very fair compromise--it's an acknowledgement that not
everyone thinks this is a kosher topic and admits that there
are some of us who Don't Want To Go There, but it still allows
those who want to discuss such subjects the freedom to do so.
And ya know what? This whole topic is a major theme on
Highlander, so ain't we all clever to be struggling with it
in real/virtual/a.t.h life? How does one define morality--as
a personal, malleable thing, or as an absolute set of rules?
And if one disagrees with another's moral choices? Is it
"Live And Let Live" or "Off With 'is Head"? What would Mac
say about our disagreement? What would Methos say? Would
Joe sit on the sidelines and write a blues song about it,
or would he butt right in the middle and get himself in
trouble again? Would Richie agree or disagree, depending
on which opinion was supported by the most femme fatales?
Tune in next week, same time, same station, for another
thrilling adventure in "Philosophy 101"^H^H^H um, I mean,
"Highlander: The Series."
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catcon
banz...@aol.com wrote:
>
> In article <32E7F9...@earthlink.net>, Paige Foster> Yes and no. It is a matter of public record because of all the legal
> aspects, but it is still (at least to some) an intensely private
> thing and doesn't need to be bandied about by some third party
> on the 'net for the world to see.
> If AP or PW or anyone else decided that the world needed to
> know if they were married, divorced, gay, cat-lovers, line dancers,
> smokers, bald, etc...they have plenty of ways to get that info out.
> If they don't announce it, maybe it's because they feel it's
> none of our business.
>
> Chris
> (tho' if I do hear they like line-dancing, I may have to quit watching the
> show. Ugh!)
ME TOO!!
Connie :D
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Nip it! Nip it in the bud!
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Matt Goode
On 24 Jan 1997 falk...@aol.com wrote:
> In article <32e70bea....@snews2.zippo.com>, tl...@front.net (Ike)
> writes:
>
>
>> SNIPPED for your protection
>
> Does it matter? I was proud of the fact that people refused to discuss
> AP's and other actors' personal lives on the newsgroup, and it's a shame
> that that has changed now. I'm sure they could use a little privacy once
> in a while. Try wearing their shoes sometime.
>
> Now, I realize I'm being a spoilsport here, and I understand that you guys
> are just having a little fun, but keep in mind there there IS a fine line
> here between having fun, and rudely invading someone's privacy.
>
> So, if you insist, have your fun, but keep in mind that there WAS a
> standard here on ATH, and it seems to have simply disappeared.
>
> No hard feelings or offense intended, just an annoyed little rant.
>
> -Nate
>
The Original author DID use a spoiler space, to protect people such as
your self. You did not use a spoiler space and have therefore possibly
forced an unwilling person to stumble upon this information accidentally,
thereby damning them to realize that despite their delusions, Highlander
is not real, and all the people in the show are actors with real lives.
Goode
"The unexamined life is not worth living." ---Socrates
banz...@aol.com
Bobby Greer
Hi Paige!
At the risk of starting an uncontrollable fire storm, I had to come
out of the bushes and say "Way to go, Paige!" Back in Oct. when I
first asked this question, I was flamed (booed, hissed, yelled at)
and pretty much told to mind my own business--not his. Having heard
it from a stranger, I didn't feel that his divorce was such a big
deal. Some of you had other opinions. Great! It takes all kinds
to make the world go 'round. I'm one of those people who wants to
know all kinds of things about the actors I like. Yeah, I'd even want
to know if he preferred showers or baths. So sue me. Paige put the
subject matter in the header and left spoiler space. What more do you
want? For those of you politically and morally correct folks, stop
reading the post if you find something you feel is unacceptable to
your sensibilities, and let us poor,curious and occasionally demented
folks to our own peculiar past times.
Sorry about the rant, but this has been bothering me for months. I'll
just find that little bottle of prozac and go back to my nice comfy
bush.
If reality wants to get in touch with me, it knows where I am...
Strax
On Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:35:50 -0600, catcon <cat...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>ME TOO!!
>Connie :D
>--
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>Nip it! Nip it in the bud!
>--Deputy Barney Fife
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Hey Connie...welcome back to the Land of the Lost:)!!
I third that notion...and have this very funny image in my mind of Methos
singing and then line dancing the Achy Breaky Heart...I've been laughing
out loud for about an hour on that picture.....
Strax
roseb...@aol.com
In article <32EBB7...@qnet.com>, Queenie <lrobi...@qnet.com> writes:
>What? Higlander isn't real? I haven't been watching
>a fascinating documentary? There is no Duncan MacLeod
>of the Clan MacLeod? No Richie? No Amanda? No ROG?
>
>Boo-hoo! I am so depressed!
>
>Next you're going to tell me that there's no Pyro or
>Vicki or BJ or Eric or Wah or Tim or Maria or Jill
>and Mittsy.....
>
>I can't stand it.
>
>Queenie
>who may not be the Queen of the whole world, after all
>
Don't say that Queenie...I thought it was real too. Oh no...
what's going to happen. How am I going to survive? And if
they aren't real, who was the guy sitting on my bed with
the nose and the toes?
Maria--
Roseb...@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/RosebudSal/index.html
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nonsense of those who think they talk sense. "
--- Robert Frost
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pla...@liberty.com
In article <19970124055...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
falk...@aol.com wrote:
>
> In article <32e70bea....@snews2.zippo.com>, tl...@front.net (Ike)
> writes:
>
> >better half. I heard from a very reliable source that Peter Wingfield
> >is seperated from his wife as well. Peter has taken up a relationship
> >with the show's make up artist and according to eyewitnesses "they are
> >in love"
>
> AP's and other actors' personal lives on the newsgroup, and it's a shame
> that that has changed now. I'm sure they could use a little privacy once
> in a while. Try wearing their shoes sometime.
thread be moved to alt.showbiz.gossip. The actors love lives don't have
anything to do with Highlander. If you want to discuss their PRIVATE lives why
not take it to the appropiate newsgroup -- alt.showbiz.gossip?
busybody - noun, A person who meddles or pries in to the affairs of others.
gossip - noun, Trifling, often groundless rumor, usually of a personal,
sensational, or intimate nature
The America Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
Pat Lawson - pla...@liberty.com
member PEACE/APFC, PWFC
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lysa...@wco.com
Barb, my hat off to you for delivering such a speech on a Friday
afternoon and while having a cold! I was planing to keep my tows out of
it as well, but it looks like they have a mind of their own, and are
merrily following in your footsteps.
My personal opinion is that a question 'Is AP divorced'? is as
appropriate as were the questions on whether he was married and what
was Melanie Paul ethnic origin. Both have been answered on this our NG
about 700 times without public outcry. MP is a part of the show, she
attended Conventions and even changed clothes in some of our NG member's
room :). My feeling is that a moderate level of interest to her and AP
status is not out of line, and those who are interested should not be
made to feel as if they are indulging in some secret vice.
However, if someone starts to post reports about why and how AP is
getting divorced, and who said what to whom, and who was caught doing
what with whom how many times while PW was ...., this is where I
personally will start to yell bloody murder and waive a flag and demand
some higher standard to be considered for our NG here.
Why? Because unless you are psychic, and what you are 'sharing' ( Boy, I
hate that word!!!!!) are your "visions", your information had to have
come from somewhere. From AP/MP friend betraying their confidence? a
snoop? a colleague who is making public their private lives just because
she/he can? a source who got it by means so unsavory (and yes
predatory), that the only thing I can compare it to is stealing? I
would not buy a stolen car, no matter how much I loved it, I would not
listen to stolen information, even if I am dying of curiosity. This is
where I *personally* draw the line between This Is A Free Country and
This Behavior Is Inappropriate, (even if it is legal). The only way it
would work for me if AP/MP themselfs gave the permission to tell the
world.
And one more thing, I pass absolutely no judgment on anyone's interest,
but I reserve the right to judge expressed opinions and actions,
specially when they take place in front of my very nose (not to be
confused with the NOSE himself, who's opinion is not represented in this
post:)) So to conclude, imo there is no shame in being curious about
whether AP prefers bath or shower, but it is an entirely different
matter to hang outside his bathroom window with a camera, because the
Inquiring minds want to know. I see no difference between hanging
outside his window by my own tows, or supporting those who do. Sometimes
the answere to my burning question is "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS."
Just MO.
--
Alexandra
lysa...@wco.com
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'Na kazhdogo mudretsa dovolno prostoti.'
(Folly finds even the wise man )
Old Russian proverb
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ROG=Really Old Guy=Methos
Queenie
roseb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> In article <32EBB7...@qnet.com>, Queenie <lrobi...@qnet.com> writes:
>
> >
> >Matt Goode wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > In article <32e70bea....@snews2.zippo.com>, tl...@front.net
> (Ike)
> >> > writes:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Does it matter? I was proud of the fact that people refused to
> discuss
> >> > AP's and other actors' personal lives on the newsgroup, and it's a
> shame
> >> > that that has changed now. I'm sure they could use a little privacy
> once
> >> > in a while. Try wearing their shoes sometime.
> >> >
If there is no ROG, you'd better call 911!
Queenie
Queenie
catcon
monky...@aol.com wrote:
Great big snip for length
> Stalking them, breaking into their house to rummage thru their underwear
> drawer, and peeking thru their window is invasion of privacy.
>
> Tim
But Tim,
You say that like it's a bad thing! ;)
Connie
catcon
Queenie wrote:
>
Great big snip for length
>
> a fascinating documentary? There is no Duncan MacLeod
> of the Clan MacLeod? No Richie? No Amanda? No ROG?
>
> Boo-hoo! I am so depressed!
>
> Next you're going to tell me that there's no Pyro or
> Vicki or BJ or Eric or Wah or Tim or Maria or Jill
> and Mittsy.....
>
> I can't stand it.
>
> Queenie
> who may not be the Queen of the whole world, after all
Your Most Royal Highness!
Please don't listen to these foul people. They mean to cast you from
your throne and replace you with someone evil.
You alone, indeed, are the only Queen of the whole world. Duncan
MacLeod is real, Vicki, BJ, Eric, Wah, Tim, Maria, Jill & Mitsy are your
subjects! And I am your most humble and loyal cleric.
Long Live The Queen!!!
Connie, Queenie's Cleric
Sharon A. Borracci
monky...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hate to tell you this but this NG is devoted to any and everything
> to do with HL and that includes personal tidbits on the actors.
> It's always been that way, it hasn't changed. Besides knowing
> that someone is divorced in no way invades their privacy. Stalking
> them, breaking into their house to rummage thru their underwear
> drawer, and peeking thru their window is invasion of privacy.
>
> Tim
Agreed. Knowing someone's (not just a celebrity's) marital status is not
an invasion of privacy. Abusing that knowledge and not treating the
person with respect and courtesy do create an invasion of privacy.
Sharon
monky...@aol.com
In article <32e98f39...@news.iamerica.net>, st...@iamerica.net
(Strax) writes:
>
>On Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:35:50 -0600, catcon <cat...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>banz...@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> In article <32E7F9...@earthlink.net>, Paige Foster
>>> <morr...@earthlink.net> writes:
>>>
>>> >Divorce is a matter of PUBLIC record. It is not private.
>>>
>>> Yes and no. It is a matter of public record because of all the legal
>>> aspects, but it is still (at least to some) an intensely private
>>> thing and doesn't need to be bandied about by some third party
>>> on the 'net for the world to see.
>>> If AP or PW or anyone else decided that the world needed to
>>> know if they were married, divorced, gay, cat-lovers, line dancers,
>>> smokers, bald, etc...they have plenty of ways to get that info out.
>>> If they don't announce it, maybe it's because they feel it's
>>> none of our business.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> (tho' if I do hear they like line-dancing, I may have to quit watching
the
>>> show. Ugh!)
>>
>>ME TOO!!
>>Connie :D
>>--
>
>>************************************************************************
*****
>>Nip it! Nip it in the bud!
>>--Deputy Barney Fife
>
>>************************************************************************
*****
>
>
>Hey Connie...welcome back to the Land of the Lost:)!!
>
>I third that notion...and have this very funny image in my mind of Methos
>singing and then line dancing the Achy Breaky Heart...I've been laughing
>out loud for about an hour on that picture.....
UH OH! Guess I better keep that inside info to myself then!
Tim
monky...@aol.com
>
>For inquiring minds...Adrian is not the only one on the outs with his
>better half. I heard from a very reliable source that Peter Wingfield
>is seperated from his wife as well. Peter has taken up a relationship
>with the show's make up artist and according to eyewitnesses "they are
>in love"
And here everyone didn't believe me when I told them AP was
divorced several months ago.
Tim
monky...@aol.com
In article <19970124055...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
falk...@aol.com writes:
>
>In article <32e70bea....@snews2.zippo.com>, tl...@front.net (Ike)
>writes:
>
>>For inquiring minds...Adrian is not the only one on the outs with his
>>better half. I heard from a very reliable source that Peter Wingfield
>>is seperated from his wife as well. Peter has taken up a relationship
>>with the show's make up artist and according to eyewitnesses "they are
>>in love"
>
>Does it matter? I was proud of the fact that people refused to discuss
>AP's and other actors' personal lives on the newsgroup, and it's a shame
>that that has changed now. I'm sure they could use a little privacy once
>in a while. Try wearing their shoes sometime.
>
>Now, I realize I'm being a spoilsport here, and I understand that you
guys
>are just having a little fun, but keep in mind there there IS a fine line
>here between having fun, and rudely invading someone's privacy.
>
>So, if you insist, have your fun, but keep in mind that there WAS a
>standard here on ATH, and it seems to have simply disappeared.
>
>No hard feelings or offense intended, just an annoyed little rant.
Hate to tell you this but this NG is devoted to any and everything
lysa...@wco.com
lysa...@wco.com wrote:
So to conclude, imo there is no shame in being curious about
> whether AP prefers bath or shower, but it is an entirely different
> matter to hang outside his bathroom window with a camera, because the
> Inquiring minds want to know. I see no difference between hanging
> outside his window by my own tows, or supporting those who do. Sometimes
> the answere to my burning question is "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS."
>
> Just MO.
I promise, one of these days I will learn how to spell TOES! (I don't
know about other words, but toes....)
Alexandra, hiding under the table from embarrassment
lysandra@wco,com
Kathleen Kelley
[snipped Barb's stuff]
I think you've really summed up why I find this topic
a little inappropriate. AP has revealed alot about
his private life (wife, dogs, racing, etc) in interviews.
I don't have any problem discussing the things he has
publically released. The divorce has not been announced
in any forum. AP has not mentioned it. PEACE has not
mentioned it. To me, that makes all discussion hearsay.
To that end, I think the newsgroup is too public a place
for this discussion (I do realise that I'm contributing
to exactly what I'm disagreeing with here).
Anyway, MHO is this is a discussion for private email. :)
--
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spoiler
space
while
we
discuss
the
philosophical
and
moral
implications
of
discussing
people's
private
lives.
>>
>>SNIPPed Barb's most excellent Friday afternoon rant
>>
>
In article <32EC04...@wco.com>, lysa...@wco.com writes:
>
>My personal opinion is that a question 'Is AP divorced'? is as
>appropriate as were the questions on whether he was married and what
>was Melanie Paul ethnic origin. Both have been answered on this our NG
Uh oh....I've been feeling superior about my lack of interest in the
actor's private lives, until I realized that Alexandra is right. I didn't
find it inappropriate to read a discussion that said AP was married,
but I was offended at the "he's divorced" thread. Aaaauuuggghhh!! A
double standard right in my own little brain!!
>
>However, if someone starts to post reports about why and how AP is
>getting divorced, and who said what to whom, and who was caught doing
>what with whom how many times while PW was ...., this is where I
No, no, have to disagree here. If personal life discussions are
acceptable, then it's not for *us* to decide how far the posts
can go. "The line" is purely subjective, what one of us finds
offensive, others may not see anything to object to in at all. I
would certainly hope that *all* personal discussions are clearly
labelled in the subject lines since I no longer intend to read
*any* of them. I'm sticking to the RL that is HL in the future.
>
>Why? Because unless you are psychic, and what you are 'sharing' ( Boy, I
>hate that word!!!!!) are your "visions", your information had to have
>come from somewhere. From AP/MP friend betraying their confidence? a
>snoop? a colleague who is making public their private lives just because
>she/he can? a source who got it by means so unsavory (and yes
>
Well, an amazing amount of personal stuff is frequently revealed by the
Actors themselves in interviews these days. And, how can you judge
what is an unsavory source? Do you *know* where People or ET get
their info? Where do you draw the line? Nat'l Enq**r*r? St*r? Your
daily newspaper? Posts in other places on the 'net?
>
>So to conclude, imo there is no shame in being curious about
>whether AP prefers bath or shower, but it is an entirely different
>matter to hang outside his bathroom window with a camera, because the
>Inquiring minds want to know. I see no difference between hanging
>outside his window by my own tows, or supporting those who do. Sometimes
>the answere to my burning question is "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS."
>--
>
So, you're saying it's OK for us to speculate privately about whether
AP prefers baths or showers? Or, whether PW sleeps in his birthday
suit? (sorry <eg> ) As long as we don't involve the Real People in our
discussions? I'm with you just about 1000% here! As long as we
remember the difference between the Actor and the Character, it's OK
by me. I'd rather not participate in discussions of people's private
lives but, as I said above, I can just choose not to read those threads.
Anne
--->I wasn't thinking, I was improvising
--->Soon I'll be improvising a new sig line....my life is
always under construction, please stand by.
ann...@aol.com
In article <32EC45...@wco.com>, lysa...@wco.com writes:
>
>lysa...@wco.com wrote:
>> outside his window by my own tows, or supporting those who do.
Sometimes
>> the answere to my burning question is "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS."
>>
>
>I promise, one of these days I will learn how to spell TOES! (I don't
>know about other words, but toes....)
>
>Alexandra, hiding under the table from embarrassment
>
>lysandra@wco,com
>
>
LOL!!! I thought you had some kind of personal thing about not
mentioning actual body parts on the 'ng.....I didn't say anything
though, in the spirit of my new "live and let live" policy...
Claire Maier
co.com>:
Organization: Emory University
Distribution:
lysa...@wco.com wrote:
: My personal opinion is that a question 'Is AP divorced'? is as
: appropriate as were the questions on whether he was married and what
: was Melanie Paul ethnic origin. Both have been answered on this our NG
: about 700 times without public outcry. MP is a part of the show, she
: attended Conventions and even changed clothes in some of our NG member's
: room :). My feeling is that a moderate level of interest to her and AP
: status is not out of line, and those who are interested should not be
: made to feel as if they are indulging in some secret vice.
The big difference here is what has been made public by AP's choice. The
information about Meilani's ethnic orgin was originally in a French
interview with AP which was translated and posted to HIGHLA-L a couple of
years ago. Ditto the other things which have been posted without public
outcry. They are all things that Adrian has *chosen* to make public.
: However, if someone starts to post reports about why and how AP is
: getting divorced, and who said what to whom, and who was caught doing
: what with whom how many times while PW was ...., this is where I
: personally will start to yell bloody murder and waive a flag and demand
: some higher standard to be considered for our NG here.
I think *any* of the assertions about divorces at all fall into this
category. AP has not made any such thing public. His fan club Web page
currently says that he is married. And as far as I am concerned, to quote
Ian MacLeod, "And that's an end of it."
: Why? Because unless you are psychic, and what you are 'sharing' ( Boy, I
: hate that word!!!!!) are your "visions", your information had to have
: come from somewhere. From AP/MP friend betraying their confidence? a
: snoop? a colleague who is making public their private lives just because
: she/he can? a source who got it by means so unsavory (and yes
: predatory), that the only thing I can compare it to is stealing? I
: would not buy a stolen car, no matter how much I loved it, I would not
: listen to stolen information, even if I am dying of curiosity. This is
: where I *personally* draw the line between This Is A Free Country and
: This Behavior Is Inappropriate, (even if it is legal). The only way it
: would work for me if AP/MP themselfs gave the permission to tell the
: world.
I agree here. I have no respect for the people who know AP professionally
who would casually discuss his private life with fans. And I have even
less respect for the fans who would repeat such information on the
Internet. (This goes for the other actors, as well.)
: post:)) So to conclude, imo there is no shame in being curious about
: whether AP prefers bath or shower, but it is an entirely different
: matter to hang outside his bathroom window with a camera, because the
: Inquiring minds want to know. I see no difference between hanging
: outside his window by my own tows, or supporting those who do. Sometimes
: the answere to my burning question is "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS."
Absolutely.
Dayspring
catcon <cat...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> drawer, and peeking thru their window is invasion of privacy.
>>
>> Tim
>
>You say that like it's a bad thing! ;)
>Connie
Geez, only freaks would do things like that...
By the way Tim, that shirt you were wearing the other day is just not
you...
;)
Matt, I promise... I'm just kidding... I'm a freak, but not that much of
a freak... :)
--
Dayspring |_______________________________
@XXXXXXXXXX||____________________________//
| mmn...@vms.cis.pitt.edu
They fought like warrior-poets... they
fought like Scotsmen... and won their
freedom...
caid...@aol.com
In article <19970126223...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
roseb...@aol.com writes:
>
>Don't say that Queenie...I thought it was real too. Oh no...
>what's going to happen. How am I going to survive? And if
>they aren't real, who was the guy sitting on my bed with
>the nose and the toes?
>
>
Tim with a fake nose and getting ready to lead a line dance??!! Toooo
funny! Sorry, Tim, just couldn't resist.... ;-0
jaci
monky...@aol.com
In article <32EC34...@ix.netcom.com>, catcon <cat...@ix.netcom.com>
writes:
>
>monky...@aol.com wrote:
>
>Great big snip for length
>
>> Stalking them, breaking into their house to rummage thru their
underwear
>> drawer, and peeking thru their window is invasion of privacy.
>>
>> Tim
>
>But Tim,
>You say that like it's a bad thing! ;)
Hey I think it's great fun but some people don't like it...go figure!!
Tim
monky...@aol.com
>
>In article <19970124055...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> falk...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> In article <32e70bea....@snews2.zippo.com>, tl...@front.net (Ike)
>> writes:
>>
>> >For inquiring minds...Adrian is not the only one on the outs with his
>> >better half. I heard from a very reliable source that Peter Wingfield
>> >is seperated from his wife as well. Peter has taken up a relationship
>> >with the show's make up artist and according to eyewitnesses "they are
>> >in love"
>>
>> Does it matter? I was proud of the fact that people refused to discuss
>> AP's and other actors' personal lives on the newsgroup, and it's a
shame
>> that that has changed now. I'm sure they could use a little privacy
once
>> in a while. Try wearing their shoes sometime.
>
>Rather than debating the morality of this discussion, I'd like to suggest
>this
>thread be moved to alt.showbiz.gossip. The actors love lives don't have
>anything to do with Highlander. If you want to discuss their PRIVATE
lives
>why
>not take it to the appropiate newsgroup -- alt.showbiz.gossip?
Ummm this NG is for anything related to HL including the
stars Private lives. I personally don't give a squat about their
private lives but others do so it's relevant. Besides it's not
gossip. Just because AP didn't tell it to us personally doesn't
make it any less true.
Tim
Regina Michelle Wilhelm
On Sun, 26 Jan 1997 lysa...@wco.com wrote:
> lysa...@wco.com wrote:
>
> So to conclude, imo there is no shame in being curious about
> > whether AP prefers bath or shower, but it is an entirely different
> > matter to hang outside his bathroom window with a camera, because the
> > Inquiring minds want to know. I see no difference between hanging
> > outside his window by my own tows, or supporting those who do. Sometimes
> > the answere to my burning question is "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS."
> >
> > Just MO.
>
>
> I promise, one of these days I will learn how to spell TOES! (I don't
> know about other words, but toes....)
>
>
> Alexandra, hiding under the table from embarrassment
>
> lysandra@wco,com
It's okay, we love you anyhow! :)
Is it okay for me to hang out IN the shower to find out? >:)
Reggie :)
Picc Chick
Tuba Chick (Tuba Wooba) (Tuba Diva) (Tuba Shiva)
Oregon Marching Band
Oregon Basketball Band
Oregon Wind Ensemble
EX-Uniform Manager, 1995-96 "No Raccoons"
"You know, Gina, whenver I read your mail, I get .sig envy"
"Do you think this is just a trumpet?"
"No, It's a bong!"
-"Mr. B Natural," MST3K
"Shut up, kid." -Guinan, to Wesley Crusher, Star Trek
"Richie, shut up." -Duncan MacLeod, Highlander
"No, Mom, I wasn't playing with myself in the bathtub. I was
just cleaning it, and it went off."
Harry Solomon, on working in college football stadiums:
"No, I didn't have enough experience to sell hot dogs...so they
hired me as a security guard."
Jill and Mittsy
It finally happened! On Sun, 26 Jan 1997 23:02:33 -0600,
catcon <cat...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Queenie wrote:
>>
>Great big snip for length
>>
>> What? Higlander isn't real? I haven't been watching
>> a fascinating documentary? There is no Duncan MacLeod
>> of the Clan MacLeod? No Richie? No Amanda? No ROG?
>>
>> Boo-hoo! I am so depressed!
>>
>> Next you're going to tell me that there's no Pyro or
>> Vicki or BJ or Eric or Wah or Tim or Maria or Jill
>> and Mittsy.....
>>
>> I can't stand it.
>>
>> Queenie
>> who may not be the Queen of the whole world, after all
>
>Your Most Royal Highness!
>Please don't listen to these foul people. They mean to cast you from
>your throne and replace you with someone evil.
>
>You alone, indeed, are the only Queen of the whole world. Duncan
>MacLeod is real, Vicki, BJ, Eric, Wah, Tim, Maria, Jill & Mitsy are your
>subjects! And I am your most humble and loyal cleric.
>
>Long Live The Queen!!!
>Connie, Queenie's Cleric
Yes! It/we are all real (I hope!) - Long Live The Queen!!
Jill & Mittsy - Queenie's humble servant and guard dog of
all that is HL
_________________________________________
From C:\*.* to shining C:\*.*
_________________________________________
catcon
Dayspring wrote:
>
> catcon <cat...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> drawer, and peeking thru their window is invasion of privacy.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >
> >But Tim,
> >You say that like it's a bad thing! ;)
>
> Geez, only freaks would do things like that...
>
> By the way Tim, that shirt you were wearing the other day is just not
> you...
>
> ;)
>
> Matt, I promise... I'm just kidding... I'm a freak, but not that much of
> a freak... :)
> --
> Dayspring |_______________________________
> @XXXXXXXXXX||____________________________//
> | mmn...@vms.cis.pitt.edu
>
> They fought like warrior-poets... they
> fought like Scotsmen... and won their
> freedom...
Oh admit it Matt! You sneaked over to Tim's to see his butt. You're
just as curious as the rest of us, to see if it looks like AP's. OBTW,
you really shouldn't wear brown shoes with black pants!
Connie ;D who *probably* wouldn't peek if she knew where you guys lived
--
*****************************************************************************
catcon
Jaci and Maria
That's not a fake nose!!
Connie :D
monky...@aol.com
In article <32EFFF...@ix.netcom.com>, catcon <cat...@ix.netcom.com>
writes:
>
>caid...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> In article <19970126223...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
>> roseb...@aol.com writes:
>>
>> >
>> >Don't say that Queenie...I thought it was real too. Oh no...
>> >what's going to happen. How am I going to survive? And if
>> >they aren't real, who was the guy sitting on my bed with
>> >the nose and the toes?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Tim with a fake nose and getting ready to lead a line dance??!! Toooo
>> funny! Sorry, Tim, just couldn't resist.... ;-0
>>
>> jaci
>
>Jaci and Maria
>That's not a fake nose!!
>Connie :D
You know what they say about big noses? Eeep I'm being too
naughty today. Shut my mouth!
Tim
monky...@aol.com
In article <32EFFA...@ix.netcom.com>, catcon <cat...@ix.netcom.com>
writes:
Yeah!! My butt rulez!! :::Beavis mode off:::
Come now Connie you know you'd peek, you'd probably flat
out stare ;)
Tim
Vicki Farmer
In article <32ED3A...@microserve.net>,
Kathleen Kelley <kke...@microserve.net> wrote:
>[snipped Barb's stuff]
[snipped Alex's stuff]
>I think you've really summed up why I find this topic
>a little inappropriate. AP has revealed alot about
>his private life (wife, dogs, racing, etc) in interviews.
>I don't have any problem discussing the things he has
>publically released. The divorce has not been announced
>in any forum. AP has not mentioned it. PEACE has not
>mentioned it. To me, that makes all discussion hearsay.
>
>To that end, I think the newsgroup is too public a place
>for this discussion (I do realise that I'm contributing
>to exactly what I'm disagreeing with here).
>
>Anyway, MHO is this is a discussion for private email. :)
>--
>Kathleen [kke...@microserve.net]
Or *ahem* schmoozing over croissants and orange juice, perhaps?
;)
The difference between those who post these little tidbits for the whole
world to see on the NG and those of us who trade sekrits late at night over
hazelnut steamers is that those of us who play it a little closer to the
ol' chest understand that Knowledge Is Power. **I'll** never tell what I
know! At least not the good stuff. ;) ;) ;)
(I'd tell ya, but then I'd have to kill ya.)
Vicki F.
http://www.keytech.com/~vfarmer/
------------------------------------------------------------
Knock upon yourself as upon a door, and walk upon
yourself as on a straight road. For if you walk
upon that path you cannot go astray; and when you
knock on that door, what you open for yourself
shall open. -- The Teaching of Silvanus
------------------------------------------------------------
Jenn1017
Forgive the ignorance, what is "PW"?
Peace,
Jennifer W. Owen
"Don't squirt silly string into the wind"
Cindy Breault
PW is the acronym for Peter Wingfield, the actor who plays Methos. The
subject line on this thread is a bit confusing but IIRC, it was about
both AP and PW.
Before the rock throwing starts on privacy issues, please note that this
post is strictly about the acronym "PW".
Cindy B. - Charlotte, NC
A Highlander addict because the alternative is unthinkable.
Kathleen Kelley
Oooooh! Well, you must invite me over for croissants and
orange juice sometime. ;)
Jette Goldie
On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:54:45 -0600, catcon <cat...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
>caid...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> In article <19970126223...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
>> roseb...@aol.com writes:
>>
>> >
>> >Don't say that Queenie...I thought it was real too. Oh no...
>> >what's going to happen. How am I going to survive? And if
>> >they aren't real, who was the guy sitting on my bed with
>> >the nose and the toes?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Tim with a fake nose and getting ready to lead a line dance??!! Toooo
>> funny! Sorry, Tim, just couldn't resist.... ;-0
>>
>> jaci
>
>Jaci and Maria
>That's not a fake nose!!
>Connie :D
>
Nope - the nose is not fake <g>
Never mind AP's butt double ..............................!!!!!!!!
Jette Goldie (Joe's my jo!!)
******************************************
boss...@ednet.co.uk
http://www.ednet.co.uk/~bosslady/
Home of the Highlander Fan's Tour of Scotland
*********************************************
MJordan104
Goodness! Disappear for a while and what do you find? I heard about this
post (while visiting with BJ. I am *so* glad I got there!!) and after
reading it I wonder what the whole bruhaha is about. All I know is when I
met *the man* back in October in Denver, I was impressed, but it still
didn't make me *want* to know detail of his life. (though I like my actors
happy because it keeps the shows quality up but who knows what makes
someone happy). Is he or isn't he? Who really knows and who really
cares? I mean, seriously. Sure it might be nice if there was an official
announcement but what would that prove? Would it all make us feel better
that it is real? Or that it was all a lie?
All I know is that I *love* a show called Highlander and I *love* a
character called Duncan MacLeod (and I don't want to think about the fact
that it is just a TV show it isn't, it isn't!!! -- kind of makes me think
of the sign I saw while traveling through Arkansas as fast as I could. It
was a poster of our Pres. It read: "Please do not defase this poster.
No matter how strong the urge." After I stopped laughing and pointed it
out to my mother who fell out laughing too, I immediately thought of it
when I finished reading up on this thread. No matter how strong the urge
to comment on this particular topic, we shouldn't. I know, I know... I
couldn't help myself and let me tell you my pen was screaming at me to
scribble on the said poster to see what would happen, but I chickened out.
I like to think of myself as adventuresome, but I know me. <g>)(I have my
own opinions on this whole subject of celebrity privacy, but that's a
whole other topic and not the right n.g.).
I miss the show and the only good thing about this weekend (my computer is
still on the road somewhere so I have to borrow one) is knowing that a new
episode is coming on this weekend and I can't wait to see the posts on
those. I'm reading every spoiler I can find on the new episode. The
Valkyrie, right? I hope so.
(And as for PW? At SyndiCon the guy stood next to me, right next to me!
and I didn't even notice him.... Sigh. (What does that tell you, huh?)
:-) (but I treasure my pict with him, though). <g>)
Aaaaaaaaah... It's good to be back!! :-)
Monica J.
mjord...@aol.com
BJ :) --------',---{@
Monica! :) good to see you back on line again!! I finished "At What Price
Vengeance". What a good story! It definitely left me wondering when the
sequel would be ready to read. (hint, hint) You can't just leave it
there, ya know ;)
--
Beej (BJ) :) -------',---{@
bne...@airmail.net
Party, Party, Party - Feb 15 - Be Here!!!
The following is an excerpt from a 1950's high school
Home Economics Textbook on:
HOW TO BE A GOOD WIFE
#7 of 9 - LISTEN TO HIM. You may have a dozen things to
tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him
talk first.
mjord...@aol.com
In article <01bc0fab$e213bd60$b80e42ce@default>, "BJ :)
>
>>
>> Aaaaaaaaah... It's good to be back!! :-)
>>
>> Monica J.
>> mjord...@aol.com
>>
>
>Monica! :) good to see you back on line again!! I finished "At What
Price
>Vengeance". What a good story! It definitely left me wondering when the
>sequel would be ready to read. (hint, hint) You can't just leave it
>there, ya know ;)
Oooh, I'm in trouble now. (She's the only one Linda. I swear!!) Thanks,
Beej! I'm glad you liked it. It's my favorite story and I've been
thinking of a sequel but nothing sounds right yet. It is good to be back
and I'm enjoying the many, many threads I have to catch up on. I'm sooooo
behind, but loving it. <g> Again, thank you for allowing me and my mother
to pick up residence in your house. It was fun and worth it. :-)
Monica J.
caid...@aol.com
In article <19970202023...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
mjord...@aol.com writes:
>>> Aaaaaaaaah... It's good to be back!! :-)
>>>
>>> Monica J.
>>> mjord...@aol.com
Monica's back..Yeah!! Been thinking of you as we in Cowland just got
another 8" of that white stuff along with freezing rain. Sunshine, where
are you??!! Welcome back Monica!!
jaci
mjord...@aol.com
In article <19970205072...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
caid...@aol.com writes:
>>>> Aaaaaaaaah... It's good to be back!! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Monica J.
>>>> mjord...@aol.com
>
>Monica's back..Yeah!! Been thinking of you as we in Cowland just got
>another 8" of that white stuff along with freezing rain. Sunshine, where
>are you??!! Welcome back Monica!!
>
>
Thanks, Jaci, and I'm sorry to hear about the white stuff (you do know
that snow is a four letter word too right? right up there with work.)
Anyway, here in Phoenix it's been just wonderful. Everyone keeps warning
me about the heat, but even in DC the summer could be misearable. You
could literally take a katana and slice a path through the strong
humidity. I like Phoenix and look forward to the summer, then again I can
do like other Arizonans have been telling me they do, migrate to San
Diego. <g> Who knows? I like this moving stuff.
Monica J
mjord...@aol.com