HL SWORD...BUYERS BEWARE!!!
Beau Gales
BUYER BEWARE!
THERE IS ONLY ONE...HIGHLANDER SWORD!
There seems to be a good deal of confusion regarding the LICENSED
HIGHLANDER SWORD from the TV Series. Just as McLeod...there is
ONLY ONE...a Red Sheathed sword, MADE IN SPAIN: the black
Sheathed sword SO OFTEN PASSED OFF AS THE HIGHLANDER, has
absolutely nothing to do with the HIGHLANDER SERIES..and is made
in Taiwan, there is also an imitation made in Spain, same black
sheath...if you saw these together you would immediately realize
why paying $89 more is certainly worth while...detail is much
greater...it is wrapped in the McLeod Tartan......AT THE MOMENT
THERE IS ONLY ONE LICENSED HIGHLANDER SWORD.....buying a taiwan
or spanish made sword with a dragon doesn't say you are a
HIGHLANDER fan...in fact there are a number of swords from the
orient and spain which look similar to the Highlander in that
they have a dragon on the handle, but NONE have anything to do
with the TV Series....
The black sheathed sword which is most often deceptively passed
off as a "lower cost Highlander," and as I said before actually
has nothing to do with the Highlander is actually named "SWORD OF
THE DRAGON."
Both of these swords are shown in the Noble Collection, Fall of
1995, and you can quickly compare and see the obvious difference
between the LICENSED HIGHLANDER and "THE SWORD OF THE DRAGON."
You can also see these featured in U.S. Cavalry....both U.S.
Calvary and the Noble Collection make it completely clear that
THERE IS ONLY ONE LICENSED HIGHLANDER SWORD..and the black
sheathed one has nothing to do with the series.
This type of confusion and deception regarding LICENSED KNIVES
AND SWORDS isn't limited to THE HIGHLANDER...it has occurred in
such Licensed pieces such as "INDIANA JONES," and Gil Hibben's
"RAMBO III", where cheap knock offs were produced and sold as the
collectible, licensed pieces. In all these cases the imitation
is about as collectible as one you make at home! Unfortunately
dishonest dealers deceive and cheat those who are not
knowledgeable about cutlery.
And you are now wondering how I know what I am talking about...my
husband and I have been knife and sword dealers for many years,
and have too often seen the disappointment in the face of a new
customer when they tell us about the great deal they got only to
learn that they were royally taken. It makes me sick.
Someone is advertising on the Web now...with THE SWORD OF THE
DRAGON as one of the Highlander Licensed Swords, and the true
Licensed Sword as the one from the movie. Actually the one from
the movie won't be released till September.
The difference in price depends on where or from whom you
purchase your sword...BUYER BEWARE....THERE IS ONLY ONE!
Beau
Banzai88
In article <4ptgg5$1a...@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, YBX...@prodigy.com
(Beau Gales) writes:
>The black sheathed sword which is most often deceptively passed
>off as a "lower cost Highlander," and as I said before actually
>has nothing to do with the Highlander is actually named "SWORD OF
>THE DRAGON."
Well, I've always seen it as the "Dragon Head Katana" but still, the
"Officially Liscensed Highlander Sword" is NOT anything ever used in the
series or movies.
The only ones getting ripped off are the ones paying all that money for
the "Official" sword thinking they're getting a copy of Duncan's.
Chris
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Beau Gales
Collectibility is collectibility.....and the Licensed piece is the only
truly collectible Sword from the TV series at the moment. By sword
standards it is definitely NOT over priced.....it is in line with most
Spanish made swords of equal quality. I think Noble charges $254 plus
shipping; the Highlander Catalogue charges $215 plus shipping; I can't
recall what U.S. charges, and we charge $199....that is definitely in
line with quality Spanish made Swords.
The only shame is dishonest sellers/dealers misrepresenting the Black
Sheathed piece as the Licensed piece. Anyone purchasing the Licensed
Sword is definitely getting their money's worth.
I'd suspect you are not a sword collector.
Have a nice weekend....
Beau
Paul Sullivan
Beau Gales wrote:
>
> Collectibility is collectibility.....and the Licensed piece is the only
> truly collectible Sword from the TV series at the moment. By sword
> standards it is definitely NOT over priced.....it is in line with most
> Spanish made swords of equal quality. I think Noble charges $254 plus
> shipping; the Highlander Catalogue charges $215 plus shipping; I can't
> recall what U.S. charges, and we charge $199....that is definitely in
> line with quality Spanish made Swords.
>
> The only shame is dishonest sellers/dealers misrepresenting the Black
> Sheathed piece as the Licensed piece. Anyone purchasing the Licensed
> Sword is definitely getting their money's worth.
What is the difference. We see a few of the dragon swords at a few high
end cutlery shops and all have a black plastic sheath. All are made by
the same company in spain that makes the swords for Highlander. Are
these not the licensed swords?
Velia Tanner and Friends
In article <4ptgg5$1a...@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> YBX...@prodigy.com (Beau Gales) writes:
>BUYER BEWARE!
>THERE IS ONLY ONE...HIGHLANDER SWORD!
Actually, there are three.
>There seems to be a good deal of confusion regarding the LICENSED
>HIGHLANDER SWORD from the TV Series.
Yes, there does.
<confusion snipped>
>The black sheathed sword which is most often deceptively passed
>off as a "lower cost Highlander," and as I said before actually
>has nothing to do with the Highlander is actually named "SWORD OF
>THE DRAGON."
Marto's "Sword of the Dragon" (I don't know anything about the one made in
Taiwan) IS the sword used on the series. They buy them by the dozens from
Marto and that is what AP swings around as Duncan.
The Licensed Highlander Sword is the only one with the right to use the
name Highlander but it isn't the one used on the show.
There is also the reproduction of Connor's sword, about to be released.
I'm told that the two swords on the web page are the Licensed Sword and
Connor's Sword, *but* when the photo was taken, the sheaths were reversed,
so referring to the 'read-sheath sword' and 'black-sheath sword' isn't the
best way to tell them apart.
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Beau Gales (YBX...@prodigy.com) wrote:
> Collectibility is collectibility.....and the Licensed piece is the only
> truly collectible Sword from the TV series at the moment. By sword
Yes, but the idea is that sword is NOT from the TV series.
>
> The only shame is dishonest sellers/dealers misrepresenting the Black
> Sheathed piece as the Licensed piece. Anyone purchasing the Licensed
> Sword is definitely getting their money's worth.
>
The idea is that "The Sword of the Dragon" is the sword used in the
show... Anyone (like I did) who wants the sword from the show, wants to
get THAT sword. I could care less about collectability... I want a piece
from the show.
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Christopher Lau
Beau Gales (YBX...@prodigy.com) wrote:
: Collectibility is collectibility.....and the Licensed piece is the only
Actually, from the hundreds of thousands of these pieces made, they
will never truly be "collectible".. they will be memorabilia, but not
a collectible- and before you say anything, there *IS* a difference..
You may be correct however in that the "licensed" sword might actually
have some future value in that out of the three Marto-made swords
associated with Highlander, it is the only one that has *NEVER* actually
been used in either the TV series or the motion pictures, even though
it is the only one that is licensed to be sold under the "Highlander"
name. I have a very strong suspicion that when the Conner/Ramirez'
sword becomes available in September, this "licensed" sword will disappear
soon after and they may re-negotiate to allow the new Conner/Ramirez
sword to be sold under the "Highlander" name, but don't quote me on
that..
: truly collectible Sword from the TV series at the moment. By sword
: standards it is definitely NOT over priced.....it is in line with most
: Spanish made swords of equal quality. I think Noble charges $254 plus
: shipping; the Highlander Catalogue charges $215 plus shipping; I can't
: recall what U.S. charges, and we charge $199....that is definitely in
: line with quality Spanish made Swords.
All these replica swords most certainly *ARE* overpriced.. Being an
amateur bladesmith myself, I can tell you that the cost in materials
for one of these is about $20 inclusive.. The workmanship is not
of a high enough standard to justify IMO even a $100 price tag- to
be precise: the grinding is poorly done, particularly near the point,
the heat treating job is extremely poor (so much so that the "tempered
steel" appellation in all the ad texts are pretty much meaningless..),
and finally, the assembly work on most of these is extremely shoddy-
they tend to be able to get straight swords right (probably because it's
so obvious), but they tend to mount most curved swords such that the
hilt points forward instead of following the natural curve of the blade
(out of all the flaws, this is the one that just irritates the hell out
of me because its so visually obvious, even from a distance..). All of
these flaws are very common on the "quality (hah!) Spanish-made swords";
on the other hand, the cheaper Asian-made replicas, while made with poorer
grades of steel and other materials, all seem to be assembled quite well,
and most come with a fair wooden scabbard instead of a cheap piece of bent
aluminum tubing.. I think they need to ship some of those Taiwanese
craftsmen over to Spain to assemble these things...
: The only shame is dishonest sellers/dealers misrepresenting the Black
: Sheathed piece as the Licensed piece. Anyone purchasing the Licensed
: Sword is definitely getting their money's worth.
No, the shame is that they're misrepresenting the licensed piece as the
sword that was used by Conner in the movies or more recently, as the
sword that Duncan uses in the TV series when neither is true.. The
license on this sword basically allows the "Highlander" name to be used
in association with it, it *DOESN'T* mean that it is a replica of a sword
actually used..
: I'd suspect you are not a sword collector.
If you're buying movie replicas and worried about licensing, you're not
collecting swords, you're collecting movie stuff.. Sword collecting is
quite a different hobby, a much more expensive hobby too as I can attest..
Most replicas have no place in a good collection- I only have four left,
the first is a good quality Japanese-made replica that I used as my first
iaido practice sword, the second and third are a 1st (no ring) and 2nd
edition (ring) of the Dragon Head katana that Duncan uses on the TV series,
and the last is a replica blade that I fitted into a hilt that I carved
into the shape of a seahorse (one of my first carvings incidentally, it's
turned into one of my favorite motifs in my work). The rest are genuine
antique swords dating from as early as the 12th century to as late as
WWII.. I've also got some that I've made with modern blades and fittings,
but I'm not sure where to put them as they're not antiques with any history,
and they're not simply wall hangers like replicas.. But to get back to
the point, a sword collector shouldn't be concerned so much with things
like licensed vs. unlicensed pieces.. I've got many unsigned blades and
even a couple with fake signatures (including an ichimonji fake), but they're
very nice swords and have their own merits (and value) outside of their
attributions, be they real or fake (or non-existent in the case of an
unsigned blade)..
: Have a nice weekend....
: Beau
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Patrick L. Black
Greetings,
Since the people posting in this thread seem to know something about
swords, which I must confess I do not, this seemed the place for this
question.
I am a great fan of HIGHLANDER, and I also practice what is called
Suburi, which is a form of exercise based on kendo (or kenjutsu). It
is not a combat art as such, but uses movents from japanese sword
figthing to build strenght, endurance and gracefull movement. I have
been practicing with a bokken which is a wooden sword, but I been
thinking about purchasing a real sword to work with.
My question is: Would the "Liscensed Higlander" sword be suitable for
such use? Is it crated in a manner that would withstand such a range
of usage? I have also gotten catalogs from a company called the edge,
that has several katanas listed.
Any help would be appreciated.
Patrick Black
plb...@dcaccess.com
Scott Wasilewski
From what I've heard, the HL katanas are wall-hangers. And also,
you'll want to practice (I would think, anyway) with a wooden sword,
as even the two katanas I bought at an army surplus store are quite
sharp, and it's a lot easier to recover from a bump from a wooden
sword than it is a slice from anything.
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Christopher Lau
: Since the people posting in this thread seem to know something about
: swords, which I must confess I do not, this seemed the place for this
: question.
: I am a great fan of HIGHLANDER, and I also practice what is called
: Suburi, which is a form of exercise based on kendo (or kenjutsu). It
: is not a combat art as such, but uses movents from japanese sword
: figthing to build strenght, endurance and gracefull movement. I have
: been practicing with a bokken which is a wooden sword, but I been
: thinking about purchasing a real sword to work with.
: My question is: Would the "Liscensed Higlander" sword be suitable for
: such use? Is it crated in a manner that would withstand such a range
: of usage? I have also gotten catalogs from a company called the edge,
: that has several katanas listed.
None of the Highlander swords is really ideal for use as a practice
sword, but if you really want to use one of them, the "Dragon Head
katana" (aka "The Sword of the Dragon", Duncan's sword) is a better
choice.. the "Highlander"'s hilt is a bit too thick and bulky- ie,
it's shaped to be nice looking rather than for good grip. In terms of
durability, the "Highlander" is also a poorer choice- the hilt is
solid plastic, rather than the plastic over steel sleeve construction
of the "Dragon Head", which means it's considerably weaker.. If your
art involves use of the scabbard, the plain scabbard of the "Dragon
Head" is also a better choice than the decorated scabbard of the
"Highlander", which has too many little toys and attachments to get
caught in your belt..
I originally started out with a "Dragon Head katana" with the hilt
wrapped in white cord as my iaido practice sword, I found that while
it has probably the best balance of any sword I've held, real or
replica, it's got too much mass in the hilt, which gives it a poor
feel compared to a real sword, and also makes it a very slow sword to
use.. I now use a real sword exclusively, and there's no way I would
go back to a replica.. However, replicas are still good starter swords-
as long as you don't intend to try using a replica even in mock
combat, there are quite a few other models that are more suitable for
use as kata practice weapons than the Highlander series.. Of the Marto
line, my suggestions are the Marto MJ350, 411, 415 or 416. These are
probably the best Marto has to offer- grooved blade, lacquered wood
scabbards- the 350 is plain black, the 415 and 416 have a floral
design in the scabbard, the 411 has a dragon design. These are also
more expensive than any of the Highlander series, but the workmanship
is also much better.. Of the Gladius line, my suggestion is the "Full
tang" series, but only if you intend to wrap the hilts with something-
the plain tapered wood hilt offers very poor grip (mainly because of
the taper..).. If you know how to correctly perform tsuka-maki, I'd
suggest a traditional wrap, otherwise, tennis racket grip wrap or that
self-vulcanizing rubber tape stuff are both good alternatives (and
very easy and cheap to replace when they wear out or get dirty).
As for a real sword, if you look around, you might be able to pick up
a Japanese military sword from WWII in reasonable condition for around
$500 US.. If you go this route, you'll most likely have to have a new
scabbard and a new hilt made for it, which will cost around $300
(~$150 each piece), but having a real sword is definitely worth it.
Having used a real sword for the last few years, I find that I can't
use most replicas because their weight and/or balance is way out..
From the standpoint of a collector, most replicas have no place in a
serious sword collection because they simply don't look like real
swords.. Especially Japanese swords- the lines of replica swords are
never sharp, all the corners are rounded because they were polished
with a buffer rather than by hand with stones, the false temper line
doesn't look anything like a real one, the ground stainless steel doesn't
have any activity, it's just a dead hunk of metal.. Price should not
be the deciding factor if you're collecting swords, it just means that
you can't buy as many real swords as replicas but remember- one real
sword is much more desirable than any two replicas, and you can always
trade real swords for better ones, and you can't do that with replicas..
: Any help would be appreciated.
: Patrick Black
: plb...@dcaccess.com
Claire Maier
Beau Gales (YBX...@prodigy.com) wrote:
: Collectibility is collectibility.....and the Licensed piece is the only
: standards it is definitely NOT over priced.....it is in line with most
: Spanish made swords of equal quality. I think Noble charges $254 plus
: shipping; the Highlander Catalogue charges $215 plus shipping; I can't
: recall what U.S. charges, and we charge $199....that is definitely in
: line with quality Spanish made Swords.
Collectibility-- for a sword that isn't used on the show or in the
movies, and that was made purely to cash in on the Highlander name, and
that Adrian Paul doesn't even like? I think most fans would rather have
the model sword actually used on the series, even if it doesn't have a
highfalutin' name.
: The only shame is dishonest sellers/dealers misrepresenting the Black
: Sheathed piece as the Licensed piece. Anyone purchasing the Licensed
: Sword is definitely getting their money's worth.
Hmmm... I bet Adrian Paul doesn't think so.
: I'd suspect you are not a sword collector.
I'd suspect you aren't a Highlander fan.
Banzai88
In article <4pud80$1i...@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, YBX...@prodigy.com
(Beau Gales) writes:
>I'd suspect you are not a sword collector.
I certainly wouldn't collect one that billed itself as something it
wouldn't,
no matter how much the *name* would be worth later. It's not a
*reproduction* of a MacLeod's sword (either MacLeod), so it's not worth
*anything* to me.
>The only shame is dishonest sellers/dealers misrepresenting the Black
>Sheathed piece as the Licensed piece. Anyone purchasing the Licensed
>Sword is definitely getting their money's worth.
It may well be a very fine sword. And if you want to collect something
that is "Highlander" in name only, fine by me.
But if I were to get one, it would be something like
Duncan MacLeod has actually used, no matter what they call it.
(though, as I said before, all I'm interested in is Connor's so it's kind
of a moot point)
*I've* never seen the 'Dragon Head' advertised as the Licensed piece,
which it's obviously not, just as the one DM uses, which it IS.
The "Official Highlander Sword" hasn't even been around for more than a
year or so.
I've heard that at one of the conventions Adrian Paul saw it for the first
time and wondered what the heck it was, because it was no Highlander sword
he'd ever seen. He seemed quite comfortable with the "Dragon Head" at the
Con I was at.
Heck, you can tell on the cover of the catalog that it's the 'Dragon
Head,' and there's a couple of good shots in the calendar, too.
For many fine details, see the psot "Sword confusion: Answer to "WRONG
SWORD......WHY???" and "HL SWORD...BUYERS BEWARE" from Dayspring
<mmn...@vms.cis.pitt.edu>.
A collector as best I remember.
Have a nice day,
Dayspring
banz...@aol.com (Banzai88) wrote:
[snip good post though, absolutely right!]
>For many fine details, see the psot "Sword confusion: Answer to "WRONG
>SWORD......WHY???" and "HL SWORD...BUYERS BEWARE" from Dayspring
><mmn...@vms.cis.pitt.edu>.
>A collector as best I remember.
>
>Have a nice day,
>Chris
>
>
>Banz...@aol.com
Who me? A collector? I wish I had that kind of money! :) :)
I'm with you Chris, I'm waiting for the Connor MacLeod sword. If the
urge strikes me enough I may buy one of the William Wallace swords, but
until I land that 6 figure job, I'm just in it for the replicas. I only
own one sword for now, a cheap copy (nice looking though, much better
than a battle worthy one) of an El Cid Colada from Medieval Times of
Toronto (if you've never gone, and you have a chance to, go, you'll enjoy
it! There are a few more scattered throughout the U.S.). But boy oh
boy, I can't wait for the Connor MacLeod sword!
Now maybe we can get them to make a replica of the MacLeod claymore!
Matt
P.S. If anybody wants to see that post Chris (thanks Chris! :) )
mentioned, and doesn't have it on their server still, just email me and
I'll mail it back. I happened to like that one, so I saved it. :)
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In article <4q09ff$4...@globe.indirect.com>, plb...@dcaccess.com (Patrick
L. Black) writes:
>Greetings,
>
>Since the people posting in this thread seem to know something about
>swords, which I must confess I do not, this seemed the place for this
>question.
>
>I am a great fan of HIGHLANDER, and I also practice what is called
>Suburi, which is a form of exercise based on kendo (or kenjutsu). It
>is not a combat art as such, but uses movents from japanese sword
>figthing to build strenght, endurance and gracefull movement. I have
>been practicing with a bokken which is a wooden sword, but I been
>thinking about purchasing a real sword to work with.
>
>My question is: Would the "Liscensed Higlander" sword be suitable for
>such use? Is it crated in a manner that would withstand such a range
>of usage? I have also gotten catalogs from a company called the edge,
>that has several katanas listed.
The Liscensed sword sux and is unweildy, with too large of a
handle. The Marto Dragonhead katana is the most well
balanced blade I have ever held. It is a little heavier than most
katana's though.
Tim
Monkysquat
>
>Collectibility is collectibility.....and the Licensed piece is the only
>truly collectible Sword from the TV series at the moment. By sword
>standards it is definitely NOT over priced.....it is in line with most
>Spanish made swords of equal quality. I think Noble charges $254 plus
>shipping; the Highlander Catalogue charges $215 plus shipping; I can't
>recall what U.S. charges, and we charge $199....that is definitely in
>line with quality Spanish made Swords.
>
>The only shame is dishonest sellers/dealers misrepresenting the Black
>Sheathed piece as the Licensed piece. Anyone purchasing the Licensed
>Sword is definitely getting their money's worth.
>
>I'd suspect you are not a sword collector.
>
>Have a nice weekend....
>
>Beau
>
>
Sorry but I suspect you know nothing about Highlander and the
swords used in it. The officially liscensed Highlander sword is
the one that's ripping people off because they think they are
getting a replica of either the movie or the series sword
depending on which ad you read. That sword has nothing to
do with Highlander, they just paid to use the name. The
Dragonhead katana or Sword of the Dragon may not be
officially liscensed but it is the sword that is used in the
series. Not a replica, the actual sword. Marto supplies
the same sword to the series that they sell to the general
public. They don't need to be officially liscensed anyway
since this sword existed before the series did. Anyone
with two good eyes can plainly see that the liscensed
sword is nothing at all like either of the swords it claims
to be. I think the term is false advertising? Why don't
we fans sue them for misrepresenting this sword?
I suspect you are trying to sell your overstock of a sword
no one wants because it's nothing but a wolf in sheeps
clothing.
Tim
CMacLeod28
Yes, Indeed I saw we revolt and sue, proteset and whatever else be needed
to get a good clean Licensed looking dragon Katana like then DM Uses. That
has something to do with the show. And like most other's I await the
arrival of the sword of Connor Macleod. however, I hope there's nothing
wrong with that and the detail is correct. Also I have seen the Scottish
Claymore on the a web site and that looks just like the one used in
homeland. They also have the basket hilt broad sword and Kanes Dark magic
from highlander 3. Can somebody who knows greatly about swords tell me if
these are the actual blades.Before I but one. The Macleod Kantans Duncan's
and Connor's i know are not real well not sure about Duncan's it look
pretty good. What i really need to know is about the Claymore and the
Basket hilt. Kindly post or E-mail the Address is as follows
Http://www.nuc.net/hsfsword/
Highlander: Hey It's A Kind Of Magic
Ellen B. Layendecker
As to the usage of the swords in real combat situations, I believe the Marto is a real,
tempered SS blade. There are several good knife catalogs that carry reproduction
swords. These have fairly good descriptions of the content, temper & weight of the
blades. CAS Iberia carries a nice selection Spanish steel. Call 423-332-4700.
For more information on the blades actually used in filming HL, see the current issue
of Blade magazine (August 1996) for an article by Braun McAsh, swordmaster for
the show.
Monkysquat
In article <4qb1qk$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, cmacl...@aol.com
(CMacLeod28) writes:
Marto's Dragonhead katana is the actual sword used by Duncan
in the series. It's unchanged, these are the same swords they
ship to the series. A very good replica of Connor/Ramirez's
katana will be available in Sept. The "Dark Magic" sword is
not an exact copy of Kane's sword but it was carved by the
same man Jose DeBragas. It is virtually identical, you can't
tell the difference unless you have them side by side. He had
to change it slightly for copyright reasons. The Claymore from
"Homeland" is a stock Marto Claymore as is the Baskethilt.
All the swords on HL are supplied by Marto.
Tim
Christopher Lau
Ellen B. Layendecker (elle...@mediacity.com) wrote:
: Monkysquat wrote:
: >
: > In article <4q09ff$4...@globe.indirect.com>, plb...@dcaccess.com (Patrick
: > L. Black) writes:
: >
: > >
: > >My question is: Would the "Liscensed Higlander" sword be suitable for
: > >such use? Is it crated in a manner that would withstand such a range
: > >of usage? I have also gotten catalogs from a company called the edge,
: > >that has several katanas listed.
: >
: > The Liscensed sword sux and is unweildy, with too large of a
: > handle. The Marto Dragonhead katana is the most well
: > balanced blade I have ever held. It is a little heavier than most
: > katana's though.
: >
: > Tim
: As to the usage of the swords in real combat situations, I believe the Marto is a real,
: tempered SS blade. There are several good knife catalogs that carry reproduction
Yes, they're tempered, but badly.. What do you expect when you put 1500
in an oven together?? In addition, stainless steel is absolutely the
*wrong* material for a sword- among other things, it has very poor shock
resistance properties.. Since you happen to be mentioning Blade magazine
elsewhere in your post, take a moment to read ABS Mastersmith Wayne Goddard's
column (one of the few worthwhile articles in that magazine), one of his
favorite topics is the unsuitability of any stainless steel for sword
blades, and he usually manages to get this in it seems every other column..
These stainless replica swords don't last long even in mock combat
situations, so if you expect to be able to take one of these into actual
combat, you're in for a big surprise.. The reasons they use stainless
even though it's a more expensive and less suitable material than plain
carbon steel are: 1) stainless polishes up to a mirror finish very easily,
and this is desirable in display pieces, and 2) display pieces tend to get
handled a lot, and stainless won't rust if handled by a lot of sticky fingers..
: swords. These have fairly good descriptions of the content, temper & weight of the
: blades. CAS Iberia carries a nice selection Spanish steel. Call 423-332-4700.
Modern Spanish steel isn't anything special, especially if it's a standard
variety like 440C or 420C, which is going to be the same whether the foundry
is in Spain or elsewhere.. (Think about it, if it's called 440C, it must have
a certain composition and so it's going to be the same no matter who makes it)
Yes, some spectacular weapons came out of medieval Toledo, but that was
hundreds of years ago and the rest of the world has since caught up and
surpassed them.. Spain has been relying on the reputation of Toledo to
fob off these cheap replicas on the rest of the world for years, and these
blades simply don't deserve the awe that some people seem to hold them in..
They're adequate blades for replicas, and that's all..
Also check your number.. (423) isn't an area code.. the middle digit must
be 0 or 1.. TN is area code 615 I believe..
: For more information on the blades actually used in filming HL, see the current issue
: of Blade magazine (August 1996) for an article by Braun McAsh, swordmaster for
: the show.
Custom made aluminum blades mounted in Marto hilts for safety..
c4
Bert Evans
cc...@bmers2dd.bnr.ca (Christopher Lau) wrote:
>Also check your number.. (423) isn't an area code.. the middle digit must
>be 0 or 1.. TN is area code 615 I believe..
>
>Christopher Lau | Nortel Wireless Networks / Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Bummer. I guess no one is going to be able to call me anymore since
the phone company changed the 615 area code to 423 more than half a
year ago.
Furthermore, area codes no longer conform to the rule you stated.
Just too many people with phones.
Guess the operations people just don't tell you research guys anything
anymore.
Bert Evans
Vicki Farmer
Christopher Lau wrote:
> Also check your number.. (423) isn't an area code.. the middle digit must
> be 0 or 1.. TN is area code 615 I believe..
Extremely minor quibble, totally off topic. This business with the
middle digit having to be 0 or 1 for an area code is no longer correct,
at least in the US. In the last 5 years, there have been several new
area codes that had other digits in the middle (two examples that I know
about personally: Oregon, 541; Washington state, 360). The problem, as
I understand it, was that with all of the cell phones, modem lines, and
fax lines, the phone companies were running out of phone numbers, plain
and simple. That said, I must add that I don't know if 423 is a correct
area code for TN or not...
--
Vicki F.
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Supra's Vancouver, WA customer service number is
360-604-1410. Looks "backwards", doesn't it?
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Kathleen Kelley
Vicki Farmer wrote:
>
> Christopher Lau wrote:
>
> > Also check your number.. (423) isn't an area code.. the middle digit must
> > be 0 or 1.. TN is area code 615 I believe..
>
> Extremely minor quibble, totally off topic. This business with the
> middle digit having to be 0 or 1 for an area code is no longer correct,
> at least in the US. In the last 5 years, there have been several new
> area codes that had other digits in the middle (two examples that I know
> about personally: Oregon, 541; Washington state, 360). The problem, as
> I understand it, was that with all of the cell phones, modem lines, and
> fax lines, the phone companies were running out of phone numbers, plain
> and simple. That said, I must add that I don't know if 423 is a correct
> area code for TN or not...
Okay, as long as we're already off topic. Did you ever wonder if there
was **any** rhyme or reason to the way area codes were assigned???
There is... If you notice, the largest cities (or at the largest at
the time they first received their area codes) have the lowest area codes.
This is because the telephones were rotary and they wanted the cities
with the heaviest incoming calls to be quick to dial.
Highlander tie in: I have the same telephone as Tessa/Duncan in
season #1.
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Kathleen
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monky...@aol.com (Monkysquat) wrote:
>Tim
I have freeze-framed the scene in the first movie where Connor reaches
for his sword under the car.In the close-up,the end seems to be larger
and more ornate than that of the sword being sold as the movie
replica.The same thing can be seen in Highlander III after the sword
is broken when Connor lays the broken sword on the counter while he
chops oranges.So,where do I get a true replica,if at all?And for the
nit-pickers in the audience,what's with all the oranges?Did Connor buy
one of those damn juice machines or is vitamin C the source of the
quickening?
Joe Meadowcroft
Since February 96 423 has been the area code for East Tennessee.
615 remains middle Tennessee's area code
CaRnaGE
In article <4t6aka$6...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, btig...@aol.com
says...
>
>I purchased a Red Dragon Katana from Shop at home which is the
same as
>Frost Cutlery out of Chattenooga TN. Not bad for the $149.00. Does
anyone
>hhave any info on Marta? If so please e-mail it to me it would be
greatly
>apppreciated.
>
>BTIG...@aol.com
I have the red dragon sword from the Noble collection. It's never
been in the movie or the T.V. series but there is only one place that
sells al the ones from the series and the movies but I can't
remember off hand. I check later, I know I have the catalog
somewhere. Or if you want you can E-mail me for more info.
BTIGGERT
I would really appreciate more information if you could "dig it up"?