What's the WORST episode?
Vitum Eternum
This may have been a topic sometime in the past, but I am interested in
knowing what YOU,the loving fans of Highlander think is the most gawd aweful
episode of our favorite show?
Please (if you can) include the name and a short description of the ep. And to
start thinks off...here's my choice:
"Nowhere to Run" -- a snotty neredowell rapes a local girl who's adopted
father turns out to be a Picard-esque k'immie. Fortunately, when out villian
comes for "justice", the snot-nosed rich boy's father is Tessa's brother
(ummm....I think). So our hero Duncan booby traps the house against the
mercanaries hired by Picard. Highlights include Duncan hurling a rotary saw
blade across a room and nailing a merc in the heart, The Folger's coffee guy
turning another hapless mercanary into a towering inferno with a home made
flame thrower.
This show has a very serious theme, and tosses it aside so Adrian Paul can
have something to show producers if he ever wants to be the next James Bond,
perhaps a remake of the Die Hard films.
Matthew
All around nice guy
mh...@juno.com
Jerri LaPoint
Worst episode has got to be The Zone. Joe approaches MacLeod after one of
the watchers is killed and asks him to investigate the murder. We get a lot
of posturing by Charlie about how MacLeod will get his butt kicked in The
Zone because he wouldn't know how to handle himself. And we get a lot of
posturing by petty thugs, and a WHOLE lot of quivering neighborhood folks
who don't seem to have the gumption to mash a turnip much less whomp on a
weakling minor dictator. And then there's the woman who is used by the
dictator to provide medical services for the community, even though he's a
jerk, and ... oh just kill me now. Even describing this episode is
wearisome. It's an automatic fast-forward when I hit it on the video tapes.
Jerri
Dayspring
mh...@juno.com (Vitum Eternum) wrote:
>This may have been a topic sometime in the past, but I am interested in
>knowing what YOU,the loving fans of Highlander think is the most gawd aweful
>episode of our favorite show?
>
>Please (if you can) include the name and a short description of the ep. And to
>start thinks off...here's my choice:
>
>"Nowhere to Run" -- a snotty neredowell rapes a local girl who's adopted
>father turns out to be a Picard-esque k'immie. Fortunately, when out
[snip]
My vote goes to "Bad Medicine". I'm not even going to bother describing
it... it's just that bad.
On the other hand, call me weird (Weird!), but I actually enjoy some of
the episodes that most people hate. I liked "Nowhere to Run". I also
liked "Bad Day in Building A" (Die Hard in a Courthouse), which I think
is one of those episodes almost universally considered "bad". I also
liked most of the recent "funny" episodes that bothered people, like
"Dramatic License" and "Money No Object" too. Actually, when I think
Highlander, I still think of a lot of the first season episodes that
bother people, because they're usually still exploring just what they
want the character to be. I don't know why... I just like them.
Matt
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Vitum Eternum <mh...@juno.com> wrote in article
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> This may have been a topic sometime in the past, but I am interested in
> knowing what YOU,the loving fans of Highlander think is the most gawd
aweful
> episode of our favorite show?
>
> Please (if you can) include the name and a short description of the ep.
And to
> start thinks off...here's my choice:
>
> "Nowhere to Run" -- a snotty neredowell rapes a local girl who's adopted
> father turns out to be a Picard-esque k'immie. Fortunately, when out
villian
> comes for "justice", the snot-nosed rich boy's father is Tessa's brother
> (ummm....I think). So our hero Duncan booby traps the house against the
> mercanaries hired by Picard. Highlights include Duncan hurling a rotary
saw
> blade across a room and nailing a merc in the heart, The Folger's coffee
guy
> turning another hapless mercanary into a towering inferno with a home
made
> flame thrower.
>
> This show has a very serious theme, and tosses it aside so Adrian Paul
can
> have something to show producers if he ever wants to be the next James
Bond,
> perhaps a remake of the Die Hard films.
>
> Matthew
> All around nice guy
> mh...@juno.com
Hey, I liked that one. I think Dunkie had see Home Alone. I am currently
practicing with the circular saw blade (cause, like Eleanor, I don't have a
sword) and with the bear trap. I am ready....
Jax
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>
Morgan LaFey
at the convention Panzer said they couldn't really behead a kid
(Kenny) on television. If they're killing kids, what does it
matter how they die.
morgana
Alamarana8
*The* worst episode... hmmmm.... I guess that would have to be "The Zone",
the episode where that power freak who wears *the* tackiest clothes is
trying to control a would be cult to go out and `take the material
possessions that they have been denied'.... oooooo I really did not like
that one.
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"Jax" <jbu...@ris.net> wrote:
>
>
>Vitum Eternum <mh...@juno.com> wrote in article
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>> "Nowhere to Run"
<snip>
>> Highlights include Duncan hurling a rotary saw blade across a room and >>nailing a merc in the heart, The Folger's coffee guy tur=
ning another >>hapless mercanary into a towering inferno with a home made flame >>thrower.
>>
>> This show has a very serious theme, and tosses it aside so Adrian Paul
>can
>> have something to show producers if he ever wants to be the next James
>Bond,
>> perhaps a remake of the Die Hard films.
>>
>Hey, I liked that one. I think Dunkie had see Home Alone.
Actually, Duncan was just trying to be MCGYVER!!
Keith D Gregory
In article <01bc1b7c$e5122ec0$9e02c1cf@jlapoint>, "Jerri LaPoint"
<jlap...@idir.net> wrote:
> Worst episode has got to be The Zone.
> [snip]
Not to mention that we suddenly see a scene from Max Headroom, less
than 20 minutes into the future ...
-kdg
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On 16 Feb 1997 02:19:29 GMT, alama...@aol.com (Alamarana8) wrote:
hmmm, Not sure of the episodes name, but it had to do with Amanda and
another guy being bonnie and clyde, while Duncan digs them up after
the police shoot and kill them. What really took the cake was Duncan
and the other guy blowing up. If any imm had 10 sticks of tnt blow
them up, they'd be missing more than their head. Looked like cartoon
show. :-) Oh well, I have to admit it was a funny episode, just hope
some would be highlander fan didn't pick that night to check out what
the shows about...
Jerri LaPoint
answer please :) <questi...@aol.com)> wrote in article
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surfing and never seen Highlander before, I would have loved it and not
been able to wait for the next episode. On the other hand, if End of
Innocence or Haunted had been the 1st episode I'd seen, I'd prob'ly never
have stopped in Highlander territory again.
roseb...@aol.com
Well, I think each season has had some doosies...
but ultimately, I am going to say "The Zone" and "Haunted" have
got to be my least favorite episodes.
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Morgan LaFey
Jerri LaPoint wrote:
>
>> snipped <<
> The episode was Money No Object and it was excellent. If I'd been channel
> surfing and never seen Highlander before, I would have loved it and not
> been able to wait for the next episode.
>
I agree completely. Loved "Money No Object" and would have stopped
channel surfing so much sooner, instead of skipping Highlander for
so long.
morgana
lysa...@wco.com
Dayspring wrote:
>
> mh...@juno.com (Vitum Eternum) wrote:
> >This may have been a topic sometime in the past, but I am interested in
> >knowing what YOU,the loving fans of Highlander think is the most gawd aweful
> >episode of our favorite show?
> >
> >Please (if you can) include the name and a short description of the ep. And to
> >start thinks off...here's my choice:
> >
> >"Nowhere to Run" -- a snotty neredowell rapes a local girl who's adopted
> >father turns out to be a Picard-esque k'immie. Fortunately, when out
>
>
> My vote goes to "Bad Medicine". I'm not even going to bother describing
> it... it's just that bad.
>
> On the other hand, call me weird (Weird!), but I actually enjoy some of
> the episodes that most people hate. I liked "Nowhere to Run". I also
> liked "Bad Day in Building A" (Die Hard in a Courthouse), which I think
> is one of those episodes almost universally considered "bad". I also
> liked most of the recent "funny" episodes that bothered people, like
> "Dramatic License" and "Money No Object" too. Actually, when I think
> Highlander, I still think of a lot of the first season episodes that
> bother people, because they're usually still exploring just what they
> want the character to be. I don't know why... I just like them.
>
> Matt
>
Matt, did you mean Deadly Medicine? :) I vote for it too. But Blitz is
not far behind.:)
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True... but that kid in "The Zone" was a teenager (almost a man) as
opposed to Kenny, who appeared to be only about 10 (but a real creep).
I guess that's the difference.
Kathy
Colin L. Whipple
I have been reading so much about Kenny that I am looking forward to seeing
him when that ep comes around again.
No details, please, except, which ep, in which season, should I be on the
lookout for?
Colin
Morey, Kathy M <kmm...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
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Morey, Kathy M
Colin L. Whipple wrote:
>
> I have been reading so much about Kenny that I am looking forward to seeing
> him when that ep comes around again.
>
> No details, please, except, which ep, in which season, should I be on the
> lookout for?
>
> Colin
Kenny appeared in "The Lamb", season 3, ep 7, and again in "Reunion",
season 4, ep 6.
Enjoy
Kathy
(Be sure to let us know what you think of the little twerp...)
Morey, Kathy M
"End of Innocence" is season 5, ep 2 (as filmed, actually ep 3 as shown
since they held back "One Minute to Midnight"). It's the one where Mac
and Rich meet for the first time since the DQ.
"The Zone" was season 2, ep 6. Mac is asked by Joe to check out a guy
the Watchers think may be an immortal, who killed a Watcher. He turns
out to be just your normal, mortal evil creepo, who makes the mistake of
ticking Mac off. I personally didn't think it was the greates ep TPTB
have ever made, but there are others I like less. It does have some
good "Mac as a martial artist" fight scenes, IMO.
Kathy
(And I hesitate to mention that it has a good exchange between Mac and
Charlie, as well.) (::ducking::)
Morgan LaFey
Morey, Kathy M wrote:
>
> "The Zone" was season 2, ep 6. Mac is asked by Joe to check out a guy
> the Watchers think may be an immortal, who killed a Watcher. He turns
> out to be just your normal, mortal evil creepo, who makes the mistake of
> ticking Mac off. I personally didn't think it was the greates ep TPTB
> have ever made, but there are others I like less. It does have some
> good "Mac as a martial artist" fight scenes, IMO.
>
> Kathy
> (And I hesitate to mention that it has a good exchange between Mac and
> Charlie, as well.) (::ducking::)
I actually liked this episode better after I got to see the
Euro-Minutes because of some of the banter between Mac and Charlie.
It actually moved this episode up for me, which left "Bless the
Child" at the bottom of my list.
morgana
Morey, Kathy M
Nit-picking in the interests of accuracy... :-}
> >"Nowhere to Run" -- a snotty neredowell rapes a local girl who's adopted
> >father turns out to be a Picard-esque k'immie. Fortunately, when out villian
> >comes for "justice", the snot-nosed rich boy's father is Tessa's brother
> >(ummm....I think).
Tessa's old friend, actually - his mother and Tessa's mother were best
friends, Tess spent a lot of time with his family as a child, and had a
crush on him when she was little and he was a teenager (cute comment
about her liking "older men" even back then, with Duncan wondering if he
should thank the guy).
> >So our hero Duncan booby traps the house against the
> >mercanaries hired by Picard. Highlights include Duncan hurling a rotary saw
> >blade across a room and nailing a merc in the heart, The Folger's coffee guy
> >turning another hapless mercanary into a towering inferno with a home made
> >flame thrower.
Yeah, lots of gruesome violence in this one... could have done without
the flame thrower and the bear trap, myself. But how else do you defend
yourself against people with guns when you have no weapons and no way to
contact the outside for help? And when you try to reason with the
attacker and he won't hear it?
> >
> >This show has a very serious theme, and tosses it aside so Adrian Paul can
> >have something to show producers if he ever wants to be the next James Bond,
> >perhaps a remake of the Die Hard films.
I suppose the Adrian crack was meant as a joke, since I doubt that
thought crossed the minds of the writers, producers, etc. ... I think
the theme was that violence is never the answer to violence, when
mortals that can be handled by the authorities are involved, anyway. I
thought that came across pretty well with how badly everything ended for
the people involved.
And I thought there was a pretty good scene of Mac and Tessa, where she
asked if this was what war was like, and said she didn't like it much.
And Mac answered, "Neither do I."
I think there were just too many grisly deaths of people who were
essentially extras, for me. That sort of wholesale violence isn't
typical of an HL ep. But I do think they made the point they were
trying to make.
Kathy
> >
> >Matthew
> >All around nice guy
> >mh...@juno.com
>
> That's the episode !.... does anyone know the name of the band doing the
> vocals in the opening scenes ???? The vocals sound so familiar but I
> can't place it.
>
> I thought the episode was OK, there have been worse. Such as the one
> with Sandra Bernhard ....
>
> If anyone knows the name of that band, please post or email ...
Queenie
lysa...@wco.com wrote:
> > >knowing what YOU,the loving fans of Highlander think is the most gawd aweful
> > >episode of our favorite show?
> > >
> > >Please (if you can) include the name and a short description of the ep. And to
> > >start thinks off...here's my choice:
> > >
> > >father turns out to be a Picard-esque k'immie. Fortunately, when out
> >
> >
> > My vote goes to "Bad Medicine". I'm not even going to bother describing
> > it... it's just that bad.
> >
> > On the other hand, call me weird (Weird!), but I actually enjoy some of
> > the episodes that most people hate. I liked "Nowhere to Run". I also
> > liked "Bad Day in Building A" (Die Hard in a Courthouse), which I think
> > is one of those episodes almost universally considered "bad". I also
> > liked most of the recent "funny" episodes that bothered people, like
> > "Dramatic License" and "Money No Object" too. Actually, when I think
> > Highlander, I still think of a lot of the first season episodes that
> > bother people, because they're usually still exploring just what they
> > want the character to be. I don't know why... I just like them.
> >
> > Matt
> >
>
> Matt, did you mean Deadly Medicine? :) I vote for it too. But Blitz is
> not far behind.:)
>
> --
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The Blitz is definitely one of the five worst ever, along with
the Zone, the Innocent, and Bless the Child. In fact, I hate
the Zone and the Innocent so much, I won't watch either of them!
Queenie
Locutus
mh...@juno.com (Vitum Eternum) wrote:
>"Nowhere to Run" -- a snotty neredowell rapes a local girl who's adopted
>father turns out to be a Picard-esque k'immie. Fortunately, when out villian
>comes for "justice", the snot-nosed rich boy's father is Tessa's brother
>(ummm....I think). So our hero Duncan booby traps the house against the
>mercanaries hired by Picard. Highlights include Duncan hurling a rotary saw
>blade across a room and nailing a merc in the heart, The Folger's coffee guy
>turning another hapless mercanary into a towering inferno with a home made
>flame thrower.
>
>This show has a very serious theme, and tosses it aside so Adrian Paul can
>have something to show producers if he ever wants to be the next James Bond,
>perhaps a remake of the Die Hard films.
>
banz...@aol.com
"Money No Object"
"The Zone" is a close second.
Chris
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Here we go again...for people that have time to spare.
Bless the Child????
apologizes for not knowing titles yet,
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The ep with Sandra Barnhard (sp?) was awesome. So it wasn't our dark and
deep Comes a Horseman or Rev 6:8, but it was light hearted and funny. HL
doesn't always have to be serious.
IMHO of course :)
Jessica
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Eventually they are going to have to get rid of Kenny. It's different
with adults, but kids don't look the same young age for more than 3-4
years tops (with lots of makeup). They might just have him disappear, or
they can have someone that killed him off come into a story, but not kill
him on T.V. Although I would love to see that slimy little jerk get his
head whacked.
IMHO of course,
Jessica
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yeah... but I doubt that they will show a kid gets his head whacked on tv...
even tho that kid is not really a kid....
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Dayspring <mmn...@vms.cis.pitt.edu> wrote:
>mh...@juno.com (Vitum Eternum) wrote:
>>This may have been a topic sometime in the past, but I am interested in
>>knowing what YOU,the loving fans of Highlander think is the most gawd aweful
>>episode of our favorite show?
>>
>My vote goes to "Bad Medicine". I'm not even going to bother describing
>it... it's just that bad.
>On the other hand, call me weird (Weird!), but I actually enjoy some of
>the episodes that most people hate. I liked "Nowhere to Run". I also
>liked "Bad Day in Building A" (Die Hard in a Courthouse), which I think
>is one of those episodes almost universally considered "bad".
I still think of a lot of the first season episodes that
>bother people, because they're usually still exploring just what they
>want the character to be. I don't know why... I just like them.
>Matt
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I notice most of the posts (which I agree with) note those episodes
such as Bad Day in Building A, The Zone, and Deadly Medicine as the
worst ever.
What these all have in common are that other than Mac, no other
immortals appear in the episode.
I know of nine such episodes:
Family Tree #2
Bad Day in Building A 6
Deadly Medicine 8
The Watchers 23
The Zone 28
Revenge of the Sword 30
Bless the Child 35
Counterfeit Part 2 44
The Blitz 78
As you can see 8 of these were in the first two seasons and it's been
a whole season (22) worth of shows since The Blitz which would also
make my list.
Apparently in the first two seasons they were still finding their way,
but since have discovered that we addicts all want is new immortals,
or at least the reappearance of interesting past ones such as the
upcoming Stone of Scone with Fitz.
On that same subject, what ever happened to the episode Double
Jeopardy which was to have an immortal who supposedly was Xavier?
We're all in the same boat. Just different cabins.
Morey, Kathy M
Mac and Charlie go camping and run into an Indian woman who says that
the grandfather of her baby is trying to take him away from her because
she's "not white enough" to raise him. Mac and Charlie (surprise!)
offer to help, but it turns out that not all is as it seems..... (the
baby turns out not to be hers).
Good premise, not great ep, but not bad, either, IMHO. (And I think I
read or heard somewhere that part of the problem with this ep is that
they had a short shooting schedule and couldn't do everything exactly as
they wanted... FWIW)
Kathy
Mark Allman
In article <01bc1c12$0a0dd900$1b3c2499@michaels>,
"Jen_Shien" <Jen_...@MSN.COM> wrote:
>> This may have been a topic sometime in the past, but I am interested in
>> knowing what YOU,the loving fans of Highlander think is the most gawd
>aweful
>> episode of our favorite show?
>>
>> Please (if you can) include the name and a short description of the ep.
>And to
>> start thinks off...here's my choice:
My own personal choice for worst episode is the second (or was it
third?) season episode "The Vampire". A cheesy, stupid plot, with a rotten
guest star immie, and a really pathetic ending. Basically it was as 'formula'
as Highlander ever gets. I think it's a real sign of this show's quality to
say just how rare an episode this corny and bad is....so far, "The Vampire" is
the only episode I've ever seen that I actively disliked.
Tracy
In article <5e880k$n...@news.injersey.com>, fir...@injersey.com says...
>
>mh...@juno.com (Vitum Eternum) wrote:
>
>
>>"Nowhere to Run" -- a snotty neredowell rapes a local girl who's adopted
>>father turns out to be a Picard-esque k'immie. Fortunately, when out villian
>>comes for "justice", the snot-nosed rich boy's father is Tessa's brother
>>(ummm....I think). So our hero Duncan booby traps the house against the
>>mercanaries hired by Picard. Highlights include Duncan hurling a rotary saw
>>blade across a room and nailing a merc in the heart, The Folger's coffee guy
>>turning another hapless mercanary into a towering inferno with a home made
>>flame thrower.
ARGH that episode was so HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!! That's one thing I hate about
Duncan, he seems so convinced that immies shouldn't be judge, jury and
executioner, that he seems to ensure sometimes that justice is NOT done! It was
the same in the episode in which the Gypsy immortal's wife(also an immortal)
was raped. Even after they turned the b@stard over to the law and he got off
scot free, claiming the lady had seduced him or some BS like that, Duncan told
the husband to let it go. Blazes with that!!!! I CHEERED when the husband
turned around and put a knife in the SOB. Duncan needs to get his priorities
straight. I bet if Tessa had been raped, he wouldn't have been so concerned
with mortal *justice*, he'd have killed the b*stard without a second's
remorse.
Rogue
(who begs indulgence for ranting, but this has stuck in my craw for a LONG
time)
Strax
On Sat, 15 Feb 97 01:43:54 GMT, mh...@juno.com (Vitum Eternum) wrote:
>This may have been a topic sometime in the past, but I am interested in
>knowing what YOU,the loving fans of Highlander think is the most gawd aweful
>episode of our favorite show?
>
>Please (if you can) include the name and a short description of the ep. And to
>start thinks off...here's my choice:
>
>"Nowhere to Run" -- a snotty neredowell rapes a local girl who's adopted
>father turns out to be a Picard-esque k'immie. Fortunately, when out villian
>comes for "justice", the snot-nosed rich boy's father is Tessa's brother
>(ummm....I think). So our hero Duncan booby traps the house against the
>mercanaries hired by Picard. Highlights include Duncan hurling a rotary saw
>blade across a room and nailing a merc in the heart, The Folger's coffee guy
>turning another hapless mercanary into a towering inferno with a home made
>flame thrower.
>
>This show has a very serious theme, and tosses it aside so Adrian Paul can
>have something to show producers if he ever wants to be the next James Bond,
>perhaps a remake of the Die Hard films.
>
>Matthew
>All around nice guy
>mh...@juno.com
Worst in my book?? The Blitz, definitely....And (God, I'm going to get
flamed for this) Timeless. I never for once believed the lovey dovey stuff
with Methos and Alexa...it was _so_ contrived....Saved By The Bell had
better romance....
Oh! And how could I forget...What was the ep name of The Skinner episode?
That one was in the top three hands down....Only redeeming factor was that
gorgeous Indian bike.....
Strax (putting on his flame retardant paisley speedos....)
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In article <01bc1c33$8b852580$1203c1cf@jlapoint>, "Jerri LaPoint" <jlap...@idir.net> writes:
>answer please :) <questi...@aol.com)> wrote in article
><33073b1e...@news.minn.net>...
>> On 16 Feb 1997 02:19:29 GMT, alama...@aol.com (Alamarana8) wrote:
>> hmmm, Not sure of the episodes name, but it had to do with Amanda and
>> another guy being bonnie and clyde, while Duncan digs them up after
>> the police shoot and kill them. What really took the cake was Duncan
>> and the other guy blowing up. If any imm had 10 sticks of tnt blow
>> them up, they'd be missing more than their head. Looked like cartoon
>> show. :-) Oh well, I have to admit it was a funny episode, just hope
>> some would be highlander fan didn't pick that night to check out what
>> the shows about...
>The episode was Money No Object and it was excellent. If I'd been channel
>surfing and never seen Highlander before, I would have loved it and not
>been able to wait for the next episode. On the other hand, if End of
>Innocence or Haunted had been the 1st episode I'd seen, I'd prob'ly never
>have stopped in Highlander territory again.
Eeeeeeeeeeewwww!! There's no accounting for taste I guess.
MNO without a doubt is the worst HL ep I've seen with a very
close second being the utterly ridiculous "Dark Quickening"
two parter. "End Of Innocence" is by far one of the best eps
I've seen this or any other season. And Haunted was a good
idea, just not done right.
Tim
monky...@aol.com
>
>The ep with Sandra Barnhard (sp?) was awesome. So it wasn't our dark and
>deep Comes a Horseman or Rev 6:8, but it was light hearted and funny. HL
>doesn't always have to be serious.
Yep but it does help if it is funny when it's supposed to be
and it wasn't. The only thing that was funny was the fact
that they were trying to be funny and failing miserably.
Tim
monky...@aol.com
joyb...@aol.com
In article <5eb2pc$s...@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net>, mold...@worldnet.att.net writes:
>Dayspring <mmn...@vms.cis.pitt.edu> wrote:
>
>>On the other hand, call me weird (Weird!), but I actually enjoy some of
>>the episodes that most people hate. I liked "Nowhere to Run". I also
>>liked "Bad Day in Building A" (Die Hard in a Courthouse), which I think
>>is one of those episodes almost universally considered "bad".
>
> I still think of a lot of the first season episodes that
>>bother people, because they're usually still exploring just what they
>>want the character to be. I don't know why... I just like them.
>
>>Matt
>>--
>
>I notice most of the posts (which I agree with) note those episodes
>such as Bad Day in Building A, The Zone, and Deadly Medicine as the
>worst ever.
>What these all have in common are that other than Mac, no other
>immortals appear in the episode.
>
>I know of nine such episodes:
>
>Family Tree #2
>Bad Day in Building A 6
>Deadly Medicine 8
>The Watchers 23
>The Zone 28
>Revenge of the Sword 30
>Bless the Child 35
>Counterfeit Part 2 44
>The Blitz 78
>
You're right. I never noticed this but, except for The Watchers and Counterfeit,
these are the episodes that make most peoples "worst" list.
>As you can see 8 of these were in the first two seasons and it's been
>a whole season (22) worth of shows since The Blitz which would also
>make my list.
>Apparently in the first two seasons they were still finding their way,
>but since have discovered that we addicts all want is new immortals,
>or at least the reappearance of interesting past ones such as the
>upcoming Stone of Scone with Fitz.
Good point.
>On that same subject, what ever happened to the episode Double
>Jeopardy which was to have an immortal who supposedly was Xavier?
Double Jeopardy has been held over until the Paris episodes of this
season. It is scheduled to start airing on April 28, which means WGN
will air it May 10. So you should be able to catch it some time between
those two dates.
Joyce Brand
Joyb...@aol.com
PEACE-APFC
DFW
monky...@aol.com
joyb...@aol.com
Louise W Losos
Jen_Shien (Jen_...@MSN.COM) wrote:
: Actually that's one of my favorite episodes. A bad episode is any episode
: with a small boy who has an accent!
Ah, but then this would disqualify Prophecy that has a young Duncan
McCloud, an episode I enjoyed a great deal.
Louise
Jerri LaPoint
monky...@aol.com wrote in article
<19970219183...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
o' laughin'. Neither MNO nor DL was exactly on a par with A Funny Thing
Happened On The Way To The Forum, but they were good spirited and well
intended and fun to watch. Grab your whoopie cushion and your nose glasses
and try to enjoy things more.
Jerri
John R. Hayes
Tracy (tlan...@engineer.aeerl.epa.gov) wrote:
: In article <5e880k$n...@news.injersey.com>, fir...@injersey.com says...
: >
: >mh...@juno.com (Vitum Eternum) wrote:
: >
: >
: >>"Nowhere to Run" -- a snotty neredowell rapes a local girl who's adopted
: >>comes for "justice", the snot-nosed rich boy's father is Tessa's brother
: >>(ummm....I think). So our hero Duncan booby traps the house against the
: >>mercanaries hired by Picard. Highlights include Duncan hurling a rotary saw
: >>blade across a room and nailing a merc in the heart, The Folger's coffee guy
: >>turning another hapless mercanary into a towering inferno with a home made
: >>flame thrower.
Not the Folger's guy was it? The Tasters Choice guy, unless Folgers owns
them, or something. (Sorry, I know it's being extremely picky.)
Also sorry: I'm responding here mostly to the quoted post (which original
I missed).
(snips)
. . . . .
But I kinda liked this ep. Duncan against a militia! And the rapist was
so obnoxious, he needed to get his so bad. The ending was weak, though,
somehow. My wife said there was supposed to be a visual blooper in this
one, whereby the prop man with his fog-making machine showed on the film.
We missed seeing it, though, this time around.
Robert Schechter
Yeah, why not? I told my wife (have I ever mentioned her before?) about
this thread and read her a few posts. I thought she settled the whole
thing rather nicely. She said, "There is no worst episode of
Highlander."
Bob
Mark Nguyen
The WORST episode thus far is "The Zone". Duncan beats up a bunch of
people. Charlie gets beat up. Charlie agonizes over te fact he can't
figure Mac out. Joe comes crying to Mac asking some silly pointless
favor. All thesewere already used at that point, and made the whole
evening for me that less enjoyable.
This is the ONLY episode that gets a ZERO of four "decapitaions" on the
"decap scale". Yuck.
Mark
Paul Edmonds
Morey, Kathy M <kmm...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
> Colin L. Whipple wrote:
> >
> > I have been reading so much about Kenny that I am looking forward to
seeing
> > him when that ep comes around again.
> > > > No details, please, except, which ep, in which season, should I be
on the
> > lookout for?
> >
> >
> Kenny appeared in "The Lamb", season 3, ep 7, and again in "Reunion",
> season 4, ep 6. Enjoy
>
> Kathy
> (Be sure to let us know what you think of the little twerp...)
>
And like, don't let any perjorative terms used in these posts influence
your judgement of Kenny's character. Make your own assessment of the poor
much misunderstood lad and then make a choice.
Accept MacLeod's view of him, when Mac's talking to Joe and Richie in the
Lamb. Or accept that justifiable homicide applies, like the rest of us.
As someone else said, there's nothing wrong with Kenny that elaving him
with a 5,000 year old babysitter wouldn't solve.
Paul Edmonds
"Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes" - Who Watches The Watchers?
Svminc
Hey,
I just read your comments and I agree. One thing that annoys me about DM
is that he does put his own judgment above that of any other immortals. I
thought the b@stard deserved what he got from the gypsy.
Another episode where DM annoyed me was the one where the immortal was
protecting the descendant of the king of an arabian country. That is
where DM gets in the way of the assasination and the prince is later
murdered by the dictator (who DM later throws out the window!)
I thought DM should have just butted out!
Dayspring
"Jerri LaPoint" <jlap...@idir.net> wrote:
>monky...@aol.com wrote in article
><19970219183...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>> In article <19970217052...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
>jad...@aol.com (Jade012) writes:
>> >The ep with Sandra Barnhard (sp?) was awesome. So it wasn't our dark
>and
>> >deep Comes a Horseman or Rev 6:8, but it was light hearted and funny.
>HL
>> >doesn't always have to be serious.
>> Yep but it does help if it is funny when it's supposed to be
>> and it wasn't. The only thing that was funny was the fact
>> that they were trying to be funny and failing miserably.
>> Tim
>Tim, me darlin' child, let your laughter ring forth just for the sheer joy
>o' laughin'. Neither MNO nor DL was exactly on a par with A Funny Thing
>Happened On The Way To The Forum, but they were good spirited and well
>intended and fun to watch. Grab your whoopie cushion and your nose glasses
>and try to enjoy things more.
No no, Tim is the "Officially Licensed Highlander Grump" (formerly known
as "The Grump of Duncan MacLeod" ;) ).
Actually, having seen both eps and A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to
the Forum, I liked the former much more (don't get me wrong, I loved
AFTHONWTTF, but I happen to be one of those people who like laughing for
laughing's sake, and these eps were funny as all get out to me).
Matt, laying on the couch, typing on the laptop, with an orange cat
balanced precariously (but sleeping?) on the side of one leg
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They fought like warrior-poets... they
fought like Scotsmen... and won their
freedom...
Morey, Kathy M
Robert Schechter wrote:
>
> Jerri LaPoint wrote:
> >
> > monky...@aol.com wrote in article
> > <19970219183...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
> > > In article <19970217052...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> > jad...@aol.com (Jade012) writes:
> > > >The ep with Sandra Barnhard (sp?) was awesome. So it wasn't our dark
> > and
> > > >deep Comes a Horseman or Rev 6:8, but it was light hearted and funny.
> > HL
> > > >doesn't always have to be serious.
> > > Yep but it does help if it is funny when it's supposed to be
> > > and it wasn't. The only thing that was funny was the fact
> > > that they were trying to be funny and failing miserably.
> > > Tim
> > Tim, me darlin' child, let your laughter ring forth just for the sheer joy
> > o' laughin'. Neither MNO nor DL was exactly on a par with A Funny Thing
> > Happened On The Way To The Forum, but they were good spirited and well
> > intended and fun to watch. Grab your whoopie cushion and your nose glasses
> > and try to enjoy things more.
>
> this thread and read her a few posts. I thought she settled the whole
> thing rather nicely. She said, "There is no worst episode of
> Highlander."
>
> Bob
That's a very good point, Bob (and Eleanor). I have to admit that
although there are some that won't make my "Favorite Eps" list, I can
always find at least a couple lines or one scene that makes each ep
worth watching. Again.
Kathy
Jill and Mittsy
>On Sat, 15 Feb 97 01:43:54 GMT, mh...@juno.com (Vitum Eternum) wrote:
>
>>This may have been a topic sometime in the past, but I am interested in
>>knowing what YOU,the loving fans of Highlander think is the most gawd aweful
>>episode of our favorite show?
>>
>>Please (if you can) include the name and a short description of the ep. And to
>>start thinks off...here's my choice:
>>
>>father turns out to be a Picard-esque k'immie. Fortunately, when out villian
>>comes for "justice", the snot-nosed rich boy's father is Tessa's brother
>>(ummm....I think). So our hero Duncan booby traps the house against the
>>mercanaries hired by Picard. Highlights include Duncan hurling a rotary saw
>>blade across a room and nailing a merc in the heart, The Folger's coffee guy
>>turning another hapless mercanary into a towering inferno with a home made
>>flame thrower.
>>
>>have something to show producers if he ever wants to be the next James Bond,
>>perhaps a remake of the Die Hard films.
>>
>>Matthew
>>All around nice guy
>>mh...@juno.com
This is a tough one. Every time I think of an ep that I could
almost say I didn't like, there is always *something* there that
makes it worth watching... example: The Zone wouldn't be a
favorite of mine, except it's worth watching it to see Duncan
wiping the mat with Charlie "WhatchahidingMacLeod" DeSalvo (the
little history lesson of self defense). Another example would be
The Lamb. Yeah we all hate the little brat, but wasn't it worth
watching it to see him try and knock of Dr. Anne? To me, all the
eps are like that - so I guess I could say that there hasn't been
an episode that I *totally* hated. Yet. <g>
Jill, who feels like she has an evil streak running through her
today :D
_________________________________________
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If you need proof just look at a sheet of
flypaper...You'll never see a fly screaming
"GO AROUND!! GO AROUND!!"
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Alamarana8
Are we forgetting about 'The Zone'? Perhaps it was so extremely horrible
that you have blocked it from your minds? Lucky.
~Cassie
Jette Goldie
I got a new one for you
Dramatic License...... what a crock of kiech!
Didn't laugh once - didn't even smile. Absolutely no redeeming
features.
Liked The Blitz better than this.
Jette Goldie (Joe's my jo!!)
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Jade012
Didn't laugh at Dramatic Liscense(sp?)....?!? Boy some people just have
no sense of humor at all. I guss some of us just have a more keen sense
of humor than others. Besides there is always a redeeming quality in
EVERY episode of HL....his name is DM.
Shadoaks
Count me as another who loved "Dramatic License" even though I'm
not fond of Sandra B. DM had some very funny lines (in response to "Who's
going to where the kilt?" DM answers "Mel Gibson!" Many giggles to that.)
But I guess it was the spoof on Romance novels that I found so
funny. If you've never read a romance novel, you might not have
appreciated the satire as much. Remember the scene with Amanda and DM in
bed and she's reading from the novel; but the "hero" in sawing zzzz's?
Very funny!
I, however, did not like RofRR very much. At the risk of getting
flamed, I think IMVHO that Stan K. isn't a very good actor. The scene
where he acts drugged in the car - I think I could've played it better!
Barb <ducking and running for flame cover!>
Broughps
I'm new to NGs so have mercy. I just couldn't stay silent any longer. The
worst ep. has to be Shadows. I can't stand to warch it and have to fast
forward when I hit that spot on the tape. I wanted to whack Garrick myself
by the end.
Penni
Robert Schechter
Welcome!
It's interesting. "Shadows" is an episode that I _know_ is very
good--good acting, good FB's, good pacing, unusual story, lots of good
stuff from the regular characters. However, I just don't like it. I
think the dislike comes from two things: 1)I _really_ don't like Dr.
Anne; and 2)I'm basically more of a science fiction fan than a fantasy
fan. I'm willing to grant the fantasy basis for HL--the immortals,
TCBOO, the Rules, the good v. evil thing. But I become uncomfortable
when they start slopping over into the overtly paranormal. I don't like
the vision-projection stuff in "Shadows," and (heresy!) I think "The
Darkness" would have been an even stronger episode if they had found some
non-psychic means of gaining their information. It happens only rarely,
but I wish they stayed within the world they created without hauling in
other varieties of woo-woo thinking to do their work for them. So I kind
of half-way agree with you.
Bob
lysa...@wco.com
Broughps wrote:
>
> I'm new to NGs so have mercy. I just couldn't stay silent any longer. The
> worst ep. has to be Shadows. I can't stand to warch it and have to fast
> forward when I hit that spot on the tape. I wanted to whack Garrick myself
> by the end.
>
You know this is really interesting. I know Bob said he knows it is a
good ep, but doesn't like it. Same here. And with me it is not the
paranormal or Dr. Anne (whom of course I can't stand, but she is the
same horrible self in other eps.) Strange.
--
Alexandra
lysa...@wco.com
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'Nothing in life has any business being perfect.'
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The Debster
Robert Schechter <robert-s...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<331230...@worldnet.att.net>...
> Broughps wrote:
> >
> > I'm new to NGs so have mercy. I just couldn't stay silent any longer.
The
> > worst ep. has to be Shadows. I can't stand to warch it and have to fast
> > forward when I hit that spot on the tape. I wanted to whack Garrick
myself
> > by the end.
>
> Welcome!
> It's interesting. "Shadows" is an episode that I _know_ is very
> good--good acting, good FB's, good pacing, unusual story, lots of good
> stuff from the regular characters. However, I just don't like it. I
> think the dislike comes from two things: 1)I _really_ don't like Dr.
> Anne; and 2)I'm basically more of a science fiction fan than a fantasy
> fan. I'm willing to grant the fantasy basis for HL--the immortals,
> TCBOO, the Rules, the good v. evil thing. But I become uncomfortable
> when they start slopping over into the overtly paranormal. I don't like
> the vision-projection stuff in "Shadows," and (heresy!) I think "The
> Darkness" would have been an even stronger episode if they had found some
> non-psychic means of gaining their information. It happens only rarely,
> but I wish they stayed within the world they created without hauling in
> other varieties of woo-woo thinking to do their work for them. So I kind
> of half-way agree with you.
>
> Bob
I think the reason I don't like "Shadows", is I don't like it when DM is
vulnerable. I realize this is unreasonable, but that's how I feel.
Debbie,
The Debster Nashua, N.H.
>
HMMVSE
How about "The Blitz" for worst ep? I am one of the folks that will sit
through just about about anything to watch the HL group in action - but
this ep was pushing even my limits! =) (I agree though - "The Zone"
wasn't that great - but Charlie's whining was never to my taste anyhow)!
=)
Heather
Vicki Farmer
> Broughps wrote:
> >
> > I'm new to NGs so have mercy. I just couldn't stay silent any longer. The
> > worst ep. has to be Shadows. I can't stand to warch it and have to fast
> > forward when I hit that spot on the tape. I wanted to whack Garrick myself
> > by the end.
> >
> > Penni
>
>
> You know this is really interesting. I know Bob said he knows it is a
> good ep, but doesn't like it. Same here. And with me it is not the
> paranormal or Dr. Anne (whom of course I can't stand, but she is the
> same horrible self in other eps.) Strange.
> --
>
> Alexandra
Hmmm... And I just love "Shadows." Love it. Love the Jungian stuff.
Love the big fight between Duncan and Dr. Anne. Love the kata. Love the
horrified look our sweet DM gets on his face when he realizes he has almost
disassembled Richie (AP has such an expressive face). Love the scene where
he tells Richie to kill him if he has to. I even (kinda) love the tag
where Dr. Anne breaks up with DM, because it plays so painfully honest to
me.
I don't have a problem with the clairvoyance part. I don't like the word
"supernatural." If something exists in the universe, then it is, by
definition, natural. Just 'cause we can't explain it (yet) -- even if we
never explain it -- doesn't mean it's not a part of nature. Is there such
a thing as clairvoyance? Can't say for sure, but I tend to think that
there probably is (had a very singular experience with my mom once that
made a believer out of me).
Consider this (a little quantum physics with your lunch): when you create
a pair of particles, their wave functions are inextricably linked to each
other. When one of the particles is observed, its wave function collapses,
and so does the wave function of the other particle, *simultaneously*, in a
predictable fashion, no matter how far apart those two particles may have
traveled in the interim. There are some people (if you want the article
reference, I can email it to ya) who have created a computer security
encryption scheme using this particular phenomenon. And it works. For
real. Not fiction. (This totally blows my mind, BTW.)
How does this happen? By what mechanism is the information that one
particle has been observed transmitted to the other particle
instantaneously? Nobody knows. But it happens. And we can use it in a
practical application in the real world.
The world is a very strange and magical place, and there's a lot of stuff
that happens that we still can't explain (the more we learn the more we
realize we don't know). Most of the so-called supernatural stuff you see
reported is garbagio, but some of it probably isn't. It doesn't take a big
leap of faith for me to be able to imagine that there can be (as yet)
unexplained (rare, tenuous) connections between people's minds (there are
some *more* guys who are looking into how consciousness may be a by-product
of the collapse of the wave function of particles in brain synapses), and
if that can happen, that there may be people who are more sensitive to it
than other people, and (taking it back to Shadows) that somebody who had a
few hundred years to play around with such a talent might find a way to
control it consciously.
Now, precognition is a whole other thing. To talk about that, we have to
get into uncertainty principles, and free will, human perceptions and the
arrow of time, and the nature of time-ordering in light of the Theory of
Relativity...
But I'll spare you. <g>
Vicki F.
http://www.keytech.com/~vfarmer/
------------------------------------------------------------
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.
-- Emerson
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Robert Schechter
Vicki Farmer wrote:
>
> In article <3313EB...@wco.com>, lysa...@wco.com wrote:
>
> > Broughps wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm new to NGs so have mercy. I just couldn't stay silent any longer. The
> > > worst ep. has to be Shadows. I can't stand to warch it and have to fast
> > > forward when I hit that spot on the tape. I wanted to whack Garrick myself
> > > by the end.
> > >
> > > Penni
> >
> >
> > You know this is really interesting. I know Bob said he knows it is a
> > good ep, but doesn't like it. Same here. And with me it is not the
> > paranormal or Dr. Anne (whom of course I can't stand, but she is the
> > same horrible self in other eps.) Strange.
> > --
> >
> > Alexandra
>
> Hmmm... And I just love "Shadows." Love it. Love the Jungian stuff.
> Love the big fight between Duncan and Dr. Anne. Love the kata. Love the
> horrified look our sweet DM gets on his face when he realizes he has almost
> disassembled Richie (AP has such an expressive face). Love the scene where
> he tells Richie to kill him if he has to. I even (kinda) love the tag
> where Dr. Anne breaks up with DM, because it plays so painfully honest to
> me.
I think Jung is absolutely fascinating; I also think he's full of
whatever he's full of. By the way--I'm not crazy about "Shadows," but I
don't dislike it as much as Bob does. I'm not big on psychic stuff,
either.
> I don't have a problem with the clairvoyance part. I don't like the word
> "supernatural." If something exists in the universe, then it is, by
> definition, natural. Just 'cause we can't explain it (yet) -- even if we
> never explain it -- doesn't mean it's not a part of nature. Is there such
> a thing as clairvoyance? Can't say for sure, but I tend to think that
> there probably is (had a very singular experience with my mom once that
> made a believer out of me).
Just because we can suppose something, and just because occasionally
things happen that coincide with our suppositions, it does not
necessarily follow that it is so. Unless you can show by scientific
method, not by anecdote, that clairvoyance exists at all, it is
supernatural. Now, if you _can_ prove that it exists, there's a man with
over a million dollars waiting to hand it to you for a mutually-agreed-
upon successful experiment.
> Consider this (a little quantum physics with your lunch): when you create
> a pair of particles, their wave functions are inextricably linked to each
> other. When one of the particles is observed, its wave function collapses,
> and so does the wave function of the other particle, *simultaneously*, in a
> predictable fashion, no matter how far apart those two particles may have
> traveled in the interim. There are some people (if you want the article
> reference, I can email it to ya) who have created a computer security
> encryption scheme using this particular phenomenon. And it works. For
> real. Not fiction. (This totally blows my mind, BTW.)
(snipped rest of physics stuff)
Vicki, you are taking advantage of the undereducated. I don't do
physics. I do literature. Bob does not do physics. Bob does computers.
However, we have been endowed by nature with a lovely daughter, whose one
failing is that she does not like Highlander (although she has been
watching the tapes I send her from time to time ever since she realized
that sometimes I put checks in the boxes). And, as it happens, physics
is what that kid does. Well, she's doing grad work in astronomy. But
she is a genuine B.S.(Physics), MIT, 1996. I am forwarding your post to
her and asking her to translate for me. She's used to it. You would
have loved the time she and I and a neighbor and a large cardboard box
and my very fluffiest cat got together for an explanation of collapsing
wave functions.
I have a feeling that she's going to tell me that you cannot equate the
subatomic realm with what happens in RL, but maybe not. Anyhow, if you
get an answer to this post three weeks from now when you've forgotten all
about it, you'll know she answered me.
As to the worst episode of Highlander, I have tried to think of which one
that might be. Every time I think of one, I think of some little
something in it that I _really_ like. I can't think of a single one that
might as well just go in the trash because I'm never going to watch it
again. Can't do it.
By the way, are you and Alexandra joining the gloomy crew sitting in the
handbasket?
Eleanor
Robert Schechter
Vicki Farmer wrote:
>
> Robert Schechter wrote:
> >
> > Vicki Farmer wrote:
>
> But I still think that "supernatural" is a meaningless word. If
> something exists, whether we can prove it or not, whether we can even
> perceive it or not, if it exists in the universe, then it is "natural".
> It's part of nature.
>
> If it doesn't exist, then, it's...nothing. It doesn't exist, naturally
> or "supernaturally". I just don't like that word. But anyway...
I can live with this; I have my own set of things I don't care for (you
wouldn't want to see the remains of the salesman who tried to tell me
that a _rug_ was "ergonomically designed).
> <snipped first part of the physics stuff>
> > (snipped rest of physics stuff)
> >
> > Vicki, you are taking advantage of the undereducated. I don't do
> > physics. I do literature. Bob does not do physics. Bob does
> > computers.
> >
> > However, we have been endowed by nature with a lovely daughter, whose
> > one failing is that she does not like Highlander (although she has
> > been watching the tapes I send her from time to time ever since she
> > realized that sometimes I put checks in the boxes).
>
> You're a good mother.
>
> > And, as it
> > happens, physics is what that kid does. Well, she's doing grad work
> > in astronomy. But she is a genuine B.S.(Physics), MIT, 1996.
>
> ;-) Cool. M.S. (Physics) University of Texas at Austin, 1991.
Hey! I wanted her to go there for grad school! Great place! But she
would not leave the engineering nerd she formed adhesions with as an
undergrad and he's in Boston, so she's at B.U. now.
> I am forwarding your post to
> > her and asking her to translate for me. She's used to it. You would
> > have loved the time she and I and a neighbor and a large cardboard box
> > and my very fluffiest cat got together for an explanation of
> > collapsing wave functions.
>
> I love it. I figure the cat survived, but was there any blood lost in
> the experiment (e.g., yours?).
Well, we had to keep looking in the box, you know, because the cat was
potentially dead (in theory; in reality, she was scratching and meowing,
so there wasn't much doubt). Sweet cat.
> > I have a feeling that she's going to tell me that you cannot equate
> > the subatomic realm with what happens in RL, but maybe not. Anyhow,
> > if you get an answer to this post three weeks from now when you've
> > forgotten all about it, you'll know she answered me.
>
> :-) Nifty. I love this stuff. I may hafta go dig out my Penrose
> articles!
To quote someone-or-other, you can forget it! She has answered me
already; her answer is that I am too stupid to understand the wonders of
the arcana that you and she might be able to partake of. Oh, she was
polite, but that's what it boiled down to. I will forward her email to
you privately; if you two want to commune with the elemental forces, hop
to it.
> > As to the worst episode of Highlander, I have tried to think of which
> > one that might be. Every time I think of one, I think of some little
> > something in it that I _really_ like. I can't think of a single one
> > that might as well just go in the trash because I'm never going to
> > watch it again. Can't do it.
>
> Agreed, there's usually at least *something*. I mean, even in "The
> Zone", there was that tag where Charlie comes in and does his
> whaddyahidinmacleod act, and DM is ***so*** beautiful sitting there on
> those stairs, drinking his tea. I love what that man does for a
> t-shirt. I think it's safe to say that any episode where DM is wearing
> a t-shirt has at least something going for it.
<sigh> uh-huh. I think I like the cotton t-shirts best, but then, those
silk ones are very nice. (I shall repeat to myself fifty times: I am old
enough to be that man's mother. I shall calm down.) He looks really
good in white of either variety. (On the other hand, I am not old enough
to be his mother by much, and I am not dead yet, not that that would make
any difference.)
> > By the way, are you and Alexandra joining the gloomy crew sitting in
> > the handbasket?
> >
> > Eleanor
>
> Yeah. There's getting to be quite a crowd of us. We probably ought to
> call out for pizza.
This has gone past the pizza stage. Some pain can be assuaged only by
chocolate.
eleanor
Vicki Farmer
Robert Schechter wrote:
>
> Vicki Farmer wrote:
> >
> > - even if we never explain it -- doesn't mean it's not a part of
> > nature. Is there such a thing as clairvoyance? Can't say for sure,
> > but I tend to think that there probably is (had a very singular
> > experience with my mom once that made a believer out of me).
>
> Just because we can suppose something, and just because occasionally
> things happen that coincide with our suppositions, it does not
> necessarily follow that it is so. Unless you can show by scientific
> method, not by anecdote, that clairvoyance exists at all, it is
> supernatural. Now, if you _can_ prove that it exists, there's a man
> with over a million dollars waiting to hand it to you for a
> mutually-agreed-upon successful experiment.
<g> Yo, Paulie, I'm about to pick a nit -- do I get any points?
Agreed that there is no scientific proof either way on the clairvoyance
thing. Someday there may be, or maybe not -- either because it doesn't
exist, or because it's just not something that we can prove with the 5
senses we've got to work with.
But I still think that "supernatural" is a meaningless word. If
something exists, whether we can prove it or not, whether we can even
perceive it or not, if it exists in the universe, then it is "natural".
It's part of nature.
If it doesn't exist, then, it's...nothing. It doesn't exist, naturally
or "supernaturally". I just don't like that word. But anyway...
<snipped first part of the physics stuff>
> (snipped rest of physics stuff)
>
> Vicki, you are taking advantage of the undereducated. I don't do
> physics. I do literature. Bob does not do physics. Bob does
> computers.
>
> However, we have been endowed by nature with a lovely daughter, whose
> one failing is that she does not like Highlander (although she has
> been watching the tapes I send her from time to time ever since she
> realized that sometimes I put checks in the boxes).
You're a good mother.
> And, as it
> happens, physics is what that kid does. Well, she's doing grad work
> in astronomy. But she is a genuine B.S.(Physics), MIT, 1996.
;-) Cool. M.S. (Physics) University of Texas at Austin, 1991.
> I am forwarding your post to
> her and asking her to translate for me. She's used to it. You would
> have loved the time she and I and a neighbor and a large cardboard box
> and my very fluffiest cat got together for an explanation of
> collapsing wave functions.
I love it. I figure the cat survived, but was there any blood lost in
the experiment (e.g., yours?).
> I have a feeling that she's going to tell me that you cannot equate
> the subatomic realm with what happens in RL, but maybe not. Anyhow,
> if you get an answer to this post three weeks from now when you've
> forgotten all about it, you'll know she answered me.
:-) Nifty. I love this stuff. I may hafta go dig out my Penrose
articles!
> As to the worst episode of Highlander, I have tried to think of which
> one that might be. Every time I think of one, I think of some little
> something in it that I _really_ like. I can't think of a single one
> that might as well just go in the trash because I'm never going to
> watch it again. Can't do it.
Agreed, there's usually at least *something*. I mean, even in "The
Zone", there was that tag where Charlie comes in and does his
whaddyahidinmacleod act, and DM is ***so*** beautiful sitting there on
those stairs, drinking his tea. I love what that man does for a
t-shirt. I think it's safe to say that any episode where DM is wearing
a t-shirt has at least something going for it.
> By the way, are you and Alexandra joining the gloomy crew sitting in
> the handbasket?
>
> Eleanor
Yeah. There's getting to be quite a crowd of us. We probably ought to
call out for pizza.
--
Vicki F.
http://www.keytech.com/~vfarmer/
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Morey, Kathy M
Snipped discussions of physics, motherhood, luscious t-shirted men, and
the unimportance of age when drooling....
Eleanor asked:
> > > By the way, are you and Alexandra joining the gloomy crew sitting in
> > > the handbasket?
Vicki answered...
> > Yeah. There's getting to be quite a crowd of us. We probably ought to
> > call out for pizza.
Then Eleanor opined...
> This has gone past the pizza stage. Some pain can be assuaged only by
> chocolate.
Hey guys, if I promise not to mention liking short hair, and if I bring
brownies and Hershey's Kisses and fudge-covered cookies, can I join you
in the handbasket and commiserate about the lack of word on Season 6?
We can talk some more about t-shirts and silk shirts and net shirts (and
no shirts, and leashes)... in white and black and that really pretty
blue...
You guys are the best droolers.... (I want to take lessons.)
Kathy
(Has anyone noticed this? -> It seems to me that the Methos droolers are
more direct and tend to be more graphic (no complaints, mind you, just
an observation!) while the Duncan droolers tend to more "poetic", if
that's the right word... Or am I just imagining it?)
Morey, Kathy M
The Debster wrote:
>
> Robert Schechter <robert-s...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
> <331230...@worldnet.att.net>...
> > >
> > > I'm new to NGs so have mercy. I just couldn't stay silent any longer.
> The
> > > worst ep. has to be Shadows. I can't stand to warch it and have to fast
> > > forward when I hit that spot on the tape. I wanted to whack Garrick
> myself
> > > by the end.
> >
> > It's interesting. "Shadows" is an episode that I _know_ is very
> > good--good acting, good FB's, good pacing, unusual story, lots of good
> > stuff from the regular characters. However, I just don't like it. I
> > think the dislike comes from two things: 1)I _really_ don't like Dr.
> > Anne; and 2)I'm basically more of a science fiction fan than a fantasy
> > fan. I'm willing to grant the fantasy basis for HL--the immortals,
> > TCBOO, the Rules, the good v. evil thing. But I become uncomfortable
> > the vision-projection stuff in "Shadows," and (heresy!) I think "The
> > Darkness" would have been an even stronger episode if they had found some
>
> > non-psychic means of gaining their information. It happens only rarely,
> > but I wish they stayed within the world they created without hauling in
> > other varieties of woo-woo thinking to do their work for them. So I kind
>
> > of half-way agree with you.
> >
> > Bob
>
> I think the reason I don't like "Shadows", is I don't like it when DM is
> vulnerable. I realize this is unreasonable, but that's how I feel.
>
> Debbie,
> The Debster Nashua, N.H.
> >
I understand, Debbie, 'cause DM is such a strong, protective figure.
But I loved "Shadows". I liked the idea of projecting visions. (Bob,
think of it as ESP (which is a more "science fictional" concept) and see
if that helps.) Part of the reason I liked this ep, too, was that they
did such a good job of making Mr. Together DM look like a total wreck...
it was such a change. And I loved the scene where DM tells RR to "do
what you have to do to survive."
RR: "I can't! I can't kill you!!"
DM: "You better. 'Cause you may not get a second chance."
Don't think that would happen again, do you?
Anyway, Shadows is on my list of "Must See HL"
Kathy
(And when DM is such a mess, it makes you just want to cuddle him and
say, "There, there...")
Paul Bishop
Vicki Farmer wrote:
> <g> Yo, Paulie, I'm about to pick a nit -- do I get any points?
I think it's time we established a formal rating system for nit picking
here. I propose we go on (1) importance of the subject under discussion
(the more trivial, the more points), (2) degree of difficulty, (3) degree
of iritation, and (4) distance from topic. We'll use a standard 1-10
grading system, 10 being best. So far, I'd say you're scoring pretty well
in categories 2-4. <g>
> Agreed that there is no scientific proof either way on the clairvoyance
> thing. Someday there may be, or maybe not -- either because it doesn't
> exist, or because it's just not something that we can prove with the 5
> senses we've got to work with.
>
> But I still think that "supernatural" is a meaningless word. If
> something exists, whether we can prove it or not, whether we can even
> perceive it or not, if it exists in the universe, then it is "natural".
> It's part of nature.
>
> If it doesn't exist, then, it's...nothing. It doesn't exist, naturally
> or "supernaturally". I just don't like that word. But anyway...
>
> <snipped first part of the physics stuff>
Damn, damn, damn. Somebody snipped the physics stuff. Now I'm gonna have
to go all the way to Deja News and look it up. Most inconsiderate.
_*Never*_ snip the phyics stuff! <g>
Actually, I kind of like the word "supernatural," and I think it's fairly
descriptive. By "universe," do you mean the electrical simulation that we
inhabit? Do you mean our time domain? Do you mean the dimensions in which
we exist? Are you excluding the possibility that there may be things
outside all of these? Didn't think so... ;<)
May I suggest that you folks just have a semantic problem. Vicki, it
seems to me that you don't like the term "supernatural" applied to things
that are merely the product of existing but possibly unknown "natural"
forces. I can understand that. But I still hold to the possibility that
there may be a "reality" more real than the one we inhabit. If so, then
"supernatural" is as good a word as any, no? (Oh God! I've been reading
Plato again... Somebody stop me!)
Oh, and everyone knows that OMTM was the worst episode ever. <g>
PKB (Or did I miss the point entirely? [Again...])
lysa...@wco.com
How is this for paranormal? I can only post test messages. When I
actually want to say something it is a NNTC error. Boy!
Morey, Kathy M
Strax wrote:
>
> On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:25:41 -0500, "Morey, Kathy M"
> <kmm...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >(Has anyone noticed this? -> It seems to me that the Methos droolers are
> >more direct and tend to be more graphic (no complaints, mind you, just
> >an observation!) while the Duncan droolers tend to more "poetic", if
> >that's the right word... Or am I just imagining it?)
>
> Or, do you have something against Richie? Huh? Well, do you?? :-)
>
> Strax ( That's my two Richie drools for the day..have to start small)
> Keeper of the Green Jacket Flame
Nope, nothing against the Richster. It's just that I absolutely
*cannot* think of him and drooling at the same time - he's cute and has
been getting progressively more studly, but he also reminds me of my
little brother (in personality) and it just feels too *weird* to look at
him as a drool object. But I'll always be a big fan of his...
Kathy
(Now, if I could just get him to introduce me to Duncan...)
Dawn
Morey, Kathy M wrote:
>
> > >(Has anyone noticed this? -> It seems to me that the Methos droolers are
> > >more direct and tend to be more graphic (no complaints, mind you, just
> > >an observation!) while the Duncan droolers tend to more "poetic", if
> > >that's the right word... Or am I just imagining it?)
Huh? Whatya mean less poetic..? C'mon, didn't you read my "I'm too sexy"
Methos poem/song?
It rhymed... what more do you need?
<eg>
Okay.. this should satisfy your literary hunger:
Methos: How Do I Love Thee... Let me count the ways...
Oh, forget it! This is a PG ng!
<very evil grin>
--
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Strax
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:25:41 -0500, "Morey, Kathy M"
>(Has anyone noticed this? -> It seems to me that the Methos droolers are
>more direct and tend to be more graphic (no complaints, mind you, just
>an observation!) while the Duncan droolers tend to more "poetic", if
>that's the right word... Or am I just imagining it?)
Yes, and us Richie droolers are more enthusiastic and defensive, right???
Or, do you have something against Richie? Huh? Well, do you?? :-)
Strax ( That's my two Richie drools for the day..have to start small)
Keeper of the Green Jacket Flame
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Vicki Farmer
Eleanor wrote in response to moi:
> I can live with this; I have my own set of things I don't care for (you
> wouldn't want to see the remains of the salesman who tried to tell me
> that a _rug_ was "ergonomically designed).
LOL!
> > ;-) Cool. M.S. (Physics) University of Texas at Austin, 1991.
>
> Hey! I wanted her to go there for grad school! Great place! But she
> would not leave the engineering nerd she formed adhesions with as an
> undergrad and he's in Boston, so she's at B.U. now.
Boston vs. Austin, huh? I loved Austin a lot. Only been to Boston once,
and the most vivid impression I took away with me was, "Boy, am I glad I
don't have to drive there!" <g>
> > I love what that man does for a
> > t-shirt. I think it's safe to say that any episode where DM is wearing
> > a t-shirt has at least something going for it.
>
> <sigh> uh-huh. I think I like the cotton t-shirts best, but then, those
> silk ones are very nice. (I shall repeat to myself fifty times: I am old
> enough to be that man's mother. I shall calm down.) He looks really
> good in white of either variety. (On the other hand, I am not old enough
> to be his mother by much, and I am not dead yet, not that that would make
> any difference.)
Did you notice that he was wearing t-shirts all the way through "The
Valkyrie"? Yet another reason to like that ep. I also very much liked the
way he was so...physically solicitous of Ingrid, especially in the
flashbacks. He was just always right *there*, up close, making these
little contacts, little touches. Oh. Heaven.
Vicki F.
http://www.keytech.com/~vfarmer/
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Vitum Eternum
Sure sure, Vicki...what about the evil demons that cause headaches, and the
spirits of colds and the flu?
neener neener :P
Vicki Farmer
In article <3314F0...@mail.e-znet.com>, Paul Bishop
<uti...@mail.e-znet.com> wrote:
> Vicki Farmer wrote:
>
> > <g> Yo, Paulie, I'm about to pick a nit -- do I get any points?
>
> I think it's time we established a formal rating system for nit picking
> here. I propose we go on (1) importance of the subject under discussion
> (the more trivial, the more points), (2) degree of difficulty, (3) degree
> of iritation, and (4) distance from topic. We'll use a standard 1-10
> grading system, 10 being best. So far, I'd say you're scoring pretty well
> in categories 2-4. <g>
Aw, I bet you say that to all the nit-pickers. Hey, if something's worth
doing, then it's worth doing well. <g>
> Actually, I kind of like the word "supernatural," and I think it's fairly
> descriptive. By "universe," do you mean the electrical simulation that we
> inhabit? Do you mean our time domain? Do you mean the dimensions in which
> we exist? Are you excluding the possibility that there may be things
> outside all of these? Didn't think so... ;<)
Yes, you're right, if we're going to settle this issue (although I think
I've forgotten what the issue was), we can't ignore the question of what
exactly do we mean by "existence" and "universe" -- and my own personal
favorite, what do we mean when we say that we "know" something? Anytime I
start having a discussion of science it always eventually comes back to
that one. Are there more ways than one that we can "know" something? Can
we actually "know" anything? Einstein once compared physicists to a man
who's been handed a watch that he can't open. You can observe the watch;
you can perform experiments with the watch; you can theorize about what
makes the watch behave the way that it does, make predictions based on
those theories, and then test the predictions, but all that will tell you
is whether or not your theories are useful, *not* whether the theories in
any way resemble what's actually going on inside the watch. The question
of what's going on inside the watch has no answer, at least none that the
physicist can provide. Ultimately, we're all phenomenolgists. We only
describe what we observe in nature. We can't really say what these things
that we observe *are* (e.g., what *is* a force? Not what does it do, not
how do we define it, but what *is* it? Or does it have any existence at
all outside our use of it in our theories?). It's important not to mistake
the map for the territory.
Your turn. ;-)
> May I suggest that you folks just have a semantic problem. Vicki, it
> seems to me that you don't like the term "supernatural" applied to things
> that are merely the product of existing but possibly unknown "natural"
> forces. I can understand that. But I still hold to the possibility that
> there may be a "reality" more real than the one we inhabit. If so, then
> "supernatural" is as good a word as any, no?
I can live with that.
> (Oh God! I've been reading
> Plato again... Somebody stop me!)
I *thought* I recognized those shadows on that cave wall.
> Oh, and everyone knows that OMTM was the worst episode ever. <g>
Oh, did you think so? Yeah, I think I remember you saying something to that
effect... ;-)
> PKB (Or did I miss the point entirely? [Again...])
<blink blink> Point? <wide-eyed, mystified gaze> This post has now come
full circle. I think you get an 8.
Robert Schechter
Vicki Farmer wrote:
>
> Eleanor wrote in response to moi:
>
> and the most vivid impression I took away with me was, "Boy, am I glad I
> don't have to drive there!" <g>
Absolutely. Bob drives in NYC--he'll cut off a cab driver; but he's very
unhappy when he has to drive in Boston. But there are some _great_
places for seafood!
> > > I love what that man does for a
> > > t-shirt. I think it's safe to say that any episode where DM is wearing
> > > a t-shirt has at least something going for it.
> >
> > <sigh> uh-huh. I think I like the cotton t-shirts best, but then, those
> > silk ones are very nice. (I shall repeat to myself fifty times: I am old
> > enough to be that man's mother. I shall calm down.) He looks really
> > good in white of either variety. (On the other hand, I am not old enough
> > to be his mother by much, and I am not dead yet, not that that would make
> > any difference.)
>
> Did you notice that he was wearing t-shirts all the way through "The
> Valkyrie"? Yet another reason to like that ep. I also very much liked the
> way he was so...physically solicitous of Ingrid, especially in the
> flashbacks. He was just always right *there*, up close, making these
> little contacts, little touches. Oh. Heaven.
Did I notice? Is the bear Catholic? (? Right?) Absolutely wonderful
t-shirts. Yes. And he is a physical sort of character. But you know
what I've noticed that's interesting and a nice little consistent bit of
acting? Duncan touches people rather freely, so long as they are not his
enemies; but he does not particularly like to _be_ touched except by
those with whom he is on intimate (not necessarily sexual-intimate)
terms. It's Alpha Male behavior, but nicely understated.
Eleanor
Vicki Farmer
Kid, unless you're prepared to have a nice, long talk with me on the
proceedings of last year's Tucson conference on the science of
consciousness, and David Chalmers' new (well, okay, sorta new, I only
just got around to reading it...) book, "The Conscious Mind: In Search
of a Fundamental Theory", yer in over yer head.
If you're not sure, try looking here:
http://www.eu.arizona.edu/~uaextend/conferen/consc.html
So there. :-P
grumblegrumble...thinks I'm kidding...whippersnappers think they can get
the best of me...where's that luggage compartment when ya need it...
Vicki F.
http://www.keytech.com/~vfarmer/
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> Morey, Kathy M wrote:
> >
> > > >(Has anyone noticed this? -> It seems to me that the Methos droolers are
> > > >more direct and tend to be more graphic (no complaints, mind you, just
> > > >an observation!) while the Duncan droolers tend to more "poetic", if
> > > >that's the right word... Or am I just imagining it?)
Hrmph. Graphic?!?!? As the poster-child for self-restraint,
methinks I should resent that <g>. And who sayz I ain't poetic?
Do you actually think I give a darn about TOES? Don't you
ken allegory when ya see it? Good lordy, if I told you what
my favorite body parts were I'd be arrested....
(And wasn't it the poetic Duncan fans who went on and on about,
um, BUTTS? If that ain't graphic I'm Mother Theresa.... ;-)
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Someone mentioned Nutella. There's getting to be a lot of people in this basket. Can I join in if I bring another jar of Nutella?
Jessi
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>
>> Morey, Kathy M wrote:
>> >
>> > > >(Has anyone noticed this? -> It seems to me that the Methos droolers
>are
>> > > >more direct and tend to be more graphic (no complaints, mind you, just
>> > > >an observation!) while the Duncan droolers tend to more "poetic", if
>> > > >that's the right word... Or am I just imagining it?)
>
>Hrmph. Graphic?!?!? As the poster-child for self-restraint,
>methinks I should resent that <g>. And who sayz I ain't poetic?
>Do you actually think I give a darn about TOES? Don't you
>ken allegory when ya see it? Good lordy, if I told you what
>my favorite body parts were I'd be arrested....
>
>(And wasn't it the poetic Duncan fans who went on and on about,
>um, BUTTS? If that ain't graphic I'm Mother Theresa.... ;-)
>
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>Is the bear Catholic? (? Right?)
Is the Pope blue? Does a sky live in the woods?
Nora Jones
:::peeking into the basket cautiously:::
Hi. I just know this is the place for me though I don't come to play here
very often, I mostly lurk. May I join y'all if I pass around these
heart-shaped Dove chocolate truffles... and share my web page (see sig)
that has many pictures of the now lost luscious locks?
Who was it mentioned those cute little (also luscious) curly locks behind
the ears and down to the (now no more) PT? I grieve for those as much as
the PT, but maybe not quite as much as for the PT when it was not a PT,
when it was loose and flowing around that exquisite face, neck, and
shoulders... :::sniffle::: :::sob:::
:::settling in a comfortable corner of the basket:::
We're going *where* ???
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You'll be safe when you visit, it's Holy Ground: \_____/ in "Courage"
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monky...@aol.com
>> Morey, Kathy M wrote:
>> >
>> > > >(Has anyone noticed this? -> It seems to me that the Methos droolers
>are
>> > > >more direct and tend to be more graphic (no complaints, mind you, just
>> > > >an observation!) while the Duncan droolers tend to more "poetic", if
>> > > >that's the right word... Or am I just imagining it?)
>
>Hrmph. Graphic?!?!? As the poster-child for self-restraint,
>methinks I should resent that <g>. And who sayz I ain't poetic?
>Do you actually think I give a darn about TOES? Don't you
>ken allegory when ya see it? Good lordy, if I told you what
>my favorite body parts were I'd be arrested....
>
>(And wasn't it the poetic Duncan fans who went on and on about,
>um, BUTTS? If that ain't graphic I'm Mother Theresa.... ;-)
No it was probably me ;) BETTER, BATTER, BUTTER, BUTTSSSS!!
Tim
Jerri LaPoint
Nora Jones <naj...@ilstu.edu> wrote in article
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> http://www2.ilstu.edu/~najones/duncan/duncan.html
--------------------------
I'm having second thoughts about joining ya'll in the basket after seeing
Nora's website. AP really doesn't seem to have a clue about how much all
that hair added to his appeal. And yes, Nora, AP seems to smile a LOT more
than DM. Kudos on the website, Nora.
Jerri
Paul Andrew Knox (HELLO!!!!!!)
This damn computer tells me that <3319e605...@news.iamerica.net>,
Strax <st...@iamerica.net> wrote the following............
>On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:25:41 -0500, "Morey, Kathy M"
>
>
>>(Has anyone noticed this? -> It seems to me that the Methos droolers are
>>more direct and tend to be more graphic (no complaints, mind you, just
>>an observation!) while the Duncan droolers tend to more "poetic", if
>>that's the right word... Or am I just imagining it?)
>
>Or, do you have something against Richie? Huh? Well, do you?? :-)
>
>
>Strax ( That's my two Richie drools for the day..have to start small)
are more....unique! We're special <g>
Paul (whoops, almost forgot the drool..................)
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SKNKODIAK
I just saw the worst episode (at least in my opinion). "The Ransom of
Richard Redstone". I'm the ultimate Richie fan and I still hate this
episode. What is the point of it, anyway?
RRandisi
I am also new to posting these things, but I just couldn't keep my mouth
shut on this one. Call me a purist, but I don't like ANY of the episodes
that were trying to be funny. Most of the time, DM is this super-cool
warrior and then he turns into Wylie Coyote all of a sudden! Granted,
Wylie is a super-genius, but he's the one that should be getting blown up
with sticks of dynamite, not Duncan!
Its great when there's funny parts in an ep., but I just don't like it
when the D-Man is made to look like an idiot.
Also, I don't remember the name of the episode, but the one with the
retarded immortal stands out as the only one I refuse to watch again. It
just seemed like RR was keeping that guy as a pet or something. I won't
even go into the ending (see Wylie Coyote -- Moose calls, anyone?)
Kinda surprised me to see how many hated Shadows. I LOVED that one! Yeah,
DM was getting put through the ringer, but we all like to see the hero
lose a round or two. (Empire Strikes Back, Independance Day). It made
Duncan's victory that much sweeter.
Guess that's it for now.
jdde...@aol.com
I tried this before, but it never made it.
Can I come if I bring another jar of Nutella? One jar won't last very long with all these people. Especially when we're all upset over the Loss of the Locks. Please?
Jessi
Bye-bye post!
Have fun getting to the newsgroup!
Think it'll work?
It'd take a miracle.
BYE!
Ladyhawke
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Lady Thrish
come? Or maybe a bigger basket? Looks like the basket is getting crouded
?
Lady Trish
Ann Harste
I just saw "The Zone" on tape. I kept waiting for someone to break into a chorus of
"Beat It"
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: but ultimately, I am going to say "The Zone" and "Haunted" have
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Abby Archambault
>I tried this before, but it never made it.
>Can I come if I bring another jar of Nutella? One jar won't last very
long with all these people. Especially when we're all upset over the Loss
of the Locks. Please?
>Jessi
>Bye-bye post!
>Have fun getting to the newsgroup!
>Think it'll work?
>It'd take a miracle.
Welcome, Jessi...please feel free to join the handbasket group...yes
bring your jar of Nutella and maybe some more chocolates...we're running
a little low...oooh, and don't forget your fantasies!
Abby (trying to *re-earn* her angel wings!)
Live well Laugh often Love much
"Always be kind and courteous" - Eric Charming
Abigail...@prodigy.com
Robert Schechter
Abby Archambault wrote:
>
> Abby (trying to *re-earn* her angel wings!)
Wings are, I'm afraid, gone for good. Maybe in RL you have them fooled,
but here your true nature has been revealed, and angelic is not what it
is. (Tied to the bed naked! Chocolate syrup! Attentiveness to same!--
An angel seeks not these things!)
Eleanor
Jerri LaPoint
monky...@aol.com wrote in article
<19970305232...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> Show me something funny in MNO and I'll laff. The only thing
> I saw that was funny was that they were trying desperately to
> be funny and failing miserably.
> Tim
Methinks Tim doth protest too much and has, by this time, developed a
fondness for MNO and its ilk beyond his ability to express.
Reminds me of that old tv show Make Me Laugh where all these comedians had
to try to poke a giggle out of people who'd win money if they stayed
sober-faced.
I think MNO comes under the category of screwball comedy, which we devotees
of old Cary Grant movies find absolutely charming, entertaining and
delightful.
But thanks for watching.
Jerri
monky...@aol.com
In article <19970305215...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, holt...@aol.com writes:
>
>In article <19970303000...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, rran...@aol.com
>(RRandisi) writes:
>>
>>I am also new to posting these things, but I just couldn't keep my mouth
>>shut on this one. Call me a purist, but I don't like ANY of the episodes
>>that were trying to be funny. Most of the time, DM is this super-cool
>>warrior and then he turns into Wylie Coyote all of a sudden! Granted,
>>Wylie is a super-genius, but he's the one that should be getting blown up
>>with sticks of dynamite, not Duncan!
>>Its great when there's funny parts in an ep., but I just don't like it
>>when the D-Man is made to look like an idiot.
>>
>The D-man made to look like an idiot? I believe ANYTHING is possible, but
>NOT THAT!
>
>Hey, can we start a handbasket for these poor humorless souls? The other
>handbasket can send them poems and graphic literature on how to lighten up;
>don't forget the feathers for tickling their toes [something has to bring a
>smile to
>their faces]--they are just too serious. :)
Abby Archambault
Lady Thrish <kcha...@idt.net> wrote:
>jdde...@aol.com wrote:
>> I tried this before, but it never made it.
>> Can I come if I bring another jar of Nutella? One jar won't last very
long with all these people. Especially when we're all upset over the Loss
of the Locks. Please?
>> Jessi
>> Bye-bye post!
>> Have fun getting to the newsgroup!
>> Think it'll work?
>> It'd take a miracle.
>> BYE!
>I would like to come . If I bring a few 6 packs of scotish ale can I
>come? Or maybe a bigger basket? Looks like the basket is getting
crouded
>?
>Lady Trish
Welcome to the basket! If you don't know all the lovely ladies in the
handbasket, please introduce yourself. You should also bring more
chocolate and some bubblebath soap...ooh...and some *massage* oil,
one of our newer handbasket mourners is good with her hands! <bg>
Abby (who *is* getting her angel wings back) <g>
banz...@aol.com
Hey, Tim,
Aint it great how we don't like one episode (well, don't think either of us liked
DL much either, did we) and all of a sudden we have NO sense of humor?
I think the drones who consider everything HL has ever done to be the pinnacle
of modern entertainment are the ones who need to lighten up, meself.
But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
They can do all the humor they want, I just wish they'd actually work at it and
make it funny while staying within the 'rules' the show has established than
being lazy and throwing in cheap gags just for the heck of it.
Next thing you know, just as Duncan's about to deliver a killing whack, the
bad guy is going to hit him in the face with a banana cream pie.
Funny? Maybe. Belong in the show? No.
Chris
(preparing for Velia's impassioned defense of the writers...<g>)
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monky...@aol.com
You know Chris, you brought up two very good points that have
been bouncing around in my head for awhile now. I absolutely
hated MNO with a passion. It's the only HL ep that I've
ever felt uncomfortable watching because it was so bad and
so forced. I'm no fan of DL either but it was watchable, not
really funny but watchable. I take great offense that anyone
could possibly think I'm too serious and have no sense of humour.
Anyone that knows me could tell you that I'm anything but serious.
In fact I have to force myself not to crack wise a great deal of
the time to keep from getting in trouble. I have one of the most
highly developed senses of humour around. I literally can find
humour in any situation. If not for humour I would have ended
my life a few times. I developed my quick wit as a defense
mechanism against bullies who would always pick on me
because I was small, very unathletic, quiet, and yes a little weird.
There was no one that was good enuff to win a cut down contest
with me so they began to leave me alone and give me some
space rather than be humiliated by the weird little runt. I grew
up watching lots of TV, Warner Bros cartoons (including Chuck
Jones' Roadrunner cartoons, which MNO pitifully tried to imitate),
English comedies on PBS including the amazing Monty Python,
The Three Stoges, Laurel and Hardy, The Marx Bros., and
tons of stand up comedians and sketch shows. A sense of
humour is the very essence of my personality. Well enuff on
that subject, on to the other point you made. I agree that
there are lots of HL:The Series fans that think they can do
no wrong on the show. Newsflash: They have, they do,
they are, and they will continue to do some downright crap.
This show is not perfect, it's actors are not the best thing
since sliced bread, and yes it can be just as bad and just
as formulatic and soap operish as anything network TV churns
out season to season. And to sum up my rather long and
probably out of place rant, I agree with Chris that if they
continue to do humour episodes it should be within the
context of the show. The comedy should not be the focus of
a Highlander ep. The comedy should come naturally from
the situations and not be forced. By all means do a light
hearted ep every once in awhile but don't try to force stupid
gags down my throat. It tends to make me puke them back
up in your face. This is of course all just my opinion but I
thought it was time I ranted for awhile. Haven't done it in
awhile ;)
Tim "long winded and paragraph impaired"
HMMVSE
rran...@aol.com wrote:
<snip>
> Most of the time, DM is this super-cool warrior and then he turns into
Wylie > Coyote all of a sudden!
LOL! When I read this I thought I was gonna' wet myself! Just the
picture it brought to my mind! Kinda' like when that one cartoon
character (bear with me here) is doing the Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde thing!
One minute the character (Taz I think) is normal and the next thing you
know he's shaking and drooling and running around making all these crazy
faces (kinda' like we NG women after seeing Dunkie in a loin cloth)!
Great comparison - but I like the comedies...
Heather
Velia Tanner and Friends
In article <19970306060...@ladder01.news.aol.com> banz...@aol.com writes:
>Chris
>(preparing for Velia's impassioned defense of the writers...<g>)
Nah.
There are plenty of people around here who liked or even loved MNO.
So my usual "hey, it's just your opinion that it sucks" post is pretty
redundant.
I've never been interested in trying to convince people to like something
they didn't like -- just in reminding them that the fact they didn't like it
doesn't make it "bad" in an objective sense, or make the creators stupid or
lazy. I don't think that one needs stating in this case.
In fact, since you and Tim are the embattled minority here, I'm *more*
likely to defend _you_ from being called "humorless" just because you don't
share the same sense of humor as the writers/cast/editors and those who
enjoyed MNO.
Shake on it?
:::readying palm buzzer::::
V.
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The Debster
Robert Schechter <robert-s...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<331618...@worldnet.att.net>...
: Vicki Farmer wrote:
: >
: > Eleanor wrote in response to moi:
: >
: > Boston vs. Austin, huh? I loved Austin a lot. Only been to Boston
once,
: > and the most vivid impression I took away with me was, "Boy, am I glad
I
: > don't have to drive there!" <g>
:
: Absolutely. Bob drives in NYC--he'll cut off a cab driver; but he's very
: unhappy when he has to drive in Boston. But there are some _great_
: places for seafood!
Well, I have to say something about this living in the area. No-one like
to drive in Boston. But you're right, we have some great seafood!
:
: > > > I love what that man does for a
: > > > t-shirt. I think it's safe to say that any episode where DM is
wearing
: > > > a t-shirt has at least something going for it.
: > >
: > snip
: > Did you notice that he was wearing t-shirts all the way through "The
: > Valkyrie"? Yet another reason to like that ep. I also very much liked
the
: > way he was so...physically solicitous of Ingrid, especially in the
: > flashbacks. He was just always right *there*, up close, making these
: > little contacts, little touches. Oh. Heaven.
:
: I happen to like DM in just about anything he is wearing. Of course,
less is better.
Debbie,
The Debster Nashua, N.H.
The Debster
Jerri LaPoint <jlap...@idir.net> wrote in article
<01bc25e0$1293a820$4703c1cf@jlapoint>...
: Nora Jones <naj...@ilstu.edu> wrote in article
Yes, indeed. Great pictures! Thanks
Debbie,
The Debster, Nashua, N.H.
Jerri LaPoint
HedDoc <met...@pixi.com> wrote in article <331F3F...@pixi.com>...
> >
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
>
snip
> A second point about MNO is this: DM, he of such honor, integrity,
> unbending moral code, etc, etc, would NEVER: (1) be an accomplice
> in a crime spree over 4 or 5 states--even IF all the stolen bank
> money was given to the poor and (2) with his high value on LIFE,
> mortal/Immortal/whatever he would NEVER deliberately "blow up"
> another person as a "payback." The writer violated the code that
> we know Duncan lives by.
more snip
Do you actually WATCH this show? Duncan's moral code has been spindled,
folded, and mutilated so many times, it's not even ... I was going to say
<funny>, but it really is quite funny. His escapades with Fitz thru the
years are certainly not the work of that dry moral bone you seem to regard
as Duncan MacLeod. Nor would such a staid puritan soul put up for one
moment with Amanda's larcenous ways. Who stole that bag of diamonds for the
Countess in Warmonger? As for sexual morals, he leaves every Lothario in
history pretty much in the dirt...he don't turn down much nookie. And for a
man who puts such a high value on LIFE, be it mortal, immortal or
vegetable...he's acquired quite a head count in 5 seasons...immortal and
mortal.
Leave us not forget, too, that Cory blew up Duncan first...with no lasting
effect; therefore, Duncan KNEW it wouldn't hurt Cory to get blasted. "It's
all in fun, Cory boy, it's all in fun!"
The writers didn't violate any code. They just put a few cracks in that
image ya'll seem to be worshipping.