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Peter Wingfield died Today?????????????????????

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Jerri LaPoint

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Marcus Poulin <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
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> I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
> Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of Staffordshire."
> I hope I didn't hear this right.

Well, <my> heart just stopped. Any verification?
Jerri

EPKC

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>Marcus Poulin <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
><350BF9...@ix.netcom.com>...
>> I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
>> Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of Staffordshire."
>> I hope I didn't hear this right.

Jerri Wrote:
>Well, <my> heart just stopped. Any verification?

No verification, am holding my breath, waiting for it.
Elaine P.
>Jerri

Marcus Poulin

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Jerri LaPoint wrote:
>
> Marcus Poulin <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
> <350BF9...@ix.netcom.com>...
> > I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
> > Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of Staffordshire."
> > I hope I didn't hear this right.
>
> Well, <my> heart just stopped. Any verification?
> Jerri

Brendan

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On 15 Mar 1998 16:15:32 GMT, ep...@aol.com (EPKC) wrote:

>
>>Marcus Poulin <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
>><350BF9...@ix.netcom.com>...
>>> I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
>>> Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of Staffordshire."
>>> I hope I didn't hear this right.
>

>Jerri Wrote:
>>Well, <my> heart just stopped. Any verification?
>

>No verification, am holding my breath, waiting for it.
>Elaine P.
>>Jerri
>
>

My heart too is stopped. Am searching frantically for verification.


bre...@capital.net
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Brendan

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That was NOT funny. I could've had a heart attack!

GisyBaby

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Hey that's not funny at all!!!!!!!Even I know not to posts things like
that!!!!!Hey Naomi is this a troll or what??????

Gisy
What did you expect Einstein,Freud,Buddha,I'm just a kid!
Come to the VR CON March 20-22 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marcus Poulin

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Marcus Poulin wrote:

>
> Jerri LaPoint wrote:
> >
> > Marcus Poulin <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
> > <350BF9...@ix.netcom.com>...
> > > I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
> > > Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of Staffordshire."
> > > I hope I didn't hear this right.
> >
> > Well, <my> heart just stopped. Any verification?
> > Jerri


Sorry cruel joke :(

JLLAPOINT

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>Marcus Poulin wrote:
>> Jerri LaPoint wrote:
>> > Marcus Poulin <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
>> > > I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
>> > > Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of
>Staffordshire."
>> > > I hope I didn't hear this right.
>> >
>> > Well, <my> heart just stopped. Any verification?
>> > Jerri

>Sorry cruel joke :(

Oh THAT makes up for it. I wasted half the freakin' morning feeling like utter
crap and searching the Internet and channel surfing the tv to find out. I think
you just gave troll a whole new definition.
Jerri <almost kicked a dog and pretty pissed about that>

Highlandmg

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TO marcus

you must be a very SICK person to put this on a bb you might have thought this
was funny however to put this up on a bb where MAYBE his family, friends might
see.yyou must have a small mind to think something like this up... even to
think up someone dieing is a sick thought not to mention posting itto a bb THIS
WAS NOT FUNNY. MY OH MY WHAT SOME PEOPLE WILL DO TO GET A LITTLE ATTENTION....

Highlandmg

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Marcus

Cruel JOKE ... This was not a joke it was mean spirted

mary

biltzjoh

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The guy was joking. He came on a few minutes later saying he was alive.
Also PW is in Canada filming the Sentinel.
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Brendan wrote in message <350c026d...@news.capital.net>...
>On 15 Mar 1998 16:15:32 GMT, ep...@aol.com (EPKC) wrote:
>
>>
>>>Marcus Poulin <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
>>><350BF9...@ix.netcom.com>...

>>>> I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
>>>> Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of
Staffordshire."
>>>> I hope I didn't hear this right.
>>
>>Jerri Wrote:
>>>Well, <my> heart just stopped. Any verification?
>>
>>No verification, am holding my breath, waiting for it.
>>Elaine P.
>>>Jerri
>>
>>
>My heart too is stopped. Am searching frantically for verification.
>
>

HilandVeil

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98
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<snipping a sick, cruel and disgusting attempt at a *joke*>

Oh yeah, saying it was a joke makes up for the way my heart was pounding, the
way I frantically searched for confirmation, the way I caused about 4 other
people to panic by asking if they had any news, the unshed tears in my eyes as
I tried to convince myself it did not happen.

I am sure if any of his family frequented ATH, they would sure be relieved to
hear it was a joke.

I just recently had a death in my family and a joke like this is NOT funny
under any circumstances. Now before someone comes back and posts "He was an
actor, you don't know him, get a grip" let me explain a few things.

Yes, he is an actor and yes, I do not know him personally. I have met him and
spoken to him though. I feel like I know him. He is a warm, funny and
interesting man. I feel a connection to him. I felt such a kick in my stomach
when I read that cruel post. I felt much the same when Princess Di was killed.
I think I speak for many when I say we feel like Peter is part of our lives in
a small part.

What a sick individual!!

D~
Denise
Hilan...@aol.com
"Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did but backwards and in high heels"

AsherDebar

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Maybe Peter Wingfield actually IS an immortal.

Amy
::a little humor might help ease this situation, but thinks the original poster
is a total flaming twit - really wishing she wasn't posting from AOL so she
could flambe a certain individual::

Marcus Poulin

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Hey I said I was sorry. I think Methos is cool too.
It seemed like a practical joke at the time. Apology accepted?

Marc

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MBianch447

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Dans l'article <350BF9...@ix.netcom.com>, Marcus Poulin
<vinc...@ix.netcom.com> écrit :

>I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
>Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of Staffordshire."
>I hope I didn't hear this right.
>

>Marc

OK, I am not in England at the moment, but is the poster of this mail spending
his time glued to the radio? (previous post about EG, allegedly heard on BBC
too...)
or is it a spam? I heard Peter Wingfield was in Vancouver at the moment?
or....?


Maroussia
"mi casa es su casa"
Methos

HL VR Con Hostess for Paris


kasandra

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On Sun, 15 Mar 1998 09:39:06 -0800, Marcus Poulin
<vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Not a chance. This rumor has spread across the world. There are lots
and lots of folks franticly trying to confirm/deny this. You're a
jerk. Get off the internet till you learn some manners.

Kas

Brendan

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On Sun, 15 Mar 1998 09:45:01 -0800, Marcus Poulin
<vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>I AM SORRY EVERYONE. IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD PRACTICAL JOKE AT THE TIME.
>I THINK PETER WINGFIELD AND THE METHOS'S CHARACTER IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE
>ACTORS AND CHARACTERS. SAVE ME FROM THIS NNTP ABUSE. I SURELY WOULDN'T
>WANT HIM TO DIE. I DON'T EVEN WANT THE SHOW TO DIE. I LIKE IT TOO MUCH.
>
>MARC "SOMEWHERE NEAR THE BATHROOM.....SOMEWHERE NEAR GOING BLIND"


Alright, I accept your apology. (it did make my heart race terribly
tho!) One more thing before I go... you should never joke about
someone dying in real life. Methos maybe, but not Peter. I only hope
he hasn't been jinxed now.

Patti (who doesn't really believe in jinxes but is keeping her options
open just in case)

LissaF96

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>I AM SORRY EVERYONE. IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD PRACTICAL JOKE AT THE TIME.
>I THINK PETER WINGFIELD AND THE METHOS'S CHARACTER IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE
>ACTORS AND CHARACTERS. SAVE ME FROM THIS NNTP ABUSE. I SURELY WOULDN'T
>WANT HIM TO DIE. I DON'T EVEN WANT THE SHOW TO DIE. I LIKE IT TOO MUCH.
>
>MARC "SOMEWHERE NEAR THE BATHROOM.....SOMEWHERE NEAR GOING BLIND"
>

Just do everyone a favor and grow up!!! May God have mercy on your soul for
the pain you have caused others because of your need for attention...

--Melissa in Los Angeles (not using her sig because she certainly doesn't want
to see this little troll in Anahiem)

Collette D Colvin

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I have searche all of the news groups, US and UK. I can fing no mention
of Peter in the last 7 days....Hopefully, you misunderstood.

Marcus Poulin <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<350BF9...@ix.netcom.com>...

Cynthia187

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This was a joke from an individual has since apologized (not that I have
fogiven him). This post unfortunately, has probably hit the internet world
with a storm and is probably getting back to Mr. Wingfield at this very moment.
My heart raced when I read this and I thought about it and said to myself "but
Pete's in Vancouver". So, fear not...it seems that the rumor has been dispelled
and the poster,hopefully, has learned a hard lesson about the power of
suggestion and the internet"....

Cyn

Hiljohnqu

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I changed the Subject line slightly so that any one else just coming to the
newsgroup will hopefully see immediately that it's not true and feel their
heart racing to a stop.

Anyhow, Marcus says:
>>I AM SORRY EVERYONE. IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD PRACTICAL JOKE AT THE TIME.
I THINK PETER WINGFIELD AND THE METHOS'S CHARACTER IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE
ACTORS AND CHARACTERS. SAVE ME FROM THIS NNTP ABUSE. I SURELY WOULDN'T
WANT HIM TO DIE. I DON'T EVEN WANT THE SHOW TO DIE. I LIKE IT TOO MUCH. <<

It's going to take some time for some among this group to forgive you, but
they'll come around . . . eventually (I hope). They will consider Duncan's
compassion and his capicity for forgiveness, but you must understand, it takes
TIME to calm down, especially from a bad shock. I suggest you not post anymore
on this for the time being - you got some nice folks very, very mad. Perhaps a
personal "I'm sorry" sent to each member expressing alarm might be in order.

Hilary___________
hilj...@aol.com
blood pressure is still off scale - think a 5-mile run is in order


Cynthia187

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ok folks...it seems I am perpetuating this rumor by keeping the subject line.
I now hereby declare a subject change...;-)

Beth Scott

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MBianch447 wrote in message
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>Dans l'article <350BF9...@ix.netcom.com>, Marcus Poulin
><vinc...@ix.netcom.com> écrit :
>

>>I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
>>Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of Staffordshire."
>>I hope I didn't hear this right.
>>
>>Marc
>

>OK, I am not in England at the moment, but is the poster of this mail
spending
>his time glued to the radio? (previous post about EG, allegedly heard on
BBC
>too...)
>or is it a spam? I heard Peter Wingfield was in Vancouver at the moment?
>or....?
>
>
>Maroussia
>"mi casa es su casa"
>Methos
>
>HL VR Con Hostess for Paris
>

Man, all of this trolling is getting ridiculous. What rerun hell will do to
some people, I guess.

Yes, I believe that PW is currently (hopefully) in Vancouver filming a
couple of guest spots on TV shows, which is why I didn't believe this in the
first place.

One of the reasons I have always hated practical jokes is because they can
become mean-spirited very quickly. They are basically meant to make the
butt of the joke look foolish. So, Marcus, good luck trying to find some
forgiveness on the NG. You won't be getting any from me.

Beth S.

Jerri LaPoint

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> On Sun, 15 Mar 1998 09:45:01 -0800, Marcus Poulin
> <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> I AM SORRY EVERYONE. IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD PRACTICAL JOKE AT THE TIME.
snip

I can't even imagine the thought process that made that seem like "a good
practical joke". Unless you're a 14-year-old boy. Are you a 14-year-old
boy? A precocious 12-year-old boy? A retarded 16-year-old boy? Outside
those parameters, it seems unlikely...
Jerri

Jerri LaPoint

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Hiljohnqu <hilj...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19980315191...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
snip
> It's going to take some time for some among this group to forgive you,
but
> they'll come around . . . eventually (I hope). They will consider
Duncan's
> compassion and his capicity for forgiveness, but you must understand, it
takes
> TIME to calm down, especially from a bad shock. I suggest you not post
anymore
> on this for the time being - you got some nice folks very, very mad.
Perhaps a
> personal "I'm sorry" sent to each member expressing alarm might be in
order.

Hilary, I always regarded Duncan as having an awesome capacity for revenge.
<g> I like that about him. I don't need or want a personal apology from
vinc...@ix.netcom.com. I already went out and looked him up on Dejanews.
THAT was pretty entertaining. I especially liked the ... well, never mind.
Anyone who wants to can go look him up, too. Just as a practical joke.
Jerri

Velia Tanner and Friends

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In article <350BF9...@ix.netcom.com> Marcus Poulin <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
>Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of Staffordshire."
>I hope I didn't hear this right.

Don't even joke about this!

I think PW is in Vancouver filming The Sentinel, so he should be safe?

Didn't *Simon Pemberton* (PW's character) die in a car crash on the Archers?
Maybe a year ago today or something?

V.
Not panicking.

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Marcus Poulin wrote in message <350BF9...@ix.netcom.com>...


>I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
>Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of Staffordshire."
>I hope I didn't hear this right.
>

>Marc


*Outside* Staffordshire?

*Outside* where? Staffordshire is a SHIRE - you know, a COUNTY, so
*outside* the county, would be, in the NEXT county, the next again, outside
the COUNTRY,

Methinks young Marci that thou art a trollster.

Dost thou wish to be flamed into the Stone Age?

Jette Goldie (Joe's my jo!) boss...@ednet.co.uk
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Marcus Poulin wrote:
>
> I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
> Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of Staffordshire."
> I hope I didn't hear this right.
>
> Marc
Marc,
first a troll is someone who says something to cause people to react.
you did that. BAD joke. This is circulating well beyond what you may
have intended. It hurt people's feelings and is floating around the
globe. I hope that no one called his family. Your guilt would be much
deeper at that point. I suggest you put a deferment/delay on ongoing
posts. Something like 12 hours. Sometimes I wish I did, my sense of
humor is a little too subtle or just plain lost in cyberspace. In the
meantime
grovel a lot. This ng is full of very caring, and very intelligent
individuals. Most will not retaliate. However, I would grovel a great
deal and be prepared for some flambe humble pie at this point. Take it
as penance if it comes, oh and grovel some more. Eventually, people
will forgive (I hope) you for the "joke", just learn from it. I am
sending a fire extinquisher in cyber space for you, you may need it.

ps. And to the rest of ng. Let's forgive after an appropriate period of
time. This may be the worst troll post yet. Most trolls don't apologize
in any form. But perhaps he is sincere,
let's wait and not roast his chestnuts, singe maybe. :)

--
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James Dove

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Its not true. Im in the UK.

Although ive been at work all day. I have looked at text, and there isnt any
news on it

Ill check it out properly later

I HOPE HES NOT DEAD


Jerri LaPoint wrote in message
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>Marcus Poulin <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
><350BF9...@ix.netcom.com>...

>> I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
>> Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of Staffordshire."
>> I hope I didn't hear this right.
>

>Well, <my> heart just stopped. Any verification?

>Jerri

James Dove

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Brendan wrote in message <350c026d...@news.capital.net>...
>On 15 Mar 1998 16:15:32 GMT, ep...@aol.com (EPKC) wrote:
>
>>

>>>Marcus Poulin <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
>>><350BF9...@ix.netcom.com>...
>>>> I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
>>>> Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of
Staffordshire."
>>>> I hope I didn't hear this right.
>>

>>Jerri Wrote:
>>>Well, <my> heart just stopped. Any verification?
>>

James Dove

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Marcus Poulin wrote in message <350C06...@ix.netcom.com>...
>Marcus Poulin wrote:


>>
>> Jerri LaPoint wrote:
>> >
>> > Marcus Poulin <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
>> > <350BF9...@ix.netcom.com>...
>> > > I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
>> > > Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of
Staffordshire."
>> > > I hope I didn't hear this right.
>> >

>> > Well, <my> heart just stopped. Any verification?

MBianch447

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Dans l'article <350C12...@ix.netcom.com>, Marcus Poulin
<vinc...@ix.netcom.com> écrit :

>Hey I said I was sorry. I think Methos is cool too.


>It seemed like a practical joke at the time. Apology accepted?
>
>Marc

Apology is not enough!!!! Get another sense of humour too!! And a life, that
will give us a vacation!!!!!

Jeff Vavasour

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Hiljohnqu wrote in message
<19980315191...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
[on the "prankster" Marc]

>It's going to take some time for some among this group to forgive you, but
>they'll come around . . . eventually (I hope). They will consider Duncan's
>compassion and his capicity for forgiveness,
[...]

[First, yes, I agree the prank post was very poor taste and lacked any
qualities of a joke, but...]

I find this statement perplexing. Why are we drawing on a fictional
character that's only been around six years in order to define our personal
moral stature? These people who do, where were they before they had
Highlander to guide them? What are they going to do after this season?

- Jeff


Jette Goldie

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Marcus Poulin

>Hey I said I was sorry. I think Methos is cool too.
>It seemed like a practical joke at the time. Apology accepted?
>

Marcus

You are going to have do more than say sorry in this perfunctary way.

As it happens two days ago a good friend of mine died. She was only 51.

Two years ago my Grandfather, Mother and Grandmother died. My cat died.

Last year my best friend's mother died, my other friend's father died,
another friend's husband died. Two of my neighbours died.

All of the people above (apart from the first listed) died when I was on
vacation or had gone away for the weekend to a convention. Yesterday I was
away at a High School Reunion. It had gotten so that I began to fear any
kind of travel. To have found that PW - who I HAVE met, and DO know
(slightly) had died while I travelled again, would rather have set the seal
on any further attempts at travel.

You are very, very lucky that the only contact I am likely to have with you
is by e-mail or newsgroup. This is not to be taken as a threat. I do not
make threats. (I make promises - and I always keep my promises)

donna (donna)

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Marcus Poulin <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> was discussing (at least in
part):

>Hey I said I was sorry. I think Methos is cool too.
>It seemed like a practical joke at the time. Apology accepted?

Not only no, but *hell* no. But before you head back under
your little bridge, tell me - do you eat a lot of Preparation H?

donna
not amused

JSP/RGH

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kasandra wrote:

>
> On Sun, 15 Mar 1998 09:39:06 -0800, Marcus Poulin
> <vinc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> Not a chance. This rumor has spread across the world. There are lots
> and lots of folks franticly trying to confirm/deny this. You're a
> jerk. Get off the internet till you learn some manners.
>
> Kas

HEY! The guy APOLOGIZED!! Get a grip! And YOU are the one who should
learn some manners!!

> >
> >Hey I said I was sorry. I think Methos is cool too.
> >It seemed like a practical joke at the time. Apology accepted?
> >

> >Marc

Lea

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I think we can all learn something about humour and joking here.

The case in point is cruel; it is not, however a joke.

Humour, I believe, is intended to inform, instruct, and lighten one's
life. This instance did nothing like this.

Whenever one takes an oppportunity to put someone else down, hurt them,
or make them (from one's own perspective) look silly, one is feeding an
internal need, I think. I try to practice what I "preach" here. That
is, I examine *why* I might want to take such an opportunity and learn
what is hurting me that I would want to hurt others.


Okay, I was at church today....and I'm the 5th generation decendant of
preachers....I promise *not* to get on a soap box too often!

:-)

Lea


Marcus Poulin wrote:
>
> Sorry cruel joke :(

Toni Nolan

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I agree with Donna-I was not amused either. Also, as someone else said,
I do hope no one bothered Peter's family with this idiocy.

Toni Nolan
--
tno...@worldnet.att.net

JSP/RGH

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Jette Goldie wrote:
>
> Marcus Poulin

>
> >Hey I said I was sorry. I think Methos is cool too.
> >It seemed like a practical joke at the time. Apology accepted?
> >
>
> Marcus
>
> You are going to have do more than say sorry in this perfunctary way.
>
> As it happens two days ago a good friend of mine died. She was only 51.
>
> Two years ago my Grandfather, Mother and Grandmother died. My cat died.
>
> Last year my best friend's mother died, my other friend's father died,
> another friend's husband died. Two of my neighbours died.
>
> All of the people above (apart from the first listed) died when I was on
> vacation or had gone away for the weekend to a convention. Yesterday I was
> away at a High School Reunion. It had gotten so that I began to fear any
> kind of travel. To have found that PW - who I HAVE met, and DO know
> (slightly) had died while I travelled again, would rather have set the seal
> on any further attempts at travel.
>
> You are very, very lucky that the only contact I am likely to have with you
> is by e-mail or newsgroup. This is not to be taken as a threat. I do not
> make threats. (I make promises - and I always keep my promises)
>
> Jette Goldie

Poor baby... all these people died on you...boo hoo hoo hoo hoo! People
die every day. And it is not caused by YOU leaving home. (Well, not
unless you were in the car that caused the accident in which the person
died..)

LIGHTEN UP!!!!!!

The thing that is so hilarious is watching how so many of you in this
self-proclaimed "nicest newsgroup on the 'Net" are taking this sooooo
seriously and being so outrageously indignant to this guy. Most of y'all
are a bunch of HYPOCRITES!!!

JSP

Lorna Hanrahan

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What bothered me most about this whole thing was this comes shrtly after a
friend of mine had been killed in a car accident. Went to the services
friday so it is still a bit hard to accept since she was only 38 and left
behind 6 kids. Death is never a joking matter.

Lorna

Marcus Poulin

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Leikin Sky wrote:
>
> Melissa:
> >I used to watch and love a show called Kindred: The Embraced, it was not the
> >most successful show but I liked it. I rarely missed an ep. It had been
> >cancelled by Fox but there was talk that it might be revived in syndication
> >by
> >some European company which, now excapes my memory. It stared Mark Frankel
> >as
> >the Vampire Prince of San Francisco. Mark Frankel was handsome and talented
> >and on the threshold of great success. He died at the age of 34 when his
> >motorcycle collided with a truck. It was on a ng that I first learned of his
> >passing. I was shocked and saddened and felt it in my stomach. I thought at
> >the time it was untrue, some cruel joke, but sadly it wasn't.
> >
> >That is why I am furious with this thread (as it originally was). This so
> >called practical joker caused those feelings I described above to resurface.
> >This was just unfunny and cruel. period. The only thing that I am glad
> >about
> >is that the troll admitted that he lied. As for forgiveness? I doubt very
> >much that this troll really wants or needs our forgiveness...
> >
> Ditto! I was also a Kindred fan and was SHOCKED/DISTURBED when I heard Frankel
> had died! B/C Methos (& PW) is my fave HL character, I damn near went into
> cardiac arrest when I read that cruel, sorry excuse for a so-called "joke"! As
> Melissa said, that troll probably isn't really seeking forgiveness; more
> likely, (s)he just wanted to see how het up (s)he could get we HL/PW/Methos
> fans!
>
> Leikin Sky
I am sorry about that. I was saddened by the distress I caused today. A
sadist wouldn't take the time to email all these people back..? Let me
know.

Marc

KathH12

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><HTML><PRE><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">Subject: Peter Wingfield died
>Today?????????????????????
>From: Marcus Poulin <vinc...@ix.netcom.com>
>Date: Sun, Mar 15, 1998 10:52 EST
>Message-id: <350BF9...@ix.netcom.com>

>I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
>Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of Staffordshire."
>I hope I didn't hear this right.
>

>Marc

Just how sick are you? I'd certainly seek professional help immediately, you
seem to be beyond help!!!

Pickled

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On 15 Mar 1998 19:56:16 GMT, "Jerri LaPoint"
<jlap...@spamthis.sky.net> wrote:

>I don't need or want a personal apology from
>vinc...@ix.netcom.com. I already went out and looked him up on Dejanews.
>THAT was pretty entertaining. I especially liked the ... well, never mind.
>Anyone who wants to can go look him up, too. Just as a practical joke.
>Jerri

Thanks for the suggestion, Jerri... I must say it was a rather...
erm... enlightening little journey...

Ol' Stingray's really somthin'... ;)

Alice.
*****
The HERRING is a red one. You'll have to treat it as such to reply by email.

HilandVeil

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An obvious troll posted:

>HEY! The guy APOLOGIZED!! Get a grip! And YOU are the one who should learn
some manners!


It is not wise to post in a newsgroup where you are not aware of the dynamics.
He may have apologized but that far from sets things right.

Read the FAQ's before you post. It was unbelievable rude, obnoxious and cruel
to post that. Last time I checked, those adjectives sure discribe bad manners
to me.

Posting and pointing fingers is bad manners. This is a generic comment as are
all my posts :) I send my ill mannered things privately.

D~


SWatson700

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To say someone died or was killed is NO JOKE AT ALL. Get a life you little son
of a bitch. I'm sorry, but death is nothing to make jokes about or play around
with. How would you feel if someone told you that one of your parents or a
sibling died in a car crash and then just say "Hey man, I was joking." I don't
think that you'd find that quite as amusing as what you tried to pull here.
Not just because it's Peter, but to make a statement like that shows your lack
of respect for people as well as your lack of upbringing. I'll say it once
again -- GET A LIFE.

And now, a word from our sponsors. . . .


The Trampoline Lady

SWatson700

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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Trampoline Lady

SWatson700

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Please don't belittle retarded people like that. Even they have better sense
that to do something THAT cruel.


The Trampoline Lady

SWatson700

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So dear, how was your day? LOL.

Great move Cynthia.


The Trampoline Lady

Jette Goldie

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Pickled wrote in message <350c8eaf...@news.idt.net>...


>On 15 Mar 1998 19:56:16 GMT, "Jerri LaPoint"
><jlap...@spamthis.sky.net> wrote:
>
>>I don't need or want a personal apology from
>>vinc...@ix.netcom.com. I already went out and looked him up on Dejanews.
>>THAT was pretty entertaining. I especially liked the ... well, never mind.
>>Anyone who wants to can go look him up, too. Just as a practical joke.
>>Jerri
>
>Thanks for the suggestion, Jerri... I must say it was a rather...
>erm... enlightening little journey...
>
>Ol' Stingray's really somthin'... ;)
>

Oh he's THAT person?

Nice to see he doesn't just troll our ng. I think the Star Trek people want
a bit of him too.

Cynthia187

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>So dear, how was your day? LOL.
>
>Great move Cynthia.
>
>
>The Trampoline Lady

Aside from the little problem of this morning...not too bad. I really am
looking forward to Anaheim. Anyone else out there looking forward to seeing
all the actors/actresses in the same building?

RosebudSal

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>
>In article <350BF9...@ix.netcom.com> Marcus Poulin
><vinc...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>>I was listening to the BBC today and they said "(March 15, 1998)Welsh
>>Actor Peter Wingfield was killed in car crash outside of Staffordshire."
>>I hope I didn't hear this right.

Velia wrote:
>Don't even joke about this!
>
>I think PW is in Vancouver filming The Sentinel, so he should be safe?

Yeah, I think he's filming this week.

>Didn't *Simon Pemberton* (PW's character) die in a car crash on the Archers?
>Maybe a year ago today or something?
>
>V.
>Not panicking.
>
>--
>

I never followed the Archers too regularly but didn't Simon end up in jail? And
that's how they explained replacing Peter with another actor? IIRC, Peter was
a bit bummed that Simon didn't
go out with a bang.

Maria (who thinks people spreading false rumors should be...)

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Jette Goldie

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I suggest you read my entire message.
JSP/RGH wrote in message <350C75...@was.net>...

>
>Poor baby... all these people died on you...boo hoo hoo hoo hoo! People
>die every day. And it is not caused by YOU leaving home. (Well, not
>unless you were in the car that caused the accident in which the person
>died..)
>

Did I say so? I said I felt like I was getting to be *jinxed*. Having lost
so many in such a short time, I'm getting *punch drunk* - I really do NOT
need to lose another friend, even if he is someone I've only met once and
for a few hours.

>LIGHTEN UP!!!!!!
>

No.


Tell you what. I'll post about how your friend died yesterday. You can
panic, call his mother, and all his other friends, to check if it is true.
His mother hasn't heard from him for a few days, so she starts to panic.
He's not available on line, and isn't answering his phone, so she panics
more. Eventually she works herself into such a state she ends up in
hospital herself.

Then I say "hey, April Fool - sorry if I got you a bit upset"

How funny is that? You gonna forgive me in one moment?

Peter Wingfield is an actor - yes. He is also a person. He has parents, he
has friends, he has a wife.

I'll give you a "What If?" scenario. We know that journalists use the 'net
for research. Suppose someone from one of the *gutter press* (or even the
more respectable papers) happened to be lurking here? he's got a scoop, he
thinks, and immediately starts calling PW's family and friends to hear their
reactions. PW is in Vancouver. Perhaps he doesn't phone home every day.
He may not even be near a phone, depending on where they are filming. So
they have journalists camped on their doorsteps telling them that Peter is
dead.

Bet they would LOVE the joke. (to my knowledge this has not happened - but
it could have so easily) (I was getting phone calls from half a world away
to see if *I* knew anything, and having been out of touch myself for a
couple of days, I must admit my heart stopped for a second or two)

And btw, I cried all the way home after those calls, just *thinking* it
*might* be true - because each death brings the last one (and the first one)
right back to mind. Even if you weren't close to the person, it reminds you
of the one you WERE close to.


>The thing that is so hilarious is watching how so many of you in this
>self-proclaimed "nicest newsgroup on the 'Net" are taking this sooooo
>seriously and being so outrageously indignant to this guy. Most of y'all
>are a bunch of HYPOCRITES!!!
>

No, it shows that WE CARE about people. We would TRULY mourn Peter were he
to be gone. We would mourn for a talented actor gone, a fine young man cut
down in his prime, for his family and friends who had lost him, for all our
own losses of recent years that this would remind us of.

Not funny, JSP, not funny at all - and just for your information a newspaper
once printed an obituary of someone who was not dead. Person then sued the
paper for HUGE damages because of the pain and distress caused to his
family.

Marcus's best course of action just now would be to lie VERY quiet. He does
have a history of less than inspiring posts on this and other ngs (which a
quick search on Deja News with his e-mail address will get you) (and a habit
of changing his name - but not e-mail addy)

Julie A. Engberg

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In article <350C75...@was.net>,
JSP/RGH <pr...@was.net> wrote:

>Poor baby... all these people died on you...boo hoo hoo hoo hoo! People
>die every day. And it is not caused by YOU leaving home. (Well, not
>unless you were in the car that caused the accident in which the person
>died..)
>

>LIGHTEN UP!!!!!!


>
>The thing that is so hilarious is watching how so many of you in this
>self-proclaimed "nicest newsgroup on the 'Net" are taking this sooooo
>seriously and being so outrageously indignant to this guy. Most of y'all
>are a bunch of HYPOCRITES!!!
>

>JSP

I don't think people should have to "lighten up" about this, death affects
people deeply and I also think that ridiculing Jette's own personal pain is
very petty and inconsiderate. She and everyone else on this ng have a right
to be hurt and angry. As for taking this 'soooooo seriously and being so
outrageously indignant', it is *extremely* serious and the individual who
played this cruel prank was outrageously indignant to common decency and
etiquette. There was a complete lack of respect for PW, his family, his
friends, and his fans. I do not believe forgiveness is impossible (I do not
believe it is ever impossible) but it will take time for people get over
this, and perhaps some never will. The individual did apologize, but that
doesn't mean things will suddenly be all better.

I lost two friends in an accident this year and the shock and suddenness of
their deaths was very painful and frustrating. It is *never* a joke.

peace,

Andrea

LissaF96

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>To say someone died or was killed is NO JOKE AT ALL. Get a life you little
>son
>of a b(snip). I'm sorry, but death is nothing to make jokes about or play

>around
>with. How would you feel if someone told you that one of your parents or a
>sibling died in a car crash and then just say "Hey man, I was joking." I
>don't
>think that you'd find that quite as amusing as what you tried to pull here.
>Not just because it's Peter, but to make a statement like that shows your
>lack
>of respect for people as well as your lack of upbringing. I'll say it once
>again -- GET A LIFE.
>
>And now, a word from our sponsors. . . .
>
>The Trampoline Lady

I used to watch and love a show called Kindred: The Embraced, it was not the


most successful show but I liked it. I rarely missed an ep. It had been
cancelled by Fox but there was talk that it might be revived in syndication by
some European company which, now excapes my memory. It stared Mark Frankel as
the Vampire Prince of San Francisco. Mark Frankel was handsome and talented
and on the threshold of great success. He died at the age of 34 when his
motorcycle collided with a truck. It was on a ng that I first learned of his
passing. I was shocked and saddened and felt it in my stomach. I thought at
the time it was untrue, some cruel joke, but sadly it wasn't.

That is why I am furious with this thread (as it originally was). This so
called practical joker caused those feelings I described above to resurface.
This was just unfunny and cruel. period. The only thing that I am glad about
is that the troll admitted that he lied. As for forgiveness? I doubt very
much that this troll really wants or needs our forgiveness...

--Melissa in Los Angeles (who because she failed to do so with Kindred: The
Embraced, now tapes her favorite shows)

Leikin Sky

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Melissa:

>I used to watch and love a show called Kindred: The Embraced, it was not the
>most successful show but I liked it. I rarely missed an ep. It had been
>cancelled by Fox but there was talk that it might be revived in syndication
>by
>some European company which, now excapes my memory. It stared Mark Frankel
>as
>the Vampire Prince of San Francisco. Mark Frankel was handsome and talented
>and on the threshold of great success. He died at the age of 34 when his
>motorcycle collided with a truck. It was on a ng that I first learned of his
>passing. I was shocked and saddened and felt it in my stomach. I thought at
>the time it was untrue, some cruel joke, but sadly it wasn't.
>
>That is why I am furious with this thread (as it originally was). This so
>called practical joker caused those feelings I described above to resurface.
>This was just unfunny and cruel. period. The only thing that I am glad
>about
>is that the troll admitted that he lied. As for forgiveness? I doubt very
>much that this troll really wants or needs our forgiveness...
>

Beth Scott

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JSP/RGH wrote in message <350C75...@was.net>...


I'm sorry, but how can you say something this cruel *2 days* after a good
friend of Jette's died? It seems to me that you haven't yet had the
experience of the death of a close family member or friend in your life.
IE, I'm hoping that you are not so callous that you can just shrug off
something like someone's death by saying "people die every day".

I realize that we are separated by thousands of miles of fiberoptics, but
the people on this newsgroup and elsewhere on the Internet are still people
with feelings. If you were sitting around the lunch table with people at
work, conversing face to face with them, would you say something like this?
Probably not. You would be eating lunch alone if you did.

One of the reasons I identify with this series and DM is how it deals with
death. Yes, DM often says things like, "People die" but it is his way of
dealing with his own pain. He has never and would never say something like
that to a friend trying to cope with a recent loss.

Sorry to hear about your recent loss, Jette.

Beth S.

In full realization that DM is a fictional character, but is just trying to
make a point.


Highlandmg

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well its the next day and Marc and other defending him I guess you have never
had a death in the family. For you to call your brothers and tell them Mom or
Dad just died. and also to come home from work to hear on your answering
machine your best friend 43 years old passed away that monring... No you do not
know the heart ache yet.. Yeah people die every day but when you love ,respect,
need ,these so called people a litle bit of you die with them.. Jette you have
my best wishes in your mourning and count your self very lucky death has not
paid you a visit to your doorbelieve me its never funny and its the worse phone
call you have to make or recieve...

Mary

{{{Jette}}}

MBianch447

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Dans l'article <350C60...@was.net>, JSP/RGH <pr...@was.net> écrit :

>HEY! The guy APOLOGIZED!! Get a grip! And YOU are the one who should

>learn some manners!!

Yeah! and OJ said he was sorry, and Tyson said he was sorry, and this
pedophiliac lady said she was sorry, oh! yes and they even said it publicly!!

Just what is it with you guys to think that it changes so much about what they
did??? Every time I see a public statement of this kind it just makes me want
to $%#$#%@ (heavily censored) This is just a despicable attempt to use the
public's feeling of guilt and religious upbringing to atone for unacceptable
things, I am always in awe of such attitude in countries where people would let
someone die on the pavement before feeling concerned about anything!!!

Well, it is usually hard to make me angry, and I know I shouldn't, but I guess
i am just human!

Maroussia
Maroussia
"mi casa es su casa"
Methos

HL VR Con Hostess for Paris


Hiljohnqu

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Hi Jeff - you wrote:

>>I find this statement perplexing. Why are we drawing on a fictional
character that's only been around six years in order to define our personal
moral stature? These people who do, where were they before they had
Highlander to guide them? What are they going to do after this season?<<

No, I don't believe that we are drawing on a fictional character to define our
morality. We respond to this fictional character because we were moral people
to begin with. It takes many, many years for a person to define their personal
moral stature - and it starts in very early childhood and continues to grow and
evolve as one goes through life.

I used Duncan as an example because, after all, this is ATH and the characters
of the show is the uniting force that keeps the newsgroup going. If we all
didn't like Highlander so much, we wouldn't be here, reading the enormous
amount of posts(!), responding to those that move/tickle/whatever us to do so.
Duncan's character is a commonality which we all understand and can use to
*define our terms* so to speak.

I'm probably not making any sense. Oh well . . .

Maybe Jerri's right - Duncan also has quite a capacity for revenge.

But I can assure you, that after Highlander is over, we (most of us anyway)
will all continue to be moral people drawing on Real Life experience to grow
and progress, just like we did before Highlander.

Hilary___________
hilj...@aol.com

LissaF96

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> I am sorry about that. I was saddened by the distress I caused today. A
>sadist wouldn't take the time to email all these people back..? Let me
>know.
>
>Marc
>
I'm really still not convinced that Marc is sincere, the whole thing seems
contrived. He must be a terribly lonely individual...

--Melissa in Los Angeles (will not use her sig file on this thread)

MsNia4

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It is truly amazing how trifling people think that simply saying " I'm sorry"
FIXES anything they might do. It does not. In fact, the cavalier attitude is
simply further insult. I have also notices over the years that such
self-absorption seems to be directly related to one's testosterone level. This
is not an idictment of all males, merely the attitudes.
Grandmotherly advice:
"The meek aint gonna inherit shit, 'cuz somebody is going to be there to take
it from them. Might as well be you and me!"- I never said she was Grandma
Good-Cookie.
Copyright 1998 All rights reserved. May not be copied, reprodluced, or
forwarded without written permission of the author.


Alison Hopkins

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RosebudSal wrote in message
<19980316032...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

>I never followed the Archers too regularly but didn't Simon end up in jail?
And
>that's how they explained replacing Peter with another actor? IIRC, Peter
was
>a bit bummed that Simon didn't
>go out with a bang.

No, he went off to the Middle East or someplace, to avoid being charged for
beating up Shula Archer.

Ali

Alison Hopkins

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Jette Goldie wrote in message <6ehdr6$nog$1...@monteverdi.ednet.co.uk>...

>Methinks young Marci that thou art a trollster.
>
>Dost thou wish to be flamed into the Stone Age?
>
>Jette Goldie

hey, Jette, send him a ticket for a Uk con.......... I suspect there are a
good few women who'd love to get their paws on the sick little pratt!

Ali

Neila Dandy

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First off I have to say I never saw the original post but having lurked
here a lot I know that most of you out there wouldn't react this way unless
it was very serious, and I'm with you all on that. I have one thing to say
to Marcus, did you ever considered that someone might be lurking in this
group who might have a deeper connection with Peter (i.e. a family member
or friend who may not see or him from him all the much). Say like a cousin
or something. Sure they can call up and find out if it's true or not but
that initial shock could kill a person or send their emotions to the moon.
Death is never a laughing matter and lying about it on this NG is like
crying wolf, if it ever really happens (whether someone from the show or a
list member) people will have doubts.

Alien


Velia Tanner and Friends

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In article <01bd511c$440ed9c0$64f9aecc@ndandy> "Neila Dandy" <nda...@direct.ca> writes:
>First off I have to say I never saw the original post but having lurked
>here a lot I know that most of you out there wouldn't react this way unless
>it was very serious, and I'm with you all on that. I have one thing to say
>to Marcus, did you ever considered that someone might be lurking in this
>group who might have a deeper connection with Peter (i.e. a family member
>or friend who may not see or him from him all the much).

Or say like all those mythical "PTB" (including AP, etc.) who are rumored to
read the ng from time to time but who probably don't talk to PW daily now
that HL is over, and who therefore may have gotten the shock of their lives,
learning that their *friend* had supposedly died?

V.

--

=========================================================================
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Bright young women, sick of swimmin', ready to stand...
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Skia

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Skia......PEACE.

The Debster

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Cynthia187 wrote in message
<19980316025...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

I'm so happy I'm going, I was in kind of a blue mood lately. It's so nice
to have something 'so fun' to look forward to. Does anyone know what the
weather will be like? Coming from New Hampshire where it is bone chilling
cold this week, it is difficult to imagine warmer weather. Well the
question is, how warm? Getting to my summer duds will take some effort.

Debbie,
The Debster Nashua, N.H.

Jerri LaPoint

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JSP/RGH <pr...@was.net> wrote in article <350C60...@was.net>...

> HEY! The guy APOLOGIZED!! Get a grip! And YOU are the one who should
> learn some manners!!

Hmmmm, it is my personal opinion that everyone who was alarmed by the
posting should have a whack at teaching HIM some manners. Apologies do not
have to be accepted, you know. And a lot of us have not accepted his. So,
if you're picking sides here...I think you landed on the wrong one.
Jerri

biltzjoh

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Mar 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/16/98
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Beth Scott wrote in message <6eio3c$ddc$1...@juliana.sprynet.com>...

He would be eating lunch with out teeth if he said it to me. I have a short
fuse. I am constantly amazed at how brave people are with all the those
miles between them. I can only assume that he is one of those geeks who
never developed any social skills and was picked on while growing up and the
humiliation of having all the other kids beating him up, the shame of not
having any friends and sexual frustration turned him into the stunted
twisted reprehensible little troll he is.

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Hiljohnqu

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98
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I do NOT excuse what this Mr. Poulin person has done . . . BUT

blitzjoh wrote:

>>I can only assume that he is one of those geeks who
never developed any social skills and was picked on while growing up and the
humiliation of having all the other kids beating him up, the shame of not
having any friends and sexual frustration turned him into the stunted twisted
reprehensible little troll he is.<<

If this indeed be the case, wouldn't this cause you to pity him more than scorn
him? I do not mean this as a flame, or even passing judgement upon your
feelings. Feelings are valid in whatever form they take and there are no wrong
feelings; it is in the ACTION we choose to take in expressing our feelings that
we are to be held accountable.

Therefore, the if feelings that drove this *troll* to do what he did may indeed
be something as awfull as described above, and I truly pity the guy. We'll
probably never know . . .

No more from me on any of this subject . . . moving on.

Hilary___________
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who's *feeling* miffed that Highlander got replaced by Walker Texas Ranger on
USA because of Moby Dick - <aacck! From the depths of hell I stab at thee!>

Cynthia187

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98
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>I'm so happy I'm going, I was in kind of a blue mood lately. It's so nice
>to have something 'so fun' to look forward to. Does anyone know what the
>weather will be like? Coming from New Hampshire where it is bone chilling
>cold this week, it is difficult to imagine warmer weather. Well the
>question is, how warm? Getting to my summer duds will take some effort.
>
>Debbie,
>The Debster Nashua, N.H.

Well, Califonia weather is very unpredictable these days. One day, El Nino
comes knocking on the door, dumping a ton of rain. The next day, the sun comes
out. Today (Monday), was pretty mild. Tempetures in the upper 60's in
Northern California. Hope to see you at the con, if we get our tickets <grrr>

Cynthia

KILTACKY

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Mar 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/19/98
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Oh my God,they made us think that they killed Methos!You bastards!

RosebudSal

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Mar 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/19/98
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>
>
>Oh my God,they made us think that they killed Methos!You bastards!


It was a false rumor regarding Peter Wingfield-- Not
Methos! Both are alive and well.

Maria

kimberly

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Mar 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/19/98
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i understand what you are saying Skia. i would be very interested,
though, in knowing Marcus's age. if he is an adult and did this,
it is disturbing that an adult would not realize the serious, possibly
tragic implications of a totally humorless prank such as this one.

if this is a young adolescent boy, however, well, adolescents do
really incredibly stupid things all the time. i just hope he
understands
the ramifications of his actions, how many people he hurt. if he
learns from this it won't be a total loss. if he still thinks it's
funny,
i think the boy needs help. an adult so cold to the feelings of other
people is sad and frightening. hopefully, he'll grow up to be a
responsible, kind adult.

Skia wrote:

> I remember when the Kindred ended...I liked the show, too. No one ever
> has the right to post drivel like Marcus did on the net. It was clearly
> done to upset people, and why would any of us wat to forgive him or
> welcome him into this family?
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> [Image] Skia......PEACE.

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Janette: care for a little taste?
Nick: what is it?
Janette: utah republican.
Nick: no thanks. I hate decaf.

KA Cawte

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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Alison Hopkins <fn...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

> Ali

Much as I hate to admit I know this I think the character you're referring
to as having died in a car crash was Shula's previous fiance (am I right??)

Simon was the git who tried to throw the Grundy's of their farm beat up both
Shula and I think Elizabeth and would have truly deserved something much
worse than a car crash.

Kathryn
(not an Archer's fan honest, victim of passive Archers - like passive
smoking, my mum's a fan) :)


Jerri LaPoint

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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I don't think people are intentionally perpetuating the subject header that
PW died, but it's happening. Come on folks. We don't need this crap taking
on an immortality all its own.
Jerri

Neila Dandy

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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Had to change the subject header.

What is this show Archers?

Alien

Jette Goldie

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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Neila Dandy wrote in message <01bd5460$1cb59de0$0ef8aecc@ndandy>...


>Had to change the subject header.
>
>What is this show Archers?
>

A long running radio drama that Peter Wingfield used to be in. He played a
nasty sort.

Jette Goldie (Joe's my jo!) boss...@ednet.co.uk
(Married, not Dead!) :-))) Jettamis of the hetskeeters
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Jenu

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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In article <01bd5460$1cb59de0$0ef8aecc@ndandy>, "Neila Dandy"
<nda...@direct.ca> writes:

>Had to change the subject header.
>
>What is this show Archers?
>

>Alien
>

Archers is a radio show running in the UK in which PW had a role as a much
loathed character. :-)


Jen
~*~
Crime doesn't pay... does that mean my job is a crime? ;P

vinc...@ix.netcom.com

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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JSP/RGH wrote:
> I CAN say it quite frankly because I have lived through it. NUMEROUS
> times. I came from a small close-knit community, and knew my kin up to
> even 4th cousins. I can not even begin to count how many relatives,
> classmates, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, students, fellow
> churchgoers, beloved pets, etc., have died before their time, either by
> cancer, heart attack or accident. Each time it is a loss. And each time
> it hurts. And there is not one damned thing that you can do to bring
> them back. It is a fact of life that people die. But you DO live on.
> And you STILL have to go to work the next day. So just learn to accept
> it.
>
> So my reaction to the whole situation here was: "He's ALIVE?!?! THANK
> GOD it was a JOKE!!!! Happy Happy Joy Joy!!!!" This is why I find it
> very hard to believe that y'all are taking this so seriously and jumping
> on Marcus like a pack of vultures.


Well I appreciate that at least someone doesn't want to rip my throat
out with a jagged beer bottles.At least everyone is not mean in this NG
Thankyou JPS :)

Marc

Sheila Schnorr

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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JSP/RGH wrote:

> Jette Goldie wrote:
> > You are going to have do more than say sorry in this perfunctary way.
> > As it happens two days ago a good friend of mine died. She was only 51.
> > Two years ago my Grandfather, Mother and Grandmother died. My cat died.

> > Last year my best friend's mother died, my other friend's father died.


> another friend's husband died. Two of my neighbours died.
> >

> **snip**
> > Jette Goldie
>
>
> **snipping this jerk's rudeness**
>
> JSP

Jette,

Your original post was gone off my server or I would have replied there. I only
hope you can ignore this monstrous little troll's comments as much as possible.
I'm just jumping in to say that those of us who have experienced real loss DO
understand your pain. (My dad, in 1971, was only 58. My big sister, in 1981,
was only 37, and so on... ) And yes, as an animal lover, the losses of my cat
and a couple of dogs over the years were as painful in their way as the loss of
my human family members. a simple "I'm sorry" is never adequate for a loss, but
I just want you to know that I do care and I'm sending a VR hug your way.

Sheila


Jette Goldie

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Mar 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/22/98
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Sheila Schnorr wrote in message <351429C3...@centuryinter.net>...
>

>Your original post was gone off my server or I would have replied there. I
only
>hope you can ignore this monstrous little troll's comments as much as
possible.
>I'm just jumping in to say that those of us who have experienced real loss
DO
>understand your pain. (My dad, in 1971, was only 58. My big sister, in
1981,
>was only 37, and so on... ) And yes, as an animal lover, the losses of my
cat
>and a couple of dogs over the years were as painful in their way as the
loss of
>my human family members. a simple "I'm sorry" is never adequate for a
loss, but
>I just want you to know that I do care and I'm sending a VR hug your way.
>

Sheila, Marcus apologised by private e-mail and seemed sincere, so I have
decided that he is just a little over-eager in his joke; maybe a little
young. I've *forgiven* him (but I don't forget).

JSP on the other hand, claims to have suffered losses himself. Seems to me
he learnt nothing from them, certainly not how to empathise with other
people.

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