Where did Duncan REALLY get his sword?
Stacey Brown
I have a question about Duncan's sword. We all know that Duncan uses a
dragon head handled katana that he received from a mortal master while he
was in China (I think). It was about 200 hears ago (around, I believe).
Why in "Free Fall" with Joan Jet does Duncan say he received his sword
400 years ago from a clansman (probably referring to Connor)? I've always
wondered about this? Was this just an over sight?
-- Stacey --
Claire Maier
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Okay. Everybody take notes; there will be a quiz later.
Within Highlander universe explanation:
Duncan fibbed to Felicia. Why? Possibly because swords are usually given
to students by their mentors, and Duncan kind of wanted to drive home what
the sword meant, and not get into some complicated story about a mortal
Samurai. Or maybe he didn't want to tell her something that was so
emotional for him because he didn't trust her.
Real life explanation:
"Free Fall" was one of the first half-dozen episodes filmed, and
Highlander was still getting its sea legs. There are other
inconsistencies in that episode, like Tessa smoking and Tessa and Richie
not getting along. When it was produced, it probably seemed logical to
have a backstory where Connor gave Duncan his sword.
However, the first season producers and directors probably weren't
counting on needing the Duncan getting his sword story later on. So when
the writers felt a need to tell the story of how Duncan got his sword in
season 3, they were up against a stark reality: Christopher Lambert
wasn't going to be back as Connor, because he didn't want to do TV.
Since they couldn't get Lambert, and re-casting Connor would be a big
mistake, the sword story would have to be without him. And they weren't
about to ditch a great story merely to satisfy a single line of dialog
that was uttered two years before. Characters can lie, after all.
However, the writers did remain as true to the dialog as their
circumstances allowed. Duncan tells Felicia, "This sword and I have
survived for 400 years," right before he said it was given to him by an
immortal clansman. And the writers made the sword be the same age as
Duncan. When the almost 200 year old Duncan was admiring Hideo's sword,
Hideo tells him, "It is almost 200 years old."
So no, it wasn't carelessness, or lack of continuity. It was a creative
decision that a great story like "The Samurai" was worth contradicting a
single line of two-year-old dialog.
Jeffery Watkins
evidently, they decided to change it to the story involving Hideo Kyoto
in Japan. Historically, this would be during the Tokugawa Shogunate which
had a very dim view of westerners. Japan would remain closed to
westerners until Commodore Matthew Perry sort of forced his way in.
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Barbara J. Nelson
>
> Howdy all!!
>
> I have a question about Duncan's sword. We all know that Duncan uses a
> dragon head handled katana that he received from a mortal master while he
> was in China (I think). It was about 200 hears ago (around, I believe).
> Why in "Free Fall" with Joan Jet does Duncan say he received his sword
> 400 years ago from a clansman (probably referring to Connor)? I've always
> wondered about this? Was this just an over sight?
>
I read somewhere (I think the AOL interviews with AP) that the writers
now say that Duncan lied to Felicia because he didn't trust her. Of
course that doesn't make any sense but it's just the writers way of
covering their screw up/change of plans.
Errr.... ummm..... he lied.... yaa, that's the ticket....
BJ :)
Banzai88
(Stacey Brown) writes:
>I have a question about Duncan's sword. We all know that Duncan uses a
>dragon head handled katana that he received from a mortal master while he
>was in China (I think). It was about 200 hears ago (around, I believe).
>Why in "Free Fall" with Joan Jet does Duncan say he received his sword
>400 years ago from a clansman (probably referring to Connor)? I've
always
>wondered about this? Was this just an over sight?
Eep! Not again! <g>
In 'Free Fall' he did say that.
But Christophe Lambert aint coming back as Connor for us to see that
stories so TPTB came up with "The Samurai" where Duncan is shipwrecked in
Japan, and gets it there.
Not an oversight, just a decsion by TPTB that one good hour-long show was
worth contradicting one little line of dialogue from years before.
I think they were right, I really liked "The Samurai."
Chris
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In article <31D37B...@airmail.net> "Barbara J. Nelson" <bne...@airmail.net> writes:
>
>I read somewhere (I think the AOL interviews with AP) that the writers
>now say that Duncan lied to Felicia because he didn't trust her. Of
>course that doesn't make any sense but it's just the writers way of
>covering their screw up/change of plans.
Neither AP nor the writers have addressed this question. Some fans have
postulated that 'he lied to Felicia' covers the case. If you like it, use
it... but it's not an 'official' position.
The writers are aware of the contradiction (I think Claire explained the
other day how the faced the choice between slavish consistency to a
throwaway line in the second ep, or doing the story that became "The
Samurai.") but do not explain it. Imho, it can't be satisfactorily
explained, it can only be accepted. It is one of the 'short list' of
irreconcilable YAHI's. Consider it like a typo in a magazine article.
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In the words of Ramirez
"Just accept it Highlander"
or something like that
Jason :)
Andrew J. Welch
Well I haven't seen the episodes in question concerning the stories of
where Duncan got his sword, but I did see an episode of Highlander
right after I watched the first and second movie. Now it sure looked
to me like Duncan's sword is Connor's sword-the sword Connor got from
Ramirez. Has any one else noticed this or am I just more off my rocker
than I thought?
Katherine
Chris
Ok, there are two stories that duncan said him self. One Storie is that conner gave him
the dragon sword. In the first movie conner sword did not have a dragon. Conner got his
sword from the succor naccano from the third movie. The Seconed story is that ducan was
ship-wreak on the japeens land. he was found by a sword maker. the sword maker taught
every thing that he knows about sword fighting. The sword maker was sentences to death
for having an outsider in his house. Befor the killers got to the sword maker's house.
S.M. gave ducan the dragon headed sword.
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Barbara J. Nelson
Well, close - sort of. After Duncan was shipwreck he was found by a Saumurai. The
sword was at that time 200 years old. The Saumurai was sentenced to death for not
killing the outsider (Duncan), but was allow to commit ritual hari kari (suicide)
with Duncan as his second. Duncan vows to protect the Koto family forever and is
bequeathed the dragon head katana which (according to Rysher) is the same one he
uses today.
BJ :) ----------',--{@
Jason Dagle
Andrew J. Welch wrote:
>
> Well I haven't seen the episodes in question concerning the stories of
> where Duncan got his sword, but I did see an episode of Highlander
> right after I watched the first and second movie. Now it sure looked
> to me like Duncan's sword is Connor's sword-the sword Connor got from
> Ramirez. Has any one else noticed this or am I just more off my rocker
> than I thought?
> Katherine
on one of the swords is longer. This is because one hilt is done in a
Chinese style and the other is done in a Japanese style. Each style
producing a different look to the dragon's head. Which one is which I
don't remember. But I think Duncan's is the one with the longer head.
i think that is correct because I liked Connor's better than Duncan's
since the head was shorter.
Jason :)
"Just accept it Highlander!" -Ramirez
ChadH79
Did Conner get his sword from Ramirez? In HL3 it showed him getting his
sword from Mako. Also in the first episode Conner had a silver braid
tsuka, not the one he had in the movies. So did Conner give his sword to
Duncan. or did Duncan get it from the Samurai who told him he could keep
his sword after he assisted him in ritual suicide? In "Free Fall" Duncan
told Felicia Martins he had gotten his sword from a clansmen. Anyone Know?
Brandon Storm
Chris wrote:
>
> Andrew J. Welch wrote:
> >
> > Well I haven't seen the episodes in question concerning the stories of
> > where Duncan got his sword, but I did see an episode of Highlander
> > right after I watched the first and second movie. Now it sure looked
> > to me like Duncan's sword is Connor's sword-the sword Connor got from
> > Ramirez. Has any one else noticed this or am I just more off my rocker
> > than I thought?
> > Katherine
>
> the dragon sword. In the first movie conner sword did not have a dragon. Conner got his
> sword from the succor naccano from the third movie. The Seconed story is that ducan was
> ship-wreak on the japeens land. he was found by a sword maker. the sword maker taught
> every thing that he knows about sword fighting. The sword maker was sentences to death
> for having an outsider in his house. Befor the killers got to the sword maker's house.
> S.M. gave ducan the dragon headed sword.
>
>
> Christopher
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Uhhhhhh, actually Connor got his sword from Ramirez ( you can see it on
his side as he leaves the burning farm ) and not from Nakano. You are
not the first person to say he received it from Nakano, where are you
guys getting that????? You can also see the dragon head during the fight
under the Garden when Connor has to retrieve it from under a car.
Duncan got his sword from a samurai (who lived more like a daimyo) named
Hideo. Hideo was sentenced to death because he was harboring a gaijin.
Duncan was the second and helped Hideo perform seppuku. H egot to keep
the sword.
>//////////////////|================================== Brandon Storm
Banzai88
In article <4rvmm3$g...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, cha...@aol.com (ChadH79)
writes:
>Did Conner get his sword from Ramirez? In HL3 it showed him getting his
>sword from Mako.
Yes, Connor took Ramirez' sword.
Nakano never gave Connor a sword, he just made some while Connor was
there.
WPod...@gnn.com
cha...@aol.com (ChadH79) wrote:
>Did Conner get his sword from Ramirez? In HL3 it showed him getting his
>sword from Mako. Also in the first episode Conner had a silver braid
>tsuka, not the one he had in the movies. So did Conner give his sword to
>Duncan. or did Duncan get it from the Samurai who told him he could keep
>his sword after he assisted him in ritual suicide? In "Free Fall" Duncan
>told Felicia Martins he had gotten his sword from a clansmen. Anyone Know?
The sword was indeed given by Ramirez,and not by Nakano,but given the
fact that Nakano knew Ramirez name and made surprisingly similar
blades,he might have been the one who made the original.But then that
would be inconsistant with Ramirez story about Masamune unless the
legendary(and real) swordsmith Masamune was supposed to be Nakano in
this storyline.Which would have been interesting.And just maybe Kane
made his sword after spending time with Nakano before turning on him
and being sent away.Hmmm...
Tony Torres
Since the writers and producers of the show never kept track of anything
in the first season, this is probably one of the biggest oversights
around. The writers only started to keep track of
Duncan's travels and stories for consistancies after the second season
began. This is why there is no time stamps on flashbacks in the first
season.
Tony
Marius Sire o.d.
Brandon Storm <rst...@iquest.net> wrote:
>Chris wrote:
>> Andrew J. Welch wrote:
>> > Well I haven't seen the episodes in question concerning the stories of
>> > where Duncan got his sword, but I did see an episode of Highlander
>> > right after I watched the first and second movie. Now it sure looked
>> > to me like Duncan's sword is Connor's sword-the sword Connor got from
>> > Ramirez. Has any one else noticed this or am I just more off my rocker
>> > than I thought?
>> > Katherine
>> Ok, there are two stories that duncan said him self. One Storie is that conner gave him
>> the dragon sword. In the first movie conner sword did not have a dragon. Conner got his
>> sword from the succor naccano from the third movie. The Seconed story is that ducan was
>> ship-wreak on the japeens land. he was found by a sword maker. the sword maker taught
>> every thing that he knows about sword fighting. The sword maker was sentences to death
>> for having an outsider in his house. Befor the killers got to the sword maker's house.
>> S.M. gave ducan the dragon headed sword.
>> http://w3.one.net/~daveb/
>> mailto:da...@one.net
>> {]
>> <#####################[][/\/\/\/\]
>> {]
>Uhhhhhh, actually Connor got his sword from Ramirez ( you can see it on
>his side as he leaves the burning farm ) and not from Nakano. You are
>not the first person to say he received it from Nakano, where are you
>guys getting that????? You can also see the dragon head during the fight
>under the Garden when Connor has to retrieve it from under a car.
>Duncan got his sword from a samurai (who lived more like a daimyo) named
>Hideo. Hideo was sentenced to death because he was harboring a gaijin.
>Duncan was the second and helped Hideo perform seppuku. H egot to keep
>the sword.
> >//////////////////|================================== Brandon Storm
Except for one thing... In a Highlander episode, Duncan said he got
his sword from Connor. I can't remember which episode it was, but it
was one from the first series when Duncan was teaching this one girl
that used Ritchie to get at Duncan.
Duncan gave a sword made by the samuri to this girl, and said it was
the best sword ever made. When she asked why he didn't use it, he
said that he was attached to his katana, which was given to him by
another immortal of his same clan. So in other words, Duncan is using
Connor's sword.
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Bomber
WPod...@gnn.com wrote:
>cha...@aol.com (ChadH79) wrote:
>
>>Did Conner get his sword from Ramirez? In HL3 it showed him getting his
>>sword from Mako. Also in the first episode Conner had a silver braid
>>tsuka, not the one he had in the movies. So did Conner give his sword
to
>>Duncan. or did Duncan get it from the Samurai who told him he could keep
>>his sword after he assisted him in ritual suicide? In "Free Fall" Duncan
>>told Felicia Martins he had gotten his sword from a clansmen. Anyone Know?
Duncan _did_ get his sword from the samurai, Hideo Koto. The third
season episode, "The Samurai" leaves no question about this. The
simplest explanation is that Duncan lied to Felicia, because perhaps he
didn't trust her, and didn't want to reveal certain parts of his past to
her.
Of course, the real explanation is that "Free Fall" was made before "The
Samurai", and they wanted to make a connection between Connor and Duncan.
Then, when they figured out that Christopher Lambert didn't want to
return to the series at all, and they wanted to do a story about the
origin of the sword... well... they conveniently forgot about what Duncan
said to Felicia. It happens... it's called a YAHI (Yet Another
Highlander Inconsistency).
>The sword was indeed given by Ramirez,and not by Nakano,but given the
>fact that Nakano knew Ramirez name and made surprisingly similar
>blades,he might have been the one who made the original.But then that
>would be inconsistant with Ramirez story about Masamune unless the
>legendary(and real) swordsmith Masamune was supposed to be Nakano in
>this storyline.Which would have been interesting.And just maybe Kane
>made his sword after spending time with Nakano before turning on him
>and being sent away.Hmmm...
>
One thing though, is that there is no possible way that Highlander's
Masamune and the real Masamune are the same, unless he was an immortal.
Ramirez's blade was made in 500's BC (not going to look up the exact date
right now... I'm tired :) maybe 573 BC?). The real Masamune lived early
in this millenium (someone with more knowledge about him can fill in the
details). I would think that maybe Nakano (in the strange parallel
universe where HL3 counts :) ) was a student of Ramirez's Masamune, and
possibly a friend of Ramirez then. Maybe Ramirez even tought Nakano
about the rules?
Earlier versions of the script for the first movie give the name Kamakura
as the sword maker who made Ramirez's sword.
(http://info.pitt.edu/~mmnst8/docs/hl1scrpt.txt).
Matt
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ChadH79
Tsuka----------Handle
Mekugi--------Retaining peg
Tsuba----------guard (quillon)
Habaki---------Blade fitting
Kiriha-----------Thin blade fitting
saya------------Scabbard
Ha---------------Blade
Kissaki--------point of blade
Yakiba---------Temper line
These are the parts of the Katana most frequently discussed.
I just thought that some of you would want to know this if you don't
already.
ChadH79
"We know what we are, but know not what we may be." Shakespeare
Christopher Lau
ChadH79 (cha...@aol.com) wrote:
: Tsuka----------Handle
: Mekugi--------Retaining peg
: Tsuba----------guard (quillon)
: Habaki---------Blade fitting
The habaki is the friction sleeve around the base of the blade used to hold
the sword inside the scabbard
: Kiriha-----------Thin blade fitting
Kiriha would literally mean "cutting edge", I'm not sure what you're
trying to refer to here.. If you're referring to the small knife and
skewer that some swords have in the scabbard, the knife is called
kozuka, and the skewer in the other side is the kogai. The only other
similar word is kashira, which is the butt-cap on the hilt (none of the
Highlander swords have kashira, they have a carved head of a dragon
instead). The complementary fitting to the kashira is the fuchi, which
is the collar on the top of the hilt, immediately under the guard.
: saya------------Scabbard
: Ha---------------Blade
Ha is the term for the edge, not the entire blade.
: Kissaki--------point of blade
: Yakiba---------Temper line
Yakiba is the hardened edge, the hamon is the temper line, boshi is the
temper line on the kissaki. None of these really apply to replica swords
because they don't have a differentially hardened edge and the temper
lines are all cosmetic.
: These are the parts of the Katana most frequently discussed.
: I just thought that some of you would want to know this if you don't
: already.
Check http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~jgates/sword/term.html for a pretty
good list of other terminology. There is also a great deal of other
Japanese sword related material here.
: ChadH79
: "We know what we are, but know not what we may be." Shakespeare
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Claire Maier
Marius Sire o.d. (br...@fiber.net) wrote:
:
: Except for one thing... In a Highlander episode, Duncan said he got
: his sword from Connor. I can't remember which episode it was, but it
: was one from the first series when Duncan was teaching this one girl
: that used Ritchie to get at Duncan.
:
: Duncan gave a sword made by the samuri to this girl, and said it was
: the best sword ever made. When she asked why he didn't use it, he
: said that he was attached to his katana, which was given to him by
: another immortal of his same clan. So in other words, Duncan is using
: Connor's sword.
You missed "The Samurai," which shows how Duncan got his sword from a
Japanese Samurai in 1778. Apparently he was being less than truthful
with Felicia.
In any case, even if Connor gave him a sword, it doesn't mean it was the
one he was using. Duncan gave Richie a sword, but it wasn't his katana.
Claire Maier
Tony Torres (tto...@csgflorida.com) wrote:
: Since the writers and producers of the show never kept track of anything
I don't think it's fair to say they didn't keep track of anything. They
did keep track of a number of things-- there are references to events in
previous episodes during the first season, and they were even consistent
in showing how LeBrun's arm gradually healed from his injury.
They started an in-office timeline during the second season, but Duncan
wasn't in two places at once during the first season in any case.
Also, with the exception of "Legacy," they didn't super the dates of the
flashbacks until the third season.
ChadH79
Ok here is a theory, Conner got his sword from Ramirez, he then gets
another one from Nakano that he gives to Duncan, maybe, maybe not. Then
again in the first episode Conner had a Katana with a silver braided tsuka
instead of his Katana from the movies this could mean that he did give his
sword to Duncan, or that he has to swords and he just pulls out Ramirez's
sword on special occasions.
ChadH79
Yes, exactly the point I have been trying to prove. I "Free Fall" Duncan
told Felicia Martins (Joan Jett--I love rock and roll) that his sword was
given to him by a clansmen 400 years ago.
Claire Maier
ChadH79 (cha...@aol.com) wrote:
: Yes, exactly the point I have been trying to prove. I "Free Fall" Duncan
: told Felicia Martins (Joan Jett--I love rock and roll) that his sword was
: given to him by a clansmen 400 years ago.
He lied. And he didn't say that the sword was given to him 400 years
ago. What he said was, "This sword and I have survived for 400 years."
That is true-- Duncan and his sword are about the same age.
Duncan's sword was made by the Japanese swordsmith Masahiro and given to
him by Hideo Koto in 1778. See the episode "The Samurai." Also, note
that Duncan does not have the katana in flashbacks any time prior to that
date.
Banzai88
In article <4s336l$p...@optical.fiber.net>, br...@fiber.net (Marius Sire
o.d.) writes:
>Except for one thing... In a Highlander episode, Duncan said he got
>his sword from Connor. I can't remember which episode it was, but it
>was one from the first series when Duncan was teaching this one girl
>that used Ritchie to get at Duncan.
>
>Duncan gave a sword made by the samuri to this girl, and said it was
>the best sword ever made. When she asked why he didn't use it, he
>said that he was attached to his katana, which was given to him by
>another immortal of his same clan. So in other words, Duncan is using
>Connor's sword.
I know this has been gone over recently.
"Freefall" - Duncan mentions he got his sword from a clansmen. One line.
"The Samurai" - the flashbacks show him shipwrecked in Japan in 1778.
(I've got the exact date around here somewhere). This shows he received
his sword from Hideo Koto, like was explained in the message you quoted.
I'm not sure why Connor didn't have his katana in "The Gathering" (other
than the obvious, they didn't have a replica handy and weren't going to
make one for a one time appearance). As far as my suspension of disbelief
is concerned, Connor *did* have it in the pilot, and Duncan never
mentioned it to Felicia.
Daniel J. Fort
bioa...@larry.cc.emory.edu (Claire Maier) wrote:
>Marius Sire o.d. (br...@fiber.net) wrote:
>:
>: Except for one thing... In a Highlander episode, Duncan said he got
>: his sword from Connor. I can't remember which episode it was, but it
>: was one from the first series when Duncan was teaching this one girl
>: that used Ritchie to get at Duncan.
>:
>: Duncan gave a sword made by the samuri to this girl, and said it was
>: the best sword ever made. When she asked why he didn't use it, he
>: said that he was attached to his katana, which was given to him by
>: another immortal of his same clan. So in other words, Duncan is using
>: Connor's sword.
>You missed "The Samurai," which shows how Duncan got his sword from a
>Japanese Samurai in 1778. Apparently he was being less than truthful
>with Felicia.
>In any case, even if Connor gave him a sword, it doesn't mean it was the
>one he was using. Duncan gave Richie a sword, but it wasn't his katana.
I'm a newbie to this group, but I have been a fan for quite some time,
and I think that in this particular case, there is an inconsistency.
In the episode "Free Fall,"
Felicia asks, (referring to the sword Duncan gave her): "If this
sword was made by the greatest craftsman that ever lived, how come
your not using it?"
Duncan replies, looking at his sword: "This sword and I have survived
for four hundred years, it was given to me by another Immortal, a
clansman."
Although he doesn't mention the name, it seems apparent that the sword
was a gift from Connor. We also know that this is not the same sword
that Connor uses from watching "The Gathering."
The inconsistancy therefore is in the episode "The Samurai." Here we
are told that the Katana Duncan uses belonged to Hideo Koto, a mortal
who befriended Duncan in 1778.
I am of the belief that this inconsistancy was not intentional, just
the expected result of having several different writers and directors
working on a series. Overall, it does not effect the storyline or
that fact that this show is one of the best on TV today.
D. Fort
Claire Maier
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Daniel J. Fort (df...@aloha.net) wrote:
:
: The inconsistancy therefore is in the episode "The Samurai." Here we
: are told that the Katana Duncan uses belonged to Hideo Koto, a mortal
: who befriended Duncan in 1778.
:
: I am of the belief that this inconsistancy was not intentional, just
: the expected result of having several different writers and directors
: working on a series. Overall, it does not effect the storyline or
: that fact that this show is one of the best on TV today.
Well, not exactly. Even though the writers on "The Samurai" were
different people than the ones on "Free Fall," Bill Panzer was still the
one responsible for the final product in both cases.
The writers of "The Samurai" were *very* aware of what was said in "Free
Fall." So much so that they made Duncan's other sentence in that
utterance true. Duncan said, "This sword and I have survived for 400
years" in "Free Fall," and in "The Samurai," we learn that Duncan and the
sword are the same age.
However, there was no way that they could get Christopher Lambert back
again, and they felt that it was worth contradicting a single line of two
year old dialog to tell a great story.
Velia Tanner and Friends
In article <4ssgdv$b...@curly.cc.emory.edu> bioa...@curly.cc.emory.edu (Claire Maier) writes:
>
>The writers of "The Samurai" were *very* aware of what was said in "Free
>Fall."
Claire is so modest. She doesn't mention the fact that she's the one who
warned them to check out "Free Fall" before they tried to do a 'where did
Duncan get his sword' story.
:-)
Velia Tanner and Friends
In article <31F7CA...@airmail.net> jha...@airmail.net writes:
>OK Velia, I guess that I have been lurking long enough.<g>
>I am fully aware of the wonderfully accurate and detailed information
>which Claire contributes to this group but do you really mean that the
>show consults her about plot points? WOW <vbg>
She's been friends with one of the writing stafff since way back when the
best Highlander chat was 12 girls on GEnie (they've since moved the fun over
to AOL), and they have great respect for her frighteningly encyclopedic
memory.
Hope I'm not making her blush!