Adrian Paul should be the new James Bond
ron...@pyramid.com
It's ano brainer. AP would be the perfect James Bond. He is infinitely
more belieavable as the world class badass Bond is supposed to be than
Pierce Brosnan could ever be. He has much of Sean Connery's roguishness
and it just works. I don't see why the Bond folks haven't beaten his
door down. I hated "Goldeneye" and have pretty much hated every Bond flick
since "The Spy Who Loved Me." I liked the young Roger Moore but once he
got old he became a charicature of himself. I always loved Connery... AP
remind me of him!
Ronnie T.
official launcher of the AP for Bond campaign!!!
MF006
No way. While I like AP in Highlander, he just doesn't have the class to
be Bond. James Bond has always been portrayed as a kind of high-class
gentleman of the world. AP is too "blue collar" for the Bond role.
Anyway, in England accents are important and Bond is a Cambridge graduate.
No one with AP's accent could be mistaken for that.
Mark
NORA 12326
Absolutely!!! I have been saying that for ever!
StarrrSong
Yes!!!!!!!!! Absolutely! The NEW young JB is what the movie world needs...
and not only is APaul a fabulous contender for that position.. he's the
prettiest, most masculine, and classiest one for the role!......
(swoon)...just think.... a James Bond who is MAJOR into martial arts....
Steve & Susann Self
I THINK ADRIAN PAUL WOULD MAKE A PERFECT JAMES BOND, CERTAINLY BETTER THAN
ANY SINCE SEAN CONNERY. AS FOR 'ACTING' AS A CAMBRIDGE GRAD OR SPEAKING
IN A 'BOND' ACCENT, THAT IS WHAT ACTING IS.
ADRIAN PAUL PLAYS HIS PART AS THE HIGHLANDER. ITHINK HE COULD CERTAINLY
UNDERTAKE A BOND ROLL. AFTER ALL, IF YOU CAN 'CONVINCE' FOLKS YOU ARE
IMMORTAL, THEN YOU CAN CERTAINLY PULL OFF THE VERY 'MORTAL', JAMES
BOND......
Susann Heidrich Ph.D.
Claire Maier
MF006 (mf...@aol.com) wrote:
: No way. While I like AP in Highlander, he just doesn't have the class to
: be Bond. James Bond has always been portrayed as a kind of high-class
: gentleman of the world. AP is too "blue collar" for the Bond role.
:
: Anyway, in England accents are important and Bond is a Cambridge graduate.
: No one with AP's accent could be mistaken for that.
Adrian is an *actor.* Whether or not he comes from a blue collar
background or not isn't important. What's important is whether he can
portray someone who doesn't. I think he's certainly a good enough actor
to do that.
Also, Adrian is quite good with accents and is capable of using a more
upper class one than he was raised with.
MF006
IT'S ONE THING TO PLAY AN IMMORTAL (WHICH JUST REQUIRES THAT AN ACTOR ACT
"WORLD WEARY") AN ANOTHER TO ACTUALLY CARRY ONESELF WITH GRACE AND STYLE.
ONE EITHER HAS IT OR NOT. THE BOND ROLE IS ONE THAT SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES
THIS. THAT'S WHY GEORGE LAZENBY ONLY DID ONE BOND MOVIE.
BY THE WAY, WHY ARE WE WRITING IN CAPITAL LETTERS? IS THIS AN ARGUMENT?
Mark Frederick, M.A (You win in the educational title race).
AZPUBLISH
Don't think Sean Connery was a Cambidge grad. But I hear that Hollywood
casting is looking for someone to play "Captain Blood." AP would be
perfect in that role! A great swashbuckling hero!
Barbara J. Nelson
MF006 wrote:
>
> No way. While I like AP in Highlander, he just doesn't have the class to
> be Bond. James Bond has always been portrayed as a kind of high-class
> gentleman of the world. AP is too "blue collar" for the Bond role.
>
> Anyway, in England accents are important and Bond is a Cambridge graduate.
> No one with AP's accent could be mistaken for that.
>
"...doesn't have the class..."????? AP would make the greatest James
Bond ever!!!! He has the looks, the personality, and definately plays
the sophisticated tuxedoed man of class *very* well!!! Also, I think
his acting and ability with accents are more than up to the task!
BJ :) ------',--{@
The Watcher
ron...@pyramid.com (ron...@pyramid.com) wrote:
: It's ano brainer. AP would be the perfect James Bond. He is infinitely
: Pierce Brosnan could ever be. He has much of Sean Connery's roguishness
: and it just works. I don't see why the Bond folks haven't beaten his
WHAT!!! I'm sorry, maybe I misread that statement. Nope, I actually saw
someone write, AP should be James Bond.
Sorry, but being a Bond enthuasiast, read the novels (ex. the John Gardner
ones), and seen all the movies, and AP couldn't hold Bond's holster. The point
of the James Bond character is supposed to be an ordinary man who has some
talents that often come in handy. I know that sounds like a dumb statment, but
allow me to explain it.
James Bond is not great at any one thing ('cept for maybe getting pretty
women into the sack). He's not a great fighter (he gets beat up often), he
isn't a Macgyver-- ie, can't mix chemicals and diffuse bombs with milk and
plastic, and has no special skills that make him any better than most.
Bond, armed only with his biting wit and quick mind, finds that his knowledge
of the human being, sometimes pinpoint shooting, and average strength, along
with the stupidity of his foes (don't they always tell him the whole plan way
too soon?), allows Bond to save the day.
AP is too athletic, too good of a fighter (also having martial arts skill
that Bond never gained) and IMHO, not suave enough to be Bond. Don't get me
wrong, AP is a fine actor, I can't get enough of watching him in good
roles. He just isn't Bond.
-D
Claire Maier
The Watcher (de...@bu.edu) wrote:
: WHAT!!! I'm sorry, maybe I misread that statement. Nope, I actually saw
: someone write, AP should be James Bond.
: Sorry, but being a Bond enthuasiast, read the novels (ex. the John Gardner
: ones), and seen all the movies, and AP couldn't hold Bond's holster. The point
: of the James Bond character is supposed to be an ordinary man who has some
: talents that often come in handy. I know that sounds like a dumb statment, but
: allow me to explain it.
: James Bond is not great at any one thing ('cept for maybe getting pretty
: women into the sack). He's not a great fighter (he gets beat up often), he
: isn't a Macgyver-- ie, can't mix chemicals and diffuse bombs with milk and
: plastic, and has no special skills that make him any better than most.
: Bond, armed only with his biting wit and quick mind, finds that his knowledge
: of the human being, sometimes pinpoint shooting, and average strength, along
: with the stupidity of his foes (don't they always tell him the whole plan way
: too soon?), allows Bond to save the day.
: AP is too athletic, too good of a fighter (also having martial arts skill
: that Bond never gained) and IMHO, not suave enough to be Bond. Don't get me
: wrong, AP is a fine actor, I can't get enough of watching him in good
: roles. He just isn't Bond.
Hey guys--
THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT *ACTING.* (Yes, I meant to shout.)
It amazes me that people are saying Adrian can't play Bond because Adrian
Paul, the person, is too unlike James Bond, the character.
Sorry. That doesn't wash at all.
Adrian Paul is an ACTOR. That means that his *job* is to be able to
portray characters that are *DIFFERENT FROM HIMSELF.* A good actor
should be able to play many types of people, and I think Adrian is a good
actor and would do just fine as Bond.
Wendy Chatley Green
bioa...@curly.cc.emory.edu (Claire Maier) wrote:
>Hey guys--
>THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT *ACTING.* (Yes, I meant to shout.)
>It amazes me that people are saying Adrian can't play Bond because Adrian
>Paul, the person, is too unlike James Bond, the character.
Then, pray tell, can only Christopher Lambert play Connor MacLeod?
--
Wendy Chatley Green -- wcg...@cris.com
Barbara J. Nelson
The Watcher wrote:
>
> ron...@pyramid.com (ron...@pyramid.com) wrote:
> : It's ano brainer. AP would be the perfect James Bond. He is infinitely
> : more belieavable as the world class badass Bond is supposed to be than
> : Pierce Brosnan could ever be. He has much of Sean Connery's roguishness
> : and it just works. I don't see why the Bond folks haven't beaten his
>
> someone write, AP should be James Bond.
> Sorry, but being a Bond enthuasiast, read the novels (ex. the John Gardner
> ones), and seen all the movies, and AP couldn't hold Bond's holster. The point
> of the James Bond character is supposed to be an ordinary man who has some
> talents that often come in handy. I know that sounds like a dumb statment, but
> allow me to explain it.
> James Bond is not great at any one thing ('cept for maybe getting pretty
> women into the sack). He's not a great fighter (he gets beat up often), he
> isn't a Macgyver-- ie, can't mix chemicals and diffuse bombs with milk and
> plastic, and has no special skills that make him any better than most.
> Bond, armed only with his biting wit and quick mind, finds that his knowledge
> of the human being, sometimes pinpoint shooting, and average strength, along
> with the stupidity of his foes (don't they always tell him the whole plan way
> too soon?), allows Bond to save the day.
> AP is too athletic, too good of a fighter (also having martial arts skill
> that Bond never gained) and IMHO, not suave enough to be Bond. Don't get me
> wrong, AP is a fine actor, I can't get enough of watching him in good
> roles. He just isn't Bond.
>
Well, I respect your right to your opinion, and it was nicely put. :)
Can't help it though that I completely disagree. I think AP *with* his
athletic physique, strength, and fighting ability would make the
greatest James Bond ever!!!! So what if he's stronger and a better
fighter than others before. People/characters are allowed to grow and
develope. Also, I think AP can be *more* than suave enough!! JMHO :)
cyclops
ron...@pyramid.com (ron...@pyramid.com) wrote:
: It's ano brainer. AP would be the perfect James Bond. He is infinitely
: more belieavable as the world class badass Bond is supposed to be than
Well, I don't know if AP would be the perfect James Bond. One
reason is because he can't act..he overacts in some episodes
and he delivers great lines really bad sometimes. He
does kinda look like Sean Connery, but that's about it. However,
if he takes more acting lessons..then there may be hope that
AP would be a perfect bond. After all, there are excellent
actors out there who used to be lousy actors.
Cyke
Vando/Allen
You know your a highlander addict when you see "JB" and think Jim Byrnes
and not James Bond.
Michelle
Jeri Jo Thomas
So, Connery, Scot that he is, would do better, accent-wise, in
England than Adrian Paul, who was born and raised in London? To this
date Sean Connery hasn't been able to speak in any accent than his
native Scottish, whether as a 2500 year old Egyptian or the last
golden dragon. AP could probably do an upper class English accent as
well as you or I could do and upper class clinch-jawed, American
accent.
Jeri Jo--
Banzai88
>Anyway, in England accents are important and Bond is a Cambridge
graduate.
>No one with AP's accent could be mistaken for that.
And Lord knows we've never heard AP affect different accents for stuff.
Chris
(isn't that where *acting* would come in?)
Alielz
In article <4u3jqf$d...@news.accessone.com>, Vando/Allen
<va...@accessone.com> writes:
I can just see your confusion...
"Wha..why would a young Jim Byrnes be played by Adrian Paul? Why would Jim
Byrnes be a character in a movie?"
Of course this lead me to think of those tv commercials..you know "I'm not
a doctor but I play one on tv"...And I had a flash of Jim Byrnes saying
"I'm not a character, but I play one on tv."
I must be seriously sleep deprived, because that thought just struck me as
incredibly funny. Either that or I'm even more addicted to Highlander than
I thought.
Ali
SJDKAHB roadie
"I've got to live my life the way I feel is right for me,
Might not be right for you but it's right for me."
Elsewhere, Sarah McLachlan
Eugenie MT
>
>No way. While I like AP in Highlander, he just doesn't have the class to
>be Bond. James Bond has always been portrayed as a kind of high-class
>gentleman of the world. AP is too "blue collar" for the Bond role.
>
>Anyway, in England accents are important and Bond is a Cambridge
graduate.
>No one with AP's accent could be mistaken for that.
>
>Mark
>
>
Hi, Mark. Now don't take this the wrong way- but do you watch the show? If
you did you would know that AP often does a Scottish accent in flashbacks.
Why wouldn't he be able to do a Cambridge graduate?? As far as being too
"blue collar" for the Bond role, please clarify.( And if you use DM as an
example, I'll have to remind you that AP *plays* DM. It is a role. Just as
Bond is a role, one which I think AP could play *very* well.)
>
Eric Tsai
As much I like HL as a TV show and AP as an actor, i have to agree with
Mark and say that James Bond is a totally different type of role than that of
Duncan McCleod. For one thing, James Bond has never been a muscle man; he
relies on his dry British wit and ingenuity to get his kiester out of jams.
Also, Bond has more to do with aristocratic style and grace, and it occurs to
me that AP is probably not as practiced with this type of role.
IMHO,DM is just not close enough to James Bond.
Eric.
d w prosser
Banzai88 <banz...@aol.com> wrote:
>In article <4ttv25$d...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, mf...@aol.com (MF006)
>writes:
>>Anyway, in England accents are important and Bond is a Cambridge
>>graduate.
>>No one with AP's accent could be mistaken for that.
>And Lord knows we've never heard AP affect different accents for stuff.
>
>Chris
>(isn't that where *acting* would come in?)
I believe that Pierce Brosnan was born and raised in a poor
predominantly Irish neighborhood of London; he seems to be able to pull
off the upper-crusty accent okay.
dp
(personally, my favorite James Bond was Woody Allen. [in _Casino_Royale_].)
--
_-_-_-_-dp : d w prosser : pro...@cs.umass.edu-_-_-_-_
. this must be what it's like to be a COLLEGE GRADUATE!!
MF006
Yes, AP is an ACTOR but he just doesn't have the physical characteristics
to play 007. He is too athletic and tall whereas Bond is always rather
slender and not too muscular. Plus, AP's fighting moves are way too
grounded in eastern martial arts and I don't think Bond spent 10 years of
his life practicing White Eyebrow Kung Fu!
Mark\
Barbara Lee
In article <3205D4...@umich.edu>, Eric Tsai <eri...@umich.edu> wrote:
> MF006 wrote:
> > IT'S ONE THING TO PLAY AN IMMORTAL (WHICH JUST REQUIRES THAT AN ACTOR ACT
> > "WORLD WEARY") AN ANOTHER TO ACTUALLY CARRY ONESELF WITH GRACE AND STYLE.
> > ONE EITHER HAS IT OR NOT. THE BOND ROLE IS ONE THAT SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES
> > THIS. THAT'S WHY GEORGE LAZENBY ONLY DID ONE BOND MOVIE.
> >
> > BY THE WAY, WHY ARE WE WRITING IN CAPITAL LETTERS? IS THIS AN ARGUMENT?
>
> Mark and say that James Bond is a totally different type of role than that of
> Duncan McCleod. For one thing, James Bond has never been a muscle man; he
> relies on his dry British wit and ingenuity to get his kiester out of jams.
> Also, Bond has more to do with aristocratic style and grace, and it occurs to
> me that AP is probably not as practiced with this type of role.
Dry British wit??? Aristocratic style and grace??? Upper-class
accent???
Hmmmmm, what did ole Fleming say about Bond's toes...?
;-)
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Claire Maier
MF006 (mf...@aol.com) wrote:
: Yes, AP is an ACTOR but he just doesn't have the physical characteristics
AP isn't that tall-- just 6'0". And as far as athletic goes, Sean
Connery was an athlete! And AP is capable of other fighting movies.
I think AP has the physical characteristics needed.
Ellen B. Layendecker
A remake of Captain Blood would be awesome! AP would make a wonderful Peter
Blood.
IMHO,
Ellen
Hamish
In article <320426...@airmail.net>, bne...@airmail.net says...
>
>MF006 wrote:
>>
>> No way. While I like AP in Highlander, he just doesn't have the class
to
>> be Bond. James Bond has always been portrayed as a kind of high-class
>> gentleman of the world. AP is too "blue collar" for the Bond role.
>>
graduate.
>> No one with AP's accent could be mistaken for that.
>>
>
>
>"...doesn't have the class..."????? AP would make the greatest James
>Bond ever!!!! He has the looks, the personality, and definately plays
>the sophisticated tuxedoed man of class *very* well!!! Also, I think
>his acting and ability with accents are more than up to the task!
>
AP's accent on HL is put on 'cos' he's supposed to be a Scot, though
admittedly one who's been living amongst other people for 400 years and
thus losing his accent. I'm not too sure, however, that his ability with
accents is as good as BJ makes out because although I said that his
accent is supposedly Scottish, supposedly *is* the operative word. His
accent is nothing like that of any self respecting Scot that I've heard,
which is quite a lot because I'm Scottish.
However, I completely agree with BJ that AP has the neccessary class,
looks, personality, etc. Or rather, that DM has those, and therefore, AP
is quite capable of portraying them. As for the accent, Cambridge is
dead easy to learn - just listen to the BBC a couple of times and you'll
be half way there. I'm sure AP is quite capable of learning it. You
should be glad it's not an Oxford accent that Bond has. And, BTW, I
object to Mark's comment that accents are important in England - this is
generally true the world over, not just in England. For example, there
are masses of different accents in Scotland, it's just non-Scots can't
here the difference. I can't here the difference in American accents,
but I'm sure they exist.
Hamish
FrizbeeDog
I'm with you , Claire. AP would be a wonderful Bond.
Regarding Sean Connery: how can you get a title in Body Building with no
muscle? I think Sean is *far* more athletic than you're giving him
credit for.
Friz
Jeri Jo Thomas
<<Well, I don't know if AP would be the perfect James Bond. One
reason is because he can't act..he overacts in some episodes
and he delivers great lines really bad sometimes. He
does kinda look like Sean Connery, but that's about it. However,
if he takes more acting lessons..then there may be hope that
AP would be a perfect bond. After all, there are excellent
actors out there who used to be lousy actors.>>
And we are all, of course, entitled to our opinions.
Jeri Jo--
The Watcher
: THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT *ACTING.* (Yes, I meant to shout.)
: It amazes me that people are saying Adrian can't play Bond because Adrian
: Paul, the person, is too unlike James Bond, the character.
: Sorry. That doesn't wash at all.
: Adrian Paul is an ACTOR. That means that his *job* is to be able to
: portray characters that are *DIFFERENT FROM HIMSELF.* A good actor
: should be able to play many types of people, and I think Adrian is a good
: actor and would do just fine as Bond.
The point that maybe was missed is not that AP *couldn't* play James Bond,
the producers *can* put any actor (ie, Cruise, Pitt, Moore-- hell, even George
Lazenby got to be Bond for one flick).
There are just some actors who cannot pull off certain rolls. Let me equate
the scenario for sports for a moment (blah for most, but I think everyone can
get this one). A basketball coach can put any 5 guys on the court he wants to,
but you wouldn't ever make Dennis Rodman your point guard, or Shaquille O'Neal
your small forward (someone who is a good outside shooter).
What made Roger Moore (the first few films) and Sean Connery good Bonds was
that them seemed to be average enough. Neither was built like a brick wall,
neither fought like Sugar Ray, and neither had the brains of Albert
Einstein. Ok, so Bond never lost at Baquarate (or however you spell it), and
he always got the beautiful girls, but that's what spies do.
AP doesn't fit into the Bond mold is what I'm saying. James Bond is a
commander in Her Majesty's Royal Navy (officially) and some sort of a
low-level bureaucrat (read the novels, he even spends some time at his
official job). Nowhere in the Bond past did he study martial arts, he doesn't
spend hours at the gym building his body, and all that long hair would just
have to go (the last part was a joke, ;> ).
Have I made my original statements any clearer?
-D
Asif Chowdhury
If we're talking Accents, then why don't we get Patrick
Stewart to play the next James Bond, he certain has the best
English accent I've heard in a while. (cynnicism)
- Asif -
Asif Chowdhury
Oh here we go again with that Pierson character ;)
IMHO AP looks a lot like young Sean Connery, in fact
at first, when I first saw a glimpse of the show
(3 years ago Sunday night 11:00pm on Channel 20)
I thought it was an old Sean Connery film before
I realized it wasn't. I have to aggree however
that AP's character thusfar have been somewhat rough,
and more brutish than a Bond character, however maybe
he'd be a perfect Counterpart to MI6.
- Asif -
Eric Tsai
The Watcher wrote:
>
> The point that maybe was missed is not that AP *couldn't* play James Bond,
> the producers *can* put any actor (ie, Cruise, Pitt, Moore-- hell, even George
> Lazenby got to be Bond for one flick).
> There are just some actors who cannot pull off certain rolls. Let me equate
> the scenario for sports for a moment (blah for most, but I think everyone can
> get this one). A basketball coach can put any 5 guys on the court he wants to,
> but you wouldn't ever make Dennis Rodman your point guard, or Shaquille O'Neal
> your small forward (someone who is a good outside shooter).
> What made Roger Moore (the first few films) and Sean Connery good Bonds was
> that them seemed to be average enough. Neither was built like a brick wall,
> neither fought like Sugar Ray, and neither had the brains of Albert
> Einstein. Ok, so Bond never lost at Baquarate (or however you spell it), and
> he always got the beautiful girls, but that's what spies do.
> AP doesn't fit into the Bond mold is what I'm saying. James Bond is a
> commander in Her Majesty's Royal Navy (officially) and some sort of a
> low-level bureaucrat (read the novels, he even spends some time at his
> official job). Nowhere in the Bond past did he study martial arts, he doesn't
> spend hours at the gym building his body, and all that long hair would just
> have to go (the last part was a joke, ;> ).
> Have I made my original statements any clearer?
> -D
Actually, Bond studied many forms of martial arts, especially in "You Only Live
Twice", where he became a Ninja (not) in something like two weeks. Every actor
has conformed Bond to their own strengths and ideals, the core of the character
is the very "British"-ness and playboy style. AP as Bond just doesn't seem to
conform to the overall feeling of past Bonds. Maybe it's just DMs lack of
savoir-faire compared to Bonds normal devil-may-care attitude, but I have yet to
see AP in a role that even comes close to my James Bond image. The thing is,
there were a lot of people who were saying that 007 was played out and changes
need to be made; they even considered a Jamie Bond (Sharon Stone). So, maybe AP
could start a new Bond mold, I don't know. Personally, I think Pierce Brosnan,
did an admirable job of trying to go back to a Roger Moore/Sean Connery mix.
The most compelling thing about James Bond is that everybody has their image of
how he is supposed to be; different strokes for different folks.
Peace.
Eric.
Joshua Mostkoff Unger
The Watcher <de...@bu.edu> wrote:
> The point that maybe was missed is not that AP *couldn't* play James
> Bond, the producers *can* put any actor (ie, Cruise, Pitt, Moore--
> hell, even George Lazenby got to be Bond for one flick).
> There are just some actors who cannot pull off certain rolls. Let me
> equate the scenario for sports for a moment (blah for most, but I
> think everyone can get this one). A basketball coach can put any 5
> guys on the court he wants to, but you wouldn't ever make Dennis
> Rodman your point guard, or Shaquille O'Neal your small forward
> (someone who is a good outside shooter).
I once heard Dick Vitale say:
"Yeah, but AP is like Michael Jordan, baby! He can play the point,
shooting guard, or small forward! He can even play power forward if
he has to! Give him the rock! He's awesome with a capital "A"!
My question is:
How do we know AP can't play the part of James Bond (small forward)
just because the only thing we're used to seeing him play is DM (point
guard)?
-Josh
Velia Tanner and Friends
In article <4u7vj8$4...@news.bu.edu> de...@bu.edu (The Watcher) writes:
> AP doesn't fit into the Bond mold is what I'm saying. James Bond is a
>commander in Her Majesty's Royal Navy (officially) and some sort of a
>low-level bureaucrat (read the novels, he even spends some time at his
>official job). Nowhere in the Bond past did he study martial arts, he doesn't
>spend hours at the gym building his body, and all that long hair would just
>have to go (the last part was a joke, ;> ).
Since when are the Bond movies anything like the books? No offense, but
they simply aren't.
Check out the flashback in Return of Amanda for what AP would be like as
Bond. Yum.
As for the hair, he's said publically that he can't *wait* to cut it when HL
is over.
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catcon
Okay folks, as much as it pains me to say this, Barb's right. I love AP, he's the
Coolest, he's the Man, he's a Hero, but . . . Methos T. Freshmaker would make a
wonderful James Bond. PW has a certain style and grace that our darling Highlander
lacks. AP is beautiful to behold and a fine actor, but he's more the John Wayne, guts
and glory type. PW, in my mother's words, is *classy*.
Connie (who is still a serious AP junkie)
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Claire Maier
The Watcher (de...@bu.edu) wrote:
: What made Roger Moore (the first few films) and Sean Connery good Bonds was
: that them seemed to be average enough. Neither was built like a brick wall,
: neither fought like Sugar Ray, and neither had the brains of Albert
: Einstein. Ok, so Bond never lost at Baquarate (or however you spell it), and
: he always got the beautiful girls, but that's what spies do.
You're wrong here. Connery won body building titles.
: AP doesn't fit into the Bond mold is what I'm saying. James Bond is a
: commander in Her Majesty's Royal Navy (officially) and some sort of a
: low-level bureaucrat (read the novels, he even spends some time at his
: official job). Nowhere in the Bond past did he study martial arts, he doesn't
: spend hours at the gym building his body, and all that long hair would just
: have to go (the last part was a joke, ;> ).
AP isn't built like Silvester Stallone or Arnold Schwartzenegger. He's
well-built, but not overly muscular. And I think AP is perfectly capable
of acting like someone who has no martial arts training or is clumsy if
the scene calls for it. Watch the fight between Duncan and Martin Hyde in
the flashback in "Prodigal Son." Duncan was only about 35 years old at
the time, and he certainly didn't look like he'd had any martial arts
training.
: Have I made my original statements any clearer?
Only that you are conveniently forgetting Sean Connery's athletic
background and underestimating Adrian Paul's acting skill.
CJ in LA
Yes!!!! Unfortunately, we can't suggest that to the man who was
responsible for the decisions, Brackley-wasn't it??? If we ever find out
who is now in charge, let's flood him/her with letters!!!
Immortally yours,
Jatona Walker
Jette Goldie
mf...@aol.com (MF006) wrote:
>No way. While I like AP in Highlander, he just doesn't have the class to
>be Bond. James Bond has always been portrayed as a kind of high-class
>gentleman of the world. AP is too "blue collar" for the Bond role.
>Anyway, in England accents are important and Bond is a Cambridge graduate.
>No one with AP's accent could be mistaken for that.
>Mark
Excuse me? James Bond is half Swiss, half Scots (so the books say)
and was expelled from Fettes College, Edinburgh over a peccadillo
<sp?> with a female member of staff.
And dear old Sean Connery, who even Ian Fleming thought made a good
Bond, was from Edinburgh.
Jette
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Jette Goldie
banz...@aol.com (Banzai88) wrote:
>In article <4ttv25$d...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, mf...@aol.com (MF006)
>writes:
>>Anyway, in England accents are important and Bond is a Cambridge
>graduate.
>>No one with AP's accent could be mistaken for that.
>And Lord knows we've never heard AP affect different accents for stuff.
>Chris
>(isn't that where *acting* would come in?)
(giggling crazily) Ooh, boy!! Adrian is ALREADY well spoken. He
certainly doesn't sound like a 'Sawf Lunduner'.
And Sean Connery's accent could never in a month of Sundays be
considered *aristocratic*. (and he, darling man, only has one accent)
Words from the Monastery
In article <Nimue001-050...@barbaralee.ucsc.edu>, Nimu...@aol.com
says...
>Dry British wit??? Aristocratic style and grace??? Upper-class
>accent???
>Hmmmmm, what did ole Fleming say about Bond's toes...?
Not to mention the fact that Bond is based on an American Botanist of the same
name who may or may not have been a spy in the Caribbean during WWII or was it
the beginnings of the Cold War? Either way, doesn't matter ... what's this
bullshit (not you Nimue) about Bond not being skilled? The man's practically a
genius and as good of a detective as Sherlock Holmes.
Monkysquat
In article <4u18sr$l...@news.bu.edu>, de...@bu.edu (The Watcher) writes:
>ron...@pyramid.com (ron...@pyramid.com) wrote:
>: It's ano brainer. AP would be the perfect James Bond. He is infinitely
>: more belieavable as the world class badass Bond is supposed to be than
>: Pierce Brosnan could ever be. He has much of Sean Connery's roguishness
>: and it just works. I don't see why the Bond folks haven't beaten his
>
> WHAT!!! I'm sorry, maybe I misread that statement. Nope, I actually saw
>someone write, AP should be James Bond.
> Sorry, but being a Bond enthuasiast, read the novels (ex. the John
Gardner
>ones), and seen all the movies, and AP couldn't hold Bond's holster. The
>point
>of the James Bond character is supposed to be an ordinary man who has
some
>talents that often come in handy. I know that sounds like a dumb
statment,
>but
>allow me to explain it.
> James Bond is not great at any one thing ('cept for maybe getting pretty
>women into the sack). He's not a great fighter (he gets beat up often),
he
>isn't a Macgyver-- ie, can't mix chemicals and diffuse bombs with milk
and
>plastic, and has no special skills that make him any better than most.
> Bond, armed only with his biting wit and quick mind, finds that his
>knowledge
>of the human being, sometimes pinpoint shooting, and average strength,
along
>with the stupidity of his foes (don't they always tell him the whole plan
way
>too soon?), allows Bond to save the day.
> AP is too athletic, too good of a fighter (also having martial arts
skill
>that Bond never gained) and IMHO, not suave enough to be Bond. Don't get
me
>wrong, AP is a fine actor, I can't get enough of watching him in good
>roles. He just isn't Bond.
I tend to agree, Adrian is a fairly good actor but he just doesn't
have the certain something that makes that character. Peirce
Brosnan does have a quality to him that's perfectly suited to
the role. Not to mention he paid his dues and earned the
role. He deserves the role more than anyone right now.
Maybe when Brosnan leaves the role Adrian could try it.
I still think he'd be wrong for it but I'm willing to see him
do one.
Tim
Monkysquat
In article <4u4cdh$o...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, banz...@aol.com (Banzai88)
writes:
>
>In article <4ttv25$d...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, mf...@aol.com (MF006)
>writes:
>
>>Anyway, in England accents are important and Bond is a Cambridge
>graduate.
>>No one with AP's accent could be mistaken for that.
>
>And Lord knows we've never heard AP affect different accents for stuff.
that's not to say he's all that good at them tho ;)
Well the Scottish accent bugs me to death but the others
are fairly passable.
Tim
Monkysquat
In article <Nimue001-050...@barbaralee.ucsc.edu>,
Nimu...@aol.com (Barbara Lee) writes:
>
>In article <3205D4...@umich.edu>, Eric Tsai <eri...@umich.edu> wrote:
>> MF006 wrote:
>> > IT'S ONE THING TO PLAY AN IMMORTAL (WHICH JUST REQUIRES THAT AN ACTOR
ACT
>> > "WORLD WEARY") AN ANOTHER TO ACTUALLY CARRY ONESELF WITH GRACE AND
STYLE.
>> > ONE EITHER HAS IT OR NOT. THE BOND ROLE IS ONE THAT SPECIFICALLY
REQUIRES
>> > THIS. THAT'S WHY GEORGE LAZENBY ONLY DID ONE BOND MOVIE.
>> >
>> > BY THE WAY, WHY ARE WE WRITING IN CAPITAL LETTERS? IS THIS AN
ARGUMENT?
>>
>> As much I like HL as a TV show and AP as an actor, i have to agree with
>> Mark and say that James Bond is a totally different type of role than
that
>of
>> Duncan McCleod. For one thing, James Bond has never been a muscle man;
he
>> relies on his dry British wit and ingenuity to get his kiester out of
jams.
>> Also, Bond has more to do with aristocratic style and grace, and it
occurs
>to
>> me that AP is probably not as practiced with this type of role.
>
>Dry British wit??? Aristocratic style and grace??? Upper-class
>accent???
>
>Hmmmmm, what did ole Fleming say about Bond's toes...?
>
>;-)
>
>--
>Barb/Nimu...@aol.com ("Toes. Cute Toes.")
Barb this obsession is getting serious, I'm calling in the guys
in the little white coats. There's a nice comfy room waiting
for you with deluxe padded accomodations. Dammit Barb
leave the orderlies toes alone!! What am I gonna do with
you?
Tim "Toe...er Totally at a loss for words"
Monkysquat
In article <4u3371$s...@curly.cc.emory.edu>, bioa...@curly.cc.emory.edu
(Claire Maier) writes:
>Hey guys--
>
>THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT *ACTING.* (Yes, I meant to shout.)
>
>It amazes me that people are saying Adrian can't play Bond because Adrian
>Paul, the person, is too unlike James Bond, the character.
>
>Sorry. That doesn't wash at all.
>
>Adrian Paul is an ACTOR. That means that his *job* is to be able to
>portray characters that are *DIFFERENT FROM HIMSELF.* A good actor
>should be able to play many types of people, and I think Adrian is a good
>actor and would do just fine as Bond.
well he's pretty good but I haven't seen him play a role all that
unlike himself yet. Granted any good actor puts a little
of themselves into a character but for all intents and purposes
Adrian's "roles" seem pretty much to be Adrian to me.
Tim
Susana
In article <Nimue001-050...@barbaralee.ucsc.edu>, Barbara Lee
<Nimu...@aol.com> writes
>In article <3205D4...@umich.edu>, Eric Tsai <eri...@umich.edu> wrote:
>> MF006 wrote:
>> > IT'S ONE THING TO PLAY AN IMMORTAL (WHICH JUST REQUIRES THAT AN ACTOR ACT
>> > "WORLD WEARY") AN ANOTHER TO ACTUALLY CARRY ONESELF WITH GRACE AND STYLE.
>> > ONE EITHER HAS IT OR NOT. THE BOND ROLE IS ONE THAT SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES
>> > THIS. THAT'S WHY GEORGE LAZENBY ONLY DID ONE BOND MOVIE.
>> >
>> > BY THE WAY, WHY ARE WE WRITING IN CAPITAL LETTERS? IS THIS AN ARGUMENT?
>>
>> As much I like HL as a TV show and AP as an actor, i have to agree with
>> Mark and say that James Bond is a totally different type of role than that of
>> Duncan McCleod. For one thing, James Bond has never been a muscle man; he
>> relies on his dry British wit and ingenuity to get his kiester out of jams.
>> Also, Bond has more to do with aristocratic style and grace, and it occurs to
>> me that AP is probably not as practiced with this type of role.
>
>Dry British wit??? Aristocratic style and grace??? Upper-class
>accent???
>
>Hmmmmm, what did ole Fleming say about Bond's toes...?
>
wonderful ancient immie would fit the bill perfectly.
--
Susana
no. 1011 * Life is short.
Eat more pancakes and
fewer rice cakes.
- Life's little instruction book -
AZPUBLISH
Goldeneye was god-awful - couldn't even finish watching it. Bond, the
superspy was a great movie vehicle during the Cold War, but the superagent
is past his prime and did less than expected at the box office. Don't
think even the dapper Brosnan can save him. It's my guess the next Bond
movie will be the last.
Monkysquat
In article <4v8k2s$c...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, azpu...@aol.com
(AZPUBLISH) writes:
That's been said a few times before but the ole boy keeps
coming back :) Actually "Goldeneye" did pretty well
critically and box office wise. I think there's still room
fer ole James Bond at the cineplex.
Tim
Reader57
As much as I love Adrian Paul I can't see him taking the James Bond role
away from
Pierce Brosnan. (Despite what AZPUBLISH says) In my opinion and in the
opinion of many others that I have talked to, Brosnan did a great job.
Apparently the James Bond producers, casting or who ever felt the same way
as this is the second time they asked him to play James Bond. He was cast
to play Bond back when his series was still on the air (Remington Steele)
but the series was renewed and he had to turn down the movie. Now about
10 years (???) later they asked him again. And I am glad!
Reader57
There are only three kinds of people in the world...
Those who can count and those who can't!
Paige Foster
Monkysquat wrote:
>
> In article <4u3371$s...@curly.cc.emory.edu>, bioa...@curly.cc.emory.edu
> (Claire Maier) writes:
>
> >Hey guys--
> >
> >THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT *ACTING.* (Yes, I meant to shout.)
> >
> >It amazes me that people are saying Adrian can't play Bond because Adrian
>
> well he's pretty good but I haven't seen him play a role all that
> unlike himself yet. Granted any good actor puts a little
> of themselves into a character but for all intents and purposes
> Adrian's "roles" seem pretty much to be Adrian to me.
>
> Tim
OMIGOSH - you mean you *know* him? I had no idea!
Paige
"Lord, what fools these mortals be!" - Puck, A Midsummer Night's Dream
Paige Foster
catcon
Yes Paige, Tim knows Adrian. Don't you remember that he was the *butt
double*? And he also was supposed to send us a title and price list of
the other work he's done!
Connie :)
Monkysquat
In article <321B8F...@earthlink.net>, Paige Foster
<morr...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
>Monkysquat wrote:
>>
>> In article <4u3371$s...@curly.cc.emory.edu>, bioa...@curly.cc.emory.edu
>> (Claire Maier) writes:
>>
>> >Hey guys--
>> >
>> >THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT *ACTING.* (Yes, I meant to shout.)
>> >
>> >It amazes me that people are saying Adrian can't play Bond because
Adrian
>> <snip>
>>
>> well he's pretty good but I haven't seen him play a role all that
>> unlike himself yet. Granted any good actor puts a little
>> of themselves into a character but for all intents and purposes
>> Adrian's "roles" seem pretty much to be Adrian to me.
>>
>> Tim
>
>OMIGOSH - you mean you *know* him? I had no idea!
Hey you can't be someones butt double without getting to
know them a little :P
Tim "Gluteus Magnificus"
Jette Goldie
monky...@aol.com (Monkysquat) wrote:
>In article <321B8F...@earthlink.net>, Paige Foster
><morr...@earthlink.net> writes:
>>
>>Monkysquat wrote:
>>>
>>> I
>>OMIGOSH - you mean you *know* him? I had no idea!
>Hey you can't be someones butt double without getting to
>know them a little :P
>Tim "Gluteus Magnificus"
Uh, Tim - I intend to check this claim out in Denver ;-)
Better be ready to prove it.
Monkysquat
In article <32277...@mozart.ednet.co.uk>, boss...@ednet.co.uk (Jette
Goldie) writes:
>
>monky...@aol.com (Monkysquat) wrote:
>
>>In article <321B8F...@earthlink.net>, Paige Foster
>><morr...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
>>>
>>>Monkysquat wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>OMIGOSH - you mean you *know* him? I had no idea!
>
>>Hey you can't be someones butt double without getting to
>>know them a little :P
>
>>Tim "Gluteus Magnificus"
>
>
>Uh, Tim - I intend to check this claim out in Denver ;-)
>Better be ready to prove it.
If I can make it, and it's almost worth the trip just to
see u Jette. I really wanna go and I need a vacation :(
Tim "hoping his butt doesn't hafta go thru the Charmin test"
Kheetah
>monky...@aol.com (Monkysquat) wrote:
>
>>In article <321B8F...@earthlink.net>, Paige Foster
>><morr...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
>>>
>>>Monkysquat wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>OMIGOSH - you mean you *know* him? I had no idea!
>
>>Hey you can't be someones butt double without getting to
>>know them a little :P
>
>>Tim "Gluteus Magnificus"
>
>
>Uh, Tim - I intend to check this claim out in Denver ;-)
>Better be ready to prove it.
>
>
>Jette
>************************************************
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Timmy's in trouble!!! hehehehe ;'P
Monkysquat
In article <50i6bi$4...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, khe...@aol.com (Kheetah)
writes:
When am I ever not in trouble?
Tim "buying a butt master tomorrow and renting butts of steel"
lk.n...@gmail.com
He did what ever it took to get the bad guy.
ln
jesusisth...@gmail.com
Dan in Texas
Aaron Barlow
> No way. While I like AP in Highlander, he just doesn't have the class to
> be Bond. James Bond has always been portrayed as a kind of high-class
> gentleman of the world. AP is too "blue collar" for the Bond role.
> No one with AP's accent could be mistaken for that.
Wow, you are so wrong on every level. AP has the class. You have no idea what AP's accent is, he put one on or Highlander.