More on Redemption and Cassandra Fic
Shomeret
its entirety and it takes too long to delete it,
I'm starting a new thread to respond.
I don't want to import the Methos vs. Cassandra
thread from ATH to ATHC, but the central theme
of Redemption is Methos doing penance for what he
did 3000 years ago. It seems to me that how long
ago it happened isn't what's important. Cassandra
suppressed the memories. They surfaced recently
and she's been reliving them. For her it's yesterday,
not 3000 years ago. She needs to see Methos as
her slave for psychological reasons that have nothing
to do with Christian theology.
I agree that "Redemption" is well done, but there is
another gen story that was recently posted on Seventh
Dimension called "Way of the Witch" by HonorH. This
is a story written from Cassandra's viewpoint. She is
pragmatic, independent minded and definitely not a
victim. Her attitude toward Methos is unexpected to
say the least. Have you read this one. Helga? I put
it on my top ten of HL gen fanfic.
Shomeret
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I fear this way we will start a lot of new threads here...;-)
In article <7jmogh$c4$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Shomeret <Shom...@aol.com> wrote:
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> I don't want to import the Methos vs. Cassandra
> thread from ATH to ATHC,
Nor do I
> but the central theme
> of Redemption is Methos doing penance for what he
> did 3000 years ago.
I know, but I deliberately ignored it. To me, there is no point
in "doing penance". Cassandra may want revenge, okay.
But at the moment you have Methos actually buying into
the concept of penance, it's out of character, IMHO.
So, of course, I liked only parts of the story,
and had to ignore the redemption part to enjoy any of it.
The best story about Methos doing some kind of atonemet
to Cassandra in my view is still Tanja Kinkels "Incubus"
- however you think of the sequels - precisely because
there is no part of punishment concept in it. Methos decides
he owes Cassandra and offers her a way to give her a chance
to get even (with a proposed fight to the death at the end),
but he harbours secretly the idea to give her some
chance to deal with her feelings and come to therms with him.
He don't know what the end will be, but *hopes* that
she at last will not insist on the fight to the death.
But he is *prepared* to face her if she do.
And it works. I liked this storyso much
especially because it has a very good characterization
both about Cassandra *and* Methos, and is not falling into
the concepts of penance and punishment.
I even liked Theresa Coffmanns "Kaddish", althought we
discussed the problems I have with her comparing
the horsemen to the holocaust already (and I still think
she does).
Another great story about Cassandra dealing with her
emotions is Brenda Antrims "Survivors". It has nothing
about her and Methos coming to therms, of course,
but is very well done. I liked it a lot.
> I agree that "Redemption" is well done, but there is
> another gen story that was recently posted on Seventh
> Dimension called "Way of the Witch" by HonorH. This
> is a story written from Cassandra's viewpoint. She is
> pragmatic, independent minded and definitely not a
> victim. Her attitude toward Methos is unexpected to
> say the least. Have you read this one. Helga? I put
> it on my top ten of HL gen fanfic.
I have read it and was very intrigued by it. I wrote
HonorH abou it already. The only part of the story
I could not quite believe is that Cassandra here
stated she never felt hate for Methos... that's hard to
believe to me. But I thought this story and it's
concepts to be very refreshing.
Aislynn (Helga)
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Aislynn
Aislynn <ais...@my-deja.com> (that's me) wrote:
> Another great story about Cassandra dealing with her
> emotions is Brenda Antrims "Survivors". It has nothing
> about her and Methos coming to therms, of course,
> but is very well done. I liked it a lot.
>
Uh-oh! *Big* apologies here, actually this story is not by
Brenda Antrim but by Deborah Block-Schwenck!
Sorry!!!!
Once more about Methos and stories about him being redeemed:
I actually wanted to clarify my view about Methos and
redemption for his past in fanfic. I don't think that
Methos never thought of or was seeking redemption, but I think,
if so, it would rather happen some short time after he actually
left the Horsemen - after enough time, that is, for his
receptions of the world changing enough to really realize
what he has done as a Horseman and be horrified by it.
If he would seek redemption, a way to make it up, somehow,
I think it would be (have been) then.
On the other hand, I tend more to the view provided by
MacGeorge in her stories, that Methos, actually, think
of his deeds as a Horsemen as unforgivable and unredeemable, and
therefore thinks of him seeking redemption for them as pointless.
This is a view I share. Lately, it has been provided, too, by
"Sleep With Coyotes" wonderful story "The Art Of war"
(to be found at seventh dimension archive; caution, it is slash,
male/male relationship between Methos and Duncan is implied,
although no sex scenes occur).
In this story, the tale is told how the book "the Art Of war"
by Kim Sun was written... a brilliant little piece, and
I can highly recommend it.
But still "Methos forced to do penance (to redeem him)" stories
are - mostly - pointless to me.