GG Stunts
Benji
stunt people. Most of them are credited for only a few episodes or a season
or two. But, it made me wonder why a show like GG would need so many stunt
actors. In fact, Alexis has a designated stunt double, a former NCAA
gymnast. I can't really figure out why she would need one.
Benji
Rob Jensen
She had a stunt person for the jump in "You Jump, I Jump, Jack" and
likely for the fencing scene waaaay back in s3, for which Liza Weil
likely also had a stunt person with training in stage combat. As did
the other speaking-role actors involved in the stunt (Logan, etc.).
Other places that stunt people were likely used that immediately come
to mind are: Lorelai's pratfalls (backwards into the globe in Max's
classroom in s1, across a table in the Diner toward the end of s4),
Lorelai falling through her termite-infested porch in Secrets & Loans
in s2, Jess & Dean's fight in Keg! Max! at the end of s3, Paris &
Doyle's Krav Maga fights earlier this season, another stunt from You
Jump, where Logan was shooting another Brigader with a paintball gun
(in the commentary for the ep, one of the Palladinos cited the target
Brigader as a stunt person), Sookie's various fire and/or knife stunts
in the kitchen. Glenn *might* have had a stunt person assisting him
in his emergence from the ocean at the end of "Girls in Bikinis."
Even pushing Jess's nonfunctional POS car to Gypsy's in A Family
Matter likely involved a stunt coordinator and stunt people to
choreograph and time-out the movement of the cars (not just Jess and
his car, but also the cars behind Jess that were caught in the traffic
jam) and coordinating how and when Kirk was going to be making a
nuisance of himself, etc. Car scenes often involve things that you
wouldn't normally think of as stunts -- as when Jason rudely passed
Duke's -- I mean *Luke's* slowpoke truck in A Family Matter. That one
was almost *certainly* done by stunt drivers.
Basically, *anything* -- and I do mean *anything* -- where the safety
of the actor might possibly have been an issue, a stunt person was
involved, learning and likely helping to choreograph the given stunt.
After all, they know that we fans (not to mention Amy and Dan) would
likely get medieval on their asses if Lauren or Alexis ever got hurt
on the set. Even in stunts where the actor is actually used, the
actor's stunt double likely learned the stunt *first* and then
assisted the stunt coordinator and the episode director in determining
that the stunt was safe enough for the actor to perform herself and
finally taught the actor the blocking of the stunt, collaborating with
the actor to customize the blocking to the actor's own comfort levels.
What should probably amaze/relieve/scare *everybody* is that I've
probably just covered at the very *least* the uses of the nineteen
stunt people as cited by the OP without checking with imdb. Or else
found a bunch of *other* places where stunt people were likely used.
Off the top of my head, mind you. Ever since Twilight Zone: The
Movie, no show/movie/play takes any chance whatsoever with actors and
stunts if they can possibly avoid it, which is why, I think, off the
top of my head, among the few major, life-threatening injuries of name
actors in movie or TV since the Twilight Zone disaster that come to
mind were Charlize Theron's fractured vertebrae from a wire-stunt gone
awry on Aeon Flux, George Clooney's back in injury from a torture
scene in Syriana and (to a much lesser extent) Jerry Doyle's broken
wrist/arm suffered during a combat stunt on Babylon 5. (Oh, and
Nicole Kidman did break some bones on Moulin Rouge, but those were
dancing injuries, not technically stunt injuries, although the dancing
in that movie, particularly Satine's, was so elaborate and strenuous
that they could qualify as stunts, BID.)
Stunt people *may* even *also* be the stand-ins, but it's a totally
different job category and it depends entirely on the needs of the
given show and/or single episode of a show. Virtually all shows
employ stand-ins for virtually all of their lead/regular/recurring
actors, who approximate the height/type build of the given actor(s)
and literally stand-in for them in a non-stunty-way for the purposes
of aiding the lighting/tech people when the set is being prepped for
the next scene. The stand-ins shadow the actor, learning the blocking
with the actor in order to aid the tech people and to keep the actor
up-to-date when blocking has to be changed when the actor isn't there.
Often more than one actor -- while the stand-in for a given lead
generally is assigned to shadow just that lead (ie: Lauren has her own
stand-in who's assigned to cover just Lauren), stand-ins for less
frequently appearing characters such as Taylor may also cover other
smaller roles such as Richard, Rev. Skinner, and so on.) Prep is
tedious and far too time consuming for the actors to do, as they're
generally filming *other* scenes on other sets when a given set is
being prepped. or they're learning their lines. Or doing press
interviews. imdb's credits aren't 100% reliable, so it's possible
that stand-ins got miscredited as stunt people or even some stunt
people got credited as stand-ins, so the number of stunt people could
even be *under-reported* to imdb's Gg page.
-- Rob
--
LORELAI: In the movie, only boy hobbits travel to Mount
Doom, but that's only because the girls went to do something
even more dangerous.
GIRL: What?
LORELAI: Have you ever heard of a Brazilian Bikini Wax?
Mickey
Even with all the care Rob has outlined, things still do happen in the
entertainment business. I've been in the emergency room three times (and
almost a fourth) because of accidents on stage.
Mickey
Barnabas Collins
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:24:16 -0600, "Benji"
<benjam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
The life and death brigade?
Later this season when Logan gets injured in a L&DB stunt?
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Barnabas Collins
>in his emergence from the ocean at the end of "Girls in Bikinis."
>Basically, *anything* -- and I do mean *anything* -- where the safety
>of the actor might possibly have been an issue, a stunt person was
>involved, learning and likely helping to choreograph the given stunt.
>After all, they know that we fans (not to mention Amy and Dan) would
>likely get medieval on their asses if Lauren or Alexis ever got hurt
>on the set.
Not to mention the insurance company would have a bird if actor xxx
was involved in a risky stunt.
Not to mention that the network would have a bird if Gilmore Girls
starring Lauren Graham was without Lauren Graham for a year while
she recoved from a stunt gone bad.
Question for someone in the know: if actor xxxx decides to do a
stunt do they wait and up the insurance on that actor first before
going ahead with the stunt? Would it have to be cleared by
management/the insurance carreir/the head stunt co-ordinator/
the executive producer/the network/the studio?
After all if xxxx actor wants to do a stunt they're risking the
multi million dollar investment the studio/production company has
in them.
I would also point of you had a big name actor tied to a show
the injury of that big name actor would probably lead to the
cancellation of the show.
(If Seinfled was injured in a stunt that stunt might well
have led to the cancellation of Seinfeld if were out for
like a year.
William George Ferguson
>On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:24:16 -0600, "Benji"
><benjam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I did some farting around on IMDb and found GG has a total of 19 credited
>>stunt people. Most of them are credited for only a few episodes or a season
>>or two. But, it made me wonder why a show like GG would need so many stunt
>>actors. In fact, Alexis has a designated stunt double, a former NCAA
>>gymnast. I can't really figure out why she would need one.
>
>She had a stunt person for the jump in "You Jump, I Jump, Jack" and
>likely for the fencing scene waaaay back in s3, for which Liza Weil
>likely also had a stunt person with training in stage combat. As did
>the other speaking-role actors involved in the stunt (Logan, etc.).
>Other places that stunt people were likely used that immediately come
>to mind are: Lorelai's pratfalls (backwards into the globe in Max's
>classroom in s1, across a table in the Diner toward the end of s4),
>Lorelai falling through her termite-infested porch in Secrets & Loans
>in s2, Jess & Dean's fight in Keg! Max! at the end of s3, Paris &
>Doyle's Krav Maga fights earlier this season, another stunt from You
>Jump, where Logan was shooting another Brigader with a paintball gun
>(in the commentary for the ep, one of the Palladinos cited the target
>Brigader as a stunt person), Sookie's various fire and/or knife stunts
>in the kitchen. Glenn *might* have had a stunt person assisting him
>in his emergence from the ocean at the end of "Girls in Bikinis."
Well, Sophia Crawford worked as a sunt double on the show, so that might be
who did the Paris half of the swordfight (As Buffy fans know, she is
seriously good with a sword).
Interesting that Karin Silvestri doubled Alexis Bledel on GG and Amber
Tamblyn on JoA, but doesn't have a credit for SotTP. That would have
seemed to be a natural.
One of the more famous stunt injuries occured off-set, when an actress
tried do a simple stunt without it being properly blocked, i.e. Lucy
Lawless' arrival by horseback and dismount for the Tonight Show, which
resulted in cracked vertebrae and Hudson Lieck getting to play Xena for a
few eps.
--
... and my sister is a vampire slayer, her best friend is a witch who
went bonkers and tried to destroy the world, um, I actually used to be
a little ball of energy until about two years ago when some monks
changed the past and made me Buffy's sister and for some reason, a big
klepto. My best friends are Leticia Jones, who moved to San Diego
because this town is evil, and a floppy eared demon named Clem.
(Dawn's fantasy of her intro speech in "Lessons", from the shooting script)
Benji
"Rob Jensen" <Shut...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Even while I was writing, I think "You Jump, I Jack" was in my subconscious.
As for the other examples, I'll have to watch those episodes again to see
how the "stunt" work fit in. Thanks for giving me a reason to re-watch
episodes.
Benji
dangt...@netscape.net
William George Ferguson wrote:
> ... and my sister is a vampire slayer, her best friend is a witch who
> went bonkers and tried to destroy the world, um, I actually used to be
> a little ball of energy until about two years ago when some monks
> changed the past and made me Buffy's sister and for some reason, a big
> klepto. My best friends are Leticia Jones, who moved to San Diego
> because this town is evil, and a floppy eared demon named Clem.
> (Dawn's fantasy of her intro speech in "Lessons", from the shooting script)
That speech cracked me up, especially the little ball of energy part :)
You wrote there at the end that it's from the shooting script. So was
the speech actually like that in the episode or was it changed in the
actual episode?
William George Ferguson
It's a 'written not seen', it was either edited out or not shot (most
likely not shot). Instead, they show Dawn's real intro speech, or at least
the start of it (before Buffy bursts into the classroom and completely
embarrasses her).
"I love to dance. I like music. I'm very into Britney Spears' early work,
before she sold out. So mostly her, um, finger painting and macaroni art.
Very underrated. Favorite activities include not ever having to do this
again, and uh...
[after Buffy bursts into the classroom and completely humiliates her]
"I also have a sister."
--
Ben: I wish it didn't have to be this way.
Dawn: And I wish you'd fall on your head and drown in your own barf.
I guess we're both going to be disappointed.