Ausiello Update on Gg Movie
Rob Jensen
From today's (9-03-08) Ask Ausiello column at:
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/09/ask-ausiello-sp.html#more
Question: I am sure you are positively sick of all the questions about
the possibility of a Gilmore Girls movie, but I must ask: Has there
been any talk about it at all recently? -- Ally
Ausiello: If I had a serious gambling problem, which I don't (wink,
wink), I'd wager my entire Smurf collection that the likelihood of a
Gilmore movie hinges on how well 90210 performed last night in the
ratings. See where I'm going with this?
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And how did 90210 do in the ratings?
Well, TV Guide indirectly says good things for Gilmore Fans at:
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Ratings-90210-Americas/800046074
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Ratings: Did 90210 Score Good Grades?
The numbers are in, and the much-awaited/-hyped arrival of the new
90210 gave the CW its highest-rated premiere ever in the adults 18-49
demo.
In terms of total viewers, the sex-ucational adventures of Annie,
Dixon, Naomi & Co. — with a bit of old-school Kelly, Nat and Brenda
sprinkled in — averaged 4.9 million across its two-hour run. Those
numbers represent a 40-percent better bow than Gossip Girl enjoyed a
year ago.
Opposite the kids of West Bev, America's Got Talent (10 million
viewers) slipped a mil, while Big Brother put up a typical 6.5 mil.
At 10 pm, the most-watched coverage of the Republican convention came
courtesy of NBC, which drew 4.93 mil. — Matt Mitovich
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My additional observations:
* Yeah, FTR, 90210 got spectacularly good ratings (for the CW) last
night but it's so bad that it makes One Tree Hill look like The
Sopranos.
* So Gilmore fans have to endure the existence of 90210 to get a Gg
movie. Is it all right if I blame it on Shannen Doherty? I mean, she's
blamed for everything anyway, whether she deserves it or not.
* PS: Irony Alert -- A Gg movie depends on how successful Jess's
father is.
-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Nina Jarvis
wrote:
Am i mistaken or is Moonlight back this season?
I thought I heard it was returning.
Also am I the only one who skipped 90210 the first time around
and this tiem too?
Rob Jensen
<replyo...@emailprivate.com> wrote:
>Am i mistaken or is Moonlight back this season?
>
>I thought I heard it was returning.
While Les Moonves had said around the time of the strike that bubble
shows like Moonlight (a show he specified by name) had a better chance
of being renewed than they would have had if not for the strike, CBS
decided to cancel Moonlight anyway.
Worse yet, even though Moonlight is going to be released on DVD in the
UK, CBS Paramount has no plans to release it on DVD over here. But
the lesser-received Threshold was released on DVD here, so I think
it's just a matter of time My guess: within around the next six-eight
months or so.
Sharpe Fan
"Rob Jensen" <Shut...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:keoub4p02m4cb03e6...@4ax.com...
> Some interesting Gg-ish news:
>
> From today's (9-03-08) Ask Ausiello column at:
>
> http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/09/ask-ausiello-sp.html#more
>
> Question: I am sure you are positively sick of all the questions about
> the possibility of a Gilmore Girls movie, but I must ask: Has there
> been any talk about it at all recently? -- Ally
>
> Ausiello: If I had a serious gambling problem, which I don't (wink,
> wink), I'd wager my entire Smurf collection that the likelihood of a
> Gilmore movie hinges on how well 90210 performed last night in the
> ratings. See where I'm going with this?
>
> =====================================
>
> And how did 90210 do in the ratings?
>
> Well, TV Guide indirectly says good things for Gilmore Fans at:
>
> http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Ratings-90210-Americas/800046074
>
> ====================================
>
> Ratings: Did 90210 Score Good Grades?
>
> The numbers are in, and the much-awaited/-hyped arrival of the new
> 90210 gave the CW its highest-rated premiere ever in the adults 18-49
> demo.
>
> In terms of total viewers, the sex-ucational adventures of Annie,
> sprinkled in - averaged 4.9 million across its two-hour run. Those
> numbers represent a 40-percent better bow than Gossip Girl enjoyed a
> year ago.
>
> Opposite the kids of West Bev, America's Got Talent (10 million
> viewers) slipped a mil, while Big Brother put up a typical 6.5 mil.
>
> At 10 pm, the most-watched coverage of the Republican convention came
>
> ===================================
>
> My additional observations:
>
> * Yeah, FTR, 90210 got spectacularly good ratings (for the CW) last
> night but it's so bad that it makes One Tree Hill look like The
> Sopranos.
>
> * So Gilmore fans have to endure the existence of 90210 to get a Gg
> movie. Is it all right if I blame it on Shannen Doherty? I mean, she's
> blamed for everything anyway, whether she deserves it or not.
>
> * PS: Irony Alert -- A Gg movie depends on how successful Jess's
> father is.
>
> -- Rob
> --
I really don't want to be a killjoy, but I seemed destined for the part.
I saw Ausiello's column and I can't see how the ratings for an "updating" of
an old Fox show have an bearing on whether GG gets a TV movie, short run
series or a full new series pick up. Indeed, it could be argued that if The
CW has a slate of successful shows (ratings-wise) they don't need to bring
back a recently ended show.
And regardless of the rating's impact, you still need the participation of
LG, AB, Luke and the grandparents, at the very least, in order to have a
viable show.
I don't see any change on this front.
Sorry,
Sharpe Fan
Rob Jensen
Which they don't. Gossip GIrl, Smallville, Supernatural and ANTM are
all hits for the channel, but the bloom is finally off ANTM,
Supernatural has had its budget cut this year (hence, even fewer
recurring characters and less for VFX) and even a sleeper like EHC is
running out of gas.
In essence: the success of any network is based on how stable the
lineup is perceived to be. Are the hits still hitting? Are they able
to grown their audiences? Are they able to crank out new series faster
than they can cancel the bombs?
The answer is that they're soooo sucky at developing new programming
on their own that they farmed out a full night to another company! I
mean, seriously, Sharpe, last season was a fucking disaster for The
CW.
Not to mention that The CW took a *huge* hit from its target audience
for cancelling Gg (not to mention Veronica Mars, too).
>And regardless of the rating's impact, you still need the participation of
>LG, AB, Luke and the grandparents, at the very least, in order to have a
>viable show.
They've all -- even 80-lb.gorilla AB -- said that they'd do it if Amy
wrote it. So that issue is entirely moot.
>I don't see any change on this front.
The change is right in front of you. Doesn't mean that it's going to
100% for sure result in a Gg movie, but Ausiello has, in fact,
reported on a substantial change toward the positive in the CW's
attitude toward a Gg movie. The development of a Gg movie project is
still subject to the normal internal politics between network, studio
and creator (mostly the first one versus the latter two).
>Sorry,
>Sharpe Fan
1) He asserts that he's gotten information that the CW is using the
ratings of the 90210.2.0.1 pilot as a basis for deciding whether or
not to do a Gg movie. That's Ausiello, not me.
2) The ratings for the combined 90210.2.1.1 and 90210.2.1.2 were
extremely, extremely good for the network.
Dude, I'm just showing what Ausiello said and then simply providing
information (the ratings of 90210.2.0) that strongly indicates that
the situation that Ausiello reported on has been met. That doesn't
mean that there aren't other conditions that go into the network's
decision-making process, including:
3) The network has had a disastrous run of "reality" shows over the
past Gilmore-less year and, morever, the season premiere of the
network's #1 show, ANTM, was a slide in the ratings versus last year.
4) The MRC-led Sunday night programming is already disastrous (and
includes a rip-off of Cupid, to boot.) That it's being delayed by a
couple of weeks isn't going to help it any.
Thus, due to Gossip Girl's increased ratings and 90210.2.0's sucess
out of the starting booth *and* the network's total ditching of
Smackdown, it seems to me that the network is actually trying to go
back to being The WB again in all but name, which means a return to
scripted programming. No matter how bad MRC's line-up is and no
matter how craptacularly bad 90210.2.0 is.
Metaphorically speaking, I don't think it's time for the band to play
"Back in the USSR" just yet, but it's definitely time to call the
balalaika players and put them on a retainer to keep their calendar
open for a floating six-months-in-advance.
One last thing: Ausiello takes pleasure in crushing the dreams of
fans who write in about shows that have no hope of being revived, even
when they're shows that he has liked/obsessed about. And he's not
only consistently refused to do so in this case, but every third week
or so that he's not on vacation, he brings it up.
I know you want to say that it's an orange, but it's really a squid,
Sharpe.
Tru Davies
wrote:
>Which they don't. Gossip GIrl, Smallville, Supernatural and ANTM are
>all hits for the channel, but the bloom is finally off ANTM,
>Supernatural has had its budget cut this year (hence, even fewer
>recurring characters and less for VFX) and even a sleeper like EHC is
>running out of gas.
half of that list has been cancelled. (Chris/Aliens in America.)
I missed too much of past years of Smallville to get into it.
Same with Supernatural.
>Not to mention that The CW took a *huge* hit from its target audience
>for cancelling Gg (not to mention Veronica Mars, too).
Although Daddy Mars has a new show on CBS..........about a SWAT team.
Too bad it's probably gone until next summer.
>1) He asserts that he's gotten information that the CW is using the
>ratings of the 90210.2.0.1 pilot as a basis for deciding whether or
>not to do a Gg movie. That's Ausiello, not me.
>
>2) The ratings for the combined 90210.2.1.1 and 90210.2.1.2 were
>extremely, extremely good for the network.
How is 90210 relevant to GG? I loved GG but hated 90210.
>One last thing: Ausiello takes pleasure in crushing the dreams of
>fans who write in about shows that have no hope of being revived, even
>when they're shows that he has liked/obsessed about.
IMHO you're misinterpreting his comments.......he's not crushing the
dreams of fans he's lighting into fans who complain that xxx show is
not on when he reported weeks/months/years ago that the show was
cancelled/finished/kaput.
i.e. xxxxxx show is gone.....it's never coming back......it's
been cancelled.
Also if a show is gone for three to five years it's safe to start
assuming it won't return......and asking Ausiello when it will return
won't bring it back.
I'm trying to remember what show it was but people would ask
when it would return even though the show was gone for
more than several years.
Ausiello can only get asked the same question so many times
before he starts to get ticked off.