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PJ

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Oct 27, 2009, 6:49:05 PM10/27/09
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Okay, now I've seen him again. Now I remember why I didn't like him
back then. Well, I liked him when he was 12 but not when he grew up.
And not now! He's a whispery-voiced kid. Where's Greg Vaughan and is
it too late to get him back? Seriously, while I know I should give JJ
more of a chance to hit his stride, the moment I heard his voice, I
cringed. Just don't like the guy!

PJ

Mary

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Oct 27, 2009, 8:00:52 PM10/27/09
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Today was the day I've been waiting for. While I liked Greg Vaughn and
would love him as any other character, he's never really been Lucky to
me. JJ was a bit soft spoken in his first couple of scenes today (with
Liz and at the Haunted Star), but by the end of the episode, it was like
he never left. Loved his reactions to Liz on the couch. Loved him
talking to his mom. Love him! :-)

MaryD

Jim Sumner

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Oct 28, 2009, 1:18:43 AM10/28/09
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I'm not gay but I really don't understand why they would replace a
masculine hot guy like Greg Vaughn for the wimp JJ? You don't get MORE
viewers with something like this, you get less.

Katscritters

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Oct 28, 2009, 7:47:21 AM10/28/09
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I JJ's Lucky but was madder than heck with the way they brought him
back. I hated the way they S*** all over the fans of the JJ;s Lucky
and Elizebeth pairing. I never bought Greg as Lucky. He just didn't
have the look of a kid who grew up street smart and looking over his
shoulder all the time. and they sure didn't portray him as such
lately.

Laura M. Young

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Oct 28, 2009, 1:23:35 PM10/28/09
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I had the same feeling! Of course, I hadn't seen him since he was a cute
12 year old because I left GH for 5 years when Lucky was a teen. By the
time I came back he was believed dead. Then we had to put up with
box-kicking Lucky 2. I really LIKED Lucky3 in the form of Greg Vaughn
although I hated what they did with his character. Now that we have Lucky
1/4 it is annoying again to have to get used to a new actor. I especially
hate it when they bring in a new actor (and this IS a new actor because he
never played this role as an adult) and immediately throw them into intimate
romantic scenes with someone that their character has been involved with,
but I've never seen this ACTOR involved with the person and it was jarring
as all get-out to me to see Elizabeth kissing this total stranger.

That was a cute intro though with the "Remember me?" question as his first
line.

Laura M. Young

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Oct 28, 2009, 1:25:12 PM10/28/09
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On 10/27/09 10:18 PM,"Jim Sumner" <JimSum...@aol.com> wrote:

> I'm not gay but I really don't understand why they would replace a
> masculine hot guy like Greg Vaughn for the wimp JJ? You don't get MORE
> viewers with something like this, you get less.

Good point. JJ may have been great as a sensitive teen, but it's going to
be tough for him to convince us he's a reformed addict and a cop, especially
since many of us really LIKED GV in the role.

Alane

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Oct 28, 2009, 8:06:07 PM10/28/09
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I think that physically, JJ looks more like he would be Luke and Laura's
kid.
GV was so well built that he didn't look like Luke's spawn to me. OTOH, I'm
going to now start expecting Lucky to pull out a guitar rather than a gun,
because I have a hard time seeing him as a cop.

Alane

Radioguy

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Oct 28, 2009, 8:12:44 PM10/28/09
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> That was a cute intro though with the "Remember me?" question as his first
> line.

I thought so too.

Ruby Villavicencio

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Oct 28, 2009, 11:34:39 PM10/28/09
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On 10/28/09 7:47 AM, in article
42615eae-5e05-4adb...@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com,
"Katscritters" <catscr...@cox.net> wrote:

No, GV wasn't the same "Lucky" as JJ's teenaged Lucky. But he's been Lucky
for the past several years, and he IS Lucky as far as I'm concerned. I
liked JJ as a teen, now not so much. Escpecially not given the way Greg was
treated.

Ruby

Ruby Villavicencio

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Oct 28, 2009, 11:35:28 PM10/28/09
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On 10/27/09 6:49 PM, in article
240fe004-1b2e-4d86...@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com, "PJ"
<pjm...@aol.com> wrote:

I know that this is going to come as a total shock to you, PJ. But I agree
with you. Totally.

Ruby

PJ

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Oct 29, 2009, 11:13:25 AM10/29/09
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On Oct 28, 8:35�pm, Ruby Villavicencio <rubyv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/27/09 6:49 PM, in article
> 240fe004-1b2e-4d86-bb9c-c73953111...@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com, "PJ"

I think there's about three of us who arent' happy with this
"wonderful" change, then. We must be getting old, Ruby. We haven't had
a good disagreement in quite a while!

PJ

Ruby Villavicencio

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Oct 29, 2009, 2:31:20 PM10/29/09
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On 10/29/09 11:13 AM, in article
4d19a4e0-438b-46f2...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com, "PJ"
<pjm...@aol.com> wrote:

We can always change that. Let's talk about Liz . . . .

Ruby

PJ

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Oct 29, 2009, 6:22:00 PM10/29/09
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On Oct 29, 11:31�am, Ruby Villavicencio <rubyv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/29/09 11:13 AM, in article
> 4d19a4e0-438b-46f2-ba27-e9e784278...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com, "PJ"
> Ruby- Hide quoted text -
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Oh, but you forget. I've joined your side!! The crap with Nikolas
pushed over the edge.

PJ

c c

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Oct 29, 2009, 10:15:36 PM10/29/09
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I didn't like JJ ,even as a teen. Certainly don't now ! They took away a
hunk, and brought in a dweeb. Kinda like replacing Jason with
Carrot-top.

Carol

PJ

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Oct 29, 2009, 10:35:23 PM10/29/09
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Yep. Hard to imagine the dweeb have a hot, heavy, sexy affair with
Sam, huh? She wouldn't look at him twice!

PJ

Janie

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Oct 30, 2009, 1:28:03 AM10/30/09
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You may not think JJ is masculine and hot, but he married one of the
most gorgeous actresses to appear on GH:
Lisa Vultaggio, and as of 2008, they had three kids.

Ruby Villavicencio

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Oct 30, 2009, 8:54:28 AM10/30/09
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On 10/29/09 6:22 PM, in article
e289a726-6ee9-4a30...@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com, "PJ"
<pjm...@aol.com> wrote:

> Oh, but you forget. I've joined your side!! The crap with Nikolas
> pushed over the edge.

Gosh, PJ! What are we going to fight about now?

Ruby

Ruby Villavicencio

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Oct 30, 2009, 8:55:43 AM10/30/09
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On 10/30/09 1:28 AM, in article hcdth5$ip5$1...@news.eternal-september.org,
"Janie" <Ja...@nospam.com.invalid> wrote:

> You may not think JJ is masculine and hot, but he married one of the
> most gorgeous actresses to appear on GH:
> Lisa Vultaggio, and as of 2008, they had three kids.

I don't think JJ is masculine or "hot", nor do I think Lisa is particularly
gorgeous. She's attractive -- most actors are. But gorgeous? Not so much.

Ruby

PJ

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Oct 30, 2009, 10:28:14 AM10/30/09
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On Oct 30, 5:55�am, Ruby Villavicencio <rubyv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/30/09 1:28 AM, in article hcdth5$ip...@news.eternal-september.org,

To be honest, when I heard (and every single time I've seen it
mentioned since) that JJ and LV had married, I've been astonished! I
do think she's very attractive and she's older and has always seemed
eons more mature than him. But, as Janie pointed out, they're still
married, they have 3 kids together. Something must be working for
them. But I'm not watching them, I'm watching him on GH and his soft
voice and wimpy manner (still) are not working for me. I said when his
return was first disclosed that he "looks" more like Luke's son but
that's all he has going for him, as far as I'm concerned.

PJ

Katscritters

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Oct 31, 2009, 5:52:29 AM10/31/09
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On Oct 27, 5:49 pm, PJ <pjm...@aol.com> wrote:

I have to disagree with you all. JJ has more of an edge to him that
GV just didn't have. I never bought him as someone who spent most of
his childhood looking over his shoulder. Yes he way sort of good
looking but he never fit the role for me.

Ruby Villavicencio

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Oct 31, 2009, 9:07:30 PM10/31/09
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On 10/30/09 10:28 AM, in article
5f8916c4-aeda-4bb1...@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com, "PJ"
<pjm...@aol.com> wrote:

I'm not getting the LV/JJ pairing either, but it's none of my business. If
it works for them . . .

JJ looks more like a possible brother for Ethan than does GV -- and it's
absolutely horrible if TPTB were planning to dump Greg so far in advance
that they cast "Lucky's Brother" to look like JJ rather than GV.

Ruby

Alane

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Oct 31, 2009, 9:22:46 PM10/31/09
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Ruby Villavicencio wrote:

From what I've read, Ethan was originally supposed to be Robert
Scorpio's kid
until Tony Geary intervened after the role was cast and said he'd be better
as Luke's. So, if they were going for a resemblance to anyone, it probably
was Tristan Rogers.

Alane

Radioguy

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Nov 1, 2009, 11:39:01 AM11/1/09
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Lisa was a bit of a contraction. She was very pretty and had curves
that must have drawn Kelly Monaco's attention, as well as the males in
the audience. Lisa was very dedicated to her craft and to her strong
beliefs. Lisa was also a singer. She led a bible study group on the set
during the break. Face it, one look at this lady and you weren't
thinking bible study.

Her relationship with JJ, I think surprised many. Then thinking about
it, it started to make more sense. JJ and LV have conservative values.
Jonathan raised in Washington, not far from Vancouver, LV's home.
Both have interests in music, as well as acting. Neither are into the
LA-LA lifestyle.

They've been married about 8 years. That's 7 years and 9 months longer
than the average in tinsel town. ;)

As far as the JJ Lucky, I was a bit surprised that he was so thin.
Through the maturation process I would have expected him to have bulked
up a bit.

By comparison GV and JJ definitely are two different body types. From a
casting point of view, JJ probably looks closer to Luke body wise and
coloring with both of his cast parents. If Ethan is his half brother,
that the body is similar, although the coloring is off. Holly having
dark hair would account for that.

Jim Sumner

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Nov 2, 2009, 1:49:44 AM11/2/09
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On Oct 31, 8:22 pm, Alane <alane...@aol.com> wrote:
> Ruby Villavicencio wrote:
>
> > On 10/30/09 10:28 AM, in article
> > 5f8916c4-aeda-4bb1-98d0-90c00f418...@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com, "PJ"


Tony Geary intervened because he has the hots for Ethan in real
life, Geary is quite gay and he wanted a lot of scenes with his new
crush.

PJ

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Nov 2, 2009, 7:36:51 PM11/2/09
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BS

PJ

S.J.

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Nov 2, 2009, 9:08:26 PM11/2/09
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Agree, BS. I don't think they would have changed a story line for such a
reason.

S.J.

S.J.

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Nov 2, 2009, 9:19:30 PM11/2/09
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PJ wrote:

Agree, don't think they would have changed a story line for such a lame
reason.

S.J.

Laura M. Young

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:02:09 AM11/6/09
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On 10/31/09 6:22 PM,"Alane" <alan...@aol.com> wrote:

> From what I've read, Ethan was originally supposed to be Robert
> Scorpio's kid
> until Tony Geary intervened after the role was cast and said he'd be better
> as Luke's. So, if they were going for a resemblance to anyone, it probably
> was Tristan Rogers.
>
> Alane

It would have made SOOOO much more sense if he had been Robert and Holly's
kid than Luke's. I will never get over hating that they rewrote history to
have Luke cheat on Laura. That was always part of the mystique about Luke
and Laura...he was a pretty disreputable character, but he loved Laura
devotedly for years, and that was the one good thing about him. I hate that
they destroyed that. Now he's just another sleazy cheating bastard who ran
around on his wife and knocked up another woman.

Laura M. Young

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:05:12 AM11/6/09
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On 11/1/09 11:49 PM,"Jim Sumner" <JimSum...@aol.com> wrote:

> Tony Geary intervened because he has the hots for Ethan in real
> life, Geary is quite gay and he wanted a lot of scenes with his new
> crush.

Yes, it is an open secret that TG is gay, but I don't think TPTB at GH make
decisions based on who has a crush on whom.

c c

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:26:37 AM11/6/09
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The stupid thought about TG changing Ethans plot lne, so they could
share scenes, is just a pointless snicker. Since Robert isn't on the
show, Luke and Ethan would have shared the same scenes ANYWAY, whoever
Ethans dad turned out to be.

Carol

Jim Sumner

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Nov 6, 2009, 2:31:56 AM11/6/09
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It isn't stupid, securing Ethan as Luke's family increases the
likelihood that he will stick around. And anyway actors whether gay or
straight go to bat for those they like on a show. On the Young And The
Restless Christian Leblanc absolutely fell in love with Greg Rikaart
and this secured Rikaart's presence on the show and even enlarged the
role of the Baldwin family there.

PJ

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Nov 6, 2009, 10:17:11 AM11/6/09
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Okay, you have a point. My objection when this comes up is the "fans"
who make TG sound like a drooling idiot panting after a young stud. TG
is way too professional to act as some have claimed AND he's been with
the same domestic partner for many, many years. He keeps his private
life very private and we should too.

PJ

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