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Kaitlin
Jan 25, 2024, 3:25:38 PM1/25/24
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Have started to catch up and last night watched the episode where Carly
and Felicia were in Amsterdam. And in Canada. And back in PC. All in one
ep. See? They *can* move things along when they choose to! I did get a
little temporal whiplash, but nothing really to complain about. Really
enjoyed the flashbacks during the reminiscences at Kelly's.
Maybe I missed something, but I don't get why or how Felicia and Maxie
came to the same conclusion at the same time that the reporter was BJ's
ghost. We were clued into it when she called Lucas "Champ," but what
clued Felicia and Maxie? I really love that they did that, BTW. For me,
the BJ story was hands down the most emotionally difficult thing I'd
ever seen on GH, and remains so 30 something years on. Bringing BJ back
this way sort of softened the tragedy in a way that Dr Time hasn't been
able to.
Also love that Carly renamed Kelly's to Bobbie's. Very appropriate. And
timely. How many people watching now even know who Paddy and Rose Kelly
were? Besides which, they've reconfigured the interior so many times in
the past 40 something years that it doesn't even remotely resemble the
original. I'm glad that Carly is running the family business. It's a
better fit for her than a big hotel, IMO.
A few petty nit picks, tho. One, did they really have to use those
bottles of green things on the tables of the Amsterdam cafe that are
also on the tables at Kelly's? Same green things, same bottles! It was
like Carly had brought them with her! LOL! And two, how did Cornelia
survive alone for what must have been weeks without anyone bringing her
food and water? And three, how is it possible to change a tire without
using a jack? Just saying. Otherwise, a very enjoyable, poignant
episode.
--
K
and Felicia were in Amsterdam. And in Canada. And back in PC. All in one
ep. See? They *can* move things along when they choose to! I did get a
little temporal whiplash, but nothing really to complain about. Really
enjoyed the flashbacks during the reminiscences at Kelly's.
Maybe I missed something, but I don't get why or how Felicia and Maxie
came to the same conclusion at the same time that the reporter was BJ's
ghost. We were clued into it when she called Lucas "Champ," but what
clued Felicia and Maxie? I really love that they did that, BTW. For me,
the BJ story was hands down the most emotionally difficult thing I'd
ever seen on GH, and remains so 30 something years on. Bringing BJ back
this way sort of softened the tragedy in a way that Dr Time hasn't been
able to.
Also love that Carly renamed Kelly's to Bobbie's. Very appropriate. And
timely. How many people watching now even know who Paddy and Rose Kelly
were? Besides which, they've reconfigured the interior so many times in
the past 40 something years that it doesn't even remotely resemble the
original. I'm glad that Carly is running the family business. It's a
better fit for her than a big hotel, IMO.
A few petty nit picks, tho. One, did they really have to use those
bottles of green things on the tables of the Amsterdam cafe that are
also on the tables at Kelly's? Same green things, same bottles! It was
like Carly had brought them with her! LOL! And two, how did Cornelia
survive alone for what must have been weeks without anyone bringing her
food and water? And three, how is it possible to change a tire without
using a jack? Just saying. Otherwise, a very enjoyable, poignant
episode.
--
K
Marika
Jan 27, 2024, 1:45:38 AM1/27/24
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own a videotape machine. So I could not watch recordings in the evenings.
I missed decades.
Then one day, I was flipping channels, and accidentally rediscovered GH on
the Soap channel.
I am sorry to say I did not understand what was going on and had to read
some wikis to get clued in.
I knew there was something off from the very start. Initially, BJ said
Bobbie would not allow a story because it would endanger the underground
operation. I could not understand why the danger from running the story was
no longer present once Bobbie died. The danger to volunteers and victims
would have remained the same no matter when the story ran.
I puzzled and puzzled over that until it became clear there was no story.
It was a rescue operation.
So, I would have to rewatch it. I think they realized it when the
newspaper lady (on the phone) said no one with that name worked there and
the calling card disappeared. Not sure why those things allowed them to
come to the conclusion, but it just seemed to me those were the triggering
events for them.
SteveR
Jan 27, 2024, 4:58:31 PM1/27/24
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On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 1:45:38 AM UTC-5, Marika wrote:
> >
> > A few petty nit picks, tho. One, did they really have to use those
> > bottles of green things on the tables of the Amsterdam cafe that are
> > also on the tables at Kelly's? Same green things, same bottles! It was
> > like Carly had brought them with her! LOL! And two, how did Cornelia
> > survive alone for what must have been weeks without anyone bringing her
> > food and water? And three, how is it possible to change a tire without
> > using a jack? Just saying. Otherwise, a very enjoyable, poignant
> > episode.
I'd guess maybe Cornelia was always set up with a large stock of supplies, good for a few weeks or more. It could be very uncertain in her circumstances how often her handlers would be able to stop by and resupply her.
I have no answer for the other nit-picks, though!
> I used to watch GH in the eighties. Then work kept me away. And I did not
> own a videotape machine. So I could not watch recordings in the evenings.
>
>
SteveR
> TKaitlin <kelly's.d...@324.wharf.st.INVALID> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe I missed something, but I don't get why or how Felicia and Maxie
> > came to the same conclusion at the same time that the reporter was BJ's
> > ghost. We were clued into it when she called Lucas "Champ," but what
> > clued Felicia and Maxie? I really love that they did that, BTW. For me,
> > the BJ story was hands down the most emotionally difficult thing I'd
> > ever seen on GH, and remains so 30 something years on. Bringing BJ back
> > this way sort of softened the tragedy in a way that Dr Time hasn't been
> > able to.
> >
> > Also love that Carly renamed Kelly's to Bobbie's. Very appropriate. And
> > timely. How many people watching now even know who Paddy and Rose Kelly
> > were? Besides which, they've reconfigured the interior so many times in
> > the past 40 something years that it doesn't even remotely resemble the
> > original. I'm glad that Carly is running the family business. It's a
> > better fit for her than a big hotel, IMO.
Yes, this was a nice tribute to both the character Bobbie and to Jackie Zeman. They will still be present on-set.
> >
> > Maybe I missed something, but I don't get why or how Felicia and Maxie
> > came to the same conclusion at the same time that the reporter was BJ's
> > ghost. We were clued into it when she called Lucas "Champ," but what
> > clued Felicia and Maxie? I really love that they did that, BTW. For me,
> > the BJ story was hands down the most emotionally difficult thing I'd
> > ever seen on GH, and remains so 30 something years on. Bringing BJ back
> > this way sort of softened the tragedy in a way that Dr Time hasn't been
> > able to.
> >
> > Also love that Carly renamed Kelly's to Bobbie's. Very appropriate. And
> > timely. How many people watching now even know who Paddy and Rose Kelly
> > were? Besides which, they've reconfigured the interior so many times in
> > the past 40 something years that it doesn't even remotely resemble the
> > original. I'm glad that Carly is running the family business. It's a
> > better fit for her than a big hotel, IMO.
> >
> > A few petty nit picks, tho. One, did they really have to use those
> > bottles of green things on the tables of the Amsterdam cafe that are
> > also on the tables at Kelly's? Same green things, same bottles! It was
> > like Carly had brought them with her! LOL! And two, how did Cornelia
> > survive alone for what must have been weeks without anyone bringing her
> > food and water? And three, how is it possible to change a tire without
> > using a jack? Just saying. Otherwise, a very enjoyable, poignant
> > episode.
I have no answer for the other nit-picks, though!
> I used to watch GH in the eighties. Then work kept me away. And I did not
> own a videotape machine. So I could not watch recordings in the evenings.
>
>
> I knew there was something off from the very start. Initially, BJ said
> Bobbie would not allow a story because it would endanger the underground
> operation. I could not understand why the danger from running the story was
> no longer present once Bobbie died. The danger to volunteers and victims
> would have remained the same no matter when the story ran.
>
> I puzzled and puzzled over that until it became clear there was no story.
> It was a rescue operation.
>
> So, I would have to rewatch it. I think they realized it when the
> newspaper lady (on the phone) said no one with that name worked there and
> the calling card disappeared. Not sure why those things allowed them to
> come to the conclusion, but it just seemed to me those were the triggering
> events for them.
I interpreted their realizing it was BJ's ghost the same way: The reporter did not exist at that agency, and the business card evaporating into thin air. In Port Charles there are regular visitations by ghosts/spirits of the dearly departed. So, it's not unreasonable that both Felicia and Carly jumped to the conclusion it was BJ. In the mundane real world, people probably would not be as likely to have chosen that explanation, I suppose.
> Bobbie would not allow a story because it would endanger the underground
> operation. I could not understand why the danger from running the story was
> no longer present once Bobbie died. The danger to volunteers and victims
> would have remained the same no matter when the story ran.
>
> I puzzled and puzzled over that until it became clear there was no story.
> It was a rescue operation.
>
> So, I would have to rewatch it. I think they realized it when the
> newspaper lady (on the phone) said no one with that name worked there and
> the calling card disappeared. Not sure why those things allowed them to
> come to the conclusion, but it just seemed to me those were the triggering
> events for them.
SteveR
Kaitlin
Jan 28, 2024, 4:19:27 PM1/28/24
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Marika wrote in <jE1tN.135805$taff....@fx41.iad>:
> TKaitlin <kelly's.d...@324.wharf.st.INVALID> wrote:
<snip>
> I think they realized it when the newspaper lady (on the phone) said no
> one with that name worked there and the calling card disappeared. Not
> sure why those things allowed them to come to the conclusion, but it
> just seemed to me those were the triggering events for them.
Same conclusion, same exact time, but from different locations--Maxie
was inside the house and Felicia was outside, so they weren't cueing off
of each other. Why should they both jump to such a wild conclusion
simply from learning the journalist didn't work for the media outlet she
claimed to work for? Or because Maxie had misplaced her business card?
No such person at that outlet and never has been, and can't find her
card? Ding ding ding ding ding! That can only mean that she's the ghost
of BJ! It's like the Maxie and Felicia added two and three and got 17,
independently of each other!
That said, I searched online for an explanation and didn't find one, but
did read that the portrayer of BJ's ghost was the same person who
portrayed BJ as a child. Pretty cool!
--
K
> TKaitlin <kelly's.d...@324.wharf.st.INVALID> wrote:
<snip>
>>
>> Maybe I missed something, but I don't get why or how Felicia and Maxie
>> came to the same conclusion at the same time that the reporter was BJ's
>> ghost. We were clued into it when she called Lucas "Champ," but what
>> clued Felicia and Maxie?
<snip>
>> Maybe I missed something, but I don't get why or how Felicia and Maxie
>> came to the same conclusion at the same time that the reporter was BJ's
>> ghost. We were clued into it when she called Lucas "Champ," but what
>> clued Felicia and Maxie?
> I think they realized it when the newspaper lady (on the phone) said no
> one with that name worked there and the calling card disappeared. Not
> sure why those things allowed them to come to the conclusion, but it
> just seemed to me those were the triggering events for them.
was inside the house and Felicia was outside, so they weren't cueing off
of each other. Why should they both jump to such a wild conclusion
simply from learning the journalist didn't work for the media outlet she
claimed to work for? Or because Maxie had misplaced her business card?
No such person at that outlet and never has been, and can't find her
card? Ding ding ding ding ding! That can only mean that she's the ghost
of BJ! It's like the Maxie and Felicia added two and three and got 17,
independently of each other!
That said, I searched online for an explanation and didn't find one, but
did read that the portrayer of BJ's ghost was the same person who
portrayed BJ as a child. Pretty cool!
--
K
Marika
Jan 28, 2024, 9:56:24 PM1/28/24
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Kaitlin <kelly's.d...@324.wharf.st.INVALID> wrote:
Snip…
>
> That said, I searched online for an explanation and didn't find one, but
> did read that the portrayer of BJ's ghost was the same person who
> portrayed BJ as a child. Pretty cool!
That was sweet.
Maybe the red hair was the clue?
Snip…
>
> That said, I searched online for an explanation and didn't find one, but
> did read that the portrayer of BJ's ghost was the same person who
> portrayed BJ as a child. Pretty cool!
Maybe the red hair was the clue?
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