GH - Webber history?
Xkeys
consistantly THE MAN!) got me to thinking about GH history.
I started watching the show when Luke, Laura, and Scorpio stormed Meekos
Cassadine's ice machine fortress; so Luke is thinking about a time a little
before that if I'm remembering correctly....
Anyway, can some of you GH historians out there connect the dots for me on
some Webber family history?
I am confused about who is who in the Webber family tree...I know that
Leslie is Laura's mother but is Rick Webber her father? If not, then who
is? How about Mikey? Also, how are Elizabeth and Sarah Webber related to
the Webbers? Aren't they blood relatives of Laura and thusly isn't
Elizabeth fooling around with Lucky incest?
Lastly, isn't Amy Vining like Laura's half-sister or cousin or something?
If so, why doesn't Laura spend more time with her?
These things have been bugging me! Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Dish1991
>Leslie is Laura's mother but is Rick Webber her father?
no...i don't remember the guys name. rick adopted her legally though.
If not, then who
>is? How about Mikey?
who's mikey?
Also, how are Elizabeth and Sarah Webber related to
>the Webbers?
since laura isn't a 'real' blood webber, that helps right off the bat. rick had
a brother and these are his kids. (funny, i don't think he was biologically a
webber either). i again, sorry, i don't remember the name. laura
(bridgeplayer50) might know more of these details as well as teapot!
Aren't they blood relatives of Laura and thusly isn't
>Elizabeth fooling around with Lucky incest?
>Lastly, isn't Amy Vining like Laura's half-sister or cousin or something?
>If so, why doesn't Laura spend more time with her?
>
amy was adopted, so neither rick or leslie are her biological parents. they
were closer years ago, but amy never became a big character like laura, so
overall, she gets less screen time.
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TraNorris
>who's mikey?
Mikey was Rick's son with Ginny Blake...
>rick had a brother and these are his kids.
Dr. Jeff Webber, a big character in the late 70's/early 80's is Liz's father,
with a yet unnamed mother...
Xkeys
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Ok, I've got it now I think!
Ok...
Rick Webber had a son, Mikey (he is the kid in the Stallone arm-wresting
flick Over The Top, right?) and then married Leslie Webber.
Leslie had a daughter, Laura, that Rick legally adopted as his daughter.
Also, Rick and Leslie adopted Amy Vining as their daughter.
And Rick's brother Jeff had Elizabeth and Sarah Webber off-camera and they
returned to Port Charles.
SO, in summation...LEGALLY SPEAKING Elizabeth Webber and Laura Webber
Spenser are first cousins, right? Have they ever mentioned this?
Also, LEGALLY SPEAKING, Lucky and Elizabeth should be first cousins once
removed or 2nd cousins depending on how you look at kind of thing.
Now...is Audrey Hardy a Webber as well? Didn't the Webber girls stay with
her when they came back to town? YIKES I am getting confused...
TraNorris
***reading again before I post here***
Rick was married to Lesley BEFORE Ginny...(who was a nut job!!!)
legally speaking, I think you are correct, but biologically speaking, Liz &
Lucky are no relation...
KDW
>>her when they came back to town? YIKES I am getting confused...
Audrey is not a Webber. Audrey was married to Steve who was Jeff's biological
father, which did not come out until Jeff was an adult ( I believe?). Audrey is
not Jeff's mother--stepmother. So that is how Sarah and Elizabeth came to live
with Audrey and also know her has their grandmother.
Now how is Steven Lars (is that his name???) related to all the Webbers? I know
he is somehow a brother to Liz since she mentioned him....
politicalthinker ;-)
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TraNorris
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"Dish1991" <dish...@aol.comoESTA> wrote in message
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> >I know that
> >Leslie is Laura's mother but is Rick Webber her father?
>
> no...i don't remember the guys name. rick adopted her legally though.
> who's mikey?
Mike was Rick's stepson with Ginny...the psycho
> Also, how are Elizabeth and Sarah Webber related to
> >the Webbers?
> >Lastly, isn't Amy Vining like Laura's half-sister or cousin or something?
> >If so, why doesn't Laura spend more time with her?
> >
>
> amy was adopted, so neither rick or leslie are her biological parents.
they
> were closer years ago, but amy never became a big character like laura, so
> overall, she gets less screen time.
I thought that Laura was raised by Amy's parents...the Vinings? And then
Leslie popped up and said "which one of you bitches is my daughter" and
claimed Laura cause her nose wasn't quite as funny looking. Then Leslie
became a crack ho and died turning tricks. (or so we thought)
MTavaria
Rick Webber and Jeff Webber are 1/2 brothers. They share a mother. Their
mother was married to Rick's father.
Rick married Leslie. Leslie's biological daughter is Laura. Laura was adopted
by the Vinings, Amy's family. So they are not blood sisters. As a teen, Laura
left the Vinings and moved in with Leslie. When Leslie and Rick married, he
adopted Laura. There are no blood ties between Rick and Laura.
Jeff Webber's biological father is Steve Hardy. Steve married Audrey, but she
is NOT Jeff's mother. So she is not Elizabeth's biological grandmother.
Jeff has 3 kids.
1. Steve Lars, a son, with Heather Webber.
2. Sarah Webber. Her mother is unknown to us, and presumedly still married to
Jeff.
3. Elizabeth Webber. Her mother is also Sarah's mother.
Bottom line? Elizabeth and Laura are not related by blood at all. Liz's
father and Laura's adopted father are 1/2 brothers. So legally I guess they
can be considered cousins.
Just to confuse you more, Heather's cousin is Jason Quartermaine/Morgan's
biological mother, which makes Steven Lars and Jason cousins. But since Steven
Lars and Elizabeth don't have the same mother, Elizabeth and Jason are not
related at all. So if my wish ever comes true and Jason comes back for Liz,
they can be together!
Whew! I really think this would've been easier if I had drawn a chart!
Sparky
Ricki Frankel
> Rick Webber and Jeff Webber are 1/2 brothers. They share a mother. Their
> mother was married to Rick's father.
I can't believe no one has mentioned that Jeff was played by my first soap
crush: Richard Dean Anderson, also of MacGyver and Stargate SG-1. Okay, I
understand that this was really a question about family trees/history, but
to me, this is the most important point. :)
Sandy n ne
thought it was weird that Liz hasnt seen any of her family in years, and doesnt
appear to miss them. Of course, Laura was raised by the Vinings, until she was
15, and left them without a backward glance years ago, and has never been
particularly close to Amy Vining, her sister by adoption.
Sandra
DJ
Every body has their own opinion but I can't see
any feasible reason for such a pairing.
Jason is a thug and he has mental problems also. he doesn't really know
who he is. Then, neither does Lucky.
But wouldn't it be nice for a change for a love story to play out. I
mean Lucky was
there for Liz when she was hurt and lost.
Then she thought she had lost him, and he came back nutty as a
fruitcake, and she invested a lot of time on him (More than necessary).
I think it would be a waste for her to take on another" problem child."
Fluffie
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> *shaking head* it all seems so easy till it's in writing!!! lmao
> ***reading again before I post here***
>
> Rick was married to Lesley BEFORE Ginny...(who was a nut job!!!)
> >Spenser are first cousins, right? Have they ever mentioned this?
> >Also, LEGALLY SPEAKING, Lucky and Elizabeth should be first cousins once
> >removed or 2nd cousins depending on how you look at kind of thing.
> >
NO...Lesley was married to Jeff when they first showed up in Port Charles.
She married him after Rick was presumed dead in an airplane accident. She
never married Rick but had affairs with him during both her marriages to
Jeff and Alan Q.
Fluffie
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Meant to say Monica not Leslie! Boy did I get confused!!!
flutterby
When Leslie found out where her daughter was, at like age 15 or 16, she went
for custody. Amy is Laura's 'sister' in her adopted family....not
biologically related to each other..
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flutterby
a Faulkner. Leslie's husband before Rick, and Laura's father, was a Faulkner
(can't remember his first name). Her only 'relation' to the Webber family
is through marriage. Lucky and Elizabeth would be first cousins, by
marriage only. Plus, Jeff Webber, Elizabeth's father, was not a Webber
really. He was a Hardy.
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PAXCHARGE
>crush: Richard Dean Anderson, also of MacGyver and Stargate SG-1.
Mine too....thanks for the mention, he's still a looker.....
Regards,
Linda
MTavaria
I used to be a huge fan of LL2, back in the day of JJ's Lucky. I thought the 2
actors had great chemistry and well, it just worked. I just don't see that
with NuLucky and Liz. And since Lucky's been back, it seems like Liz isn't her
own person. The world revolves around Lucky. For example, Lucky wanted her to
model, so she did. (Never mind that she didn't like it.) Lucky didn't want
her to hang out with Jason, blah, blah, blah. It doesn't seem like there is
any love story, they're just together b/c they don't know how to be apart.
With Jason, Liz is her own person. She paints, rides, whatever. She's not
whiny, has a backbone, and doesn't make me want to throw things at the screen.
I thought the 2 had great chemistry. They bounced off each other well, and
looked like they were having a good time doing the scenes. It wasn't forced.
And Jason. . .well, beside the obvious fact that the guy is gorgeous, he just
seemed happier with Liz than with Carly and her crazy schemes or Robin with her
"this is what's right, what's wrong, and how you should act". Other than
Emily, Liz seemed like the only person who stood up for Jason for no other
reason than she liked him. I thought the two had potential for a great love
story. . .the last time Steve Burton returned it was obvious, at least in the
beginning. (Remember the fire?) I could go on and on. . .bottom line, they
just work for me.
Well, that's just me.
Sparky
TraNorris
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I liked them too and I don't like Liz so something must have been working.
I like Jason, one of those in the minority.
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>
> These things have been bugging me! Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I think everyone has recreated most of the Webber family history along with
peripheral members except for a couple points.
1. Laura's natural father was not Faulkner. He was the man to whom Lesley was
married at the time she discovered that Laura was alive. Her natural father was
Gordon Gray who had been one of Lesley's professors.
2. Laura was not adopted by the Vinings but had been switched at birth with
their dead daughter who was given to Lesley who was told her child died
immediately after birth. They all believed she was the natural child of the
Vinings and a full sister to Amy.
3. Mike was adopted by Rick Webber (I forget if it was before or after Lesley
died) and long after Laura had left home. Mike turned out to be the natural
child of Ginny Blake (who killed Bobbie's first husband, Brock) and Derek
Barrington, the nephew of Amanda who shows up on GH or PC any time they have a
fund raiser.
Ginny eventually married Rick and they left town. I'm not sure if they ever
addressed the fact that Lesley's return "to life" turned Rick into a bigamist.
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> Xkeys wrote:
>
> >
> > These things have been bugging me! Any help would be greatly
appreciated!
>
> I think everyone has recreated most of the Webber family history along
with
> peripheral members except for a couple points.
>
> 1. Laura's natural father was not Faulkner. He was the man to whom
Lesley was
> married at the time she discovered that Laura was alive. Her natural
father was
> Gordon Gray who had been one of Lesley's professors.
You are right, I was wrong..........Laura is the daughter of Leslie and
Professor Gordan Grey....but it was the result of an affair...not a
marriage..........Leslie was married to Cameron Faulkner when she
discoverd that Laura had not really died at birth.
> 2. Laura was not adopted by the Vinings but had been switched at birth
with
> their dead daughter who was given to Lesley who was told her child died
> immediately after birth. They all believed she was the natural child of
the
> Vinings and a full sister to Amy.
again, you refresh my memory....this is correct...:)
DJ
what
they did with Jason. I just hated the character as much as I loved it
before. I hated Carly and Robin because I still think
Jason and Keesha were beautiful together. (Let me correct that. I always
hated Carly. I just didn't understand how Robin got over Stone that
quickly especially considering her condition. i mean moving on is one
thing...but let's get
real. anyhow thanks for a logical answer.
MTavaria
>what
>they did with Jason.
BAD WRITING, BAD WRITING!!!! If the guy is getting movie deals, he should've
had more of a storyline!
Sparky