does Match Game PM always suck?
DJC (Dan Cox)
Ryan Dziadosz <ryan.d...@gte.net> wrote in message
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> A little history here: In Phoenix AZ on Cox cable, we get the GSN for
only
> a certain part of the day. 12n-6pm. Anyhoo, we don't get MG PM, but
during
> the past couple of weeks, I have become addicted to MG 75.
>
> My friend has satellite and so I went over there to catch me a little
Match
> Game PM for the first time (last night). It was unfunny and the "wackos"
> did not seem to have any sort of camaraderie. And what is with the
> Confederate Flag themed decor? A nod to the "Old South?" Does the
regular
> Match Game get this stale in a bit?
>
it was a lot better when Richard Dawson was on MG PM. Cat...?
Ryan Dziadosz
Jason Compton
: My friend has satellite and so I went over there to catch me a little Match
: Game PM for the first time (last night). It was unfunny and the "wackos"
: did not seem to have any sort of camaraderie. And what is with the
: Confederate Flag themed decor? A nod to the "Old South?" Does the regular
: Match Game get this stale in a bit?
I would say that the average episode of PM is not as good as the average
episode of 74 or 75 that I've seen over the past 8 months. Sometimes
there are gems, often they are pretty humdrum.
Problems:
Editing. Fitting in those three questions means a lot of the yukking
around by the celebrities gets cut. Let's face it, watching contestants
say "boobs" or "wife" as fast as possible is not what makes Match Game fun
to watch. I should point out that PM seemed to drag when it was only two
questions, so in a sense they just can't win.
No returning champions. Come on, were there any Match Game 74 viewers who
WEREN'T rooting for Janet Finn to beat her ditzy opponents and win $5000
every time around? Seeing two bland new faces every night gets boring,
with occasional notes of interest when they're NFL head coaches now or
something like that.
No running jokes. Often you'll see the cast of 7x build up a joke through
the course of the taping day/viewing week, but there's no continuity
between episodes of PM.
--
Jason Compton jcom...@xnet.com
Eric Duncan
don't think that matters) is that the 4th seat, about 3 out 5 times, was the
"dumb blonde seat". Remember 2 weeks ago Friday the Einsine that had a
shoplifter stuffing her bra with TWINKIES? Does anybody agree with me?
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Jared476
>A little history here: In Phoenix AZ on Cox cable, we get the GSN for only
>a certain part of the day. 12n-6pm. Anyhoo, we don't get MG PM, but during
>the past couple of weeks, I have become addicted to MG 75.
>
>My friend has satellite and so I went over there to catch me a little Match
>Game PM for the first time (last night). It was unfunny and the "wackos"
>did not seem to have any sort of camaraderie. And what is with the
>Confederate Flag themed decor? A nod to the "Old South?"
5 problems with that era
1) the awful set
2) No returning champions.
3) No RICHARD DAWSON
4) - awful "celebrity's" ( ie...foster brooks, bill daly, Bowser ?!?!?)
5) - no gary burghoff, nipsy
>Does the regular
>Match Game get this stale in a bit?
only after richard leaves then it all goes downhill for match game, ironically
family feud becomes the #1 show at the same time...coincidence?
James Dobrovicz
I think that the episodes without Richard are actually better in some
ways--the celebrity in Seat 5 actually wants to be there (well, except for
Scoey Mitchlll on yesterday's ep). Now that PM is past when 7x went off the
air and the syndie eps. started, there are more different celebrities
because they didn't have to get permission to have other networks' stars on
a CBS show. PM, though, generally is hit and miss without RD--some panels
are funny and some are not very good at all--be glad you didn't see the
episodes with Audrey Landers. Also be glad you didn't see the MG74 eps. with
Robert Morse or Louisa Moritz.
-- James C. Dobrovicz
"Let me put my glasses on so I can hear you better"
--Brett Somers on MG74
Ryan Dziadosz wrote in message ...
>A little history here: In Phoenix AZ on Cox cable, we get the GSN for only
>a certain part of the day. 12n-6pm. Anyhoo, we don't get MG PM, but
during
>the past couple of weeks, I have become addicted to MG 75.
>
>My friend has satellite and so I went over there to catch me a little Match
>Game PM for the first time (last night). It was unfunny and the "wackos"
>did not seem to have any sort of camaraderie. And what is with the
>Confederate Flag themed decor? A nod to the "Old South?" Does the regular
Zach Horan
>Confederate Flag themed decor? A nod to the "Old South?" Does the regular
>Match Game get this stale in a bit?
The set changed for Both Match Game and Match Game PM in Fall 1978. They're
currently around 1979 or 1980 in the run of MG PM(MG PM ran from 1975-81 as a
weekly nighttime syndicated show, while Match Game 7x ran on CBS from 1973-79,
and a daily syndicated edition of that ran from 1979-82 after CBS dropped the
show)
Beau McClelland
RAICHU FROM POKeMON
Matt Kaiser
> 1) the awful set
I liked the "new" set!
> 2) No returning champions.
MG PM was only on once a week. A returning champ format wouldn't work.
> 3) No RICHARD DAWSON
Believe me, if you've ever seen Richard in his final days of MG PM, his
absence was not missed.
> 4) - awful "celebrity's" ( ie...foster brooks, bill daly, Bowser ?!?!?)I happen to like Bill Daily and Foster Brooks. Bowzer on the the other
hand...
> 5) - no gary burghoff, nipsy
They were on the show from time to time. Correct me if I am wrong, but I
think Gary Burghoff left MASH by '78 and pretty much disappeared after
that.
>
>
> only after richard leaves then it all goes downhill for match game, ironically
> family feud becomes the #1 show at the same time...coincidence?
Feud was ALREADY #1 before Richard left.
Splinknip
how DARE you criticize the set! Cat is doing a blow by blow description of
everything that happens on every Pm show with that set! You must love it!
Chuck Goodson
Jared476 wrote in message <19990805023306...@ng-ff1.aol.com>...
>5 problems with that era
>
>1) the awful set
I actually liked the 2nd set better than the original.
>2) No returning champions.
It was a weekly show, and once-a-week syndie shows rarely (if ever) had
returning champs.
>3) No RICHARD DAWSON
I did miss him.
>4) - awful "celebrity's" ( ie...foster brooks, bill daly, Bowser ?!?!?)
Bill Daily played Howard Borden on "The Bob Newhart Show", but MG was (IMO)
the one show he'll really be known for because of his frequent appearances,
especially during the 1979-80 season.
>only after richard leaves then it all goes downhill for match game,
ironically
>family feud becomes the #1 show at the same time...coincidence?
Actually, FF became the #1 show in its first season (1976-77). MG's ratings
went donwhill because of the time changes during that same season.
But hey, the PM version did have another plus: the $20K top prize offered
during the Star Wheel era!
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Jason Compton
: did not seem to have any sort of camaraderie. And what is with the
: Confederate Flag themed decor? A nod to the "Old South?"
Oh, yeah, I forgot to address this one.
My memory for 1978 isn't what it would be for most people, seeing as how I
was one year old, but when I think of the late 70s I do tend to think of a
little Dixie influence: There's the MG set, the Dukes of Hazzard, all of
the old yearbooks I look at always seem to have people in cowboy getups...
--
Jason Compton jcom...@xnet.com
Jekalb329
the
>: Confederate Flag themed decor? A nod to the "Old South?"
>
>
>was one year old, but when I think of the late 70s I do tend to think of a
>little Dixie influence: There's the MG set, the Dukes of Hazzard, all of
>the old yearbooks I look at always seem to have people in cowboy getups...
>
>
>--
"Boogie Nights" when Don Cheadle (who played Buck Swope in the movie) had a
quarrel about it with his boss at the stereo store and at a pool party with his
co-star "Becky Barnett." Even though they didn't like it, the "cowboy" look
was definitely in. Maybe that's how Buck Swope got his name (intersting role
for a black guy).
You had (in 1978):
The MG '78/PM blue set
Dukes of Hazzard
Little House on the Prarie
Sheriff Lobo/BJ and the Bear
Dallas (or any TV show/movie related to Texas)
any movie starring Burt Reynolds or Clint Eastwood
"I cried in my beer" and "cheatin" songs in country music as well as the
artists went mainstream. Tanya Tucker's song "Texas (when I die)" was a huge
hit.
cowboy boots were usually worn to the office (especially in Texas and Oklahoma)
and The Dallas Cowboys were NFL Super Bowl Champions and became a mainstream
hit worldwide. Huge bitter rivalries with them and the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Jared476
>> 3) No RICHARD DAWSON
>
>Believe me, if you've ever seen Richard in his final days of MG PM, his
>absence was not missed.
I have, & the people here blow it out of proportion, was he as into the game as
he was 73-76...No, But even then he was still better than anybody else on the
panel.
>> 4) - awful "celebrity's" ( ie...foster brooks, bill daly, Bowser ?!?!?)
>I happen to like Bill Daily and Foster Brooks.
WHY?!?!?
>> 5) - no gary burghoff, nipsy
>
>They were on the show from time to time.
they should have been regulars
>> only after richard leaves then it all goes downhill for match game,
>ironically
>> family feud becomes the #1 show at the same time...coincidence?
>
>Feud was ALREADY #1 before Richard left.
Maybe, but the point is the feud was #1 because of richard, & after he left
Match game it sunk in the ratings & was soon cancelled
MusicMan
You rarely get it wrong, but I would have to say that Bill Daily is much
more known for his role as Howard Borden on The Bob newhart Show and even
more remembered for playing Roger Healy on I Dream of Jeanie than for his
turns on MG.
Chuck Goodson wrote in message <7ociup$4dr$1...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>...
>
>Jared476 wrote in message <19990805023306...@ng-ff1.aol.com>...
>>5 problems with that era
>>
>>1) the awful set
>
>I actually liked the 2nd set better than the original.
>
>>2) No returning champions.
>
>It was a weekly show, and once-a-week syndie shows rarely (if ever) had
>returning champs.
>
>>3) No RICHARD DAWSON
>
>I did miss him.
>
>>4) - awful "celebrity's" ( ie...foster brooks, bill daly, Bowser ?!?!?)
>
>Bill Daily played Howard Borden on "The Bob Newhart Show", but MG was (IMO)
>the one show he'll really be known for because of his frequent appearances,
>especially during the 1979-80 season.
>
>
>>only after richard leaves then it all goes downhill for match game,
>ironically
>>family feud becomes the #1 show at the same time...coincidence?
>
>
Rhuds...@aol.com
ryan.d...@gte.net writes:
<< A little history here: In Phoenix AZ on Cox cable, we get the GSN for only
a certain part of the day. 12n-6pm. Anyhoo, we don't get MG PM, but during
the past couple of weeks, I have become addicted to MG 75.
My friend has satellite and so I went over there to catch me a little Match
Game PM for the first time (last night). It was unfunny and the "wackos"
did not seem to have any sort of camaraderie. And what is with the
Confederate Flag themed decor? A nod to the "Old South?" Does the regular
Match Game get this stale in a bit?
>>
Well Match Game PM has it's good nights and its bad nights. You just happened
to tune in on one of the bad nights. I suggest that you tape any episode with
Bill Daley.
As for Match Game 75 nope not until richard leaves in late 78.
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> <snip>
> Didn't Joker Joker Joker have returning champs?
> <snip>
It did.
--Jason "that was my shortest post yet" Wuthrich
Matt Ottinger
> >the one show he'll really be known for because of his frequent appearances,
Wow, posts like this show just how insulated our game show community can
be sometimes!
Bill Daily had major supporting roles in two enormously popular
situation comedies of the sixties and seventies. I loved seeing him on
Match Game too, but trust me here, he's going to be far better
remembered for "I Dream of Jeanie" and "The Bob Newhart Show" than for
his semi-regular appearances on a syndicated game show.
--Matt
otti...@acd.net
Zach Horan
>returning champs.
Didn't Joker Joker Joker have returning champs?
>Bill Daily played Howard Borden on "The Bob Newhart Show", but MG was (IMO)
>the one show he'll really be known for because of his frequent appearances,
Bill also played ALF's psychologist in a recurring role.
Sylvia9012
>Didn't Joker Joker Joker have returning champs?
Yes it did. was that a once a week show too ?
>>Bill Daily played Howard Borden on "The Bob Newhart Show", but MG was (IMO)
>>the one show he'll really be known for because of his frequent appearances,
>
>Bill also played ALF's psychologist in a recurring role.
>
>
of course he was in I Dream of Jeannie too
Zach Horan
>
>Yes it did. was that a once a week show too ?
Yes it was.
Sylvia9012
>>
>>Yes it did. was that a once a week show too ?
>
>Yes it was.
How Episodes total were made then ?
must not to many..
James Fabiano
TV IMO. (Plus it's the set I grew up with :-))
J.F.
Sylvia9012
>situation comedies of the sixties and seventies. I loved seeing him on
>Match Game too, but trust me here, he's going to be far better
>remembered for "I Dream of Jeanie" and "The Bob Newhart Show" than for
>his semi-regular appearances on a syndicated game show.
>
>
He was also on the last 2 seasons of ALF
Zach Horan
>situation comedies of the sixties and seventies
And another somewhat enormously popular sitcom, ALF, in which he played Gordon
Shumway's psychologist.
TGBromley
>Match Game too, but trust me here, he's going to be far better
>remembered for "I Dream of Jeanie" and "The Bob Newhart Show" than for
>his semi-regular appearances on a syndicated game show.
And MG fan though I am, I would probably come up with "Gezorninplatz" as a Bill
Daily series before I'd think of Match Game PM. (And, yes, there was a show by
that title, I swear!)
Tom Bromley tgbr...@aol.com
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As you run down the aisle?"
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Richard Hudson
>>Believe me, if you've ever seen Richard in his final days of MG PM, his
>>absence was not missed.
>
>I have, & the people here blow it out of proportion, was he as into the game
>as
>he was 73-76...No, But even then he was still better than anybody else on the
>panel.
Not a good as Charles and Brett, but still very good. The problem is that they
should have either made Gary Burghoff or Bill Daly
the fifth panelist instead of having another rotating seat. It was either hit
or miss then.
>
>>> 4) - awful "celebrity's" ( ie...foster brooks, bill daly, Bowser ?!?!?)
>
Foster was just so-so, Bower was just STUPID but Bill was great. I have an
hilarious episode featuring him and a $20,000 win.
>>
>>> only after richard leaves then it all goes downhill for match game,
>>ironically
>>> family feud becomes the #1 show at the same time...coincidence?
>>
>>Feud was ALREADY #1 before Richard left.
>
>
>Maybe, but the point is the feud was #1 because of richard, & after he left
>Match game it sunk in the ratings & was soon cancelled
>
>
>
>
>
>>> only after richard leaves then it all goes downhill for match game,
>>ironically
>>> family feud becomes the #1 show at the same time...coincidence?
>>
>>Feud was ALREADY #1 before Richard left.
>
>
>Maybe, but the point is the feud was #1 because of richard, & after he left
>Match game it sunk in the ratings & was soon cancelled
>
Richard Dawson left Match game in '78. Match Game was on the air until '82.
Four years is'nt soon in any definition of the word, espeically when it comes
to game shows.
Match Game was canceled because CBS moved it around too much. And after that it
still lasted 2 years in syndication.
Richard Hudson
RyanC321
Brett Summers (not sure if that is her last name), and Charles Nelson Reily. I
don't think the show would be nearly as funny without Richard, Charles, and
Brett.
jare...@aol.com writes:
>only after richard leaves then it all goes downhill for match game,
>ironically
>family feud becomes the #1 show at the same time...coincidence?
Cat
Did u watch it twice or what? Cat
David Jackino
liked
> >Brett Summers (not sure if that is her last name), and Charles Nelson
Reily. I
> >don't think the show would be nearly as funny without Richard, Charles,
and
> >Brett.
> >
> >
> >jare...@aol.com writes:
> >>only after richard leaves then it all goes downhill for match game,
> >>ironically
> >>family feud becomes the #1 show at the same time...coincidence?
MG was not as good once Dawson (and his ego) left, the addition of the star
wheel and
the sprucing up of the set helped. But I don't think it sucked.
If would likely would have been cancelled sooner if not for Charles and
Brett.
What I did not like was in 1979, when the stars were broken in three, making
it considerably harder to double the $$.
GSN is about through the second running of MG PM since they re-acquired
the rights to the G/T library. I would prefer to see something else from
the
MG collection at 9pm ET. The 1976-1982 CBS/syndicated shows have not aired
since
April 1998 (with one or two "year end" exceptions), and the 1990 ABC version
is also laying around (it was shown once a week Sundays before the "dark
period").
Matt Kaiser
> since
> April 1998 (with one or two "year end" exceptions)
The daytime MG wasn't syndicated till sometime in '79. The nighttime run
(which originally ran once a week)from '75-'81 was syndicated.
,
Foster-Gray
>"Boogie Nights" when Don Cheadle (who played Buck Swope in the movie) had a
>quarrel about it with his boss at the stereo store and at a pool party with
>his
>co-star "Becky Barnett." Even though they didn't like it, the "cowboy" look
>was definitely in. Maybe that's how Buck Swope got his name (intersting role
>for a black guy).
>
>You had (in 1978):
>The MG '78/PM blue set
>
>Dukes of Hazzard
>
>Little House on the Prarie
>
>Sheriff Lobo/BJ and the Bear
>
>Dallas (or any TV show/movie related to Texas)
>
>any movie starring Burt Reynolds or Clint Eastwood
>
>"I cried in my beer" and "cheatin" songs in country music as well as the
>artists went mainstream. Tanya Tucker's song "Texas (when I die)" was a huge
>hit.
>
>cowboy boots were usually worn to the office (especially in Texas and
>Oklahoma)
>
>
>and The Dallas Cowboys were NFL Super Bowl Champions and became a mainstream
>hit worldwide. Huge bitter rivalries with them and the Pittsburgh Steelers.
And the Village People <ducking>.
The ONE and ONLY, Brandon Foster-Gray (I hope)
Zach Horan
>since
>April 1998
October 1997 they last aired.