Ready to Get Flamed (aka Proposal): At the Movies
ilb4ever_2000
chest. I will say this ahead of time: Scoring is heavily influenced by the
likes of Password Plus, etc.
"AT THE MOVIES"
MAIN GAME
Two contestants play.
A board is divided up into a grid of 3x3 and numbered 1-9. Behind each piece
is a part of a picture of a celebrity.
A player picks a number and then has to answer a question concerning the
movies/Hollywood. If they answer correctly, the piece is revealed and they
get three seconds to guess who the celebrity is. If they answer incorrectly,
the question goes to the opponent. If they answer it correctly, you know the
drill. If they don't, the piece goes unrevealed.
The first two pictures are worth $100, then $200, etc. First to $400 or so
moves on...
"PRE-BONUS" ROUND
Now the winning contestant goes here. In 30 seconds, they will try to answer
up to 10 rapid-fire "Hollywood" questions, each worth $50. Next up...
BONUS ROUND
Here, the player has to identify 10 celebrities amongst a number of pictures
(which will all be of the 10 celebrities) flashing across the screen in 60
seconds.
Totaling the money:
$900 (hypothetical amount -- $400 from main game + $500 from pre-bonus
round) X the number of celebrities identified in the bonus round = Grand
Total
If the player gets all 10, they win $10,000.
Kinks: Dollar values may need to be adjusted.
Michael Brandenburg
a.t.g.s. on 8-30-2002:
«««"AT THE MOVIES"
MAIN GAME
Two contestants play.
A board is divided up into a grid of 3x3 and numbered 1-9. Behind each piece
is a part of a picture of a celebrity.
A player picks a number and then has to answer a question concerning the
movies/Hollywood. If s/he answers correctly, the piece is revealed and s/he
gets three seconds to guess who the celebrity is. If s/he answers incorrectly,
the question goes to the opponent. If s/he answers it correctly, you know the
drill. If they don't, the piece goes unrevealed.
The first two pictures are worth $100, then $200, etc. First to $400 or so
moves on...
»»»
A similar show called "Double Exposure" aired on CBS's daytime schedule
during the summer of 1962. Differences between that show and this proposal are
as follows:
1. Each player had their own identical photos of the celebrity they had to
identify and they were covered over with identical jigsaw puzzles having 12
numbered pieces.
2. Each player in turn chose a numbered puzzle piece and then an "electronic
brain" with 12 numbered windows was activated. What showed up in the window
corresponding to the puzzle piece the player selected was what the player had
to take with his/her revealed portion of the celebrity's picture.
3. Six of the windows in the "electronic brain" showed a double-star symbol
when everything came to a halt, and if the player chose a numbered puzzle piece
corresponding to one of those windows, a merchandise prize was put into the
player's bank. Otherwise, the player would receive a money score of $10, $20,
$30, $40, $50, or $60 (one of each of these amounts would appear in the other
six windows of the "electronic brain").
4. The player's selected puzzle piece was then removed from his/her board,
revealing a portion of the celebrity's picture underneath. (No questions had
to be answered by the players in this game.) The player then had an
opportunity to guess the celebrity, and if s/he did so, s/he won the game and
all money and prizes that s/he accumulated up to that point.
5. A player was not allowed to have a money score in excess of $100; if s/he
chose a puzzle piece and received for that selection enough money to put
his/her score over that amount, he/she automatically lost the game.
6. If a player with a money score of $50 or more did not want to take the
risk of going over $100 with his/her next puzzle piece selection, s/he could
"freeze" with that score (providing s/he also had a higher money score than
his/her opponent). If s/he did so, s/he forfeited any merchandise prizes
accumulated during play, but would still win the money s/he accumulated during
play if his/her opponent accumulated a money score of $110 or higher before
identifying the celebrity. However, the "freezing" player would lose the game
if his/her opponent was successful in accumulating a higher money score while
remaining within the $100 threshold. (As on Gambit, there were no ties; thus,
the opponent of a player who managed to hit the $100 threshold on the nose
during play and "froze" with that amount had to identify the celebrity before
"busting" with a higher money total in order to win the game.)
Don't know if Roger Ebert would approve of the proposed title of this show
(he and his partner Gene Siskel chose it for the name of their movie-review
show after they left PBS's "Sneak Previews" show years ago) and I'd play for
points, rather than dollars in the main game. (100, 200, 300, 400, with 500
points winning the game). End game would be all right, though -- maximum of
$500 from first question round times number of celebrities identified in second
part of game, but I would award 20x the question-round money to a player
identifying all ten celebrities in the second part of the game (maximum prize
would still be $10,000).
The biggest problem I see with this proposed show is that it tends to appeal
to a narrower audience than general-knowledge game shows. Still, it might work
on a cable channel devoted primarily to movies.
Michael Brandenburg
("Double Exposure" was a Merrill Heatter- Bob Quigly production!)
Dan Sadro
<akon4t$gmd$1...@nntp-m01.news.aol.com>
>I know most of you don't like proposals, but I feel like getting this off my
>chest. I will say this ahead of time: Scoring is heavily influenced by the
>likes of Password Plus, etc.
Ok, and I don't think ATGS generally dislikes proposals. We dislike bad
proposals, similar to the way we dislike CS2k1.
>"AT THE MOVIES"
>MAIN GAME
>
>Two contestants play.
>
>A board is divided up into a grid of 3x3 and numbered 1-9. Behind each piece
>is a part of a picture of a celebrity.
>
>A player picks a number and then has to answer a question concerning the
>movies/Hollywood. If they answer correctly, the piece is revealed and they
>get three seconds to guess who the celebrity is. If they answer incorrectly,
>the question goes to the opponent. If they answer it correctly, you know the
>drill. If they don't, the piece goes unrevealed.
How do you determine who gets the first shot at the puzzle? The first
player has an advantage in this case.
>The first two pictures are worth $100, then $200, etc. First to $400 or so
>moves on...
Make it just a simple best 2-of-3. You'll see why later.
>"PRE-BONUS" ROUND
>
>Now the winning contestant goes here. In 30 seconds, they will try to answer
>up to 10 rapid-fire "Hollywood" questions, each worth $50. Next up...
Why?
>BONUS ROUND
>
>Here, the player has to identify 10 celebrities amongst a number of pictures
>(which will all be of the 10 celebrities) flashing across the screen in 60
>seconds.
I'm confused. You're giving them 60 seconds to identify 10 pictures, but
only 30 seconds to answer 10 questions (of which take time to ask), and
that at least needs to be reversed.
>Totaling the money:
>
>$900 (hypothetical amount -- $400 from main game + $500 from pre-bonus
>round) X the number of celebrities identified in the bonus round = Grand
>Total
>
>If the player gets all 10, they win $10,000.
Screw that. You have a neat way of totalling money here (similar to
Showoffs or Password '75) and by making a flat sum, you're messing it up.
Not to mention that $700 in the maingame added to the $500 in the prebonus
(stupid name) times 10 celebrities identified is $12,000, and players would
be penalised for answering all 10 right (9 right would be $10,800)
>Kinks: Dollar values may need to be adjusted.
Add to that the bonus round needs more thought. Or some thought.
Add to that the title -- nothing in your game has to do with Movies, except
for the general place of Hollywood.
I think this warrants an official Sadro drawing board.
--
Dan Sadro
reply: dan [@] sadro [.] com
ilb4ever_2000
news:e240nu06o9rvoqi1a...@4ax.com...
If there were returning champions, challenger goes first. If there are none,
a "toss-up" picture will determine the first player.
> >The first two pictures are worth $100, then $200, etc. First to $400 or
so
> >moves on...
>
> Make it just a simple best 2-of-3. You'll see why later.
If this were done, some your following comments kinda become moot.
> >"PRE-BONUS" ROUND
> >
> >Now the winning contestant goes here. In 30 seconds, they will try to
answer
> >up to 10 rapid-fire "Hollywood" questions, each worth $50. Next up...
>
> Why?
Since the maingame would simply be best-2-out-of-3 and there would be no
dollar values attached to those pictures, you'd need the money from here to
come up with a Grand Total later.
> >BONUS ROUND
> >
> >Here, the player has to identify 10 celebrities amongst a number of
pictures
> >(which will all be of the 10 celebrities) flashing across the screen in
60
> >seconds.
>
> I'm confused. You're giving them 60 seconds to identify 10 pictures, but
> only 30 seconds to answer 10 questions (of which take time to ask), and
> that at least needs to be reversed.
OK. 45 seconds for questions. Mind you, in the bonus round, there'd be more
than just 10 pictures.
> >Totaling the money:
> >
> >$900 (hypothetical amount -- $400 from main game + $500 from pre-bonus
> >round) X the number of celebrities identified in the bonus round = Grand
> >Total
> >
> >If the player gets all 10, they win $10,000.
>
> Screw that. You have a neat way of totalling money here (similar to
> Showoffs or Password '75) and by making a flat sum, you're messing it up.
> Not to mention that $700 in the maingame added to the $500 in the prebonus
> (stupid name) times 10 celebrities identified is $12,000, and players
would
> be penalised for answering all 10 right (9 right would be $10,800)
If you get all ten questions right in the "rapid-fire" round, you'd get
$450, plus now you'd get no money from the main game. Times that by 10 and
you only get $4,500. Put the flat sum for all 10 in place and that would
seem like too much of a jump.
> >Kinks: Dollar values may need to be adjusted.
>
> Add to that the bonus round needs more thought. Or some thought.
>
> Add to that the title -- nothing in your game has to do with Movies,
except
> for the general place of Hollywood.
The questions deal with movies.
Dan Sadro
<akpfbh$1lt$1...@nntp-m01.news.aol.com>
[...]
>> Make it just a simple best 2-of-3. You'll see why later.
>
>If this were done, some your following comments kinda become moot.
>
>> >"PRE-BONUS" ROUND
>> >
>> >Now the winning contestant goes here. In 30 seconds, they will try to
>answer
>> >up to 10 rapid-fire "Hollywood" questions, each worth $50. Next up...
>>
>> Why?
>
>Since the maingame would simply be best-2-out-of-3 and there would be no
>dollar values attached to those pictures, you'd need the money from here to
>come up with a Grand Total later.
Or, you adjust the "pre-bonus" round payout. Or award a certain amount of
money ($500) for winning the match.
[...]
>> >Totaling the money:
>> >
>> >$900 (hypothetical amount -- $400 from main game + $500 from pre-bonus
>> >round) X the number of celebrities identified in the bonus round = Grand
>> >Total
>> >
>> >If the player gets all 10, they win $10,000.
>>
>> Screw that. You have a neat way of totalling money here (similar to
>> Showoffs or Password '75) and by making a flat sum, you're messing it up.
>> Not to mention that $700 in the maingame added to the $500 in the prebonus
>> (stupid name) times 10 celebrities identified is $12,000, and players
>would
>> be penalised for answering all 10 right (9 right would be $10,800)
>
>If you get all ten questions right in the "rapid-fire" round, you'd get
>$450, plus now you'd get no money from the main game. Times that by 10 and
>you only get $4,500. Put the flat sum for all 10 in place and that would
>seem like too much of a jump.
How would it only be $4500? It would be $5000. And if you added, as I
proposed, $500 for winning the maingame, it would be $10,000. Or, if you
have every question in the prebonus worth $100 and no award for winning the
maingame, you will have a top payout of (you guessed it) $10,000.
Why did you not respond to the part about the HUGE flaw in the endgame
scoring where $700+$500 * 9 ($10,800) would beat $700+$500 * 10 ($12,000 --
but reduced to $10,000 due to the rule about 10=$10,000)
R8m6fg
>I know most of you don't like proposals, but I feel like getting this off my
>chest. I will say this ahead of time: Scoring is heavily influenced by the
>likes of Password Plus, etc.
I enjoy them, Its nice to see ideas
>"AT THE MOVIES"
>MAIN GAME
>
>Two contestants play.
>
>A board is divided up into a grid of 3x3 and numbered 1-9. Behind each piece
>is a part of a picture of a celebrity.
>
>A player picks a number and then has to answer a question concerning the
>movies/Hollywood.
being that its called at the movies, I would do this:
select the sqares a-la PYL.. A clip of a movie would play, and the first
contestant to buzz-in and answer correctly gets to see a part of that movie
stars' picture behind that square.
> If they answer correctly, the piece is revealed and they
>get three seconds to guess who the celebrity is. If they answer incorrectly,
>the question goes to the opponent. If they answer it correctly, you know the
>drill. If they don't, the piece goes unrevealed.
>
>The first two pictures are worth $100, then $200, etc. First to $400 or so
>moves on...
>
>"PRE-BONUS" ROUND
>
>Now the winning contestant goes here. In 30 seconds, they will try to answer
>up to 10 rapid-fire "Hollywood" questions, each worth $50. Next up...
WAY too difficult: have a 60-second clock, and each question should be
worth $500, you'll see why later.
>BONUS ROUND
>
>Here, the player has to identify 10 celebrities amongst a number of pictures
>(which will all be of the 10 celebrities) flashing across the screen in 60
>seconds.
>
I like this. Now, $5000 is the pre-bonus round maximum. each celebrity
guessed should multiply the number you won in the pre-bonus game (lets say in
the pre-bonus game you won $4500 and you guess 6 celebrities, you would win
$27,000) for a maximum of $50,000
ilb4ever_2000
Anywho...
Best 2-of-3, no money reward - Maingame
$100 per question - Prebonus (45 seconds)
Prebonus total X celebrities identified = Grand Total - Endgame (60 seconds)
And I'm gonna say that now in the prebonus, you are no longer limited to 10
questions.