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Robert Mackey

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Jun 21, 2001, 10:05:05 PM6/21/01
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Wanna know how much TV has changed since "All in the
Family?"

In the early 1970's, CBS censors were very careful to
quota the usage of "hell" and "damn", about six per
half hour.

The day before Carroll O'Connor died, "South Park"
aired an episode in which a word describing a scatological
function was used in excess of 150 times.

Don't know if change is always for the better, but
Carroll changed America. He dared hold up a mirror
to expose our moral misgivings, and made us reassess
our stand on many issues of creed and color. In his
own loud, Bush-would-be-proud, malapropism-laden
way, Archie Bunker was as important a civil rights
leader than any in our country.

Rest in peace, Archie. (Hope they have chairs that
comfy in Heaven.)

--Robair

Zach Horan

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Jun 21, 2001, 10:14:02 PM6/21/01
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>Rest in peace, Archie. (Hope they have chairs that
>comfy in Heaven.)
>

Carroll will be reunited with his beloved son Hugh now. RIP Archie :)

Jim

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Jun 21, 2001, 10:46:52 PM6/21/01
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Mr. O'Connor certainly saw the highs and lows in life. You can be on top of
the world on a hit tv show and still have a void in your life with the death
of a child. I don't think he got the credit he deserved as an actor. I can
think of few others who could have played a character like Archie so
believably.


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> Just thought y'all would want to know, even though I don't know of any GS
> connection ...
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> -- Geno
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Zach Horan

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Jun 21, 2001, 10:45:25 PM6/21/01
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>> Just thought y'all would want to know, even though I don't know of any GS
>> connection ...
>>

There's a very remote GS connection here: Carroll was a guest on Geoff Edwards'
ill fated Radio Tonight radio show last Summer.

CG

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Jun 22, 2001, 12:05:13 AM6/22/01
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162 times!

Weren't you watching. :-D


Chuck

william brewington

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Jun 21, 2001, 9:19:03 PM6/21/01
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Wasn't he also on 70's Squares?

R.I.P The Great One (II)

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Stephan Mynarkiewicz

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Jun 21, 2001, 11:21:24 PM6/21/01
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> Just thought y'all would want to know, even though I don't know of any GS
> connection ...

Ole Sherm' isn't gonna be happy...


John Sergent

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Jun 22, 2001, 3:03:16 AM6/22/01
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In article <9gudj...@enews1.newsguy.com>,
"Stephan Mynarkiewicz" <cats...@newsguy.com> wrote:

Rob Reiner was on his show and was the first to give away the big money
on The $10,000 Pyramid, right? That's enough of a connection!

John

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Jun 22, 2001, 10:17:04 AM6/22/01
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Why is today's TV so bad, with shows like SURVIVOR, FEAR FACTOR and other stuff
that's not an old-guard game show, family comedy or good-guy drama? Could it
be that shows like ALL IN THE FAMILY helped punch holes into the tube that will
not heal, but only get bigger? Who's to say that MARRIED WITH CHILDREN and BIG
BROTHER aren't ALL IN THE FAMILY on steroids?

Sherman Potter

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Jun 22, 2001, 1:33:11 PM6/22/01
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"Stephan Mynarkiewicz" <cats...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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Shaddap, Meathead.

Not only did Carroll O'Connor play the man who was the first to flush
his toilet on television, Carroll O'Connor made the first open reference to
an abortion on television (when Gloria had the miscarriage he asked Mike if
they had "done something illegal"). He may have sold out toward the end of
"All In The Family," but the man made a lot of things on television
possible.

Let us not forget that the self-same Meathead, Rob Reiner, was
responsible for the first successful trip to the Winner's Circle on the
"$10,000 Pyramid" back in the 70s.


Matt Kaiser

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Jun 22, 2001, 3:45:26 PM6/22/01
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> Don't know if change is always for the better, but
> Carroll changed America.

While that's true, let's also give credit to Norman Lear, who decided
to adapt the British series "Till Death Do Us Part" that eventually
became All in the Family.

Carroll's career could've been very different if he had landed another
role he auditioned for.... the Skipper on Gilligan's Island!
According to Sherwood Schwartz, the Skipper was hardest to cast.
Still, wouldn't it have been interesting to see a more Archie-like
Skipper trying to berate the mindless Gilligan.

> Rest in peace, Archie. (Hope they have chairs that
> comfy in Heaven.)

And here's hoping you've reached the "right heaven"! (Only the All in
the Family buffs are going to get that joke)
> --Robair

Curt Alliaume

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Jun 22, 2001, 10:17:26 PM6/22/01
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In article <20010622101704...@ng-ch1.aol.com>,
cyber...@aol.compostheap (John) writes:

Off topic:

Of course, without groundbreaking shows like All in the Family, there wouldn't
have been series like Sanford and Son, Lou Grant, Hill Street Blues, or
M*A*S*H, that showed the seamier side of life with characters that couldn't be
easily pigeonholed, with programs that could be remembered for more than the
following set of commercials.

I was never a big fan of All in the Family, but its significance on the history
of television cannot be overstated.

-- Curt Alliaume
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Linda

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Jun 23, 2001, 1:39:58 AM6/23/01
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>From: "Jim" ji...@infinet.com

>Mr. O'Connor certainly saw the highs and lows in life. You can be on top of
>the world on a hit tv show and still have a void in your life with the death
>of a child. I don't think he got the credit he deserved as an actor. I
>can
>think of few others who could have played a character like Archie so
>believably.


Very well put and I agree 100 percent.

linda


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RMK

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Jun 23, 2001, 8:14:16 AM6/23/01
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TVLand has preempted its scheduled "Alfred Hitchcock Presents"
Fandamonium marathon to show a weekend of "All in the Family" episodes.
I know its OT but with so many posts about the man here, I thought I'd
let everyone know.

http://www.tvland.com/obits/oconnor/index.jhtml

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