Royalties for GS hosts and celebrities
Jess Hernandez
Hi!
This is my first time posting here on a.t.g-s so please be gentle with me. I
have a question that has been on my mind for a while now.
Recently, Charles Grodin on his CNBC talk show, mentioned that he had recently
received a royalty check from (Johnny) Carson Productions for $2.33, for his
appearence on either one of those videos of "Tonight Show" highlights, or the
re-runing of one of those "Tonight Show" anniversary specials, that have on
aired on The Family Channel. That got me to wondering. Do game show hosts
like Bob Barker, Jim Lange, Chuck Barris, Tom Kennedy, or even the estate of
Bill Cullen get money for episodes that are re-run on GSN. For that matter,
do any of those stars that appear on game shows, like Jaye P. Morgan, Billy
Crystal, Charles Nelson Riley, or Betty White, get a check for these
appearences.
Thanks in advance
Jess
(who now MUST!!! get DirectTV with all the great G-T shows returning to GSN!)
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>
>Hi!
>
>This is my first time posting here on a.t.g-s so please be gentle with me. I
>have a question that has been on my mind for a while now.
>
>Recently, Charles Grodin on his CNBC talk show, mentioned that he had
>recently
>received a royalty check from (Johnny) Carson Productions for $2.33, for his
>appearence on either one of those videos of "Tonight Show" highlights, or
>the
>re-runing of one of those "Tonight Show" anniversary specials, that have on
>aired on The Family Channel. That got me to wondering. Do game show hosts
>like Bob Barker, Jim Lange, Chuck Barris, Tom Kennedy, or even the estate of
>Bill Cullen get money for episodes that are re-run on GSN. For that matter,
>do any of those stars that appear on game shows, like Jaye P. Morgan, Billy
>Crystal, Charles Nelson Riley, or Betty White, get a check for these
>appearences.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Jess
>(who now MUST!!! get DirectTV with all the great G-T shows returning to GSN!)
>
>
well, when Mr. Game Show was still appearing on GSN, I called in once asking
about that, the producer that answered the phone didn't want me to ask him, and
he himself said that he does not believe so.
bh4
(Bill Hughes IV)
"Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist party, or a
fellow traveler?"
Gmshwfan
In article <6g0mu5$b6i$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, Jess Hernandez
<citr...@cyberg8t.com> writes:
>This is my first time posting here on a.t.g-s so please be gentle with me. I
>have a question that has been on my mind for a while now.
No need -- this is an excellent question!
>Recently, Charles Grodin on his CNBC talk show, mentioned that he had recently
>received a royalty check from (Johnny) Carson Productions for $2.33, for his
>appearence on either one of those videos of "Tonight Show" highlights, or
>the re-runing of one of those "Tonight Show" anniversary specials, that have
on
>aired on The Family Channel. That got me to wondering. Do game show hosts
>like Bob Barker, Jim Lange, Chuck Barris, Tom Kennedy, or even the estate of
>Bill Cullen get money for episodes that are re-run on GSN. For that matter,
>do any of those stars that appear on game shows, like Jaye P. Morgan, Billy
>Crystal, Charles Nelson Riley, or Betty White, get a check for these
>appearences.
Most of the celebs and hosts do receive a very minor royalty for each airing.
It's a standard SAG/AFTRA clause of the day. I doubt any of them expected the
shows to be rerun, however. I don't know how much the residual would be,
though.
'Brian
"Politics leads Americans to tighten up and withdraw like constipated English
aristocrats. It leads the English to relax and extend like American car
salesmen."
-- Michael Lewis, writing about the British election in "Slate" magazine.
C319Chris
-Everyone- who appeared on a game show except contestants had to be an AFTRA
member and receives a royalty for each GSN telecast. This includes emcees,
announcers, models, panelists (both permanent and occasional), on-camera
security guards, even old man Goodson himself!
Not only does talent receive royalties, but so do directors and, of all people,
musical composers. Ironcially, producers usually do not receieve royalties
unless it was specifically written into their personal services contract. So
for a typical episode of Match Game '75, royalties are paid to:
Gene Rayburn
Six panelists
The Estate of Johnny Olson
Marc Breslow (director)
Composers of Match Game music (Score Productions)
Royalties are not paid to
Producers
Writers
Production Staff
CBS Crew
wal...@aol.com
In article <199804030218...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
gmsh...@aol.com (Gmshwfan) wrote:
>
> In article <6g0mu5$b6i$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, Jess Hernandez
> <citr...@cyberg8t.com> writes:
>
> >This is my first time posting here on a.t.g-s so please be gentle with me.
I
> >have a question that has been on my mind for a while now.
>
> No need -- this is an excellent question!
>
> >Recently, Charles Grodin on his CNBC talk show, mentioned that he had
recently
> >received a royalty check from (Johnny) Carson Productions for $2.33, for
his
> >appearence on either one of those videos of "Tonight Show" highlights, or
> >the re-runing of one of those "Tonight Show" anniversary specials, that
have
> on
> >aired on The Family Channel. That got me to wondering. Do game show hosts
> >like Bob Barker, Jim Lange, Chuck Barris, Tom Kennedy, or even the estate
of
> >Bill Cullen get money for episodes that are re-run on GSN. For that
matter,
> >do any of those stars that appear on game shows, like Jaye P. Morgan, Billy
> >Crystal, Charles Nelson Riley, or Betty White, get a check for these
> >appearences.
The residuals that game show hosts receive vary, especially if the
game show originally aired many years ago. Typically, the residuals are pretty
high within the first three years of syndication, after that, they fall. Also,
the residuals a game show host does receive is based heavily on the AFTRA/SAG
contract. Many game show hosts still receive a small residual check for
programs that were produced over thirty years ago that GSN is running today.
Hope this helps. Wally Bruner Jr.
C319Chris
AFAIK, cable was not even a consideration as few as 15 years ago. Whether a
new royalty schedule was drawn up for cable, I have no idea. As it was
explained to me, GSN had to go out and execute new talent releases just for
cable, because cable wasn't in the talent release until just recently. Does
this square with what you know?
Glad to have you aboard, Wally. Keep on posting!
tk...@nyx.net
C319Chris <c319...@aol.com> wrote:
: AFAIK, cable was not even a consideration as few as 15 years ago. Whether a
: new royalty schedule was drawn up for cable, I have no idea. As it was
: explained to me, GSN had to go out and execute new talent releases just for
: cable, because cable wasn't in the talent release until just recently. Does
: this square with what you know?
Actaully, Gil Fates covered this in his book on WNL. He stated that (when
WML @25 was produced), that teh panel would get paid for rerun
performances of the show.
So, on WML @25, the only folks who got royalty checks were John Daly, the
panelists, teh estates of the deceased ones.
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MJsaints
Previously on a.t.g-s, Terry Knab said:
>So, on WML @25, the only folks who got royalty checks were John Daly, the
>panelists, teh estates of the deceased ones.
To clarify, John Daly, the alive panelists and the estates of the deceased
panelists got residuals because they were for longer than two minutes. To get
the show produced under the low budgets that ABC latenight offered them, they
decided to only pay residuals to people who were seen in the final program for
two minutes or longer and got permission from all celebs to use clips. After
AP Pamela Usdan timed everything out carefully, only the regulars got
residuals.
This has become standard practice for TV clip/retrospective specials.
Mark Jeffries--from wherever there's a computer with AOL in Chicago
wal...@aol.com
In article <199804041014...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
c319...@aol.com (C319Chris) wrote:
>
> AFAIK, cable was not even a consideration as few as 15 years ago. Whether a
> new royalty schedule was drawn up for cable, I have no idea. As it was
> explained to me, GSN had to go out and execute new talent releases just for
> cable, because cable wasn't in the talent release until just recently. Does
> this square with what you know?
>
>
Bruner) had with What's My Line? AFTRA stated that they had to re-negotiate
all contracts with Sony Pictures Entertainment in order to determine
residuals. Who would have thought after all of those years game show
contracts would be re-negotiated! Thanks for the welcome! Wally Bruner