Was this particular episode the turning point for the show w/the censors? Even
Jaye P. had a popsicle!
This was the turning point for the censors as they were not very happy campers.
I also think it was a time where Chuck wanted to do more producing and less
hosting.
I recall them doing the act to the song "I'm In The Mood For Love". Can it
be that they ended up doing more than one show, and hence the name change?
And Jaye P. was causing them too much money in censorship, and at towards
the end of the show's run was removed as a panelist.
A lot of the music in "The Gong Show Movie" was newly recorded and
dubbed over the originals. The result was absolutely horrible.
(Certainly not DeLugg's finest hour.) I'm certain the act was taped
without any musical accompaniment, either from the BWAT or otherwise.
(Did you catch those canned NBC oohs which may have been put in to
squelch perhaps some of the racier comments?)
> And it's amazing that Jaye P.'s comment, "That's how I got started in the
> business!" was not originally edited out by NBC - how did Standards &Practices
> let that one pass??!
The late Herminio Traviesas, who was NBC's chief of s&p through much of
the 70's, was noted for letting one questionable bon mot slip by if you
put several dozen of them into your show. Robin Williams called the
technique "etting s--t through the radar". Travie and his staff had
their hands full at this time between "Saturday Night Live" on the East
coast and "The Gong Show" in Burbank.
Dave
"This is me saying.....bye-bye"
Chuck Barris, "The Gong Show"
>> And it's amazing that Jaye P.'s comment, "That's how I got started in the
>> business!" was not originally edited out by NBC - how did Standards
>&Practices
>> let that one pass??!
>
>The late Herminio Traviesas, who was NBC's chief of s&p through much of
>the 70's, was noted for letting one questionable bon mot slip by if you
>put several dozen of them into your show. Robin Williams called the
>technique "etting s--t through the radar". Travie and his staff had
>their hands full at this time between "Saturday Night Live" on the East
>coast and "The Gong Show" in Burbank.
I suspect some of the censors also let material go by they didn't understand
(example: Jane Crowley letting an SNL Weekend Update opening with an alleged
candy bar spot that was a subtle reference to a sex act). I think it's also
possible The Gong Show got away with a lot because NBC didn't normally cover
game shows -- or if they did, they saw material from Hollywood Squares and
Celebrity Sweepstakes before it aired, whereas The Gong Show's celebrity
one-liners were (probably) ad libbed. (I'm just guessing on this... Dave, I
know you know more about it than I.)
-- Curt Alliaume
Censors are sometimes young and don't understand certain things. For months,
Johnny and Doc talked about the Fugawee Indians on The Tonight Show before
someone at NBC finally got the joke. It was banned from future shows and had
to be edited out of reruns. (The joke has has to do with how the lost Indian
tribe got its name. The tribe was wandering around in circles before one
tribal member finally stopped and asked, "Where the f*** are we?")
Music frequently has to be changed for movies and home videos. There is a
compulsory license for songs for TV and radio that does not exist for film,
so you have to get permission to use a song in a film. Similarly, a song may
have been licensed for a film, but that license may not have covered home
video. This situation was more common in the early days of home video.
Nowadays, licenses generally cover all versions of a film (the film itself,
pay-per-view, premium TV, basic cable, network TV, syndicated TV, VHS, Beta,
laser disc, DVD, etc., plus any other form that may be invented in the
future).
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> candy bar spot that was a subtle reference to a sex act). I think it's also
> possible The Gong Show got away with a lot because NBC didn't normally cover
> game shows -- or if they did, they saw material from Hollywood Squares and
> Celebrity Sweepstakes before it aired, whereas The Gong Show's celebrity
> one-liners were (probably) ad libbed. (I'm just guessing on this... Dave, I
> know you know more about it than I.)
Actually, reps from Standards and Practices were required to be on hand
at every "Gong Show" taping, as with all network game shows. Even though
"Gong" was more played for laughs, the S&P people still had to make sure
that the score was being kept accurately, that the acts were not being
gonged too soon, etc.
Incidentally, I saw something funny. Electronic Media is soliciting news
bloopers, for whatever purpose I don't know. But the ad is festooned
with a big gray overprinted OOPS! that looks EXACTLY like the famous
"Gong Show" OOPS! Same typeface, same angle, same everything!
Dave
P.D. in N.J.
You'd be upset too if you were in charge of standards of a TV network
and the producer of one of your shows brought a couple of girls on to
basically fellate popsicles! ;)
But that's the kind of guy Chuckie Baby was... bless him.
Dave