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StvHerbert

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Nov 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/11/99
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I think Beth Plummer will go far on the November 11 "Who Wants to Be a
Millionaire," and thanks to a bubbly personality, possibly parley this into
something else in television, a la Charles Van Doren, who got a job on the
"Today" show after his "Twenty-One" victories.

What do you think?

Steven Herbert

Steve

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StvHerbert wrote in message
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Or Dr. Joyce Brothers. She won "The $64,000 Question" with her knowledge of
boxing, which might have been a factor in her appearing on TV frequently
afterwards, though her background as a psychologist helped.

I see Beth as more of a "Good Morning America" [another fine ABC program]
contributor, but what are her strengths? They didn't have time last night
to reveal what she does, so we'll know soon enough.

Steve
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Goongas

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Nov 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/11/99
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Aren't some of you overreacting? She only answered two questions right so
far...

Eric

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>I think Beth Plummer will go far on the November 11 "Who Wants to Be a
>Millionaire," and thanks to a bubbly personality, possibly parley this into
>something else in television, a la Charles Van Doren, who got a job on the
>"Today" show after his "Twenty-One" victories.
>
>What do you think?


i think she's hiding that bubbly personality pretty well so far.

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Jim

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StvHerbert wrote in message
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>I think Beth Plummer will go far on the November 11 "Who Wants to Be a
Millionaire," and thanks to a bubbly personality, possibly parley this into
something else in television, a la Charles Van Doren, who got a job on the
"Today" show after his "Twenty-One" victories.
>
>What do you think?


When she discussed weightlifting and Anapolis (unsure of the spelling),
I thought she was of an above-average intellect. She carried herself well
and spoke like an adult, not like a blond airhead.
Unfortunately, I saw her play. The Mother Teresa question was simple.
She died only a couple of years ago and the news reports did not disclose an
unusual age like 104 or something close. Her mother sounded like Marge
Simpson on the phone, and the father may get some heat for not knowing what
years represented the 20th century. (Two thoughts after I heard him ask her
when the 20th century was: 1.)No sir, the 20th century ran from 1659 to
1783. 2.) Maybe he was hinting the 20th century actually started in 1901
instead of 1900 and will actually end in 2001 instead of 2000.)
"Travels With Charley" was a literature question - not a biased "guy"
question. That's pretty standard high school reading material anyone with
half a brain should know.
Overall, she was mediocre - pretty but not impressive in her play.
She needed lifelines very early and couldn't answer questions in the 8 to
16K range without help. Of course, she did better than llama-boy, and I bet
she would have known what a creel was, that a full house beats three of a
kind, or that Bob Dole ran in 1996.
One thing, though, about the "now we have a woman" spiel used on the
show. Regis went a bit overboard in trying to silence critics that there
are no women by literally trembling with excitement, "Here's one." That's
one of the biggest mistakes which cheapens the whole discussion of the
relevance and need for affirmative action. Saying "We had one," or "We
hired one," does not render prior criticisms moot. Concerns over contestant
selection remain as they were before Beth arrived, regardless of how you
feel about the whole thing. To make Beth the standard bearer for womankind
was unfair to her.
One last thing, Regis went overboard with the jokes about visiting the
dentist. "Give the player some slack, Reege," I wanted to say to him after
the umpteenth "How's it feel to be under pressure, asshole?" barb Regis
flung. I liked that contestant, and am glad he did well.


Matt Ottinger

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wrest...@my-deja.com wrote:

> Yeah -- but it can't hurt to think...

From what I've been able to tell, in this group it DOES hurt some people
to think...

--Matt
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In article <19991111164357...@ng-fi1.aol.com>,

goo...@aol.com (Goongas) wrote:
> Aren't some of you overreacting? She only answered two questions
right so
> far...

Yeah -- but it can't hurt to think...

WF


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DLettermen

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Nov 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/12/99
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>>I think Beth Plummer will go far on the November 11 "Who Wants to Be a
>>Millionaire," and thanks to a bubbly personality, possibly parley this into
>>something else in television, a la Charles Van Doren, who got a job on the
>>"Today" show after his "Twenty-One" victories.
>>
>>What do you think?
>

Nope, the reason while Van Doren became "famous" was two reasons....

(A) Back then, it was a bigger deal than even now. As big as WWTBAM is now,
I'm obviously not old enough at 26 to truely remember, but, maybe someone can
tell me, those shows were even BIGGER.
(B) He was on the show for many episodes, maybe even into double digits? The
only contestant I can think of that's probably been on the same game show show
longer is the Military guy on TTD in the early 80s who won like 6 cars and over
$300,000 I think (I remember that well, I got nervous watching him play
wondering if he'd keep winning and I was only 9 or 10!)

The person who will be "famous" will be the first one who DOES hit a million.
Assuming they have some type of decent personality, I predict a whirlwind tour
on TV for that person:
(A) Appearance on Good Morning America the day after the show airs
(B) Appearance on Regis & Kathy Lee (seems like a no-brainer)
(C) Although on another network, I think Letterman might bring the person on to
read a Top 10 List "Top 10 Things You Say Right After you win a Million
Dollars" (or something to that effect)
(D) Possibly a few other shows (maybe a panelist on PI?, since its ABC, maybe
some of the syndicated talk shows like Martin Short, etc).


John

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>>I think Beth Plummer will go far on the November 11 "Who Wants to Be a
>>Millionaire," and thanks to a bubbly personality, possibly parley this into
>>something else in television, a la Charles Van Doren, who got a job on the
>>"Today" show after his "Twenty-One" victories.

Me, I'd like to see Chacko George (JEOPARDY teen finalist) as an on-air
personality, if only because of his name.

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CaseyAbell

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>>Regis went a bit overboard in trying to silence critics that there are no
women by literally trembling with excitement, "Here's one." That's
one of the biggest mistakes which cheapens the whole discussion of the
relevance and need for affirmative action.<<

I think you know that you'll get an argument on whether there's ANY need for
affirmative action on a game show (or anywhere else, for that matter). In fact,
if losing contestants got wind that the show was intentionally slanting to one
sex or the other, you could be looking at a lawsuit. Jeopardy got into hot
water with its "female-oriented" answers, and I doubt that any other show will
try anything remotely close.

BTW, how is Bob Dole's race in 1996 a "male-oriented" subject? Did they repeal
the Nineteenth Amendment? Last time I checked, about as many women vote as men.

>>One last thing, Regis went overboard with the jokes about visiting the
dentist. "Give the player some slack, Reege," I wanted to say to him after
the umpteenth "How's it feel to be under pressure, asshole?" barb Regis flung.
I liked that contestant, and am glad he did well.<<

I liked the dentist, too, and it was nice that he won big. But my mouth's been
worked over by the dental profession once too often, so I didn't mind any of
Regis' barbs. It WAS nice to see the dentist squirm for once.

Finally, I agree with your comments on Beth Plummer. Cute and pleasant, but not
a particularly good player. Not a particularly bad one, either.

Casey Abell,
who harbors evil thoughts about dentists pursued by their own drills.


Leszek Pawlowicz

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Nov 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/12/99
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So by my count, there have been 41 men and 9 women in the Fast Finger
Round, and 12 men and 1 woman in the Hot Seat. With 8 men and 2 women
in tomorrow night's game, doesn't look like that's going to change
much.

StvHerbert

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>I bet she would have known what a creel was, that a full house beats three of
a
kind, or that Bob Dole ran in 1996.

How (and when) did someone mess this up? Please e-mail me with the details.

Steven Herbert

Bennet K. Langlotz

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Nov 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/12/99
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"Jim" <ji...@infinet.com> wrote:

> One last thing, Regis went overboard with the jokes about visiting the
>dentist. "Give the player some slack, Reege," I wanted to say to him after
>the umpteenth "How's it feel to be under pressure, asshole?" barb Regis
>flung. I liked that contestant, and am glad he did well.

I think he should have told Regis to floss himself for denigrating the
profession. Rather cheap and somewhat mean.

I would not have let Regis bad mouth lawyers (my profession) without a
barb in return.
--
Bennet K. Langlotz
ne...@langlotz.com

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Nov 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/12/99
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In article <19991111171358...@ng-ff1.aol.com>,

sid...@aol.com (SID RENO) wrote:
> IF THERE WILL BE ONE GAME SHOW STAR IT WILL BE GREED's AIR TRAFFIC
CONTROLLER
> ----CURTIS can you say really pushing tin

Yes, a sad commentary on television today.

Jim

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In the Summer run, the question was asked (paraphrasing) who was the
Republican nominee for President in 1996? I think the answers were Dole,
George Bush, and two other lesser knowns. The woman took quite a while to
answer Dole. I don't remember if she used a lifeline, but for something as
simple as that she admitted she was guessing. That is fine if you have an
8th grade education, but this lady had an advanced degree, as I recall, and
held a literate job. Then, after she won, she smugly said, "I never look at
that side of the ballot." Let the professionals do the humor, honey.

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DLettermen

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Nov 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/13/99
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Well, there are people like that out there. When I was working at Sears (make
the joke about that where you may) someone who I was talking to, who also
worked there, on the day of the 1992 election, had never heard of Ross Perot.
Now, I wouldn't have anything against someone not liking him, or even knowing
too much about him, but, what kind of cave would you have had to have lived in
not to sort of "know" the name Ross Perot, even if only as that "annoying
little old guy on tv". There are just some generally ignorant people out
there.

Curt Alliaume

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Nov 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/14/99
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In article <382B96DB...@acd.net>, Matt Ottinger <otti...@acd.net>
writes:

>> > Aren't some of you overreacting? She only answered two questions
>> right so
>> > far...
>> Yeah -- but it can't hurt to think...
>

>From what I've been able to tell, in this group it DOES hurt some people
>to think...

<Monty Python>"My brain hurts!"</Monty Python>

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Phoebe9294

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> "Travels With Charley" was a literature question - not a biased "guy"
>question. That's pretty standard high school reading material anyone with
>half a brain should know.

I beg to differ. I was in an advanced placement American literature class as a
junior in high school in the early 1980s (before California education went
completely in the toilet), and the Steinbeck we read was "The Grapes of Wrath,"
not "Travels With Charley." I would not have seen Steinbeck as the
poodle-owning type, although had I been in the hot seat, eventually I might
have deduced that after using a 50-50.
I think burning two lifelines on whether Mother Teresa was born in this century
when she died two years ago in her late 80s (do the math!) was more indicative
of her chances than knowing "Travels With Charley" was the literary "Harry and
Tonto."

> Of course, she did better than llama-boy,

Someone bring me up to speed: Who was llama-boy? Was this early in the summer
run?

Gene Rayburn at end of episode: "What can we do in 28 seconds?"
Brett Somers: "The same thing you used to do in 28 minutes!"
-- "Match Game 1974"

SJim67

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>> "Travels With Charley" was a literature question - not a biased "guy"
>>question. That's pretty standard high school reading material anyone with
>>half a brain should know.
>

That's pretty harsh. And although it crops up on some HS reading lists I
wouldn't call it "standard." "Of Mice and Men" and "The Grapes of Wrath" are
much more common Steinbeck works read in HS.

SJim67

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Nov 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/14/99
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>Someone bring me up to speed: Who was llama-boy? Was this early in the summer
>run?
>

That would be Robby Roseman from the August series, the only contestant to ever
bomb out on the first question. The question was "Hannibal crossed the Alps
using what animal?" After burning the 50/50, he was left with "elephant" and
"llamas" as his two remaining choices. He chose llamas and went home with zip,
thus the various llama references and jokes you see around here.

John Charles Daly

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Nov 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/14/99
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Previously on a.t.g-s, Ms. Phoebe the Q fan asked:

>Someone bring me up to speed: Who was llama-boy? Was this early in the summer
>run?

Robby Roseman, a guy who works at the Mercantile Exchange in Chicago. On a
Sunday night show in the last run, he was asked for $100 "What animals did
Hannibal use to cross the Alps?" He answered--with the help of a
lifeline--llamas. The only Hot Seat player to go home with nothing but an AT&T
phone card, McDonald's gift certificates, various ABC "We Love TV" geegaws and
a limited edition "WWTBAM" T shirt.

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Dave Mackey

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Nov 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/14/99
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SJim67 <sji...@aol.com> wrote in message

> That would be Robby Roseman from the August series, the only contestant to
ever
> bomb out on the first question. The question was "Hannibal crossed the
Alps
> using what animal?" After burning the 50/50, he was left with "elephant"
and
> "llamas" as his two remaining choices. He chose llamas and went home with
zip,
> thus the various llama references and jokes you see around here.

And the question has been immortalized on McDonald's bags, complete with
"Llamas" choice.

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SJim67

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Dave Mackey wrote:
>And the question has been immortalized on McDonald's bags, complete with
>"Llamas" choice.
>

Never has a guy who won nothing on a game show been so immortilized... For the
life of me, I would have trouble naming anyone who won 32 grand, but I know who
won zilch. Life sure is funny...

Phoebe9294

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>Previously on a.t.g-s, Ms. Phoebe the Q fan asked:
>
I see you know me well. :)

>Robby Roseman, a guy who works at the Mercantile Exchange in Chicago. On a
>Sunday night show in the last run, he was asked for $100 "What animals did
>Hannibal use to cross the Alps?" He answered--with the help of a
>lifeline--llamas. The only Hot Seat player to go home with nothing but an
>AT&T
>phone card, McDonald's gift certificates, various ABC "We Love TV" geegaws
>and
>a limited edition "WWTBAM" T shirt.

I guess the only thing that can be said about this is what John Cleese said on
another Monty Python sketch ...

"Cuidado, llamas!"

Zach Horan

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Nov 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/14/99
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>Someone bring me up to speed: Who was llama-boy? Was this early in the summer
>run?
>
>

It was during the Summer run, on the first Sunday show, to be exact(August
22nd). Robby Roseman was asked a question along the lines of "what animals
helped Hannibal Cross the Alps". The 50-50 lifeline left Elephants and Llamas.
ROseman said Llamas, not realizing the Alps were in Europe and Llamas are
native to South America. He went out on that first question, and he's the only
one not to win at least $1000 after getting to the Hot Seat.

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