Big Deal Hosts
Zach Horan
I'm afraid Fox wanted a younger host for Big Deal, else they might have
tried Geoff. I'm Afraid Dennis James, despite his sharpness even well
into his 70's-close to 80 hosting the UCP telethons from New York every
year; would get the same Bias Gene Rayburn got in the mid-80's when
trying to revive Match Game, and ended up hosting the first half of the
1985-6 season revival of Break the Bank(same name, different show).
Rayburn didn't return to MG in 1990 for a similar reason, TV execs. got
his age due to John Tesh wishing him a Happy Birthday on ET complete with
Age, 67-68 in Mid 80's and 72 in 1989.
As for Geoff, He is in his mid-late 50's(58 is a guess, his B'Day is
Feb 15), that's just a guess. Monty contracted laryngitis in April 1985,
causing Geoff to fill in for a week on LMAD. Geoff ought to have hosted
the 1990 LMAD revival, to get Bob Hilton out of his misery. But if
Treasure Hunt comes back, Geoff belongs there, and with Quincy Jones in
his 60's, he might be willing to hire a more experienced host regardless
of age for TH, for Name That Tune I have no ideas there. NTT would be a
more stellar production under Quincy and D. Salzman than it was under
Sandy Frank.
Eddie Walker
>of age for TH, for Name That Tune I have no ideas there. NTT would be a
>more stellar production under Quincy and D. Salzman than it was under
>Sandy Frank.
production of DARK Justice.. one of the series on CBS' crimetime after
primetime action programs that they put on after Pat Sayjack's talk
show bombed.
C Alliaume
In article <324447...@TCNJ.edu>, Zach Horan <Ho...@TCNJ.edu> writes:
>, for Name That Tune I have no ideas there. NTT would be a
>more stellar production under Quincy and D. Salzman than it was under
>Sandy Frank.
A Curt Alliaume Production might well have been more stellar than Sandy
Frank, but anyway...
I had suggested a couple months back using a singer as a host, to make
things interesting. My suggestion at the time was Rupert Holmes (who
wrote and sand "Escape (The Pina Colada Song)" in 1979, showed an ability
to ad-lib nicely on his many appearances on "American Bandstand" and with
Merv, and is now writing "Remember WENN" on AMC).
I might add Micky Dolenz, but since the Monkees are beginning yet another
reunion tour and album, he might not be available.
-- Curt Alliaume
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"I wish I was the man in the soundproof booth
I wish I had the chance to stump the panel
Or maybe tell the truth
And maybe I could win a color television..."
"TV Is King," The Tubes, 1979.
Meowmtmla
Curt is not far off...perhaps the best pilot I've ever seen which never
made it to air was the Radosh-produced 1990 remake of TUNE for Orion which
starred Peter Allen. Those of you who've seen the Phillips CD-I game show
have seen the format, which successfully (IMHO) incorporated questions and
answers into the basic tune-naming format. Obviously, Peter's out of the
question this time (he is slightly dead) but a legitimate pop/crossover
star with some young and/or ethnic appeal could work.
If he hadn't had to go out and co-star in a $200 million movie this
summer, Will Smith would have been one choice I would have thrown out.
But bearing in mind the train of thought Curt has correctly invoked, once
again, we challenge the genuises in this forum to help out David Salzman
and Quincy Jones (as if they need our help in getting rich). Knowing the
absolute need to evolve the show creatively and to successfully market it,
who would you choose to host TUNE and what actual changes (and no FACE THE
MUSIC rules, Troy--QDE doesn't own it and you're truly the only human
being alive who would watch it, and I have the FAM ratings to prove it!!!
:O) would you make to update it?
Dave Mackey
Meowmtmla (meow...@aol.com) wrote:
: answers into the basic tune-naming format. Obviously, Peter's out of the
: question this time (he is slightly dead) but a legitimate pop/crossover
: star with some young and/or ethnic appeal could work.
Jon Secada seems like a likely candidate. His music isn't exactly to my
tastes, but he seems like one who could take to the task. He's all the
things you're looking for: a legit pop star with young and ethnic appeal.
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Eric Hines
Meowmtmla wrote:
> (edit)
>
> If he hadn't had to go out and co-star in a $200 million movie this
> summer, Will Smith would have been one choice I would have thrown out.
> But bearing in mind the train of thought Curt has correctly invoked, once
> again, we challenge the genuises in this forum to help out David Salzman
> and Quincy Jones (as if they need our help in getting rich). Knowing the
> absolute need to evolve the show creatively and to successfully market it,
> who would you choose to host TUNE and what actual changes (and no FACE THE
> MUSIC rules, Troy--QDE doesn't own it and you're truly the only human
> being alive who would watch it, and I have the FAM ratings to prove it!!!
> :O) would you make to update it?
All right: (After the introduction of tonight's FOUR contestants) "...welcome to the NEW
$100,000 Name That Tune... and here's your host... Geoff Edwards!"
Game One: Category Challenge
The first three contestants to reach $700 play the next game (the low-scorer is
eliminated). A 3x3 Video Wall is used that has 9 musical categories displayed (examples:
"Sports Tunes" "Christmas Tunes"). The categories begin randomly mixing on the wall
until the host hits a button to stop the shuffle. The category in the middle of the wall
is then used, and a tune fitting that category is played. The first player to Name That
Tune wins $100 and tries to answer a question related to the tune for $200. If the
question is missed (or no answer in 3 seconds), the opponents may "ring-in" to answer
for half the value ($100 then $50 for the 3rd player then $25 for the 4th player). The
player with the correct answer (or the player that named the tune if no one gets it
right) will stop the mixing categories to determine the next category to be played as
just explained. When a player reaches $700, he/she no longer plays in Category Challenge
(he/she waits for the next game). If time expires before the 3 winners are determined,
the 3 highest-scoring players play the next game and $25 tie-breaking tunes are used if
needed.
Game Two: Triple Tunes
The first two contestants to complete their column on the Video Wall win a prize and
play the next game (the other contestant will be eliminated). The Video Wall now
displays 3 columns - one per player - and a correct answer to a question lights up 1/3
of the column (3 answers complete the column). A tune is played, and the first player to
Name That Tune will get the chance to answer up to three questions about the tune as
follows: first, after the host gives the month and year that the tune was a hit the
player must name the artist or group that performed the tune... if correct, the player
must answer a question about the words in the tune (example: "What three words follow
this line from the tune...")... if correct, the player must name the writer of the tune.
After the 3 questions or after a miss another tune is played, and so on. When a player
completes his/her column, he/she no longer plays in Triple Tunes (he/she waits for the
next game). If time expires before the 2 winners are determined, the 2 players that
are closest to finishing their columns play the next game and if there is a tie, the
player(s) who named the most tunes in Triple Tunes will advance to the next game (use
tie-breaking tunes if there is STILL a tie).
Game Three: One - On - One
One player is given the "Sharp" symbol and the other is given the "Flat" symbol, and the
first player to get three of their symbol in a row on the Video Wall winds the game,
wins $500 for each one of their symbols on the Video Wall, and plays the Golden Medley.
Of course, the video wall has nine blank screens at the start, and a symbol will fill
one screen. A tune is played, and the first player to Name That Tune may place his/her
symbol in any outside screen OR try to answer a question related to the tune in order to
put his/her symbol in the middle screen. After a symbol is placed or the question is
missed (or no answer in 3 seconds), another tune is played, and so on. However, if by
placing a symbol in an outside screen would win the game for the player, he/she MUST
answer a question related to the tune in order to place the symbol to win the game!! If
time expires before the winner is discovered, the player with the most symbols on the
Video Wall wins the game ($500 for each of his/her symbols and plays the Golden Medley).
If the game ends in a tie, use tie-breaking tunes until one is named!
Golden Medley
The player tries to name seven tunes in :30 to win $10,000 in cash. The rules are the
same as before (hit the button to stop the clock and Name That Tune OR PASS --- one
wrong answer ENDS the Golden Medley). The player wins $250 in cash for every correct
tune except tune #6 is worth $750 in cash and, of course, tune #7 will bring the total
to $10,000 in cash. If the player wins the $10,000 he/she MUST make a decision: KEEP the
$10,000 and LEAVE the show - OR - GIVE BACK the $10,000 and return on the NEXT SHOW and
play for $100,000 in cash and prizes. If the player decides to give back the $10,000 -
he/she plays on the next show against 3 new contestants and if he/she makes it to the
Golden Medley, he/she will be playing for $20,000 in cash instead of $10,000 (all other
rules remain the same). If he/she wins the $20,000 then he/she will try for $100,000 in
cash and prizes as follows: 9 musical categories are displayed on the video wall, then
they begin mixing. The player hits a button to stop the shuffle and the category in the
middle of the wall is used for one "clue". The "clue" consists of words from a tune
related to the category that was chosen and the player must Name That Tune! The player
is given seven seconds to "think" about his/her answer, then seven seconds to say the
name of the tune. If correct, he/she wins an additional $30,000 in cash and $50,000 in
prizes (of course, with the $20,000 from the Golden Medley that's $100,000 in cash and
prizes!!!!!).
If a player fails to get all seven tunes in the Golden Medley... he/she will then play:
Second Chance
9 musical categories are displayed on the video wall, and each category will have one
"clue". The "clue" consists of words from a tune related to the category. The player
must try to finish from where he/she left off in the Golden Medley to try to win $5,000
in cash (example: if the player only named 4 tunes in the Golden Medley, then he/she
needs to get 3 tunes right in the Second Chance). The clock is set to the amount of
seconds left over from the Golden Medley (if any) PLUS 7 seconds for each tune he/she
needs to get in this round to win (example: if 10 seconds are left when the player gave
an incorrect answer in the Golden Medley and he/she named 4 tunes correctly to that
point, the clock would be 7 x 3 = 21 PLUS the 10 seconds for a total of 31 seconds). The
clock starts after the player selects a category. The player may keep trying to Name
That Tune until he/she says PASS to select a different category (or names it!) and the
scoring is the same as the Golden Medley ($250 in cash per tune, the 6th adds $750 in
cash) except that the seventh tune brings the total to $5,000 in cash. Of course, the
clock keeps running until the player names the seventh tune or the time runs out!
All right - there you have it Ladies and Gentlemen... what are your thoughts???????
Eric Hines
eric...@gte.net
Caleb Nelson
Eric Hines wrote:
>
> Meowmtmla wrote:
<Snip courtesy of Netscape Schnippy-thing, Beta Version 1>
> All right: (After the introduction of tonight's FOUR contestants) "...welcome to the NEW
> $100,000 Name That Tune... and here's your host... Geoff Edwards!"
I like . . .
>
> Game One: Category Challenge
> The first three contestants to reach $700 play the next game (the low-scorer is
> eliminated). A 3x3 Video Wall is used that has 9 musical categories displayed (examples:
> "Sports Tunes" "Christmas Tunes"). The categories begin randomly mixing on the wall
> until the host hits a button to stop the shuffle. The category in the middle of the wall
> is then used, and a tune fitting that category is played. The first player to Name That
> Tune wins $100 and tries to answer a question related to the tune for $200. If the
> question is missed (or no answer in 3 seconds), the opponents may "ring-in" to answer
> for half the value ($100 then $50 for the 3rd player then $25 for the 4th player). The
> player with the correct answer (or the player that named the tune if no one gets it
> right) will stop the mixing categories to determine the next category to be played as
> just explained. When a player reaches $700, he/she no longer plays in Category Challenge
> (he/she waits for the next game). If time expires before the 3 winners are determined,
> the 3 highest-scoring players play the next game and $25 tie-breaking tunes are used if
> needed.
Only one problem . . . the time delay between the category chosen and
the performers getting up the required music will be substantial. And
don't say use video monitors for the performers . . . it don't work.
I've had to try it before, and having to hassle with a monitor and a
French Horn at the same time is not very fun.
Other than that . . . BRING ON GEOFF!!!!
Caleb Nelson
cne...@iglobal.net
Actually, Geoff is already here, sort of.
John L. Venturini
Caleb Nelson wrote:
>
> Eric Hines wrote:
> >
> > Meowmtmla wrote:
>
> <Snip courtesy of Netscape Schnippy-thing, Beta Version 1>
>
> > $100,000 Name That Tune... and here's your host... Geoff Edwards!"
>
> >
> > The first three contestants to reach $700 play the next game (the low-scorer is
> > eliminated). A 3x3 Video Wall is used that has 9 musical categories displayed (examples:
> > "Sports Tunes" "Christmas Tunes"). The categories begin randomly mixing on the wall
> > until the host hits a button to stop the shuffle. The category in the middle of the wall
> > is then used, and a tune fitting that category is played. The first player to Name That
> > Tune wins $100 and tries to answer a question related to the tune for $200. If the
> > question is missed (or no answer in 3 seconds), the opponents may "ring-in" to answer
> > for half the value ($100 then $50 for the 3rd player then $25 for the 4th player). The
> > player with the correct answer (or the player that named the tune if no one gets it
> > right) will stop the mixing categories to determine the next category to be played as
> > just explained. When a player reaches $700, he/she no longer plays in Category Challenge
> > (he/she waits for the next game). If time expires before the 3 winners are determined,
> > the 3 highest-scoring players play the next game and $25 tie-breaking tunes are used if
> > needed.
Well I didn't get the excerpt where you listed the other rounds, but
I noticed you DON'T HAVE BID-A-NOTE! And I tell you, Name That Tune
is NOT Name That Tune without Bid A Note.
- John
Eric Hines
Caleb Nelson wrote the following based on Game One/Category Challenge:
>
> Only one problem . . . the time delay between the category chosen and
> the performers getting up the required music will be substantial. And
> don't say use video monitors for the performers . . . it don't work.
> I've had to try it before, and having to hassle with a monitor and a
> French Horn at the same time is not very fun.
>
> Other than that . . . BRING ON GEOFF!!!!
>
> Caleb Nelson
> cne...@iglobal.net
> Actually, Geoff is already here, sort of.
For the first game only, I would use CD's instead of the live performers because of the
problem you have just mentioned. Otherwise, they would have to "STOP TAPE" to give the
performers enough time to get the right sheet music in front of them!! I wouldn't dare
use video monitors for the performers!!!! Thanks for your input! (Now if the real
producers are reading this.....)
Eric Hines
eric...@gte.net
Eric Hines
John L. Venturini wrote:
>>
> Well I didn't get the excerpt where you listed the other rounds, but
> I noticed you DON'T HAVE BID-A-NOTE! And I tell you, Name That Tune
> is NOT Name That Tune without Bid A Note.
>
> - John
In my attempt to "update" Name That Tune... I did consider Bid-A-Note instead of my
One-On-One Game. I suppose it's up to the REAL producers if they want that version in
the game instead of my version... I happen to like both! Since you said that, I'll say
that if that version was the one used, I would play it the same way... and have the
winner win money based on how "badly" he/she defeated his/her opponent as follows:
3-0 wins $3,000
3-1 wins $2,000
3-2 wins $1,000
Of course, the first player to complete their column in the Triple Tunes game before
Bid-A-Note would have the first chance to bid on the first tune. If you need the
complete set of my rules E-Mail me and I'll send you a copy!
Eric Hines
eric...@gte.net
Meowmtmla
Eric:
Some really imaginative thoughts. One friendly word of advice: SIMPLIFY.
Your scoring gets very complex by your own acumen for accuracy, and,
frankly, even I had some difficulty following it. The rule of thumb
should be if your friend has to read it more than once to understand it,
it's too complicated. Not that shows haven't gotten to air that are more
complicated, admittedly, just few ever work.
And with all due respect to Geoff, who I concur with you in believing he
could do a great hosting job, my educated opinion is that based upon
marketplace demands for somewhat younger and name-brand talent he would
not make any final cut. Geoff is in his 60s and while Bob Barker and Dick
Clark are older, they have more value than Geoff. (If you're reading this,
Geoff, as I know you might, this aren't necessarily my views, but I think
you'd grudgingly concur they are accurate reflections of reality).
Good luck and keep working at it...SL
Randy Amasia
Caleb dit:
> > Only one problem . . . the time delay between the category
chosen and
> > the performers getting up the required music will be
substantial. And
> > don't say use video monitors for the performers . . . it
don't work.
> > I've had to try it before, and having to hassle with a
monitor and a
> > French Horn at the same time is not very fun.
Erich dit:
> For the first game only, I would use CD's instead of the live
performers because of the
> problem you have just mentioned.
Problem with that is, in addition to paying composer and
publisher royalties, now you have artist, label and producer
royalties to contend with.
--
Randy Amasia
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Keith Privett
C Alliaume <call...@aol.com> wrote in article
<526upn$k...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>...
| In article <324447...@TCNJ.edu>, Zach Horan <Ho...@TCNJ.edu> writes:
|
| >, for Name That Tune I have no ideas there. NTT would be a
| >more stellar production under Quincy and D. Salzman than it was under
| >Sandy Frank.
|
| A Curt Alliaume Production might well have been more stellar than Sandy
| Frank, but anyway...
|
| I had suggested a couple months back using a singer as a host, to make
| things interesting. My suggestion at the time was Rupert Holmes (who
| wrote and sand "Escape (The Pina Colada Song)" in 1979
Hmmm. A singer as host...
Is John Davidson tired of Carousel?? :>
Or we could transfer the Dionne Warwick/Rod Roddy pairng from psycho
friends network...
And Bill Shatner did an album once...
Hmm...
--
Keith Privett
Ke...@Privett.Com
Jake Tanner
meow...@aol.com (Meowmtmla) wrote:
>Curt is not far off...perhaps the best pilot I've ever seen which never
>made it to air was the Radosh-produced 1990 remake of TUNE for Orion which
>starred Peter Allen. Those of you who've seen the Phillips CD-I game show
>have seen the format, which successfully (IMHO) incorporated questions and
>answers into the basic tune-naming format. Obviously, Peter's out of the
>question this time (he is slightly dead) but a legitimate pop/crossover
>star with some young and/or ethnic appeal could work.
I would love to see that pilot...I have the Phillips CD-i version of
Name That Tune (hosted by Bob Goen) and it's a lot of fun...for me,
it's a much more entertaining version of Name That Tune than anything
in the past...except I always liked the two player Golden Medley
Showdown...it was often very intense...but the other rounds were just
pointless and boring to me...this 1990 format was lots of fun and very
unpredictable...and the bonus round is a killer!
Jake
Michael Klauss
desp...@airmail.net (Jake Tanner) wrote:
>I would love to see that pilot...I have the Phillips CD-i version of
>Name That Tune (hosted by Bob Goen) and it's a lot of fun...for me,
>it's a much more entertaining version of Name That Tune than anything
>in the past...except I always liked the two player Golden Medley
>Showdown...it was often very intense...but the other rounds were just
>pointless and boring to me...this 1990 format was lots of fun and very
>unpredictable...and the bonus round is a killer!
>Jake
If the next Name That Tune is 1/2 as good as the CD-i version, I'd be
addicted to it. I don't want every other song to be Games People Play
or Philadelphia Freedom, like on Name That Tune (1984) or Face the
Music.
While on the subject of CD-i game show games, when The Joker's Wild
returns to TV, if game play were similar to that on the CD-i version,
JW would return to its glory of the 70's and 80's and lay to rest the
Pat (Last definition) Finn version. While we are at it, let Wink host
it, since he hosts the CD-i version.
Michael Klauss
"I can't believe I spent $300 to play The Joker's Wild and Name That
Tune in the luxury of my own home."
--Michael Klauss, 18 months after he bought the CD-i that he
thought would be the next technological breakthrough
Jake Tanner
got...@chelsea.ios.com (Michael Klauss) wrote:
>desp...@airmail.net (Jake Tanner) wrote:
>>I would love to see that pilot...I have the Phillips CD-i version of
>>Name That Tune (hosted by Bob Goen) and it's a lot of fun...for me,
>>it's a much more entertaining version of Name That Tune than anything
>>in the past...except I always liked the two player Golden Medley
>>Showdown...it was often very intense...but the other rounds were just
>>pointless and boring to me...this 1990 format was lots of fun and very
>>unpredictable...and the bonus round is a killer!
>If the next Name That Tune is 1/2 as good as the CD-i version, I'd be
>addicted to it. I don't want every other song to be Games People Play
>or Philadelphia Freedom, like on Name That Tune (1984) or Face the
>Music.
I agree...I was amazed with the enormous amount of tunes that was
included in this CD-i version...I am not sure if I have ever heard a
tune repeated...
>While on the subject of CD-i game show games, when The Joker's Wild
>returns to TV, if game play were similar to that on the CD-i version,
>JW would return to its glory of the 70's and 80's and lay to rest the
>Pat (Last definition) Finn version. While we are at it, let Wink host
>it, since he hosts the CD-i version.
Well, I agree with you, but only partially...I like the fact that the
game allowed for at least 4 players in the game...and the second round
was quite tense and challenging...the final Joker Challenge question
was very anti-climactic for me...at least the Name That Tune CD-i had
a legitimate bonus round...
>"I can't believe I spent $300 to play The Joker's Wild and Name That
>Tune in the luxury of my own home."
> --Michael Klauss, 18 months after he bought the CD-i that he
>thought would be the next technological breakthrough
I know exactly what you mean...but you must remember that there is
also a version of Jeopardy! and a fun game called "3rd Degree", not to
be confused with the game show of the same name...very game-show like
with rules similar to "Scruples"...actually, I bought tons of CD-i
software, games and movies...I made a substantial investment to say
the least...however, if you can find any CD-i equipment out there
these days, there are some great bargains...recently, I found a
slightly damaged CD-i unit that originally sold for nearly $500 a
couple of years ago...I bought it for a fellow a.t.g-s'er for a cool
$20!! It certainly made him happy...
Now, if only Phillips Electronics would arrange to have the CD-i
versions of Joker and Name That Tune made in a PC CD-ROM format...that
would rock!
Jake
Chris Lemon
Caleb Nelson <kwijibo...@geocities.com> wrote:
>Only one problem . . . the time delay between the category chosen and
>the performers getting up the required music will be substantial. And
>don't say use video monitors for the performers . . . it don't work.
>I've had to try it before, and having to hassle with a monitor and a
>French Horn at the same time is not very fun.
Ah, but it's not a problem at all, if you handle it like they used to
on the most recent Name That Tune for Tune Topics, and like they do
now for the new Dating Game...have all of the "shuffling" and crap
just be window dressing, and have the board programmed to bring up
catagories in a preselected order...you think Tommy and the band had
five different packets of music for Tune Topics? 'Course not. And
isn't it more than a little ironic on the Dating Game that we hear
EXACTLY TWO facts about each contestant before the round ends? :)
>Other than that . . . BRING ON GEOFF!!!!
I'm old-school...Tom Kennedy is the only person who can get away with
Name That Tune. (Yes, folks, I know about Ralph Edwards...I'm not THAT
old-school. :))
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