LMAD marathon program guide
Shawn Wilsie
Looks like the same old shows that have been run on cable already (these
original air dates seem to indicate they were weekly, syndicated run):
"Monday, Aug. 27, 2001, 8 p.m.-12 a.m. ET
Episode No. 4 -- Announcer Jay Stewart is in a rocking chair (original
airdate: 10/9/71).
Episode No. 16 -- Contestants wear costumes with pins and say "Stick Me"
(1/15/72).
Episode No. 9 -- Show features a mule pulling "Santa Jay's" sleigh offstage
(11/13/71).
Episode No. 2 -- This edition of "Let's Make a Deal" was produced on Dec. 1,
1970.
Episode No. 254 -- It's "Monty, Monty" a la George Carlin in this episode
(10/23/76).
Episode No. 244 -- A couple doesn't deal for a car; Hall supports a shocked
winner (5/21/76).
Episode No. 185 -- Zsa Zsa Gabor is featured in a show that originally aired
on 9/13/75.
Tuesday, Aug. 28, 2001, 8 p.m.-12 a.m. ET
Episode No. 18 -- Woman is very eager to trade: "Yes, yes, YES!" (1/29/72).
Episode No. 5 -- Hall fans out $2,000 in a show that was produced on
9/23/70.
Episode No. 12 -- This show has tons of energy, less greed and a long hug
(12/4/71).
Episode No. 253 -- The classic Pong video game is a featured prize
(10/16/76).
Episode No. 206 -- Door Number Two hides a shiny new automobile (11/29/75).
Episode No. 219 -- Cow "zonks" are roaming free and a Super Deal bombs out
(2/7/76).
Episode No. 191 -- Show features a special appearance by Ruth Buzzi
(10/4/75).
Wednesday, Aug. 29, 2001, 8 p.m.-12 a.m. ET
Episode No. 46 -- "Buy their junk" and "Match the prizes" played during the
show (10/28/72).
Episode No. 11 -- Hall jogs with a couple and a husband asks permission from
his wife (11/27/71).
Episode No. 23 -- Contestant sheds tear over money prize; Hall screams
"Rise!" (3/4/72).
Episode No. 24 -- Five dollars becomes $1,000 and sharp utensils are put
away (3/11/72).
Episode No. 260 -- More tears as a Cadillac is won; Pong video game returns
(12/11/76).
Episode No. 213 -- "The Documentary Show"; Stewart appears in giant baby
buggy (1/17/76).
Episode No. 188 -- Nanette Fabray appears on episode that first aired on
9/27/75.
Thursday, Aug. 30, 2001, 8 p.m.-12 a.m. ET
Episode No. 7 -- This show was produced on 5/18/71 and features a "zonk"
Cadillac.
Episode No. 8 -- Model Carol Merrill has hot pants; Hall bangs sign on floor
(11/6/71).
Episode No. 190 -- Nipsey Russell is featured on the show that first aired
10/4/75.
Episode No. 201 -- Hall wears a purple outfit and receives Hawaiian flowers
(11/8/75).
Episode No. 272 -- Includes a $3,000 jackpot win and a very ecstatic couple
(3/5/77).
Episode No. 245 -- Stewart is Little Bo Peep; $299 answering machine shown
(5/28/76).
Episode No. 184 -- Comedian and actor Red Buttons is featured (9/13/75).
Friday, Aug. 31, 2001, 8 p.m.-12 a.m. ET
Episode No. 3 -- Includes a blonde jumping out of her socks; Hall runs away
(10/27/71).
Episode No. 10 -- Great reaction from male contestant is part of the deal
(11/20/71).
Episode No. 17 -- Winner grabs Hall's face; guy reacts with "Yip, yip!"
(1/22/72).
Episode No. 200 -- Stewart is in a king-sized kiddie car; winner wears a
black leotard (11/8/75).
Episode No. 281 -- Joanna Gleason appears in a zonk-free episode (5/28/77).
Episode No. 225 -- Hall performs impression of Burt Lahr and gets poked in
the eye (2/28/76).
Episode No. 187 -- Milton Berle is featured in a show that originally aired
on 9/20/75. "
Sherman Potter
news:klx97.104$3o6....@news.uswest.net...
> According to excite.com, here is the GSN schedule for the "Deal" marathon.
> Looks like the same old shows that have been run on cable already (these
> original air dates seem to indicate they were weekly, syndicated run):
*snip*
Each night only listed seven shows; wouldn't a four-hour time slot call for
eight shows, rather than seven? Or are they going to do bumpers featuring
what's left of Monty Hall and extend each show to 34 1/4 minutes?
Stephan Mynarkiewicz
"Sherman Potter" <pot...@4077.mash.mil> wrote in message
news:9k6h2...@enews4.newsguy.com...
Probably...and I'd expect that they might pull the "WinTV/stupid
coincidental pop-up notes" bit as well.
Tom Heald
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Let's Make a Deal' Now Behind Game Show Network's Door; Game Show Network
Launches the Classic Monty Hall-Hosted Series With `Let's Make a Deal'-a-thon,
a Week-Long Event
CULVER CITY, Calif.--(ENTERTAINMENT WIRE)--July 31, 2001--The "Deal" is on!
Game Show Network, the 24-hour cable network devoted exclusively to game shows
and interactive game play, welcomes "Let's Make a Deal" to the network. With
"Let's Make a Deal"-a-thon, Game Show Network will broadcast 35 of the best
"Let's Make a Deal" episodes in a five-day launch event. Seven episodes will be
presented each night along with a deal-making event at Jillian's, an incredible
entertainment and dining concept on the Universal CityWalk in Universal City,
Calif. Game Show Network's "Let's Make a Deal"-a-thon airs on Game Show Network
Monday, Aug. 27, through Friday, Aug. 31, 2001, from 8 p.m. to 12 a.m. ET.
The "Let's Make a Deal"-a-thon event captures the thrill and excitement of the
well-loved series. The event is hosted by comedian Jeffrey Ross featuring a
special appearance by Monty Hall, the original host of "Let's Make a Deal."
Ross' credits include writing, producing and performance for the Friar's Club
Roasts of Rob Reiner and Jerry Stiller for Comedy Central. He is a regular
stand-up for "The Late Show With David Letterman" and has written for the
Academy Awards and Comedy Central's "The Man Show."
The Universal City, Calif., location of Jillian's, a dining and entertainment
megaplex featuring games, food, multimedia bowling and more, provides the party
backdrop for the "Let's Make a Deal"-a-thon; shots of the audience and live
event wrap around the "Let's Make a Deal" episodes.
"`Let's Make a Deal' is one of the most popular game shows in television
history, and Game Show Network is packaging and presenting it in a way that has
never been seen before," said Rich Cronin, president and CEO, Game Show
Network. "We are thrilled to provide `Let's Make a Deal' to a whole new
generation of game show fans."
The "Let's Make a Deal"-a-thon viewing experience is enhanced by an on-screen
overlay featuring information such as then-and-now prize values and series
trivia. Additionally, visitors to www.gameshownetwork.com are challenged to
"Find Monty" throughout the five-day event. Viewers will be prompted to visit
the newly designed site via an on-screen scroll at key intervals during the
"Let's Make a Deal"-a-thon. The onscreen challenge to "Find Monty" will only
appear once a night during the initial 8 p.m.-12 a.m. ET airing of the "Let's
Make a Deal"-a-thon. The first 100 participants to find the image of Monty will
click on the icon, register, and win a great prize. Finally, fans who register
on www.gameshownetwork.com will be automatically entered into a dial-out
contest. During each night of the "Let's Make a Deal"-a-thon, one lucky
registrant's name will be drawn, and they will be called and notified of what
they have won during the broadcast.
Created by host Monty Hall and writer-producer Stefan Hatos, the successful and
well-loved game show "Let's Make a Deal" debuted on Dec. 30, 1963. Game play
begins each episode with the selection of 33 contestants -- potential traders
-- from the studio audience. The outrageous costumes "Let's Make a Deal" is
famous for are a result of this selection process: in 1964, an audience member
wore a silly outfit to capture Hall's favor, and eventually the strategy became
widespread.
"Let's Make a Deal" contestants play games with Hall in which they trade their
own possessions for prizes. The gifts are often hidden behind curtains or in
oversize boxes and vary from great merchandise to "zonks," the term coined by
the show for silly gag prizes. Each deal is unique and can involve several
options and contestants. The "Let's Make a Deal" finale gives two of that
show's biggest winners an opportunity to trade one more time in "The Big Deal
of the Day," where they may pick a prize hidden behind one of three doors.
Actor, singer, emcee and sportscaster, Monty Hall is a game show legend. In
addition to serving as host of "Let's Make a Deal," Hall emceed "Split Second,"
"Beat the Clock," "It's Anybody's Guess," "Video Village" and "Keep Talking."
His television career includes guest appearances on "The Odd Couple," "Wonder
Years" and "The Love Boat," as well as hosting and producing "Who Am I?" and
"Auctioneer" in his native Canada. Hall has a star on the Hollywood Walk of
Fame and was the Mayor of Hollywood for many years. His life away from
television has been one dedicated to humanitarian causes. Over the past 40
years he has raised over $800 million for countless charities. He presently
serves as the International Chairman for the Variety Clubs.
"Let's Make a Deal" will assume its regularly scheduled air time of 8:30 p.m.
ET, Monday through Saturday, beginning Saturday, Sept. 1, 2001, on Game Show
Network.
Following is the line-up -- listed in broadcast order -- for Game Show
Network's "Let's Make a Deal"-a-thon:
Monday, Aug. 27, 2001, 8 p.m.-12 a.m. ET
-- Episode No. 4 -- Announcer Jay Stewart is in a rocking chair (original
airdate: 10/9/71).
-- Episode No. 16 -- Contestants wear costumes with pins and say "Stick Me"
(1/15/72).
-- Episode No. 9 -- Show features a mule pulling "Santa Jay's" sleigh offstage
(11/13/71).
-- Episode No. 2 -- This edition of "Let's Make a Deal" was produced on Dec.
1, 1970.
-- Episode No. 254 -- It's "Monty, Monty" a la George Carlin in this episode
(10/23/76).
-- Episode No. 244 -- A couple doesn't deal for a car; Hall supports a shocked
winner (5/21/76).
-- Episode No. 185 -- Zsa Zsa Gabor is featured in a show that originally
aired on 9/13/75.
Tuesday, Aug. 28, 2001, 8 p.m.-12 a.m. ET
-- Episode No. 18 -- Woman is very eager to trade: "Yes, yes, YES!" (1/29/72).
-- Episode No. 5 -- Hall fans out $2,000 in a show that was produced on
9/23/70.
-- Episode No. 12 -- This show has tons of energy, less greed and a long hug
(12/4/71).
-- Episode No. 253 -- The classic Pong video game is a featured prize
(10/16/76).
-- Episode No. 206 -- Door Number Two hides a shiny new automobile (11/29/75).
-- Episode No. 219 -- Cow "zonks" are roaming free and a Super Deal bombs out
(2/7/76).
-- Episode No. 191 -- Show features a special appearance by Ruth Buzzi
(10/4/75).
Wednesday, Aug. 29, 2001, 8 p.m.-12 a.m. ET
-- Episode No. 46 -- "Buy their junk" and "Match the prizes" played during the
show (10/28/72).
-- Episode No. 11 -- Hall jogs with a couple and a husband asks permission
from his wife (11/27/71).
-- Episode No. 23 -- Contestant sheds tear over money prize; Hall screams
"Rise!" (3/4/72).
-- Episode No. 24 -- Five dollars becomes $1,000 and sharp utensils are put
away (3/11/72).
-- Episode No. 260 -- More tears as a Cadillac is won; Pong video game returns
(12/11/76).
-- Episode No. 213 -- "The Documentary Show"; Stewart appears in giant baby
buggy (1/17/76).
-- Episode No. 188 -- Nanette Fabray appears on episode that first aired on
9/27/75.
Thursday, Aug. 30, 2001, 8 p.m.-12 a.m. ET
-- Episode No. 7 -- This show was produced on 5/18/71 and features a "zonk"
Cadillac.
-- Episode No. 8 -- Model Carol Merrill has hot pants; Hall bangs sign on
floor (11/6/71).
-- Episode No. 190 -- Nipsey Russell is featured on the show that first aired
10/4/75.
-- Episode No. 201 -- Hall wears a purple outfit and receives Hawaiian flowers
(11/8/75).
-- Episode No. 272 -- Includes a $3,000 jackpot win and a very ecstatic couple
(3/5/77).
-- Episode No. 245 -- Stewart is Little Bo Peep; $299 answering machine shown
(5/28/76).
-- Episode No. 184 -- Comedian and actor Red Buttons is featured (9/13/75).
Friday, Aug. 31, 2001, 8 p.m.-12 a.m. ET
-- Episode No. 3 -- Includes a blonde jumping out of her socks; Hall runs away
(10/27/71).
-- Episode No. 10 -- Great reaction from male contestant is part of the deal
(11/20/71).
-- Episode No. 17 -- Winner grabs Hall's face; guy reacts with "Yip, yip!"
(1/22/72).
-- Episode No. 200 -- Stewart is in a king-sized kiddie car; winner wears a
black leotard (11/8/75).
-- Episode No. 281 -- Joanna Gleason appears in a zonk-free episode (5/28/77).
-- Episode No. 225 -- Hall performs impression of Burt Lahr and gets poked in
the eye (2/28/76).
-- Episode No. 187 -- Milton Berle is featured in a show that originally aired
on 9/20/75.
Monty Hall is represented by Fred Wostbrock at Kazarian, Spencer and
Associates. The "Let's Make a Deal"-a-thon pact with Game Show Network was
closed by Wostbrock and Sharon Hall, of Monty Hall Enterprises.
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Raydad2002
> Looks like the same old shows that have been run on cable already (these
I thought that GSN was going to run LMAD's from all era's (meaning
the 70's & 80's episodes) did they lie? Also, I heard that these
episodes will be aired pretty simalar to the "Feud" marathon last
month, yep, it's going to be "squeezed" w/ useless info. have the
time. Ya'll still in the mood to tape it now?
TDN2001
> I thought that GSN was going to run LMAD's from all era's (meaning
> the 70's & 80's episodes) did they lie?
Don't know about that, but out of the following "versions" of LMAD, which
were acquired by GSN?:
* 60's version from NBC
* ABC Daytime version
* ABC Nighttime Version
* Syndicated Version taped out of the ABC Studios (early/mid 70's)
* Syndicated Version taped out of the Las Vegas Hilton
* Syndicated Version taped out of Vancouver, Canada (under the Catalina
Productions banner (mid 70's)
* Syndicated Version taped out of NBC Burbank (mid/late 80's)
* NBC Daytime Version taped out of Disney/MGM (early 90's)
> Also, I heard that these
> episodes will be aired pretty simalar to the "Feud" marathon last
> month, yep, it's going to be "squeezed" w/ useless info. have the
> time. Ya'll still in the mood to tape it now?
You got 2 choices: Record 35 eps in 5 days, or 35 eps in 6 weeks? It's
Quantity vs. Quality (unless GSN pulls a Family Channel and edits out some
prize descriptions done mid-show or uses the herky-jerky digital speed-up on
the episode to vreate more commercial time.)
Ted
--
Zach Horan
>Don't know about that, but out of the following "versions" of LMAD, which
>were acquired by GSN?:
>* 60's version from NBC
>* ABC Daytime version
>* ABC Nighttime Version
>* Syndicated Version taped out of the ABC Studios (early/mid 70's)
>* Syndicated Version taped out of the Las Vegas Hilton
>* Syndicated Version taped out of Vancouver, Canada (under the Catalina
> Productions banner (mid 70's
1980-81
>* Syndicated Version taped out of NBC Burbank (mid/late 80's)
This was taped at Hollywood Center Studios for part/all of the run
>* NBC Daytime Version taped out of Disney/MGM (early 90's)
The ABC Studios and Vegas SYndie versions appear to be the versions from which
the episodes to be shown in the marathon come.
Brandon Brooks
Read the question again, numbskull.
Brandon Brooks
Patrick Patterson
which
> > the episodes to be shown in the marathon come.
>
> Read the question again, numbskull.
>
> Brandon Brooks
>
I know we're all big on Zach bashing, but he did answer the question. It
would appear that they got those episodes as those are the only episodes
airing in the marathon. I mean, that's the only evidence we have at this
point as to what versiosn they have.
Also, for an earlier poster, GSN *never* said they were getting episodes
from all eras, Steve Beverly quoted MONTY HALL as saying that.
Zach Horan
>which
>> > the episodes to be shown in the marathon come.
>
>I know we're all big on Zach bashing, but he did answer the question. It
>would appear that they got those episodes as those are the only episodes
>airing in the marathon.
It's quite possible they acquired the 80s version of LMAD as well(as that was
part of the package FAM acquired for their reruns a few years back). GSN
figures Carol Merrill and Jay Stewart are more familiar names than Brian
Cummings/Dean Goss and Karen LaPierre/Melanie Vincz, and are deciding to kick
off their LMAD showings at least with the 70s SYndicated shows with bigger
prizes and the more famous LMAD cast.
Brandon Brooks
> would appear that they got those episodes as those are the only episodes
> airing in the marathon. I mean, that's the only evidence we have at this
> point as to what versiosn they have.
No he didn't. The question was:
>...out of the following "versions" of LMAD, which
>were acquired by GSN?
His answer was:
>The ABC Studios and Vegas SYndie versions appear to be the versions
from which
>the episodes to be shown in the marathon come.
Just because they aren't currently showing any '80s episodes doesn't
mean that they don't have them. By that logic, that would mean GSN
doesn't have Blockbusters or The $20K Pyramid. Zach should just read
before he posts.
Brandon Brooks
Patrick Patterson
"Brandon Brooks" <Brandon...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6aa045cb.01080...@posting.google.com...
I think you're just trying to find another reason to bash Zach. He replied
very logically. There is a 35-episode "Let's Make a Deal" marathon coming
up, so one may logically think that they have not acquired the 86 version
(and the 80s version, I have heard, belongs to Warner Brothers). And, as not
to confuse the person, he mentioned that those were being shown in the
marathon, so they COULD have other versions.
Raydad2002
He replied
> very logically. There is a 35-episode "Let's Make a Deal" marathon coming
> up, so one may logically think that they have not acquired the 86 version
> (and the 80s version, I have heard, belongs to Warner Brothers). And, as not
> to confuse the person, he mentioned that those were being shown in the
> marathon, so they COULD have other versions.
Well, yes maybe the 80's episodes do belong to WB (It was syndicated
by Telepictures which is owned by Warner Bros. [reruns of Mama'a
Family & My Favorite Martian can tell you that]) but then agian those
episodes did run on The Family Channel and USA reruns back in the day.
So, you think it was part of the GSN deal. It's still up in the
air...or is it?
Paul Duca
Zach Horan wrote:
Good point...presumably once they get into the regular run, it would be
the fanatics like us that would appreciate, say, the 1967 NBC prime-time version
(I have personally witnessed scenes from two different episodes in various
retrospective shows--and if they were more up to save those versions, a la
original TPIR, they SHOULD exist somewhere...certainly in Monty's private
stock).
Paul
Paul Duca
Shawn Wilsie wrote:
> According to excite.com, here is the GSN schedule for the "Deal" marathon.
>
>
> Episode No. 187 -- Milton Berle is featured in a show that originally aired
> on 9/20/75. "
The first time I saw this (on FAM) I thought "Why would they let
ANYBODY on the tradiing floor out of costume,
especially...someone...who...looks...like....UNCLE MILTIE?!?"
Paul Duca
Brandon Brooks
understand me because I think I'm talking to a wall...
> I think you're just trying to find another reason to bash Zach.
I sure am. He made an assinine post (nothing unusual).
> He replied
> very logically. There is a 35-episode "Let's Make a Deal" marathon coming
> up, so one may logically think that they have not acquired the 86 version
That's not necessarily logical to think. GSN may only be airing
seventies episodes because those may be the ones that are most
memorable to the demographic audience. Like they used to do with
Combs' FF, they could reserve an eighties episode for the weekends.
But just because there are none in this marathon doesn't mean they
don't have them (Remember the FF 25 special? They didn't show any
Combs' FFs, but they sure as hell have them.)
> (and the 80s version, I have heard, belongs to Warner Brothers).
So what?
> And, as not
> to confuse the person, he mentioned that those were being shown in the
> marathon, so they COULD have other versions.
My point *was* that they COULD have other versions. But he didn't
answer didn't satify the original question "out of the following
"versions" of LMAD, which were acquired by GSN?" in his original post,
no matter what you think. He could have said "I don't know, but they
are showing all seventies episodes for the marathon", but then that
would have been an useless post, much like the one I'm making now
telling Zach to read before he posts.
And BTW, stop defending him for being inane.
Brandon Brooks
Patrick Patterson
> > I think you're just trying to find another reason to bash Zach.
>
> I sure am. He made an assinine post (nothing unusual).
>
> > He replied
> > very logically. There is a 35-episode "Let's Make a Deal" marathon
coming
> > up, so one may logically think that they have not acquired the 86
version
>
> That's not necessarily logical to think. GSN may only be airing
> seventies episodes because those may be the ones that are most
> memorable to the demographic audience. Like they used to do with
> Combs' FF, they could reserve an eighties episode for the weekends.
> But just because there are none in this marathon doesn't mean they
> don't have them (Remember the FF 25 special? They didn't show any
> Combs' FFs, but they sure as hell have them.)
>
Ummm.. The FF25 special had 7 episodes, this upcoming marathon has 35 :-)
> > (and the 80s version, I have heard, belongs to Warner Brothers).
>
> So what?
>
> > And, as not
> > to confuse the person, he mentioned that those were being shown in the
> > marathon, so they COULD have other versions.
>
> My point *was* that they COULD have other versions. But he didn't
> answer didn't satify the original question "out of the following
> "versions" of LMAD, which were acquired by GSN?" in his original post,
> no matter what you think. He could have said "I don't know, but they
> are showing all seventies episodes for the marathon", but then that
> would have been an useless post, much like the one I'm making now
> telling Zach to read before he posts.
>
He answered "The ABC Studios and Vegas SYndie versions appear to be the
versions from which the episodes to be shown in the marathon come." He was
being helpful, he mentioned that those were the episodes in the marathon, he
never said those were the only episodes they had, and never said they didn't
have others. He made it clear that those episodes were being shown in the
marathon, and that the person he was replying to could have taken that any
way they wanted.
> And BTW, stop defending him for being inane.
>
Rarely do I defend Zach, but just like how people were attacking Steve
Beverly for stupid reasons (my gosh, his dog died and then someone starts
attacking him for making a tribute for him?), people have started bashing
Zach for stupid reasons.
> Brandon Brooks
>
Streaming Wizard
"Patrick Patterson" <patters...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> He answered "The ABC Studios and Vegas SYndie versions appear to be
> the versions from which the episodes to be shown in the marathon
> come." He was being helpful, he mentioned that those were the
> episodes in the marathon, he never said those were the only episodes
> they had, and never said they didn't have others. He made it clear
> that those episodes were being shown in the marathon, and that the
> person he was replying to could have taken that any way they wanted.
Pat, the fact is that Zach -- true to form -- did not answer the
question, and instead repeated comments that had already been made.
Were this an occasional thing, no one would bash Zach, but this is
something Zach does *all the time*. For all the complaints about
off-topic posts within a newsgroup, Zach won't even stay on-topic within
a *thread*.
> > And BTW, stop defending him for being inane.
>
> Rarely do I defend Zach, but just like how people were attacking
> Steve Beverly for stupid reasons (my gosh, his dog died and then
> someone starts attacking him for making a tribute for him?), people
> have started bashing Zach for stupid reasons.
His tendency to answer every question *except* the one that's been asked
is why he gets bashed. It's no more difficult than that.
-- DZ
--
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CompuZink Computer Consulting -- http://www.compuzink.com
Patrick Patterson
"Streaming Wizard" <da...@davidzinkin.com> wrote in message
news:david-0B26DE....@typhoon1-3.nyroc.rr.com...
> In article <9Wda7.749$B.7...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
> "Patrick Patterson" <patters...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > He answered "The ABC Studios and Vegas SYndie versions appear to be
> > the versions from which the episodes to be shown in the marathon
> > come." He was being helpful, he mentioned that those were the
> > episodes in the marathon, he never said those were the only episodes
> > they had, and never said they didn't have others. He made it clear
> > that those episodes were being shown in the marathon, and that the
> > person he was replying to could have taken that any way they wanted.
>
> Pat, the fact is that Zach -- true to form -- did not answer the
> question, and instead repeated comments that had already been made.
> Were this an occasional thing, no one would bash Zach, but this is
> something Zach does *all the time*. For all the complaints about
> off-topic posts within a newsgroup, Zach won't even stay on-topic within
> a *thread*.
I can agree with most of that. You're right, he did not answer the question
itself, and he did repeat information (which does make me amd, especially
when it happens to something I had reported), but he did supply information
that may have helped the person that asked the question.
>
> > > And BTW, stop defending him for being inane.
> >
> > Rarely do I defend Zach, but just like how people were attacking
> > Steve Beverly for stupid reasons (my gosh, his dog died and then
> > someone starts attacking him for making a tribute for him?), people
> > have started bashing Zach for stupid reasons.
>
> His tendency to answer every question *except* the one that's been asked
> is why he gets bashed. It's no more difficult than that.
I realize that, and I'm not talking about all bashing (MOST (99%) of which
he deserves), but about the bashing that we give him for less than smart
reasons. Just like that thing about Steve Beverly and his dog.
Sherman Potter
news:david-0B26DE....@typhoon1-3.nyroc.rr.com...
> His tendency to answer every question *except* the one that's been asked
> is why he gets bashed. It's no more difficult than that.
And then there's the mommygram scandal...
Streaming Wizard
"Patrick Patterson" <patters...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I can agree with most of that. You're right, he did not answer the question
> itself, and he did repeat information (which does make me amd, especially
> when it happens to something I had reported), but he did supply information
> that may have helped the person that asked the question.
By *that* standard, if Matt Ottinger asks about "The Love Experts," I
should reply with a fact about "The $25,000 Pyramid" even though it
doesn't come close to answering the question, just because Matt might
find it useful.
This is, in a nutshell, the Zach point of view -- and whether or not you
want to admit that you're defending it, that's exactly what you're doing.
> > > > And BTW, stop defending him for being inane.
> > >
> > > Rarely do I defend Zach, but just like how people were attacking
> > > Steve Beverly for stupid reasons (my gosh, his dog died and then
> > > someone starts attacking him for making a tribute for him?), people
> > > have started bashing Zach for stupid reasons.
> >
> > His tendency to answer every question *except* the one that's been asked
> > is why he gets bashed. It's no more difficult than that.
>
> I realize that,
Then why are you persisting in defending Momma's Boy?
> and I'm not talking about all bashing (MOST (99%) of which
> he deserves), but about the bashing that we give him for less than smart
> reasons. Just like that thing about Steve Beverly and his dog.
I've never bashed Zach for giving correct, on-topic information --
though of course, he's done that, what, once or twice? Nor have I
bashed Beverly for posting about his dog. (In fact, I've publicly
criticized others who *did* bash Zach and Beverly when it's not
warranted.) However, in this case it was perfectly appropriate.
Streaming Wizard
"Sherman Potter" <pot...@4077.mash.mil> wrote:
True, but we've seen far more stupid Zachygrams than Mommygrams.
Brandon Brooks
"Patrick Patterson" <patters...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<9Wda7.749$B.7...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
> > That's not necessarily logical to think. GSN may only be airing
> > seventies episodes because those may be the ones that are most
> > memorable to the demographic audience. Like they used to do with
> > Combs' FF, they could reserve an eighties episode for the weekends.
> > But just because there are none in this marathon doesn't mean they
> > don't have them (Remember the FF 25 special? They didn't show any
> > Combs' FFs, but they sure as hell have them.)
> >
>
> Ummm.. The FF25 special had 7 episodes, this upcoming marathon has 35 :-)
SO WHAT! Did you miss my point? Re-read the message again if you
did.
> > > And, as not
> > > to confuse the person, he mentioned that those were being shown in the
> > > marathon, so they COULD have other versions.
> >
> > My point *was* that they COULD have other versions. But he didn't
> > answer didn't satify the original question "out of the following
> > "versions" of LMAD, which were acquired by GSN?" in his original post,
> > no matter what you think. He could have said "I don't know, but they
> > are showing all seventies episodes for the marathon", but then that
> > would have been an useless post, much like the one I'm making now
> > telling Zach to read before he posts.
> >
>
> He answered "The ABC Studios and Vegas SYndie versions appear to be the
> versions from which the episodes to be shown in the marathon come." He was
> being helpful, he mentioned that those were the episodes in the marathon, he
> never said those were the only episodes they had, and never said they didn't
> have others.
Honestly, do you think by telling me that they are going to air 70s
shows this week you are telling me what versions of LMAD GSN has? It
wasn't helpful because any fool could see that the week's episodes are
from the 70s in the previous post. You aren't making any sense.
> He made it clear that those episodes were being shown in the
> marathon, and that the person he was replying to could have taken that any
> way they wanted.
And again, how is that answering the person's question WHAT VERSIONS
DO THEY HAVE?
> > And BTW, stop defending him for being inane.
> >
>
> Rarely do I defend Zach, but just like how people were attacking Steve
> Beverly for stupid reasons (my gosh, his dog died and then someone starts
> attacking him for making a tribute for him?), people have started bashing
> Zach for stupid reasons.
Two totally different things. Zach has a lot of info about the world
of game shows. But he feels it is his duty to answer any and every
question EXCEPT THE ONE THAT IS ASKED. I totally understood Steve
Beverly's actions in that sense of writing a tribute to something
personal to him; it reassures us that he's human and not a game show
prof with nothing else to live for except for game shows.
What I still don't understand is why when you know Zach put forth
unworthy info you are dead set on defending his stupidity?
Brandon Brooks
Brandon Brooks
> In article <9kcf8...@enews3.newsguy.com>,
> "Sherman Potter" <pot...@4077.mash.mil> wrote:
>
> > "Streaming Wizard" <da...@davidzinkin.com> wrote in message
> > news:david-0B26DE....@typhoon1-3.nyroc.rr.com...
> >
> > > His tendency to answer every question *except* the one that's been
> > > asked is why he gets bashed. It's no more difficult than that.
> >
> > And then there's the mommygram scandal...
>
> True, but we've seen far more stupid Zachygrams than Mommygrams.
>
> -- DZ
Oooooh. I would love a Mommygram. Then I could a glass of milk,
drink it, and see how far it will stream out of my nose from me
laughing so hard!
Brandon Brooks
Rarrowood17
would remember the line (said by Monty himself) that said "The episodes will be
from all eras, except the 1990 version, which I co-produced with Dick Clark."
Just because GSN isn't airing it in the marathon doesn't mean they don't have
it. When GSN started back in 1994, they had "Hot Potato", "Break the Bank",
"Ruckus", and other shows, but did they air all of them right away. Just
because GSN doesn't air it doesn't mean they don't have it.
Brandon Brooks
That point has been made countless times by me.
Brandon Brooks
Curt Alliaume
Brandon...@Yahoo.com (Brandon Brooks) writes:
I think the point would be unless GSN makes a deal with Dick Clark Productions,
they cannot air the 1990-91 Let's Make a Deal because of the co-ownership.
Similar to why they can't air Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour (assuming
Gene's daughter would okay it now) unless they make a deal with Orion, or King
World, or Whoopi, or whoever the show belonged to/belongs to.
-- Curt Alliaume
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Game Shows '75
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/2827/gameshow.html
Brandon Brooks
> Similar to why they can't air Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour (assuming
> Gene's daughter would okay it now) unless they make a deal with Orion, or King
> World, or Whoopi, or whoever the show belonged to/belongs to.
Who does that show belong to anyway. Is it King World and someone
else in Gene's family?
Brandon Brooks
Zach Horan
>Who does that show belong to anyway. Is it King World and someone
>else in Gene's family?
It's jointly owned by MGM and Pearson, MGM(Orion is now a part of them) because
they own the back episodes of Squares(MArshall, MGHS, and Davidson), and
Pearson, because they own the rights to Match Game. Rayburn supposedly would
not let MGHS air in reruns, whether his daughter Lynn can boycott the airing of
it if it would ever be considered for rerun usage is another story,
Curt Alliaume
Brandon...@Yahoo.com (Brandon Brooks) writes:
It belongs to King World (I think) and Pearson/MGP (definitely). GSN has
leased MGP's library, but who knows if that show is among them because of the
cross ownership?
I don't think anyone here has confirmed it for a fact, but it's been said Gene
declined to clear his appearances on the show (as Chuck Henry did for the
latter-day Now You See It).
Getting back on topic, to air the 1990-91 LMaD episodes, GSN would have to get
clearance from both Hatos-Hall Productions (which they would assumedly get) and
Ron Greenberg-Dick Clark Productions (who knows?).
Zach Horan
>get
>clearance from both Hatos-Hall Productions (which they would assumedly get)
>and
>Ron Greenberg-Dick Clark Productions (who knows?).
>
They'd have to get clearance from Dick Clark and/or Ron Greenberg and maybe
even Disney(as it was syndicated by Buena Vista TV)
>
>It belongs to King World (I think) and Pearson/MGP (definitely). GSN has
>leased MGP's library, but who knows if that show is among them because of the
>cross ownership?
It's in the GT library, but GSN can't air it because of MGM, not King World.
MGM owns the back episodes of Squares(i.e. Marshall, MGHS, and Davidson)
Nicholas J. Mooneyhan
>
> They'd have to get clearance from Dick Clark and/or Ron Greenberg and maybe
> even Disney(as it was syndicated by Buena Vista TV)
>
The show was on NBC! It was not syndicated, Buena Vista was merely the
packager of the show.
ZHIFOS!
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