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James Fabiano

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Feb 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/23/97
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In all your years of watching game shows, have there ever been any contestants
that genuinely got on your nerves....I mean, ones you really hated? If you
can name some, I'd like to hear about it here.

Personally, one contestant I couldn't stand was Denise from the final Jim Perry
Card Sharks. She was just SO annoying, I don't think she said one thing
without raising her voice.

J.F.

Jeremy Soria

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Feb 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/24/97
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jfab...@eden.rutgers.edu (James Fabiano) wrote:

>Personally, one contestant I couldn't stand was Denise from the final Jim Perry
>Card Sharks. She was just SO annoying, I don't think she said one thing
>without raising her voice.

She reminded me of Goldie Hawn and one of my old schoolmates. Especially when
she almost had that run during the next-to-last match with Michelle. I love
contestants like those.

You want contestants to really hate? Check out TPiR.

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Randy Amasia

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James Fabiano <jfab...@eden.rutgers.edu> wrote in article
<5eqqr7$c...@er7.rutgers.edu>...

> In all your years of watching game shows, have there ever been
any contestants
> that genuinely got on your nerves....I mean, ones you really
hated? If you
> can name some, I'd like to hear about it here.

Easy!

Pat Aiello (sp?) from "Whew!" -- she was trounced on the Monday
8/27 episode.

Kurt Weldon was prevented from making it a 3-peat on the April
23, 1986 episode of J!

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Guy Bozlinski

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jfab...@eden.rutgers.edu (James Fabiano) wrote:
>
>In all your years of watching game shows, have there ever been any
contestants
>that genuinely got on your nerves....I mean, ones you really hated? If
you
>can name some, I'd like to hear about it here.
>

On Press Your Luck there was one contestant who when he won would thrus
his arms in the air and yell "I WIN I WIN!!!!" If I were one of the two
opponents and had a wammy, I would have ripped it off the panel and
smacked him in the head.
They say violence on tv desensitises children, guess it's true. I no
longer get mad at TPiR conestants who don't know what you get when you
take a number and add 1 to it.

*Guy*


Troy N. Diggs

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Feb 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/25/97
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> James Fabiano <jfab...@eden.rutgers.edu> wrote in article
> <5eqqr7$c...@er7.rutgers.edu>...
> > In all your years of watching game shows, have there ever been
> any contestants
> > that genuinely got on your nerves....I mean, ones you really
> hated? If you
> > can name some, I'd like to hear about it here.

One comes to mind...

A guy named Alfred, from "NTT '84"... one of those pilot eps with Tune
Countdown and the pathetic Melody Roulette wheel. While this isn't
word-for-word verbatim, here is basically how his Bid-A-Note round
went with opponent Diana...

Diana: "I can name that tune in 6 notes."
Alfred: (extra-sarcastically) "Oh, I'm REALLY impressed! I can do it in
FIVE!!!"
Diana: "I can do it in 4."
Alfred: (extra-extra-sarcastically) "I'm shakin! I'm sweating! I can do
it in (gives semi-obscene gesture, depending on where you are) THREE."
Diana: "I can do it in 2."
Alfred: "You got it, babe."

Alfred was rude, ignorant, and worst of all, won... luckily, he didn't
finish the Golden Medley, as he couldn't name the song "Every Breath You
Take" by the Police. =^D

TND

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The Short Circus

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Feb 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/25/97
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"Troy N. Diggs" <tdi...@quapaw.astate.edu> wrote:


>A guy named Alfred, from "NTT '84"... one of those pilot eps with Tune
>Countdown and the pathetic Melody Roulette wheel. While this isn't
>word-for-word verbatim, here is basically how his Bid-A-Note round
>went with opponent Diana...


Oh along those same lines, what about the NTT '84 guy...This one
sentence should say it all (for those of you GSC4 people, you'll know
what I'm talking about....)

"I DON'T GET A ROUND MUCH A NY MORE!!!!!!!!!" And then when he found
out there was indeed 1 second on the clock and that he hadn't won
yet, he waited, and when the clock expired, he jumped up and down
yelling "I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON!!". Pretty much acted like a total
buttmunch and the woman playing against him didn't seem all that
thrilled...

richardh

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Feb 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/25/97
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In article <01bc22ea$f1e157a0$c33e...@loop.loop.com>,

Randy Amasia <ran...@loop.com> wrote:
>James Fabiano <jfab...@eden.rutgers.edu> wrote in article
><5eqqr7$c...@er7.rutgers.edu>...
>> In all your years of watching game shows, have there ever been
>any contestants
>> that genuinely got on your nerves....I mean, ones you really
>hated? If you
>> can name some, I'd like to hear about it here.
>
>Easy!
>
>Pat Aiello (sp?) from "Whew!" -- she was trounced on the Monday
>8/27 episode.
>
>Kurt Weldon was prevented from making it a 3-peat on the April
>23, 1986 episode of J!
>
>--


I have a few.

all the morons who ever id less than $10,000 on a showcase after 1990
The twit who won only $50 in the Winner's Circle <Oops, they actually
gamer the until-then unheard of "house minimum of $100>
Thomas Van Dike. i liked when he won the Joker jackpot the first three or
four times that i sew that ep, but they kepy rerunning those (0's Joker
eps so many times that I could'nt even stand to watch any more.


Richard Hudson

bma...@mail.sgi.net

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Feb 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/25/97
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richardh wrote:
>
> >> In all your years of watching game shows, have there ever been
> >any contestants
> >> that genuinely got on your nerves....I mean, ones you really
> >hated? If you
> >> can name some, I'd like to hear about it here.
> >

> all the morons who ever id less than $10,000 on a showcase after 1990


> The twit who won only $50 in the Winner's Circle <Oops, they actually
> gamer the until-then unheard of "house minimum of $100>
> Thomas Van Dike. i liked when he won the Joker jackpot the first three or
> four times that i sew that ep, but they kepy rerunning those (0's Joker
> eps so many times that I could'nt even stand to watch any more.

Actually, I get a different picture in my head when someone asks if I
have ever hated any game show contestant. I have gotten frustrated at
some contestants while I was watching them lose on easy answers--this
sounds like what is being described above--but as far as contestants I
actually didn't like for the people that they were, I do have a few. I
could probably name names, but in general, they fall under a number of
categories:

1. People who want the money so bad that they are lousy sports when they
lose.

2. People who are smug and/or arrogant to the host, their fellow
contestants or the celebrities.

3. People with a know-it-all attitude while they are playing.


On the opposite end of the spectrum are the contestants who are a
delight to watch, people who are there to have fun and play their
favorite game on TV and would be thrilled to win a curling iron. These
people have respect for the celebs and the host, they cheer for their
fellow contestants (is there anyone here who had a dry eye when Toby and
Robyn both gave Richard a big hug after he won the $100,000 in the
first-ever 100K "Pyramid" tournament?), they are genuinely having fun
playing the game, and they are happy just to get the chance to play.
Fortunately, game shows mostly feature these kind of people.

Two instances spring to mind: In 1985, a woman had just lost a chance to
play the "Super Password" end game for $25,000. Her opponent went over
with Fred Grandy, and they won the 25K. Seconds later, that woman's
former opponent ran over and hugged the woman and congratulated her. She
seemed almost as thrilled as the money-winner did. The other is when I
saw the taping of the first "$100,000 Pyramid" with John Davidson. Right
brfore the show started, the two contestants were sitting at the tables,
ready to play. When the big pyramid started to blink, you could tell
that they both knew the game would start very soon. They both got up
from their seats and hugged each other tightly and said "good luck" to
each other.

Now those are the kind of contestants I LOVE to watch on game shows. You
didn't ask me, but I volunteered it anyway. So there, ha ha ha.

The Beatmaster

The Short Circus

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Feb 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/26/97
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bma...@mail.sgi.net wrote:


>that they both knew the game would start very soon. They both got up
>from their seats and hugged each other tightly and said "good luck" to
>each other.

>Now those are the kind of contestants I LOVE to watch on game shows. You
>didn't ask me, but I volunteered it anyway. So there, ha ha ha.

>The Beatmaster

Did you ever see "Child's Play"? That seems to happen almost all the
time when I watch it (especially when they had "Turnabout"). As Bill
Cullen invites the winning contestant to come up and play the Bonus
Round, the losing contestant almost always wishes the winning
contestant luck. I like that.

JDinan8271

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Feb 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/26/97
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Great poll! Here's my vote...

I forget his name, but he was a music teacher who won $100,000 in
the 1984 version of Name That Tune. While he may have been the best
contestant the show had (face it, he was a great player), he had the
biggest ego I ever remembered from a contestant.
Ex: in the $100,000 playoffs, he asks Jim Lange in Bid-A-Note if
he could answer the question with one hemi-demi-semi-quaver, which is the
shortest note in music. He kept going with this for 30 seconds, until Jim
FINALLY told him to answer in one note, which he got. A very annoying
contestant, IMO.

James Dinan
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Troy N. Diggs

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Feb 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/26/97
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Oh, yes... you're talking about the illustrious Tommy Simmons... Chri$ L!
loves him. =^D

Two side notes: one, during one the pilot eps of NTT (the one
aformentioned with "Sweet Alfred"), Jim says he's looking for a
"schoolteacher", and immediately, Tommy stands up to come down... just a
shame they were looking for somebody else. =^D

Also, Tommy never changed his wardrobe between 1981 and 1984, as he was
wearing that same dumb velvet jacket on his run on "Face the Music"... he
was defeated by a guy who won $10,000. =^D

Charles Blaquière

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bma...@mail.sgi.net wrote:
>
> 1. People who want the money so bad that they are lousy sports when they
> lose.
>
> 2. People who are smug and/or arrogant to the host, their fellow
> contestants or the celebrities.
>
> 3. People with a know-it-all attitude while they are playing.
>
> On the opposite end of the spectrum are the contestants who are a
> delight to watch, people who are there to have fun and play their
> favorite game on TV and would be thrilled to win a curling iron. These
> people have respect for the celebs and the host, they cheer for their
> fellow contestants [...], they are genuinely having fun

> playing the game, and they are happy just to get the chance to play.

Amen to that. Whenever I played a game show, I would always strive to
appear at my best -- bright and witty. But there is a fine line between
someone who's witty and a know-it-all, and I most definitely did not want
to come across as the latter. There was only one time, when I beat this
poor woman 1800-to-100 in a song identification game, that my débonnaire
attitude might've overstepped its bounds. After all, this was an
extremely frustrating time for my opponent, and I really should've toned
it down, in respect for her. Unfortunately, I was caught up in the
moment.

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I haven't seen "Child's Play" for a LONG time, but I think I may have to
request a couple of episodes in my next trade, now that you mention it.
You reminded me of another case of contestant comraderie: Remember
around 1987, when contestants on "Super Password" started to give each
other a hug when they did the crossover after the $200 puzzle? I always
liked that.

The Beatmaster

Zach Horan

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The contestant who was the $100K winning teacher from 1984-5 Name That
Tune was Tommy Simmons, who was a 2-time champ on FtM winning $8K I
think in prizes(from a 1995 FAM rerun).
The contestant who couldn't name Every Breath you Take(Police 1983 #1
from the Synchronicity album, mentioned in a Jeopardy clue Tuesday
night(2/25)), was a woman I thought(remembering back to the 1995 FAM
reruns). But I do remember the You Got It, Babe, contestant from that
same week of pilot episodes(Tune Countdown, etc.)

Guy Bozlinski

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jdina...@aol.com (JDinan8271) wrote:
> Ex: in the $100,000 playoffs, he asks Jim Lange in Bid-A-Note
if
>he could answer the question with one hemi-demi-semi-quaver, which is
the
>shortest note in music. He kept going with this for 30 seconds, until
Jim
>FINALLY told him to answer in one note, which he got. A very annoying
>contestant, IMO

To sidetrack for a minute- NTT was never one of my favorite gameshows,
but didn't they finally allowed contestants to bid NO notes? (ie- name
the tune of the clue? But when the ruls was lth minimum you could bid is
one note, that contestant does come across as a jerk.

*Guy*


Fred McKinney

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On 23 Feb 1997 20:28:07 -0500, jfab...@eden.rutgers.edu (James
Fabiano) wrote:

>In all your years of watching game shows, have there ever been any contestants
>that genuinely got on your nerves....I mean, ones you really hated? If you
>can name some, I'd like to hear about it here.

Several people on TPIR have been guilty of this, no doubt--people who,
while in contestant's row, outbid someone by one dollar. They should
have them enter in their bids on keypads or at least not have Bob
Barker repeat someone else's bid if a contestant asks him to do so.

Someone else I remember (I don't remember his name) who must have
royally made an ass of himself on Tic Tac Dough got kinda mad about
something on the set and was ready to try to block his opponent and
then some kinda tantrum started and they fast-forwarded the tape until
after the outburst and Wink made him take a square that wouldn't block
his opponent. On the next play, the champion (I don't remember who it
was--I think it was during Brian Donovan's reign of 33 games or
something, but I'm not sure) selected the box and came up with his
three X's in a row. Whoever that loser was deserved to lose! Does
anyone remember this particular episode?

Fred
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Jake Tanner

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I_do_not_like@green_eggs_and_SPAM.com (Fred McKinney) wrote:

>Someone else I remember (I don't remember his name) who must have
>royally made an ass of himself on Tic Tac Dough got kinda mad about
>something on the set and was ready to try to block his opponent and
>then some kinda tantrum started and they fast-forwarded the tape until
>after the outburst and Wink made him take a square that wouldn't block
>his opponent. On the next play, the champion (I don't remember who it
>was--I think it was during Brian Donovan's reign of 33 games or
>something, but I'm not sure) selected the box and came up with his
>three X's in a row. Whoever that loser was deserved to lose! Does
>anyone remember this particular episode?

That sounds like a potentially fuzzy memory...number one, rather than
fast-forwarding a tape, they would have simply edited out the
offending segment...and number two, Wink couldn't make a contestant
take a square that they didn't want...if the contestant called for a
square that didn't work to their advantage, it would have been their
own error...for Wink to select the square would suggest rigging and I
seriously doubt this happened...

Jake


Charles Donegan

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"Troy N. Diggs" <tdi...@quapaw.astate.edu> wrote:

>Two side notes: one, during one the pilot eps of NTT (the one
>aformentioned with "Sweet Alfred"), Jim says he's looking for a
>"schoolteacher", and immediately, Tommy stands up to come down... just a
>shame they were looking for somebody else. =^D

Does anybody have the pilot and/or the $100K tourney finals w/Tommy
Simmons? I'd really like to have them in my collection (no FAM episodes,
please!)


>
>Also, Tommy never changed his wardrobe between 1981 and 1984, as he was
>wearing that same dumb velvet jacket on his run on "Face the Music"... he
>was defeated by a guy who won $10,000. =^D

In addition, does anyone have Tommy's FtM appearance? (Again, nothing
from FAM reruns)

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")


Troy N. Diggs

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On 27 Feb 1997, Guy Bozlinski wrote:

> To sidetrack for a minute- NTT was never one of my favorite gameshows,
> but didn't they finally allowed contestants to bid NO notes? (ie- name
> the tune of the clue? But when the ruls was lth minimum you could bid is
> one note, that contestant does come across as a jerk.

Nope... at least on the '84 version, they could go only to 1. =^)

J Vincent

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Fred McKinney wrote:
>
> On 23 Feb 1997 20:28:07 -0500, jfab...@eden.rutgers.edu (James
> Fabiano) wrote:
>
> >In all your years of watching game shows, have there ever been any contestants
> >that genuinely got on your nerves....I mean, ones you really hated? If you
> >can name some, I'd like to hear about it here.
>
> Several people on TPIR have been guilty of this, no doubt--people who,
> while in contestant's row, outbid someone by one dollar. They should
> have them enter in their bids on keypads or at least not have Bob
> Barker repeat someone else's bid if a contestant asks him to do so.

Exactly what is wrong with outbidding by one dollar? This is done
several times on every show, and I can't imagine people doing it out of
spite for another contestant. They're just taking advantage of a
favorable situation. The last bidder still has to decide *which*
contestant to outbid.

This is akin to criticizing a contestant in the lead going into Final J!
for wagering an amount that would give said leader a $1 margin of
victory if both s/he and the second-place contestant get the question
right. Such people are just using the rules to their advantage.

(I do agree that people should pay attention during One Bid, rather than
ask Bob what previous bids were.)

On the other hand, I deplore contestants who (unlike the $1-more One Bid
folks) have *no* grasp of rudimentary strategy. For example, from TPiR,
I offer the Secret X player several years ago who placed her X's as such
(1 = freebie X, 2 = won X):

|?|2
-+-+-
1|?|
-+-+-
|?|

The Secret X was in the center square. Not that it mattered.

Later, on the SCSD, she spun 95 cents on her first spin and it took some
strong coercing from Bob and several cardiac arrests in the audience to
talk her out of spinning again.

Luckily, another contestant spun $1, keeping her from the Showcase.

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In article <5f0h3o$gu4$1...@news3.microserve.net>, pie...@csrlink.net (The Short Circus) writes:

>Did you ever see "Child's Play"? That seems to happen almost all the
>time when I watch it (especially when they had "Turnabout"). As Bill
>Cullen invites the winning contestant to come up and play the Bonus
>Round, the losing contestant almost always wishes the winning
>contestant luck. I like that.

Who was the Contestant Coordinator? My guess was that because there were children on the show, they attempted to instill some sportsmanship. Or maybe it had something to do with the contestants themselves--all were either parents, grandparents, or twentish grad students.....

"I didn't give ANOTHER illegal clue did I?"
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Randy Amasia

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bma...@mail.sgi.net wrote in article
<331509...@mail.sgi.net>...

> I haven't seen "Child's Play" for a LONG time, but I think I
may have to
> request a couple of episodes in my next trade, now that you
mention it.
> You reminded me of another case of contestant comraderie:
Remember
> around 1987, when contestants on "Super Password" started to
give each
> other a hug when they did the crossover after the $200 puzzle?
I always
> liked that.

Save for my opponent, all of us in W! had a great comraderie w/
each other. And on J!, when I was waiting to go on, a chamipon
retired undefeated. All the remaining contestants game him a
standing ovation, and after the tape stopped rolling, his
opponents were overjoyed for him.

Guy Bozlinski

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J Vincent <NOSPAMj...@mcs.net> wrote:
>> Several people on TPIR have been guilty of this, no doubt--people who,

>> while in contestant's row, outbid someone by one dollar. They should
>> have them enter in their bids on keypads or at least not have Bob
>> Barker repeat someone else's bid if a contestant asks him to do so.

A couple of points. First, the rulw has always been the one at a time
bidding- you would have to change this by having the contestants enter
their bidds on a keyboard. After all, there has to be a minimum bid you
can bid over and I don't favor allowing ranges for bids- ie you bid 700
and that would cover up to 5 above- ie 700-705.

As for repeating bids this has been mentioned before. We the viewers
hear the nice edited version. The contestants do after all speak into
microphones. On stage hower, the contestants do NOT have that luxury.
They are on stage and can only hear what there ears pickup. Now, as the
contestants give their bids, what is the audience yelling? OTHER BIDS
which the contestants hear just as easy as the other contestants bids. A
contestant can NOT be penalized for poor hearing- if Bob could not repeat
the contestants bids, they either would have to add a display showing
the bids or worse- eliminate the audience partcipation which would be a
death sentence to the show.

*Guy*


Allan Richards

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I think the thing that I can't stand the most on TPIR is contestants who,
in their total ignorance for the rules and lack of paying attention to
explanations, bid $1 UNDER a bidder in constestants row, making it
Impossible (unless they were right on) to win.

I can forgive the contestants in 10 chances who insist on trying to make
the prices too complicated, or the people who pick the wrong products in
a game like Hole in One -- I mean, it is really only people like us who
watch with any great regularity who would pick up on consistentcy in
prices or know to the penny of some of the products,
BUT
for the fact that the One-Bids are so clearly explained, and the only
reason people are bidding one dollar under the previous bidder is
because they've heard it being done but are so oblivious as to the
strategy behind it...grrrr...

unless they really don't want the prize, or have glanced over at the
board showing the games to be played and don't want to play the game
they're bidding to get up for......so they purposely throw it....

hasn't Bob said something to players doing that before? (making
rediculous bids)...oh well....

While I'm posting (a rare occaision for me) I have another question.

Why is it that they (backstage crew) on TPIR always partially close the
big doors again immediately after opening them (just to the point where
the green rims extend to).
Do they want the TPIR logo to be showing in full (split in half, but
still visible), or do they want to hide a bit of the back-stage stuff,
or...well, i can't think of any other reasons.

I have just always thought that this makes the door opening look sooo
much smaller, and often "cramps in" the prizes (or people when the waving
after a show is going on).

Does anyone know for sure why they do this? I have been curios since
the first time I saw it done.

A L L A N

bma...@mail.sgi.net

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What exactly would be wrong with having a display for the contestants to
see the bids? I think it's a great idea.

The Beatmaster

Matt Kaiser

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Mar 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/3/97
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I am getting tired of TPIR contestants who ask "what kind of car is it?"
(and obviously, so is Bob) Also, contestants who come right up to Bob
when called to c'mon down. (ok, it was funny at first, but it's happened
more frequently.) What's wrong with the contestant coming up on stage to
greet Barker? That's all they want to do, shake the legend's hand! They
know darn well that they aren't SUPPOSED to be on stage.
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MJsaints

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Well, folks, time to enter my annoying contestant entry. She's nowhere
near our fiend Alfred (I had forgotten about him--Darn you Troy!) but I
still can recall a short black woman with horn-rimmed glasses named
Carolyn Kennedy who on the original "Split Second" screamed obnoxiously
when she won--and argued on-camera with Tom Kennedy when she didn't.
(Extremely deadly for a fast-paced show like "SS.") And then, it seemed
only a few months later (violating S&P rules about eligibility?) that she
was on "Now You See It" with a different last name doing the same thing to
Tom Kennedy's brother. This was over 20 years ago, folks, but I still
remember her like a bad dream.


Mark Jeffries--from darkest Uptown, Chicago

Guy Bozlinski

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rich...@uoguelph.ca (Allan Richards) wrote:
>for the fact that the One-Bids are so clearly explained, and the only
>reason people are bidding one dollar under the previous bidder is
>because they've heard it being done but are so oblivious as to the
>strategy behind it...grrrr...

a few weeks ago, there was a contestant in CR- she would constantly bid
One dollar over one of the other three- obviously,, she very quickly won
her way on stage as that is the 100% correct strategy if you are bidding
last and do not know the exact price.

*Guy*


bma...@mail.sgi.net

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MJsaints wrote:
>
> Well, folks, time to enter my annoying contestant entry. She's nowhere
> near our fiend Alfred (I had forgotten about him--Darn you Troy!) but I
> still can recall a short black woman with horn-rimmed glasses named
> Carolyn Kennedy who on the original "Split Second" screamed obnoxiously
> when she won--and argued on-camera with Tom Kennedy when she didn't.
> (Extremely deadly for a fast-paced show like "SS.")

Not only is it deadly, don't they specifically tell you not to challenge
the validity of answers or questions on the air? Randy? Mike? Aaron?
Care to elaborate?

I don't hate the contestant I'm about to describe, but he did some
annoying things. If anyone else has seen the "Match Game" from 1990
that aired the day before the Halloween episode, you'll remember Rick.
The secon-round question had to do with a guy who thinks his wife
doesn't like him anymore; when he came home from the hospital on
crutches, the floor was covered with "BLANK." And Rick's answer was "a
lubricant." Now, obviously he was trying to say the broadest possible
answer in order to match the most celebrities possible, but when the
celebs answered things like "grease," "oil" and "Vaseline," the judges
wouldn't consider it a match, and rightfuuly so since they can't match a
generic answer to specific answers. Well, you could tell he was steamed,
and he questioned the judges' decision on the air, but he should have
known better. And in Final Match-Up, he opened his mouth wide in
disbelief whenever Ronn Lucas's answers didn't match his choices, and
when he ended up with a very low score, he wouldn't even look Ronn in
the eye! Well, some contestants might be tempted to blame the celebrity
when they do poorly, but playing that same round of match-ups at home,
there's no way I would have chosen the same answers as Rick did. I just
didn't like his attitude on the air.

And speaking of contestants who blame the celebrities: How about Noreen
Wald? I like this woman's book, but she's got a lot to learn about tact.
Not only did she insult practically every celebrity with whom she
appeared on a game show, but she gave LOUSY "Pyramid" advice. She said
that she shouted her answers in the Winners' Circle as fast as she
could so that her partner (Sheila MacRae, which she misspelled) would
have less of a chance of making a mistake. If there's anything that
"Pyramid" contestants have been told, it's to give the celebrities a
chance to get a couple of clues out and to lay back when giving their
answers. I just don't think she gave enough credit to her partners and
opponents on the shows. Her "Password" appearance aired on GSN recently,
and I'd like to see exactly how good a player she really is (hint,
Jake.)

And this all reminds me ... I wonder if that guy is still bitter about
Cloris Leachman's wrong clue about the Leaning Tower of Pisa on "The
$10,000 Pyramid" ...


The Beatmaster

JTRH

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Allan Richards speculated about why someone would bid $1 UNDER a previous
bid in Contestants' Row:

<<unless they really don't want the prize, or have glanced over at the
board showing the games to be played and don't want to play the game
they're bidding to get up for......so they purposely throw it....>>

Is the board showing the games to be played visible to the audience or
those in Contestants' Row? I'd think if the players knew that the next
game would be for a cheaper prize, and the one after that for a car,
they'd ALL throw the upcoming one-bid. You'd never get anybody up on
stage to play Grocery Game for a spa if they knew that Three Strikes for a
Lincoln Town Car would be coming up one game later.

Jeremy or any of the other PiR experts out there: Does anybody know how
the order of the pricing games is determined? Aside from the general rule
that they play one car game in each half of the show; staging
considerations (such as the fact that Golden Road must always be the first
game of the day); and the fact that each set of three games has to add up
to a specific length of time, what determines which game is played when?

Just wondering...
John Holder

Matt Kaiser

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> I have that episode. Indeed the guy looked rather peeved about it. That
episode has got to have one of the WORST MG playing in history. His
opponent, Vicki, wasn't doing too well with the game herself. Her
response to the question "Zaphoid the alien said: 'We came to earth to
search for signs of intelligent life. We couldn't find any, because we
landed in ______. Her answer: Iraq. (In my opinion, a very good answer.)
but no matches.

>

Jeremy Soria

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jt...@aol.com (JTRH) wrote:

>Is the board showing the games to be played visible to the audience or
>those in Contestants' Row?

I believe so (it's off to the contestants' left near Rog and Fingers' table)
because when Brian Lesko was on the show, he could see the Pricing Games board
easily.

>I'd think if the players knew that the next
>game would be for a cheaper prize, and the one after that for a car,
>they'd ALL throw the upcoming one-bid. You'd never get anybody up on
>stage to play Grocery Game for a spa if they knew that Three Strikes for a
>Lincoln Town Car would be coming up one game later.

Problem: not everyone knows the price of every item on the show.

Then again, TPiR could be having one of those days where you never know when
they'll give away a car on a non-car game.

>Jeremy or any of the other PiR experts out there: Does anybody know how
>the order of the pricing games is determined? Aside from the general rule
>that they play one car game in each half of the show; staging
>considerations (such as the fact that Golden Road must always be the first
>game of the day); and the fact that each set of three games has to add up
>to a specific length of time, what determines which game is played when?

They have to play one Small PRizes game and one Grocery Items game, one in
each half. The fourth PG *HAS* to be a quickie because of the local break
afterwards.

- Jeremy If Atlanta is not "Loserville" anymore,
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Jake Tanner

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bma...@mail.sgi.net wrote:

>And speaking of contestants who blame the celebrities: How about Noreen
>Wald? I like this woman's book, but she's got a lot to learn about tact.
>Not only did she insult practically every celebrity with whom she
>appeared on a game show, but she gave LOUSY "Pyramid" advice. She said
>that she shouted her answers in the Winners' Circle as fast as she
>could so that her partner (Sheila MacRae, which she misspelled) would
>have less of a chance of making a mistake. If there's anything that
>"Pyramid" contestants have been told, it's to give the celebrities a
>chance to get a couple of clues out and to lay back when giving their
>answers. I just don't think she gave enough credit to her partners and
>opponents on the shows. Her "Password" appearance aired on GSN recently,
>and I'd like to see exactly how good a player she really is (hint,
>Jake.)

I'm glad you reminded me of this one...I've wanted to see just how
good a player this lady really was...I agree with you...she came
across as terribly rude and pompous in her book...I do have that
episode in question (Jane Fonda & James Mason) and I'll take a look at
it soon...just haven't been able to get caught up on the cataloging
(SURPRISE SURPRISE!)...:)

Jake


Randy Amasia

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bma...@mail.sgi.net wrote in article
<331E48...@mail.sgi.net>...


> MJsaints wrote:
> >
> > Well, folks, time to enter my annoying contestant entry.
She's nowhere
> > near our fiend Alfred (I had forgotten about him--Darn you
Troy!) but I
> > still can recall a short black woman with horn-rimmed
glasses named
> > Carolyn Kennedy who on the original "Split Second" screamed
obnoxiously
> > when she won--and argued on-camera with Tom Kennedy when she
didn't.
> > (Extremely deadly for a fast-paced show like "SS.")
>
> Not only is it deadly, don't they specifically tell you not to
challenge
> the validity of answers or questions on the air? Randy? Mike?
Aaron?
> Care to elaborate?

That is an absolute no-no. On both J! and W!, we were asked to
*please* wait 'til a com;l break and take it up w/ the
Contestant Coordinator, who would then fetch the Producer and
S & P. The folks who run game shows really do take great pains
to make sure their answers are accurate beyond a doubt, but
sometimes a contesatnt will come up w/ a perfectly valid
alternate answer.

Jake Tanner

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Dave Lesko

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Right on, Jeremy. The pricing game listing is just where you say it is, but it is
angled away from the audience. I had to really flex the muscles in my neck to see the
board. Other audience members didn't know what the hell I was even talking about.
Besides, I knew right where to look, having been to 3 previous tapings.

The contestants underbidding $1 are doing so out of plain stupidity. I'm sure they're
not thinking about what pricing games are played when. Having been a previous TPIR
contestant myself, when I was in CR, all I could think about was getting up onstage for
the pricing game ASAP, even though I knew BBB was up first (no chance at a car) and
Bonus Game was second (probably not for a car since a real car game, Card Game, was up
third). I'm glad I didn't have to play BBB. I had the last bid in the first IUFB and
would have it again for the second IUFB since the first bidder went up for BBB. Bonus
Game is an especially easy game to win, as are all Small Prize Games as a rule because
those mixers and hair dryers are used over and over again.

As far as the pricing game combinations are concerned, staging and timing most likely
determine when a pricing game will be played through the course of the show. Grocery
games are not a particularly exciting way to start off the shows--if you notice they are
most frequently played last. Three Strikes, Ten Chances, Hole in One, Temptation, and
Golden Road take up the most time, and it is unlikely that you will see any two of the
above played in the same show. Lucky Seven and just about any game played on the
turntable are the easiest to set up.

Just my 92 cents' worth (accounting for inflation and the length of my article),
Brian

But I must say that 99.9% of the contestants aren;t think

Guy Bozlinski

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jt...@aol.com (JTRH) wrote:
>Is the board showing the games to be played visible to the audience or
>those in Contestants' Row? I'd think if the players knew that the next

>game would be for a cheaper prize, and the one after that for a car,
>they'd ALL throw the upcoming one-bid.
If I were a contestant bidding last, and A- I new the contestant bidding
first would be the winner (meaning I bid last in next one bid0 and B the
next game was a biggie- 3 Strikes, Hole in 1 or 2, Plinko, Grand Game and
Punch Board to name a few, I would trrow the one-bid in a heart beat.
The Only question would be if I give a serious "overbid" or I bid really
really really high. Not to the point of $9000 or the person who bid a
five didget number on a display that cou;d only handle 4 didgets.

*Guy*


James L.

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There is one contestant that kinda bothered me. You remember Scott from the
first episode of Bullseye? I did not like him. Even though he won, he had
incredibly stupid strategy in the bonus round. He also tried to pull that
"psychic" thing by knowing where the lightning was. Oddly enough, he was
right, the bottom window. He kept on saying: "I know where it is! It's down
there!"
over and over again. I never liked contestants who do things like this. I
was hoping that the lightning would strike him, but he won. Of course, in
the bonus round also, he had a Bullseye in one window, and did not freeze
it! He sayed he wanted to go for the money, but heck, he had alot already!
Ho-hum, just a little pet peeve of mine.....Scott.


Alphabetix

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Mar 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/9/97
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>>There is one contestant that kinda bothered me. You remember Scott from
the
first episode of Bullseye? I did not like him. Even though he won, he had
incredibly stupid strategy in the bonus round. He also tried to pull that
"psychic" thing by knowing where the lightning was. Oddly enough, he was
right, the bottom window. He kept on saying: "I know where it is! It's
down
there!"<<

Hmmm......this wouldn't be Scott Wyant--B&E question writer/newsgroup
lurker would it?

>>over and over again. I never liked contestants who do things like this.
I
was hoping that the lightning would strike him, but he won. Of course, in
the bonus round also, he had a Bullseye in one window, and did not freeze
it! He sayed he wanted to go for the money, but heck, he had alot already!
Ho-hum, just a little pet peeve of mine.....Scott. <<

One must be careful what he/she says in a public medium.

Chris Lambert!

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Here's what I don't get: how was Mr. Wyant eligible to be a contestant on
The Real Bullseye after he had worked as a faux contestant on
The $1,000,000 Bullseye? Was he actually employed by B/E at the time?

-Chris
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