Don't Believe E! True Hollywood Story on Paul Lynde
Lisa Pease
tragic incident in his life that happened in 1965, three years before
"Hollywood Squares" made its debut. The tragedy lives on in the
microfilm edition of the Atlanta (Georgia) Journal (now the Journal &
Constitution) from Monday, July 19, 1965 page eleven. Reprinting the
article sheds light on why Lynde may have been depressed, and it
avoids the Andrew Cunanan approach to the history of American culture.
Here it is.
"Actor's 'Trick' Proves Fatal"
SAN FRANCISCO (Associated Press) -- Television actor Paul Lynde
thought his friend James Davidson was standing on a ledge outside his
eighth-floor hotel room window.
Davidson suddenly gasped, "Help me, I'm slipping."
Lynde lunged for his friend's hand, caught it but couldn't hold on.
Davidson fell to his death.
The two actors checked into the Sir Francis Drake Hotel Saturday
afternoon. They went out Saturday evening and didn't return until the
wee hours Sunday morning.
Lynde returned about 2:30 A.M. A hotel security officer escorted
Davidson, 24, to their room about 15 minutes later because Davidson
was boisterous in the hotel lobby.
Lynde said Davidson, who was fond of practical jokes, opened the
window and said, "Watch me do a trick."
Davidson climbed out and hung from the window sill by his finger tips.
Lynde said he thought Davidson was standing on a ledge beneath the
window.
On the street below an early morning crowd gaped up at the man hanging
from a window 80 feet up.
"My God! He's falling! He's falling!" a woman onlooker cried.
Deputy Coroner Mark Aleeson listed the death as accidental.
Davidson, a native of Grand Island, Nebraska, lived in Beverly Hills,
California. He had played bit parts on television and in the movies.
Another James Davidson, who has appeared in television programs
"Slattery's People," "Wagon Train," and "Combat," said in Los Angeles
he had heard of the victim but had never met him.
Lynde, 39, is a comedian who appeared with Dick Van Dyke in the
Broadway and film versions of "Bye Bye Birdie," and in the movie
"Under the Yum Yum Tree" as Imogene Coca's henpecked husband. He has
appeared on regular spots on the Red Buttons and Perry Como television
shows.
end of article
Dan Sadro
bucke...@hotmail.com (Lisa Pease) wrote:
>The E! True Hollywood Story on Paul Lynde was remiss. It left out a
>tragic incident in his life that happened in 1965, three years before
>"Hollywood Squares" made its debut.
(snipped article)
Really? Hollywood Squares debuted in 1968?
It's News To Me. (Wait, did that debut in 1953?)
--Dan
To reply, use this address: dan at sadro dot com
Mary L. Wallace
coverec on "Biography"
M.L. Wallace
Mary L. Wallace
I am puzzled by one comment in your post -- what did you mean when you
said the article avoided the Andrew Cunanan approach to American
culture? Why bring up *that* idiot?
Again, thanks for the article.
M.L. Wallace
Chris Lemon
news:26275-3CD...@storefull-2233.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> I am puzzled by one comment in your post -- what did you mean when you
> said the article avoided the Andrew Cunanan approach to American
> culture? Why bring up *that* idiot?
Most of the reasons have to do with "Miss Peace" being a complete an utter
crackpot. Stick around a while and you'll see what I mean. :)
EPaddon
>crackpot.
Just call him by his real name, David Henschel, and he'll oblige us with an
example of his total crackpottedness. :)
Eric Paddon
Lisa Pease
Ms. Wallace, you deserve an explanation. This is the latest of many
psychotic symptoms "Eric Paddon" has shown while he tries to discuss
game shows. My name is Lisa Pease. David Henschel doesn't exist.
He never suggests that the names "Streaming Wizard" and "General
Blitz" sound phony. He has sharpened his taste for targets just like
Andrew Cunanan did. That's why I dropped Cunanan's name in the first
chapter of this thread.
If I may call you Mary, I posted an article from a non-tabloid
newspaper in the Deep South, hoping it would bypass a nut like
"Paddon" who prefers a more invasive approach to people he's never
met. Did "Mysteries and Scandals" really include Paul Lynde's failed
attempt to save his mentally challenged friend? Oh, well. At least
Lynde died with the satisfaction that he had made people laugh and had
made a contribution to society. He, "Eric Paddon" and Andrew Cunanan
are proof that *not* being an alcoholic doesn't necessarily mean
anything.
>
> Eric Paddon
Dan Sadro
>> >Most of the reasons have to do with "Miss Peace" being a complete an utter
>> >crackpot.
>>
>> Just call him by his real name, David Henschel, and he'll oblige us with an
>> example of his total crackpottedness. :)
>
>Ms. Wallace, you deserve an explanation. This is the latest of many
>psychotic symptoms "Eric Paddon" has shown while he tries to discuss
>game shows. My name is Lisa Pease. David Henschel doesn't exist.
Then why does David Henschel post under the pseudonym "Lisa Pease"?
Anyway, the Lisa Pease that is being impersonated by David Henschel does
not use Google Groups to post to Usenet, nor does she use a Hotmail
address.
>He never suggests that the names "Streaming Wizard" and "General
>Blitz" sound phony. He has sharpened his taste for targets just like
>Andrew Cunanan did. That's why I dropped Cunanan's name in the first
>chapter of this thread.
>
>If I may call you Mary, I posted an article from a non-tabloid
>newspaper in the Deep South, hoping it would bypass a nut like
>"Paddon" who prefers a more invasive approach to people he's never
>met. Did "Mysteries and Scandals" really include Paul Lynde's failed
>attempt to save his mentally challenged friend? Oh, well. At least
>Lynde died with the satisfaction that he had made people laugh and had
>made a contribution to society. He, "Eric Paddon" and Andrew Cunanan
>are proof that *not* being an alcoholic doesn't necessarily mean
>anything.
Wow... so now you admit that Eric is not Andrew, as you claimed earlier.
Make up your mind, Henschel, tell us your conclusion, and then fuck off.
Lisa Pease
> In <cc1b1d23.02050...@posting.google.com>,
> bucke...@hotmail.com (Lisa Pease) wrote:
>
> >> >Most of the reasons have to do with "Miss Peace" being a complete an utter
> >> >crackpot.
> >>
> >> Just call him by his real name, David Henschel, and he'll oblige us with an
> >> example of his total crackpottedness. :)
> >
> >Ms. Wallace, you deserve an explanation. This is the latest of many
> >psychotic symptoms "Eric Paddon" has shown while he tries to discuss
> >game shows. My name is Lisa Pease. David Henschel doesn't exist.
>
> Then why does David Henschel post under the pseudonym "Lisa Pease"?
There is no David Henschel. There is no General Blitz. There is no
Streaming Wizard. That they don't exist isn't a bad thing. The
problem is that people who think they exist have no right to call
others crazy. It's the pot calling the kettle black.
>
> Anyway, the Lisa Pease that is being impersonated by David Henschel does
> not use Google Groups to post to Usenet, nor does she use a Hotmail
> address.
So you stalk people, too. Like many stalkers, you are forever
aggrieved that the world contains many more people than you wish it
did. You hear about a Lisa Pease who has posted to Usenet, and you
think everyone else with that name either is that person or gives a
damn about her. You're like someone whose significant other from a
foreign country has died, and whenever they meet someone on an Amtrak
train from that country they hope like hell that the stranger knew the
deceased or at least they're from the same town out of all the
millions of towns from which a stranger could hail.
>
> >He never suggests that the names "Streaming Wizard" and "General
> >Blitz" sound phony. He has sharpened his taste for targets just like
> >Andrew Cunanan did. That's why I dropped Cunanan's name in the first
> >chapter of this thread.
> >
> >If I may call you Mary, I posted an article from a non-tabloid
> >newspaper in the Deep South, hoping it would bypass a nut like
> >"Paddon" who prefers a more invasive approach to people he's never
> >met. Did "Mysteries and Scandals" really include Paul Lynde's failed
> >attempt to save his mentally challenged friend? Oh, well. At least
> >Lynde died with the satisfaction that he had made people laugh and had
> >made a contribution to society. He, "Eric Paddon" and Andrew Cunanan
> >are proof that *not* being an alcoholic doesn't necessarily mean
> >anything.
>
> Wow... so now you admit that Eric is not Andrew, as you claimed earlier.
> Make up your mind, Henschel, tell us your conclusion, and then fuck off.
I already provided the only conclusion for which I have evidence.
It's that the person posting under the name "Eric Paddon" shows
psychotic symptoms similar to those exhibited by the late Andrew
Cunanan. Cunanan may be dead, but thousands of other people pose a
danger to the public at large. This sounds like a broken record to
those who got the picture 200 posts ago, so please post something new
about game shows, Sadro. Otherwise go to hell.
Dan Sadro
>> >> >Most of the reasons have to do with "Miss Peace" being a complete an utter
>> >> >crackpot.
>> >>
>> >> Just call him by his real name, David Henschel, and he'll oblige us with an
>> >> example of his total crackpottedness. :)
>> >
>> >Ms. Wallace, you deserve an explanation. This is the latest of many
>> >psychotic symptoms "Eric Paddon" has shown while he tries to discuss
>> >game shows. My name is Lisa Pease. David Henschel doesn't exist.
>>
>> Then why does David Henschel post under the pseudonym "Lisa Pease"?
>
>There is no David Henschel.
[RRRRRRRRR] Strike One.
>There is no General Blitz.
[RRRRRRRRR] Strike Two.
>There is no Streaming Wizard.
[RRRRRRRRR] Strike Three. Control of the board goes to the other family.
>That they don't exist isn't a bad thing. The
>problem is that people who think they exist have no right to call
>others crazy. It's the pot calling the kettle black.
>>
>> Anyway, the Lisa Pease that is being impersonated by David Henschel does
>> not use Google Groups to post to Usenet, nor does she use a Hotmail
>> address.
>
>So you stalk people, too.
Actually, no. N2NumbNuts stalks people. I know that Lisa Pease does not
use Google Groups nor a Hotmail address because I contacted her, and she
gave an explanation.
In fact, you admit that I don't stalk people, in
<cc1b1d23.02041...@posting.google.com>
At least Mssrs. Ottinger, Sadro, Blitz and Robair refrain from
stalking people.
>> >He never suggests that the names "Streaming Wizard" and "General
>> >Blitz" sound phony. He has sharpened his taste for targets just like
>> >Andrew Cunanan did. That's why I dropped Cunanan's name in the first
>> >chapter of this thread.
>> >
>> >If I may call you Mary, I posted an article from a non-tabloid
>> >newspaper in the Deep South, hoping it would bypass a nut like
>> >"Paddon" who prefers a more invasive approach to people he's never
>> >met. Did "Mysteries and Scandals" really include Paul Lynde's failed
>> >attempt to save his mentally challenged friend? Oh, well. At least
>> >Lynde died with the satisfaction that he had made people laugh and had
>> >made a contribution to society. He, "Eric Paddon" and Andrew Cunanan
>> >are proof that *not* being an alcoholic doesn't necessarily mean
>> >anything.
>>
>> Wow... so now you admit that Eric is not Andrew, as you claimed earlier.
>> Make up your mind, Henschel, tell us your conclusion, and then fuck off.
>
>I already provided the only conclusion for which I have evidence.
>It's that the person posting under the name "Eric Paddon" shows
>psychotic symptoms similar to those exhibited by the late Andrew
>Cunanan. Cunanan may be dead, but thousands of other people pose a
>danger to the public at large. This sounds like a broken record to
>those who got the picture 200 posts ago, so please post something new
>about game shows, Sadro. Otherwise go to hell.
Actually, you directly called him Andrew Cunanan in message
<cc1b1d23.02041...@posting.google.com>
>>try not to let Lunatic Eric Paddon Andrew Cunanan distract you from them so
he can get his fix immediately.<<
Fuck off.
EPaddon
>psychotic symptoms
ROTFLMAO!!
Oh David, you're too much. :) Still mad at me for getting your bogus e-mail
account with my name attached to it shut down? :)
Eric Paddon
Lisa Pease
I'll have to use the persistence of a psychiatric nurse who doesn't
stop reminding people that no, Martians aren't invading, no, the sky
isn't falling and no, the CIA hasn't replaced your daughter with a
lookalike. For the umpteenth time, "Paddon," my name is Lisa Pease,
not David, and I'm not from Sweden. You are mentally ill. Is Mary,
an atgs regular who evidently responds more readily to Hollywood
Squares than black & white shows, following this?
Mary, now you see the relevance to Andrew Cunanan. I started this
thread by posting an understated Associated Press dispatch from 37
years ago about an obscure actor who wasn't famous enough to throw it
all away, but he did nonetheless, causing unhappiness to Paul Lynde,
obscure in 1965 and forgotten today except by atgs regulars. Maybe
Paddon is the only one who imagines an enemy in the guise of an
acquaintance he's never met in the first place, but even the other
atgs people evidently lack appurtenances of good mental health such as
garbage disposal, personal hygiene, a social life, a relationship.
It's very hard to believe that those who pose a threat to Paul Lynde's
surviving friends (if they were more than friends that's their
business) know how to take out the trash, take a shower, take a
compliment in the flesh instead of in an environment filled with
invisible creatures. A fat lot of good that 37-year-old Associated
Press dispatch did me. I'm glad I threw it out immediately after I
typed its contents here. Oh, well. At least people can access it
more easily than an episode of "Mysteries and Scandals" they missed.
The E! Channel has cut back that series to the hour when most people
are at work or visiting the bank or inserting a child in a car seat.
No more seven p.m. episodes. Wonder why? Maybe because ... A. J.
Benza and his boss want more current stuff where they don't get
scooped by the antiquated Usenet? You think Usenet is still the best
modern forum for What's My Line? Then log on to
http://mercury.beseen.com/guestbook/k/40242.guestbook.html
Dan Sadro
bucke...@hotmail.com (Lisa Pease) wrote:
>> ROTFLMAO!!
>>
>> Oh David, you're too much. :) Still mad at me for getting your bogus e-mail
>> account with my name attached to it shut down? :)
>>
>> Eric Paddon
>
>I'll have to use the persistence of a psychiatric nurse who doesn't
>stop reminding people that no, Martians aren't invading, no, the sky
>isn't falling and no, the CIA hasn't replaced your daughter with a
>lookalike. For the umpteenth time, "Paddon," my name is Lisa Pease,
>not David, and I'm not from Sweden. You are mentally ill. Is Mary,
>an atgs regular who evidently responds more readily to Hollywood
>Squares than black & white shows, following this?
Man... someone needs to get a nurse for Bucketbrain here. Eric didn't even
mention the Sweden bit, which, if you actually understood English, was a
joke due to the sex change that you would have to have, David, to be Lisa.
If you say that you aren't David, are you calling Matt Ottinger a liar?
Funny, because he's never lied to us before...
>Mary, now you see the relevance to Andrew Cunanan. I started this
>thread by posting an understated Associated Press dispatch from 37
>years ago about an obscure actor who wasn't famous enough to throw it
>all away, but he did nonetheless, causing unhappiness to Paul Lynde,
>obscure in 1965 and forgotten today except by atgs regulars. Maybe
>Paddon is the only one who imagines an enemy in the guise of an
>acquaintance he's never met in the first place, but even the other
>atgs people evidently lack appurtenances of good mental health such as
>garbage disposal, personal hygiene, a social life, a relationship.
1) Paul Lynde is remembered by a lot more people than ATGSers... anyone who
watched television during the 70s or "Charlotte's Web" would remember Paul
Lynde.
2) The other arguments are inconclusive and lack evidence.
>It's very hard to believe that those who pose a threat to Paul Lynde's
>surviving friends (if they were more than friends that's their
>business) know how to take out the trash, take a shower, take a
>compliment in the flesh instead of in an environment filled with
>invisible creatures. A fat lot of good that 37-year-old Associated
>Press dispatch did me. I'm glad I threw it out immediately after I
>typed its contents here. Oh, well. At least people can access it
>more easily than an episode of "Mysteries and Scandals" they missed.
>The E! Channel has cut back that series to the hour when most people
>are at work or visiting the bank or inserting a child in a car seat.
>No more seven p.m. episodes. Wonder why? Maybe because ... A. J.
>Benza and his boss want more current stuff where they don't get
>scooped by the antiquated Usenet? You think Usenet is still the best
>modern forum for What's My Line? Then log on to
>http://mercury.beseen.com/guestbook/k/40242.guestbook.html
David, you moron,
A guestbook is not a forum.
Mary L. Wallace
I usually am adept in avoiding in other groups. Since my post
mentioning the Andrew Cunanan touched of the flaming in this particular
thread, I offer my apologies to the group. I am becomng more familiar
with personalities here and will be more careful about just sticking to
facts within posts and ignore the unusual! :-)))) I also do not intend
to comment about personalities here, as I have not been around here long
enough to have earned that right -- I do intend to try to be positive
and stay away from the negative, unless I am offering a relevant point.
I will now step off of the soapbox and offer my view on the subject of
Paul Lynde.
Yes indeed, Paul Lynde is well remembered by a lot of people for more
than just "Hollywood Squares". Ibecame a big fan of his in the late
1960's through "Bewitched", other sitcom apearances, variety show guest
spots and, finally, HS. He was not obscure in 1965 -- he just hadn't
yet become the favorite guest performer that he was! :-))))
Yes I do comment mostly about HS because it was my favorite game show --
not just because of Lynde, but because of Charley Weaver, Wally Cox,
Rose Marie, George Gobel, Peter Marshall, etc.! I don't get GSN so I am
relying on tapes that a friend is sending me to relive those wonderful
memories! :-))))
As for the Black & White shows, i am very happy to say that ATVGS
inspired me to choose four wonderful epsiodes of "What's My Line?" at
the Museum of TV & Radio recently! I will write a seperate post on
this. So, thank you, ATVGS, for moving me to watch to wonderful hours
of B&W tv! (And "boo-hiss" to people who go there to watch "Seinfeld"
-- just turn on the tv and you're gonna find it! Jeeez!)
Cheers to all! :-))))
M.L. Wallace
Lisa Pease
> In <cc1b1d23.0205...@posting.google.com>,
> bucke...@hotmail.com (Lisa Pease) wrote:
>
> >> ROTFLMAO!!
> >>
> >> Oh David, you're too much. :) Still mad at me for getting your bogus e-mail
> >> account with my name attached to it shut down? :)
> >>
> >> Eric Paddon
> >
> >I'll have to use the persistence of a psychiatric nurse who doesn't
> >stop reminding people that no, Martians aren't invading, no, the sky
> >isn't falling and no, the CIA hasn't replaced your daughter with a
> >lookalike. For the umpteenth time, "Paddon," my name is Lisa Pease,
> >not David, and I'm not from Sweden. You are mentally ill. Is Mary,
> >an atgs regular who evidently responds more readily to Hollywood
> >Squares than black & white shows, following this?
>
> Man... someone needs to get a nurse for Bucketbrain here. Eric didn't even
> mention the Sweden bit, which, if you actually understood English, was a
> joke due to the sex change that you would have to have, David, to be Lisa.
It's not a funny joke. Stuck in a time warp when would-be
transsexuals had to visit Sweden? How did people who wanted to
discuss a two-year-old episode of I've Got A Secret find kindred
spirits in the 1950s? They survived without the opportunity.
>
> If you say that you aren't David, are you calling Matt Ottinger a liar?
No, he's just misinformed about invisible people. Concerning people
on a screen he's top-notch. At least Matt watches a few minutes of
current TV entertainment. He once said he has seen "Law And Order:
Special Victims Unit."
> Funny, because he's never lied to us before...
I didn't say he lied.
>
> >Mary, now you see the relevance to Andrew Cunanan. I started this
> >thread by posting an understated Associated Press dispatch from 37
> >years ago about an obscure actor who wasn't famous enough to throw it
> >all away, but he did nonetheless, causing unhappiness to Paul Lynde,
> >obscure in 1965 and forgotten today except by atgs regulars. Maybe
> >Paddon is the only one who imagines an enemy in the guise of an
> >acquaintance he's never met in the first place, but even the other
> >atgs people evidently lack appurtenances of good mental health such as
> >garbage disposal, personal hygiene, a social life, a relationship.
>
> 1) Paul Lynde is remembered by a lot more people than ATGSers... anyone who
> watched television during the 70s or "Charlotte's Web" would remember Paul
> Lynde.
But they wouldn't care about his private life. The people who have
probed into the private life of a skeleton as famous as Elvis Presley
paid the price of becoming losers. The most famous example is Albert
Goldman, but there have been others.
>
> 2) The other arguments are inconclusive and lack evidence.
And yours? How tall am I? Am I fair-skinned, dark complected,
etc.?
>
> >It's very hard to believe that those who pose a threat to Paul Lynde's
> >surviving friends (if they were more than friends that's their
> >business) know how to take out the trash, take a shower, take a
> >compliment in the flesh instead of in an environment filled with
> >invisible creatures. A fat lot of good that 37-year-old Associated
> >Press dispatch did me. I'm glad I threw it out immediately after I
> >typed its contents here. Oh, well. At least people can access it
> >more easily than an episode of "Mysteries and Scandals" they missed.
> >The E! Channel has cut back that series to the hour when most people
> >are at work or visiting the bank or inserting a child in a car seat.
> >No more seven p.m. episodes. Wonder why? Maybe because ... A. J.
> >Benza and his boss want more current stuff where they don't get
> >scooped by the antiquated Usenet? You think Usenet is still the best
> >modern forum for What's My Line? Then log on to
> >http://mercury.beseen.com/guestbook/k/40242.guestbook.html
>
> David, you moron,
Non sequitur again. That's not my name.
>
> A guestbook is not a forum.
Inconclusive argument. People have communicated with each other back
and forth in that guestbook about What's My Line. Usenet has lost a
large part of its audience in the last five years. If guestbooks and
forums like www.imusic.com (which includes Johnnie Ray) have had
nothing to do with the shrinking of Usenet, could it be that many
people get sick of the invisible, obsessive people? People obsessed
with useless information can nurture a denial greater than that of the
alcoholic or drug addict.
>
> Fuck off.
You're a loser. I tried to enlighten fans of Paul Lynde about a
newsworthy event that happened before he became famous, an event
strange enough that the Associated Press explained it as well as the
National Enquirer could have. At least Mary, whom you've frightened
away from this discussion, read it. If you care to comment on Paul
Lynde without stalking his friends who are alive, please do.
Otherwise, please abort this thread immediately. Thank you. If you
continue your off-topic rant you're wasting your time.
Matt Ottinger
"David Henschel" <bucke...@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
> > If you say that you aren't David, are you calling Matt Ottinger a liar?
>
> No, he's just misinformed about invisible people. Concerning people
> on a screen he's top-notch. At least Matt watches a few minutes of
> current TV entertainment. He once said he has seen "Law And Order:
> Special Victims Unit."
Only because Mariska Hargitay is hot.
But "invisible people"? Man, I would not want to be David Henschel's
therapist for all the money in the world.
--Matt
otti...@acd.net
Dan Sadro
bucke...@hotmail.com (Lisa Pease) wrote:
>> Man... someone needs to get a nurse for Bucketbrain here. Eric didn't even
>> mention the Sweden bit, which, if you actually understood English, was a
>> joke due to the sex change that you would have to have, David, to be Lisa.
>
>It's not a funny joke. Stuck in a time warp when would-be
>transsexuals had to visit Sweden? How did people who wanted to
>discuss a two-year-old episode of I've Got A Secret find kindred
>spirits in the 1950s? They survived without the opportunity.
The joke's not funny to you because you are the butt of the joke. I don't
have any idea about the kindred spirits bullshit... that's completely off
of the topic of what you were replying to.
>> If you say that you aren't David, are you calling Matt Ottinger a liar?
>
>No, he's just misinformed about invisible people. Concerning people
>on a screen he's top-notch. <snip>
>
>> Funny, because he's never lied to us before...
>
>I didn't say he lied.
A: Either Matt Ottinger told the truth, or he didn't tell the truth.
B: When anyone is not telling the truth, they are lying.
C: A person must be telling the truth or lying.
D: According to you, he did not lie.
Since Matt was not lying, he must have been telling the truth, THEREFORE
you are David Henschel impersonating Lisa Pease.
Case closed.
>At least Matt watches a few minutes of
>current TV entertainment. He once said he has seen "Law And Order:
>Special Victims Unit."
Whoop-dee-doo, so have I. IT'S IRRELEVANT.
>You're a loser. I tried to enlighten fans of Paul Lynde about a
>newsworthy event that happened before he became famous, an event
>strange enough that the Associated Press explained it as well as the
>National Enquirer could have. At least Mary, whom you've frightened
>away from this discussion, read it. If you care to comment on Paul
>Lynde without stalking his friends who are alive, please do.
>Otherwise, please abort this thread immediately. Thank you. If you
>continue your off-topic rant you're wasting your time.
Please present your proof that I'm stalking friends of the late Paul
Lynde... oh wait, there is none, because I don't stalk people, regardless
of who they are.
If you were really trying to enlighten fans of Paul Lynde, you wouldn't
have mentioned anything at all about Andrew Cunanan, of which was
completely off the main topic.
Lisa Pease
> In <cc1b1d23.02050...@posting.google.com>,
> bucke...@hotmail.com (Lisa Pease) wrote:
>
> >> Man... someone needs to get a nurse for Bucketbrain here. Eric didn't even
> >> mention the Sweden bit, which, if you actually understood English, was a
> >> joke due to the sex change that you would have to have, David, to be Lisa.
> >
> >It's not a funny joke. Stuck in a time warp when would-be
> >transsexuals had to visit Sweden? How did people who wanted to
> >discuss a two-year-old episode of I've Got A Secret find kindred
> >spirits in the 1950s? They survived without the opportunity.
>
> The joke's not funny to you because you are the butt of the joke. I don't
> have any idea about the kindred spirits bullshit... that's completely off
> of the topic of what you were replying to.
It's more on topic than the insinuation that would-be American
transsexuals in the 1950s had to visit Sweden. You won't find any
reference to that on a Goodson Todman game show so it's off topic.
It is on topic that you seem to have an inordinate need to discuss old
game shows seven days a week, yet nobody could do that while said
shows were in production. To this day 99 percent of Americans and
Canadians would find such a seven-day-a-week roundtable weird, and
it's certainly weird by 1950s standards. Someone who wanted to
indulge in such a roundtable as late as 1979, when Hollywood Squares
started fading, had an almost zero chance of finding someone in the
flesh who wanted to join in. That's on topic. The history of
sex-change operations isn't.
>
> >> If you say that you aren't David, are you calling Matt Ottinger a liar?
> >
> >No, he's just misinformed about invisible people. Concerning people
> >on a screen he's top-notch. <snip>
> >
> >> Funny, because he's never lied to us before...
> >
> >I didn't say he lied.
>
> A: Either Matt Ottinger told the truth, or he didn't tell the truth.
He knows everything? If an elementary school teacher told her class
on September 10, 2001 that airport security catches all the bad guys,
was she lying? Remember, she's either lying or truth telling
according to your theory. Black or white.
> B: When anyone is not telling the truth, they are lying.
See above.
> C: A person must be telling the truth or lying.
Again.
> D: According to you, he did not lie.
I said he is incorrect. Like the elementary school teacher.
>
> Since Matt was not lying, he must have been telling the truth, THEREFORE
> you are David Henschel impersonating Lisa Pease.
And the Twin Towers still stand? That schoolteacher is honest.
>
> Case closed.
Then don't ask people to donate money to New York City.
>
>
>
>
>
> >At least Matt watches a few minutes of
> >current TV entertainment. He once said he has seen "Law And Order:
> >Special Victims Unit."
>
> Whoop-dee-doo, so have I. IT'S IRRELEVANT.
Matt has responded to "Law and Order" references twice, the first time
in response to someone saying there's nothing wrong with advertising
on the Internet that "Law and Order" star Mariska Hargitay's mother
was murdered in connection with JFK. It is beyond doubt that her
mother appeared three times as the mystery guest on What's My Line,
the last time less than a year before her death. If Matt gave anyone
the impression that Hargitay is on topic, then he's either lying or
telling the truth according to your theory. You're not even
explaining why she could be on topic, a justification that would make
Matt truthful. You make no sense.
>
> >You're a loser. I tried to enlighten fans of Paul Lynde about a
> >newsworthy event that happened before he became famous, an event
> >strange enough that the Associated Press explained it as well as the
> >National Enquirer could have. At least Mary, whom you've frightened
> >away from this discussion, read it. If you care to comment on Paul
> >Lynde without stalking his friends who are alive, please do.
> >Otherwise, please abort this thread immediately. Thank you. If you
> >continue your off-topic rant you're wasting your time.
>
> Please present your proof that I'm stalking friends of the late Paul
> Lynde... oh wait, there is none, because I don't stalk people, regardless
> of who they are.
I never said *you* were stalking Lynde's friends. You're stalking at
least one invisible Internet poster and you criticized that person for
posting an Associated Press article that reported a tragedy in Paul
Lynde's life without invading his privacy.
>
> If you were really trying to enlighten fans of Paul Lynde, you wouldn't
> have mentioned anything at all about Andrew Cunanan, of which was
> completely off the main topic.
I dropped Cunanan's name a long time ago when Eric Paddon started
showing signs of mental illness and invading the privacy of people
whose status as public figures is questionable.
Lisa Pease
> "David Henschel" <bucke...@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
>
> > > If you say that you aren't David, are you calling Matt Ottinger a liar?
> >
> > No, he's just misinformed about invisible people. Concerning people
> > on a screen he's top-notch. At least Matt watches a few minutes of
> > current TV entertainment. He once said he has seen "Law And Order:
> > Special Victims Unit."
>
> Only because Mariska Hargitay is hot.
>
> But "invisible people"?
That's right, invisible. If they're visible, then what is Usenet's
answer to chyron?
Man, I would not want to be David Henschel's
> therapist for all the money in the world.
If you were a qualified psychotherapist you would have spent more than
a decade on a schedule that precludes a seven-day-a-week roundtable on
old game shows. It's not acceptable to mention such an obsession even
once in a clinical milieu. Unless you scan a photograph of this man
with whom you're obsessed and show it to everyone, then your dropping
his name is bizarre. Your ignorance of height, weight, eye color
suggests you could be doing anti-social things with his name.
>
> --Matt
> otti...@acd.net
Dan Sadro
bucke...@hotmail.com (Lisa Pease) wrote:
[giant snip]
>> Case closed.
>
>Then don't ask people to donate money to New York City.
I never did. Anyway, this has gone too far off topic. You're not going to
admit that you are David Henschel, nor are you going to give proof that you
are Lisa Pease.
Anyway, please purchase a Klauss-Gibson Sarcasm Detector version 3.0.
>> >At least Matt watches a few minutes of
>> >current TV entertainment. He once said he has seen "Law And Order:
>> >Special Victims Unit."
>>
>> Whoop-dee-doo, so have I. IT'S IRRELEVANT.
>
>Matt has responded to "Law and Order" references twice, the first time
>in response to someone saying there's nothing wrong with advertising
>on the Internet that "Law and Order" star Mariska Hargitay's mother
>was murdered in connection with JFK. It is beyond doubt that her
>mother appeared three times as the mystery guest on What's My Line,
>the last time less than a year before her death. If Matt gave anyone
>the impression that Hargitay is on topic, then he's either lying or
>telling the truth according to your theory. You're not even
>explaining why she could be on topic, a justification that would make
>Matt truthful.
Your argument was that Matt watches a few minutes of current TV
entertainment, namely "Law and Order: SVU". That is what was irrelevant to
the discussion.
>You make no sense.
PKB. Anyway, it looks like Matt Ottinger has a stalker in Bucketbrain.
>> Please present your proof that I'm stalking friends of the late Paul
>> Lynde... oh wait, there is none, because I don't stalk people, regardless
>> of who they are.
>
>I never said *you* were stalking Lynde's friends. You're stalking at
>least one invisible Internet poster and you criticized that person for
>posting an Associated Press article that reported a tragedy in Paul
>Lynde's life without invading his privacy.
I am not stalking. I am replying to posts of which have incorrect
information.
Mike Klauss
> I never did. Anyway, this has gone too far off topic. You're not going
to
> admit that you are David Henschel, nor are you going to give proof that
you
> are Lisa Pease.
>
> Anyway, please purchase a Klauss-Gibson Sarcasm Detector version 3.0.
Dan, haven't you read the fine print at the bottom of the box? It reads
"NOT TO BE USED BY OBSESSIVE USENET CONSPIRACY THEORISTS". :-P
From now on, let's treat Lisa, David or whatever name he, she or it wants to
use today as a troll or a moron--killfile it or ignore it. Whatever it is
has posted little, if any relevant on-topic information.
Just my 2 cents...
--
Mike Klauss
http://www.tv-gameshows.com
http://www.mikeklauss.com
Dan Sadro
"Mike Klauss" <mi...@tv-gameshows.com> wrote:
>> I never did. Anyway, this has gone too far off topic. You're not going
>to
>> admit that you are David Henschel, nor are you going to give proof that
>you
>> are Lisa Pease.
>>
>> Anyway, please purchase a Klauss-Gibson Sarcasm Detector version 3.0.
>
>Dan, haven't you read the fine print at the bottom of the box? It reads
>"NOT TO BE USED BY OBSESSIVE USENET CONSPIRACY THEORISTS". :-P
No... I haven't upgraded yet. :-D
>From now on, let's treat Lisa, David or whatever name he, she or it wants to
>use today as a troll or a moron--killfile it or ignore it. Whatever it is
>has posted little, if any relevant on-topic information.
>
>Just my 2 cents...
You're right... nothing of substance has come out of his/her/its computer,
and each response was written to evoke an angry response.
[smack]
Why didn't I realise this?
--Dan "back to the TTD90 room again" Sadro
Matt Ottinger
"David Henschel" <bucke...@hotmail.com> wrote ...
> Dan Sadro <sp...@sadro.com> wrote ...
> >
> > A: Either Matt Ottinger told the truth, or he didn't tell the truth.
>
> He knows everything?
Pretty much, yeah.
--Matt
otti...@acd.net
Lisa Pease
> In <E190FC5EC702ADE8.CDBAA807...@lp.airnews.net>,
> "Mike Klauss" <mi...@tv-gameshows.com> wrote:
>
> >> I never did. Anyway, this has gone too far off topic. You're not going
> to
> >> admit that you are David Henschel, nor are you going to give proof that
> you
> >> are Lisa Pease.
Nobody can prove who they really are in Usenet. Everyone indulges in
Usenet with that clear understanding, which means probing someone's
identity in a group devoted to game shows is *really* off topic. You
are right about how this pointless discussion should end immediately,
but you are wrong about my being off topic. My earlier comments
about people's inability to discuss Goodson Todman shows, while they
were in production, at any time around the clock is very on topic.
Some people spend too much time in atgs. If you delve into the topic
of historical sex-change operations, as Eric Paddon and Dan Sadro did,
then you're very off topic. You should move to alt.transgender.com.
Lisa Pease
> "Dan Sadro" <sp...@sadro.com> wrote in message
> news:ekpmdu0ojjn3491bl...@4ax.com...
> > I never did. Anyway, this has gone too far off topic. You're not going
> to
> > admit that you are David Henschel, nor are you going to give proof that
> you
> > are Lisa Pease.
> >
> > Anyway, please purchase a Klauss-Gibson Sarcasm Detector version 3.0.
>
> Dan, haven't you read the fine print at the bottom of the box? It reads
> "NOT TO BE USED BY OBSESSIVE USENET CONSPIRACY THEORISTS". :-P
>
> From now on, let's treat Lisa, David or whatever name he, she or it wants to
> use today as a troll or a moron--killfile it or ignore it. Whatever it is
> has posted little, if any relevant on-topic information.
How relevant are your references to the history of sex-change
operations? Christine Jorgensen never appeared on a Goodson Todman
game show. If you doubt that, please post details about the episode.
Otherwise please discuss that topic in alt.transgender.com. If such
a group doesn't exist, you can always initiate it. If Mark Goodson
could initiate what he initiated, then it's possible for Dan Sadro and
Eric Paddon to initiate alt.transgender.com. Then they'll be on
topic.
>
> Just my 2 cents...
Lisa Pease
> "David Henschel" <bucke...@hotmail.com> wrote ...
> > Dan Sadro <sp...@sadro.com> wrote ...
> > >
> > > A: Either Matt Ottinger told the truth, or he didn't tell the truth.
> >
> > He knows everything?
>
> Pretty much, yeah.
Then please tell the FBI which terrorists, if any, are planning
another attack. If they hit Burbank, California people won't see new
game show episodes for a long time.
>
> --Matt
> otti...@acd.net
Lisa Pease
> In <cc1b1d23.0205...@posting.google.com>,
> bucke...@hotmail.com (Lisa Pease) wrote:
>
> [giant snip]
> >> Case closed.
> >
> >Then don't ask people to donate money to New York City.
>
> I never did. Anyway, this has gone too far off topic. You're not going to
> admit that you are David Henschel, nor are you going to give proof that you
> are Lisa Pease.
You're not proving what your real name is. Seems like you didn't
learn the basics of Usenet when you started reaching out to people you
probably will never meet.
>
> Anyway, please purchase a Klauss-Gibson Sarcasm Detector version 3.0.
>
> >> >At least Matt watches a few minutes of
> >> >current TV entertainment. He once said he has seen "Law And Order:
> >> >Special Victims Unit."
> >>
> >> Whoop-dee-doo, so have I. IT'S IRRELEVANT.
> >
> >Matt has responded to "Law and Order" references twice, the first time
> >in response to someone saying there's nothing wrong with advertising
> >on the Internet that "Law and Order" star Mariska Hargitay's mother
> >was murdered in connection with JFK. It is beyond doubt that her
> >mother appeared three times as the mystery guest on What's My Line,
> >the last time less than a year before her death. If Matt gave anyone
> >the impression that Hargitay is on topic, then he's either lying or
> >telling the truth according to your theory. You're not even
> >explaining why she could be on topic, a justification that would make
> >Matt truthful.
>
> Your argument was that Matt watches a few minutes of current TV
> entertainment, namely "Law and Order: SVU". That is what was irrelevant to
> the discussion.
No, my argument, available in the Google archives, was that you don't
take into account a *really* nutsy Usenet regular named John Judge who
has circulated the theory that the mother of Law and Order's Mariska
Hargitay died in connection with a JFK cover-up. Game Show Network
has rerun at least five Goodson Todman episodes that showcase
Mariska's mother as an actress who may have had intellectual potential
but chose to flaunt her body, instead. Mariska has picked up where
her mother left off with mind and body.
>
> >You make no sense.
>
> PKB. Anyway, it looks like Matt Ottinger has a stalker in Bucketbrain.
Meaning his alleged investigation of me amounts to what?
>
> >> Please present your proof that I'm stalking friends of the late Paul
> >> Lynde... oh wait, there is none, because I don't stalk people, regardless
> >> of who they are.
> >
> >I never said *you* were stalking Lynde's friends. You're stalking at
> >least one invisible Internet poster and you criticized that person for
> >posting an Associated Press article that reported a tragedy in Paul
> >Lynde's life without invading his privacy.
>
> I am not stalking. I am replying to posts of which have incorrect
> information.
I have coughed up the money for that Klauss-Gibson device. Its price
is compatible with my monthly Usenet bill. Of course, a Usenet
regular who forgoes the device is like someone who pays a thousand
dollars for roundtrip airfare to Hawaii and then forgoes a rental car.
As for my reprint of an old dispatch about Paul Lynde that initiated
your many "on topic" posts, maybe I was incorrect as you suggest. The
Associated Press could have manufactured the story about his failed
attempt to save his errant friend. Even if it was true, nobody can
prove that the incident haunted Lynde during his years on Hollywood
Squares, either enhancing or undermining his performances. E!
Entertainment Television can't prove it.
Mike Klauss
please stop drinking and posting to newsgroups.
> > From now on, let's treat Lisa, David or whatever name he, she or it
wants to
> > use today as a troll or a moron--killfile it or ignore it. Whatever it
is
> > has posted little, if any relevant on-topic information.
>
> How relevant are your references to the history of sex-change
> operations?
What references to sex-change operations? Are you always a clueless
dipshit? At least I know my name and my gender.
> Christine Jorgensen never appeared on a Goodson Todman
> game show.
Not even "He Said, She Said"? <ducking>
> If you doubt that, please post details about the episode.
> Otherwise please discuss that topic in alt.transgender.com. If such
> a group doesn't exist, you can always initiate it.
Let me put that in my day planner. I'll be sure to create it on the 32nd of
Never.
> If Mark Goodson could initiate what he initiated, then it's possible for
Dan Sadro and
> Eric Paddon to initiate alt.transgender.com. Then they'll be on
> topic.
Seek help. Seriously. For society's sake, let's hope whatever you are is
incapable of reproducing and permanently infecting the gene pool.
John Sergent
Dan Sadro <sp...@sadro.com> wrote:
> B: When anyone is not telling the truth, they are lying.
> C: A person must be telling the truth or lying.
this is not true.
--
Have fun!
Lisa Pease
I thank you. So do the not-so-powerful newspaper and electronic
reporters in South Carolina who gave millions of people the impression
that a large scary black man kidnapped and murdered the children of
Susan Smith, now incarcerated for the rest of her life.
Lisa Pease
> Lisa Pease/David Henschel/Whatever you'd like to be known as this week,
> please stop drinking and posting to newsgroups.
As I said before in this thread, the fact that someone doesn't drink
doesn't necessarily mean anything. That notion is too painful for
many people to articulate. When it comes out someone might say that
so-and-so's marriage broke up because of a hobby that became
obsessive. The pain can be too great for someone to specify "Usenet."
A rare example of an obsession destroying a marriage in American pop
culture is Lorraine Hansberry's 1964 play "The Sign In Sidney
Brustein's Window." It starred two What's My Line mystery guests so
it's more on topic than your rant.
> > > From now on, let's treat Lisa, David or whatever name he, she or it
> wants to
> > > use today as a troll or a moron--killfile it or ignore it. Whatever it
> is
> > > has posted little, if any relevant on-topic information.
> >
> > How relevant are your references to the history of sex-change
> > operations?
>
> What references to sex-change operations?
Dan Sadro's. You don't read carefully.
Are you always a clueless
> dipshit? At least I know my name and my gender.
And others in atgs know them for certain? When they meet you once a
year do you all pick a centrally located town accessible by Amtrak?
>
> > Christine Jorgensen never appeared on a Goodson Todman
> > game show.
>
> Not even "He Said, She Said"? <ducking>
If Christine did that show we probably won't see it. Ninety percent
of episodes in the series are gone.
>
> > If you doubt that, please post details about the episode.
> > Otherwise please discuss that topic in alt.transgender.com. If such
> > a group doesn't exist, you can always initiate it.
>
> Let me put that in my day planner. I'll be sure to create it on the 32nd of
> Never.
I meant Dan Sadro and Eric Paddon should do it. They rambled
off-topic about the history of sex-change surgery.
>
> > If Mark Goodson could initiate what he initiated, then it's possible for
> Dan Sadro and
> > Eric Paddon to initiate alt.transgender.com. Then they'll be on
> > topic.
>
> Seek help. Seriously. For society's sake, let's hope whatever you are is
> incapable of reproducing and permanently infecting the gene pool.
Still stuck in Nerdville USA pointing to those who party as the cause
of so many problems? The 1970 theatrical movie "The Strawberry
Statement" has an unintentionally funny scene in which the nerdy
campus protestor Simon, played by Bruce Davison (visible today in TV
movies), gets beaten up by cops. Baby boomers deserved everything
they got. They were dumb enough to see the Erector Set as one of many
signs that they could solve the world's problems. They should have
paid more attention to "The Sign In Sidney Brustein's Window."
Dan Sadro
bucke...@hotmail.com (Lisa Pease) wrote:
(snip)
>> What references to sex-change operations?
>
>Dan Sadro's. You don't read carefully.
Wrong. I was not the first person to make references to sex-change
operations -- I was only repeating them because Bucketbrain is sooooo dense
(how dense is he?), he didn't understand the references in the first place.
Chris Lemon
> I was only repeating them because Bucketbrain is sooooo dense
> (how dense is he?), he didn't understand the references in the first
place.
I think it's amazing that you idiots don't have the slightest idea how badly
you're all being trolled.
Chuck Gibson
>you're all being trolled.
>
This from someone who has been encouraging trolls of late. PKB.
Chuck
http://sport6449.tripod.com/generalblitzinfantry
"You can't spell SB without BS!"--Mike Klauss
Chris Lemon
news:20020513160840...@mb-mu.aol.com...
> This from someone who has been encouraging trolls of late. PKB.
Encouraging? Not hardly. He doesn't need encouragement. He ain't going
anywhere.
Entertaining myself (and hopefully the group) at his expense? More likely.
Now, please to be explaining to me how "realizing you're being trolled" and
"encouraging trolls" (however facetious) are the same thing
(and you know how to make that killfile work if you want it to, don't you?
Sure you do. ;))